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\"score\": 0.812}, {\"word\": \"長\"}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:02,011 --> 00:00:15,987\n那我想說藉由這個機會那今天我也跟您要特別提一個今天我稍早的時候王宏威委員王維立委他也跟我一起有開一個記者會也是有關於重大的交通的公安議題\n\n2\n00:00:17,508 --> 00:00:31,158\n公安危機,之前高鐵有發生差點有6個人在裡面3次可能會受到電擊或成為烤肉串的事件嗎?\n\n3\n00:00:33,836 --> 00:00:53,913\n委員不好意思我也是今天早上才看到這一則新聞的事那對於這個高鐵公安事件他害人真相因為那一天的話是上午那其實他那時候停駛了5分鐘那高鐵表示是因為電力異常暫時停車那事實上他在高鐵的烏日基地他那時候在進行這開關的89FC41的規定作業在進行這個維護維修那裡面有6位\n\n4\n00:01:02,060 --> 00:01:10,002\n一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案4案。\n\n5\n00:01:31,187 --> 00:01:45,857\n那想就教一下次長,針對像現在高鐵他現在是不受立院來監督,但是交通部對於這起事件要持什麼樣的態度跟來去怎麼樣的作為來去改善這個事件?\n\n6\n00:01:46,926 --> 00:02:14,883\n我想跟委員做一個報告就是有關這個事件的一個發生其實是臺高公司大概在4月19號也接收到相關的這事件是在4月9號發生的那在4月19號有相關的檢舉案所以臺高公司就進行了相關的徹查那徹查之後呢對於相關的人員是予延處而且重申不得再犯這是公司本身就公司治理安全上他所做的一個處理\n\n7\n00:02:16,183 --> 00:02:39,383\n站在交通部鐵道局有關鐵道監理的立場,我們今天,其實不是在今天,其實在4月26號就已經發函請台高公司就這個事件說明。那我的了解,我們最近大概今天也會責令我們的鐵道局就這個來啟動相關的一個公安的一個檢查。\n\n8\n00:02:40,403 --> 00:03:00,288\n然後檢查完以後來依照檢查的結果來做相關的一個處理,謝謝。那我跟市長補充說明,那在4月9號那一天之後,其實高鐵公司他們在內部來講,他們是採取息事寧人的態度,所以說導致那個6位的人員,包括內部的一個監局員,\n\n9\n00:03:01,168 --> 00:03:21,141\n他們變成糾結在到底是要持續做這份工作嗎?還是因為那時候高鐵是叫他們說都對外不要再提這件事情?那他們是在生命權跟他們的一個工作權中他們要去做選擇。如果說今天來講高鐵它本身它是螺絲鬆動嗎?那以及說在這樣子那麼重大的一個\n\n10\n00:03:21,841 --> 00:03:21,941\n主席\n\n11\n00:03:39,842 --> 00:03:56,944\n有跟委員報告這相關的事情發生之後我們鐵道局當然也就剛才特別提到的在4月16號請臺高公司來做進一步的說明那說明之後他們會去做相關的一個實地的一個檢查或是書面的調查\n\n12\n00:03:58,566 --> 00:04:21,287\n市長,我跟你講,不只這一件,包括在酒測的部分,高鐵的列車長在26號的時候有一個報導,他是規避酒測,那到時候高鐵的講法是,他有請負責監督的調派員,還來去給他洗酒測來去了解,但是事實上,這個部分也是採取歧視寧人的態度,因為到最後,\n\n13\n00:04:22,328 --> 00:04:46,331\n內部的員工也再次的跟網紅委員辦公室這邊我們今天開記者會也爆料因為到最後是這個監測員去幫這個那個列車長去進行酒測那所以說這等於就像是警察他在執勤的時候民眾喝酒了他就警察在幫他酒測一樣這個等於是這樣子的一個狀況那我想就教一下次長\n\n14\n00:04:47,572 --> 00:05:09,350\n高鐵它第一線其實在我們許多的服務商們看起來都做得很好可是在內部來講這樣的一個重大的公安危機是存在那麼高的風險甚至連列車長他如果是酒駕現在酒駕是零容忍的一個情況之下那就連去幫他調查幫他測的人他自己還可以幫他代為酒測那像這樣子的問題交通部都無法可管嗎?