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00:01:03,999\n我們知道在前端特別預算裡面我們總共有編列了260億\n\n5\n00:01:32,408 --> 00:01:39,971\n議註全國各地停車場的新建。對於彰化縣,我們總共應該是議註了有7.43億的經費。總共新建了5處的停車場,是不是?是,5處的停車場。目前進度大概如何?現在完工有4件,規劃中的還有1件。規劃中的是哪一件?\n\n6\n00:01:58,450 --> 00:02:07,316\n規劃中的是藍郭立體停車場在我的選區就是山河公園的地下停車場就我所知是還沒有辦落成的完工的目前完工了可是還沒有完工典禮還沒有正式的啟用\n\n7\n00:02:26,370 --> 00:02:47,403\n其實這個停車場對於都市化的地區真的是非常的重要。那我們也知道就是說最近幾年很多就是對於這個交通安全的一個改善跟提升也是受到國人很大的一個期待跟關注尤其就是要改善這個行人地域這樣子的一個交通的亂\n\n8\n00:02:49,785 --> 00:03:16,595\n其實我們知道交通的亂象都是息息相關的所以你看歷經去年的檢舉達人檢舉的一個狀況事實上也是因為我們很多的公共設施不足所以在這種狀況之下你導致很多民眾他要在停車的時候他的需求就是不足所以就是說在這種狀況之下要去取締這個違規真的也是造成很多的一個民怨\n\n9\n00:03:17,355 --> 00:03:40,166\n所以我在這邊要講的就是說很多當然我們剛剛那個李委員有提到其實很多委員都期待就是說未來對於地方的這個停車場的一個需求還是有這樣子的很大的一個需求所以我們未來希望就是說在這個部分交通部還是要去努力的爭取啦因為我想當然這個前瞻特別預算\n\n10\n00:03:40,806 --> 00:03:56,909\n是在本預算以外的特別預算,可能也不是教育部可以就是言議就有的。所以我想就是說可能要透過院會的一個反應來爭取,就是說針對這些部分我們應該要再去據理力爭。\n\n11\n00:03:58,751 --> 00:04:22,245\n是這一部分我今天早上也對幾個委員大概說過我們也了解到停車問題的一個解決對很多縣市政府來講都非常的重要所以這一部分有關前瞻的這個停車場的預算結束之後呢後續相關的一個經費的預算的來源這我們會認真的去研議看用什麼方式來提供這樣的一個預算計畫讓縣市政府能夠繼續來申請\n\n12\n00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:51,779\n好謝謝那其實這幾年就是說因為有特別預算就是前瞻特別預算讓我們地方很多的大型的公共建設可以來推動包括這個提升道路品質因為這個部分也讓我們整個地方的這個道路品質都可以提升所以我覺得在這些的一個政績方面我們也希望交通部要多多的做了宣傳讓人民可以有更具體的一個感受\n\n13\n00:04:52,620 --> 00:05:12,462\n那再來我要講的就是有關這個TPAS的月票使用的情形。這個是我們就是後來的疫後潤性經濟這個特別預算的部分。那在這個部分目前就我所知就是說目前使用的人數都是在60多萬人,是不是?次長。\n\n14\n00:05:13,743 --> 00:05:31,254\n平均這個加值是60幾萬人次在加值每個月意思就是說一個月到了會有再繼續有60幾萬人所以平均應該就是全國就是每個月大概都是60多萬的人次人數在使用\n\n15\n00:05:32,054 --> 00:05:43,554\n所以看起來就是北部就是北台灣及北北桃的使用率比較高對於其他縣市應該使用率比較低在中南部來說\n\n16\n00:05:45,406 --> 00:06:01,013\n原則上當然會有一些程度上的不同,但是整體而言TPAS下去以後對整體使用的運量大概是增加到15.8,所以應該是有一定的一個成長,那在不同的運距別之間呢,它的成長更是不一樣。\n\n17\n00:06:02,293 --> 00:06:21,646\n那當然就是說就整個使用的狀況就是看起來也是城鄉有差距了有城鄉的差距那另外就是說就整體的這個使用人次來說目前停留在60多萬的話那我們交通部有沒有去考慮到如何提升這個使用的人次\n\n18\n00:06:22,746 --> 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謝謝那其實這幾年就是說因為有特別預算就是前瞻特別預算讓我們地方很多的大型的公共建設可以來推動包括這個提升道路品質因為這個部分也讓我們整個地方的這個道路品質都可以提升所以我覺得在這些的一個政績方面我們也希望交通部要多多的做了宣傳讓人民可以有更具體的一個感受\n那再來我要講的就是有關這個TPAS的月票使用的情形。