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00:03:25,280\n好,我委員報告一下,剛才委員有講到嘉義市鐵路高架那部分,相關的經費,其實要謝謝委員的大力支持,幫我們協助,所以目前修正計畫大概4月3號已經核定了,然後而且也讓這個嘉義市的負擔,簡單講在委員的這個努力下,大概減少1億元的負擔,所以想這部分,\n\n10\n00:03:27,681 --> 00:03:36,625\n你若說到這,我本來是要跟你討論,我是想私底下跟你討論。你一旦說到這,我告訴你,大家疫情都沒有完畏發生,每一個關期,你會好定的預算給他,現在企業的選,你有前瞻,為甚麼你不想頂管報告,是不是要用專案來補助每一個關期才對?\n\n11\n00:03:56,141 --> 00:04:04,368\n你保證給他的錢平均是90億,你現在還要去負擔90億的時候,還有關於什麼人有疫情,所以我們的政府有擔當,應該是要你們處理得對,讓他們來承擔,來,六位大姐。\n\n12\n00:04:20,201 --> 00:04:20,962\n政府財政及各縣市經費分攤原則\n\n13\n00:04:36,582 --> 00:04:51,612\n要做是會成功的,因為有專案、有前瞻的經費,我們說實在,對一個經濟合法的管治的時候,你一定好在後面的經費,你叫他去負擔這個,讓你像買房子,買房子以後我賣你的,如果賣你一千萬,現在去的,是家鄉要負責的,不是買的人要負責的,我必然這樣,你聽到沒有?\n\n14\n00:05:06,822 --> 00:05:18,025\n請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。\n\n15\n00:05:31,949 --> 00:05:41,133\n包括說的教育期的施政就一樣,跟一個報告,你如果不去看,到現在已經三十年了,還沒換一個電算,如果你簽一個字,簽不發生,這是安全問題,如果會廢銷,你跟我說報告,你要協助當地的管制國境開一個會啊,\n\n16\n00:05:59,060 --> 00:06:14,789\n你這條清規不是加上他自己的問題而已,加上他官司,都要趕快啦!那時候不在嘛,大家可以跟我說,他要開一個會給官司,官司長來開會啦!你說如果我說這樣,國安局就投降啦!\n\n17\n00:06:18,493 --> 00:06:42,369\n委員報告啦,可能說得不太詳細啦,就是說整個嘉義市跟嘉義縣的路網,我們一定有討論過,而且同意被查。現在下來就是,就這個路網裡頭跟嘉義的藍線的部分,他要做可行性研究,那個是所有的建設,只要是捷運的建設都要有這個定數啦。所以這部分,我們在籍碼、寶座、嘉義市要來做,要做的規定中,我們得跟他們協助啦。\n\n18\n00:06:50,115 --> 00:06:51,276\n委員會主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n249\t4895\t請陳次跟經濟部請林次二位請問你們這兩位主管,你們知道我來自哪裡嗎?\n18872\t31175\t在這裏面的規定當中,我認為討論前瞻的規定及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,先讓大家知道,我們這次用前瞻的經費,都是我們有名化的。\n49673\t60741\t但在這幾宗,大家都有看過管制的成果出來。尤其在這次,我們要和我們政治討論一個\n63712\t69759\t鐵路高架,因為現在已經漸漸完形,漸漸完形的時候,大家都說你知道台積電封測要去隔壁館,洗手嘛,是不是?是嘛齁?\n80831\t101937\t大家都煩惱說加2次會變年化,但本席在這裏是覺得說,我們加加2次要共融,才有辦法加2次會變成更好。所以本席要跟你們說,要如何共融的時候要有一個方便的交通。在本席跟你們說的就是,前瞻性也好,前瞻也好,\n110270\t117955\t因為漸漸時間只剩1天而已。1天內,加2次臨潭水庫的水管,有經濟性的驗告查1點的時候,你要怎麼協助當地的加2次?這我希望,\n134383\t144874\t交通部委及觀光署要注意這個問題。未來最初,大家都煩惱教育區的邊緣化。交通要方便的時候,就是要有一條清軌。清軌裡面就是教育管制。\n156586\t177141\t所建設的交通,加以市政府也已經被交通部申請。所以本市,希望是在交通部的,可以國間來統籌、來處理。本市在這,所謂意見,麻煩做一次回答。\n182366\t205280\t好,我委員報告一下,剛才委員有講到嘉義市鐵路高架那部分,相關的經費,其實要謝謝委員的大力支持,幫我們協助,所以目前修正計畫大概4月3號已經核定了,然後而且也讓這個嘉義市的負擔,簡單講在委員的這個努力下,大概減少1億元的負擔,所以想這部分,\n207681\t216625\t你若說到這,我本來是要跟你討論,我是想私底下跟你討論。你一旦說到這,我告訴你,大家疫情都沒有完畏發生,每一個關期,你會好定的預算給他,現在企業的選,你有前瞻,為甚麼你不想頂管報告,是不是要用專案來補助每一個關期才對?