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00:02:41,385\n稍微的部分也有意願要來台灣來做相關的投資啦那經濟部政院有沒有跟他們怎麼樣的合作?是不是有簽署意向書或者是備忘錄的這個可能性?目前因為他已經按照我們的這個大Aplus在申請中所以就按照大Aplus相關的程序來進行就可以了所以沒有什麼樣的問題啦就按照程序來進行我們希望能夠加快幫我補充的那個\n\n7\n00:02:43,747 --> 00:03:07,077\n報告委員目前就是正在審查中並沒有一個形式上簽一個LI的一個動作所以沒有這樣的問題所以這樣的合作上是沒有問題的就是說因為在審查這個簽LI就是在審查的這個單位來講簽LI似乎上好像在審查過程中比較不適合所以我們按程序來審查但是合作上面引進來台灣來投資是沒有問題的嗎\n\n8\n00:03:08,934 --> 00:03:35,509\n我們會盡量能夠去跟他談一個比較好的一個條件。OKOK好好謝謝。那部長我覺得這個未來的AI這一塊也相當重要啦所以我想這個大家都努力的在爭取但是我還是希望提醒就是說其實七成的新創事業都幾乎跟AI在做很多的應用合作但是我還是希望這些的能量上面不要有南北失衡上的問題啦齁。\n\n9\n00:03:37,091 --> 00:03:51,269\n我們看這些都很重要,包括新創的環境,其實世界競爭力台灣也進到第六,在全球的新創生態系的排名也到了24。都很好成績,包括賴總統也一直在講創新創業雨林生態系的問題。\n\n10\n00:03:54,873 --> 00:04:17,961\n但是我們來看一下整個從中小企業跟新創事業的分佈來看,台北市大概3410加數,新北市1017,高雄565,台南313。其實還是很明顯的北跟南之間也存在的相當落差。高雄跟台南加起來還不到新北,更不要講遠遠落後台北市。\n\n11\n00:04:18,621 --> 00:04:34,549\n那我是覺得這一塊還是要請部長跟市長、署長都要大力來支持讓南部的這一塊的中小企業或者新創事業的一些的這個發展能夠更加的順暢。甚至剛剛也提到了像輝達的部分也在\n\n12\n00:04:35,709 --> 00:04:58,707\nadequate在臺北來投資了嗎?我們都希望未來有更多的可能性是往中南部去走,讓南部這一塊,部長怎麼來協助推動?是是,我們也很贊成齁,因為你這樣的南北都有這樣的新創的話,那對吸引這個相關的人才也是有幫助。那這個我們經濟部的策略就是一定會讓南北更平衡。\n\n13\n00:04:59,587 --> 00:05:22,032\n我希望部長或所有的署長、司長等等所有都還是要不斷地把這個放在心裡面去做處理啦因為你不做處理最後一定是多數落在北部啦北部其實是具有相當的優勢的那你一定要很有策略很有目的地去往南部、中南部去推動它才有機會讓南北之間這一塊有機會均衡發展的一個機會是的,我們同意這一定要請務必那個\n\n14\n00:05:23,272 --> 00:05:41,055\n那我們來看一下,其實南部也謝謝部長也都有在支持一些相關的一些經費,產發署的規模。但是我們看到了,其實大家都很努力,其實在第三座的信訟基地現在有可能會在北高雄的僑科來設置,那這是國科會這邊來主導的。\n\n15\n00:05:42,276 --> 00:05:57,502\n那我要講的是未來有可能會有三座,林口新創園、雅灣新創園跟喬科的這個園區。那三個裡面園區看起來林口跟喬科都可能會達到一萬多坪、一萬五千坪。但是這個雅灣的新創園其實條件相當不錯齁。\n\n16\n00:05:58,883 --> 00:06:04,407\nbicy未來其實有機會在高原二期來設置,我也希望部長、署長、市長這邊來大力支持,讓雅灣新創園的能量能夠更強大好不好?是,我們都有在做這樣相關的吸引性創,可以更集中,然後更集中它的能量就會更好,那這個我們都積極在做。\n\n17\n00:06:19,696 --> 00:06:34,681\n現在高原二期在進行中嘛那我也希望未來這個空間的部分是不是能夠給予更充足的空間啊你看林口的他已經其實他的環境逐漸成熟所以他一萬五千多坪的空間獨立的辦公室等等他250間\n\n18\n00:06:36,201 --> 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