這個是我們就是後來的疫後潤性經濟這個特別預算的部分。那在這個部分目前就我所知就是說目前使用的人數都是在60多萬人,是不是?次長。\n平均這個加值是60幾萬人次在加值每個月意思就是說一個月到了會有再繼續有60幾萬人所以平均應該就是全國就是每個月大概都是60多萬的人次人數在使用\n所以看起來就是北部就是北台灣及北北桃的使用率比較高對於其他縣市應該使用率比較低在中南部來說\n原則上當然會有一些程度上的不同,但是整體而言TPAS下去以後對整體使用的運量大概是增加到15.8,所以應該是有一定的一個成長,那在不同的運距別之間呢,它的成長更是不一樣。\n那當然就是說就整個使用的狀況就是看起來也是城鄉有差距了有城鄉的差距那另外就是說就整體的這個使用人次來說目前停留在60多萬的話那我們交通部有沒有去考慮到如何提升這個使用的人次\n我想這一部分我們會在應該是下一期啦,其實明年開始我們會去有一些交通平權,其實平權就是剛才講的對於其他的縣市政府,不是北北季以外的縣市政府,如何提升他的TPAS或公共運輸的使用率的這樣的一個措施,會在這裡頭後續來推出。\n我覺得除了區域性的考量之外就是說一般一個普遍性的提升的話本席在這邊就是要建議就是說因為我有接到鄉親的一個反應就是說因為我們目前是以月票的一個形式每個月儲值一千二的使用是不是\n那個是北北基桃的對,就是說以北部來為例的話可是就是說對有的民眾來說他一個月可能使用大概15次他的需求可能只有15次所以你要他扶植一千二的話對他來說可能就是相較之下也沒有更多的一個幫助所以在這個部分我們是不是會再去考量就是更細節的客製化跟台製化\n接著我們請楊瓊英委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.014 --> 00:04.174\n主席\n\n00:16.683 --> 00:22.506\n市長午安首先我要在這邊說的就是對於曾經歷經這個前瞻特別條例跟前瞻特別預算審查的委員來說今天在這邊應該感觸非常的深因為就是在同樣一個會議室\n\n00:35.571 --> 00:46.234\n想當年在審查這個條例跟特別預算的時候我們遭受到很大的一個阻擾雖然在那個時候這樣子的面臨的這個丟水球丟麵粉這樣子的將紛亂的分斷的一個狀況之下我們讓這個前瞻特別預算終於通過了那時間真的過得很快一轉眼這明年就到期了114年就到期了\n\n01:02.358 --> 01:03.999\n我們知道在前端特別預算裡面我們總共有編列了260億\n\n01:32.408 --> 01:39.971\n議註全國各地停車場的新建。對於彰化縣,我們總共應該是議註了有7.43億的經費。總共新建了5處的停車場,是不是?是,5處的停車場。目前進度大概如何?現在完工有4件,規劃中的還有1件。規劃中的是哪一件?\n\n01:58.450 --> 02:07.316\n規劃中的是藍郭立體停車場在我的選區就是山河公園的地下停車場就我所知是還沒有辦落成的完工的目前完工了可是還沒有完工典禮還沒有正式的啟用\n\n02:26.370 --> 02:47.403\n其實這個停車場對於都市化的地區真的是非常的重要。那我們也知道就是說最近幾年很多就是對於這個交通安全的一個改善跟提升也是受到國人很大的一個期待跟關注尤其就是要改善這個行人地域這樣子的一個交通的亂\n\n02:49.785 --> 03:16.595\n其實我們知道交通的亂象都是息息相關的所以你看歷經去年的檢舉達人檢舉的一個狀況事實上也是因為我們很多的公共設施不足所以在這種狀況之下你導致很多民眾他要在停車的時候他的需求就是不足所以就是說在這種狀況之下要去取締這個違規真的也是造成很多的一個民怨\n\n03:17.355 --> 03:40.166\n所以我在這邊要講的就是說很多當然我們剛剛那個李委員有提到其實很多委員都期待就是說未來對於地方的這個停車場的一個需求還是有這樣子的很大的一個需求所以我們未來希望就是說在這個部分交通部還是要去努力的爭取啦因為我想當然這個前瞻特別預算\n\n03:40.806 --> 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