\n236141\t244368\t你保證給他的錢平均是90億,你現在還要去負擔90億的時候,還有關於什麼人有疫情,所以我們的政府有擔當,應該是要你們處理得對,讓他們來承擔,來,六位大姐。\n260201\t260962\t政府財政及各縣市經費分攤原則\n276582\t291612\t要做是會成功的,因為有專案、有前瞻的經費,我們說實在,對一個經濟合法的管治的時候,你一定好在後面的經費,你叫他去負擔這個,讓你像買房子,買房子以後我賣你的,如果賣你一千萬,現在去的,是家鄉要負責的,不是買的人要負責的,我必然這樣,你聽到沒有?\n306822\t318025\t請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。\n331949\t341133\t包括說的教育期的施政就一樣,跟一個報告,你如果不去看,到現在已經三十年了,還沒換一個電算,如果你簽一個字,簽不發生,這是安全問題,如果會廢銷,你跟我說報告,你要協助當地的管制國境開一個會啊,\n359060\t374789\t你這條清規不是加上他自己的問題而已,加上他官司,都要趕快啦!那時候不在嘛,大家可以跟我說,他要開一個會給官司,官司長來開會啦!你說如果我說這樣,國安局就投降啦!\n378493\t402369\t委員報告啦,可能說得不太詳細啦,就是說整個嘉義市跟嘉義縣的路網,我們一定有討論過,而且同意被查。現在下來就是,就這個路網裡頭跟嘉義的藍線的部分,他要做可行性研究,那個是所有的建設,只要是捷運的建設都要有這個定數啦。所以這部分,我們在籍碼、寶座、嘉義市要來做,要做的規定中,我們得跟他們協助啦。\n410115\t411276\t委員會主席\n","txt":"請陳次跟經濟部請林次二位請問你們這兩位主管,你們知道我來自哪裡嗎?\n在這裏面的規定當中,我認為討論前瞻的規定及後議的強化的經濟當中,在這個規定當中,先讓大家知道,我們這次用前瞻的經費,都是我們有名化的。\n但在這幾宗,大家都有看過管制的成果出來。尤其在這次,我們要和我們政治討論一個\n鐵路高架,因為現在已經漸漸完形,漸漸完形的時候,大家都說你知道台積電封測要去隔壁館,洗手嘛,是不是?是嘛齁?\n大家都煩惱說加2次會變年化,但本席在這裏是覺得說,我們加加2次要共融,才有辦法加2次會變成更好。所以本席要跟你們說,要如何共融的時候要有一個方便的交通。在本席跟你們說的就是,前瞻性也好,前瞻也好,\n因為漸漸時間只剩1天而已。1天內,加2次臨潭水庫的水管,有經濟性的驗告查1點的時候,你要怎麼協助當地的加2次?這我希望,\n交通部委及觀光署要注意這個問題。未來最初,大家都煩惱教育區的邊緣化。交通要方便的時候,就是要有一條清軌。清軌裡面就是教育管制。\n所建設的交通,加以市政府也已經被交通部申請。所以本市,希望是在交通部的,可以國間來統籌、來處理。本市在這,所謂意見,麻煩做一次回答。\n好,我委員報告一下,剛才委員有講到嘉義市鐵路高架那部分,相關的經費,其實要謝謝委員的大力支持,幫我們協助,所以目前修正計畫大概4月3號已經核定了,然後而且也讓這個嘉義市的負擔,簡單講在委員的這個努力下,大概減少1億元的負擔,所以想這部分,\n你若說到這,我本來是要跟你討論,我是想私底下跟你討論。你一旦說到這,我告訴你,大家疫情都沒有完畏發生,每一個關期,你會好定的預算給他,現在企業的選,你有前瞻,為甚麼你不想頂管報告,是不是要用專案來補助每一個關期才對?\n你保證給他的錢平均是90億,你現在還要去負擔90億的時候,還有關於什麼人有疫情,所以我們的政府有擔當,應該是要你們處理得對,讓他們來承擔,來,六位大姐。\n政府財政及各縣市經費分攤原則\n要做是會成功的,因為有專案、有前瞻的經費,我們說實在,對一個經濟合法的管治的時候,你一定好在後面的經費,你叫他去負擔這個,讓你像買房子,買房子以後我賣你的,如果賣你一千萬,現在去的,是家鄉要負責的,不是買的人要負責的,我必然這樣,你聽到沒有?\n請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。請問議員的意見,我們還在看研究。\n包括說的教育期的施政就一樣,跟一個報告,你如果不去看,到現在已經三十年了,還沒換一個電算,如果你簽一個字,簽不發生,這是安全問題,如果會廢銷,你跟我說報告,你要協助當地的管制國境開一個會啊,\n你這條清規不是加上他自己的問題而已,加上他官司,都要趕快啦!那時候不在嘛,大家可以跟我說,他要開一個會給官司,官司長來開會啦!你說如果我說這樣,國安局就投降啦!\n委員報告啦,可能說得不太詳細啦,就是說整個嘉義市跟嘉義縣的路網,我們一定有討論過,而且同意被查。現在下來就是,就這個路網裡頭跟嘉義的藍線的部分,他要做可行性研究,那個是所有的建設,只要是捷運的建設都要有這個定數啦。所以這部分,我們在籍碼、寶座、嘉義市要來做,要做的規定中,我們得跟他們協助啦。\n委員會主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.249 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