\n\n15\n00:05:11,346 --> 00:05:32,347\n我想這樣的一個事件來講是一個很嚴重的事件而且對於公安對行車安全來講影響甚巨所以說這部分剛才我也說明過了台高公司大概也做了一些懲處而且重申是不得再犯當然他也對於他相關的這個檢查的SOP也做進一步的一個檢討\n\n16\n00:05:33,208 --> 00:05:48,955\n那在這樣的一個情況下我們的鐵道局呢也會去就他的公司裡頭有關行車安全的這一事情來做全面的一個檢查來檢視他的相關的SOP是不是有符合規定如果有相關不足的地方會要求改善\n\n17\n00:05:49,335 --> 00:06:17,287\n好那本席還是要表示今天來講高鐵的螺絲鬆動某個程度交通部要嘛積極介入不然也代表了交通部也會有責任那這樣子的一個國內大家習慣的高鐵的運輸這是非常重要的一個交通安全所以請部長、次長這邊務必一定要針對振興做個徹查跟社會大眾回應謝謝是是我們會嚴正處理謝謝優化委員的質詢請接著我們請陳秀寶委員質詢\n\n18\n00:06:25,813 --> 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03:21.141\n他們變成糾結在到底是要持續做這份工作嗎?還是因為那時候高鐵是叫他們說都對外不要再提這件事情?那他們是在生命權跟他們的一個工作權中他們要去做選擇。如果說今天來講高鐵它本身它是螺絲鬆動嗎?那以及說在這樣子那麼重大的一個\n\n03:21.841 --> 03:21.941\n主席\n\n03:39.842 --> 03:56.944\n有跟委員報告這相關的事情發生之後我們鐵道局當然也就剛才特別提到的在4月16號請臺高公司來做進一步的說明那說明之後他們會去做相關的一個實地的一個檢查或是書面的調查\n\n03:58.566 --> 04:21.287\n市長,我跟你講,不只這一件,包括在酒測的部分,高鐵的列車長在26號的時候有一個報導,他是規避酒測,那到時候高鐵的講法是,他有請負責監督的調派員,還來去給他洗酒測來去了解,但是事實上,這個部分也是採取歧視寧人的態度,因為到最後,\n\n04:22.328 --> 04:46.331\n內部的員工也再次的跟網紅委員辦公室這邊我們今天開記者會也爆料因為到最後是這個監測員去幫這個那個列車長去進行酒測那所以說這等於就像是警察他在執勤的時候民眾喝酒了他就警察在幫他酒測一樣這個等於是這樣子的一個狀況那我想就教一下次長\n\n04:47.572 --> 05:09.350\n高鐵它第一線其實在我們許多的服務商們看起來都做得很好可是在內部來講這樣的一個重大的公安危機是存在那麼高的風險甚至連列車長他如果是酒駕現在酒駕是零容忍的一個情況之下那就連去幫他調查幫他測的人他自己還可以幫他代為酒測那像這樣子的問題交通部都無法可管嗎?\n\n05:11.346 --> 05:32.347\n我想這樣的一個事件來講是一個很嚴重的事件而且對於公安對行車安全來講影響甚巨所以說這部分剛才我也說明過了台高公司大概也做了一些懲處而且重申是不得再犯當然他也對於他相關的這個檢查的SOP也做進一步的一個檢討\n\n05:33.208 --> 05:48.955\n那在這樣的一個情況下我們的鐵道局呢也會去就他的公司裡頭有關行車安全的這一事情來做全面的一個檢查來檢視他的相關的SOP是不是有符合規定如果有相關不足的地方會要求改善\n\n05:49.335 --> 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