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00:01:43,831\n基本資格、能力表現等等就可以看得出來因為這個現象為什麼陳市長會在第一時間馬上因為我想他領選市府領選完這個校長他已經存在著時間然後有人知道的知情不報這個應該這樣子說這個只要有通報當然立刻處理我們現在的性平法修法已經修到\n\n6\n00:01:44,611 --> 00:02:07,113\n對於這個還有嚴重的罰則所以通報這件事情我跟委員報告在教育現場只要知道因為他是一校支長所以這個大概我只是說各領域都會有一些我們社會令人驚訝的一些行為那教育領域我也說確實也有部分只是面對了應該要嚴謹快速的去做處置這是我們目前受害者是小學生\n\n7\n00:02:09,023 --> 00:02:13,005\n最不可攝所以陳市長非常快速積極的也認為這個是非常嚴重的範例這種情況不能再發生是不是你要檢討它是制度上有問題還是遴選程序有問題人的個別的狀態這個如果說要用所有什麼審查文等去把關未必\n\n8\n00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:41,541\n有些他就是永遠偷偷摸摸做這件事只是沒有被發現只是一旦被發現如果沒有處理的機制那政府失能如果一旦發現就是應該要勇敢甚至要直接汰除就要汰除永不入用那他的退休金他有沒有相關的這個津貼是不是全部一併取消\n\n9\n00:02:50,100 --> 00:03:01,882\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第3會期教育部立法院第4會期教育部立法院第5會期教育部立法院第6會期教育部立法院第7會期教育部立法院第8會期教育部立法院第9會期教育部立法院第10會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期\n\n10\n00:03:18,565 --> 00:03:37,475\n行法責任等,由司法單位作出處置。對於行政該做的處置,以高雄這個例子,高雄市政府已經非常積極。我們只是跟委員報告,這個案子我們提醒高雄市政府,不是這個個案,這個校長有服務過的學校,是否還有其他的受害者要一併出入。\n\n11\n00:03:39,176 --> 00:04:07,742\n今天討論偏遠地區學校偏遠地區學生的社會教育非常重要對於偏遠地區當然時空環境會一直變化那就必須要做動態的調整跟檢討一個原則不變對所謂的偏遠地區學校教育資源投入還是要持續不只持續而且要增加確保偏遠地區學生的社會教育權\n\n12\n00:04:08,542 --> 00:04:37,170\n就我的選區包括橋頭以北、橋頭、岡山、入竹、湖內、協定、永安、彌陀我想主席應該知道還有紫關我這八個區五十幾所中小學有哪些是被列為所謂偏遠學校?彭市長您知道嗎?彭市長您知道嗎?有幾所偏遠學校?站在你的定義裡面有名單會有提供給我\n\n13\n00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:56,264\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第13會期教育及文化委員會第14會期教育及文化委員會第14會\n\n14\n00:05:09,945 --> 00:05:28,197\n委員這個一定齁因為這個偏遠條例底下比如說我們每年總共大概26億投入在那一條那是基本的喔額外的我像那個醫生那個深圳用品版偏遠地區是一生一版欸我針對我的選區我去割那個委員你怎麼會爭取你學校都被照顧到很好欸不要說口惠時不至這我要去檢討一下委員因為都到縣地去看齁都在跟我們反映\n\n15\n00:05:35,882 --> 00:05:55,476\n因為老師的留任也很重要會來找我們陳琦有很多是老師老師因為很多因素家庭因素或者他要結婚他要生小孩他必須要留在他的比較居住地所以如果比較偏遠的地方他調動一去就七、八年\n\n16\n00:05:56,337 --> 00:06:02,920\n學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。則不允許學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案。則不允許學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案。\n\n17\n00:06:25,909 --> 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