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00:00:42,888\n市長好董事長好關於台鐵票價的一個調整當然是社會已經討論很久的一個議題其實我認為台鐵的票價的調整與否的確有它討論的一個空間但是目前台鐵所提出調漲的這個理由都太單薄了\n\n3\n00:00:44,028 --> 00:01:09,695\n就是說因為29年沒有調整或是經營的成本等等這個我們對於調整要人民多交一塊錢都要以最嚴謹的態度來做一個說明就算了只調整一塊錢這都是很嚴肅的事情對於台鐵我認為在討論調整這個票價與否之前你必須要清楚跟民眾說明\n\n4\n00:01:11,235 --> 00:01:25,262\n我們的安全我們的服務我們的準點要做到什麼程度預計要做到什麼程度當然這幾年我們對於相關的服務我們花了很多的錢買新車\n\n5\n00:01:27,003 --> 00:01:43,187\n我們大概花了將近1000億買EMU900型跟EMU3000型那車輛其實都幾乎都已經要到了啦EMU900大概520輛都已經到了都到了那EMU3000預計來600輛也564輛也已經到了嘛對今年8月會到今年8月都會到就會到期嘛\n\n6\n00:01:52,870 --> 00:02:13,315\n你買新車我們也花很多的錢去改善安全我們的六點行車安全改善計畫我們的智慧的電路智慧化的提升計畫以及我們的小半徑彎曲的改善計畫以及我們的軌道結構安全的改善計畫加起來都超過800億耶\n\n7\n00:02:15,253 --> 00:02:29,587\n但是我們對安全我們要給我們的旅客怎樣的一個標準我們來看我們的安全我們以2024年一到三月來看我們的陣線出軌還有一件\n\n8\n00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:52,200\n杜董事長我們的這些事故也高達18件一至三月呢2023年全年有41件一至三月現在就已經18件我們如果跟民眾說我們台鐵的安全一定是以最高的標準來要求這樣你要跟人家說要企業啊人家這聽下去第二個\n\n9\n00:02:54,162 --> 00:03:20,617\n我們來看我們相關的這些邊坡落實的告警這個當初我的建議也謝謝台鐵有逐步的在落實這一次的地震也有部分發揮它應該有的功能這個都要趕快的去做好在明年中之前相關的落實告警明年中之前還有38處要完成是不是來能不能完成可以在明年6月都會完成好另外\n\n10\n00:03:21,637 --> 00:03:34,065\n雲南會2024年的零度運輸安全改善建立評估報告我們台鐵的改善的這個結案率只有67%還有3成以上都沒有完成\n\n11\n00:03:35,775 --> 00:03:58,572\n這個要去落實也要提升啊這個杜董事長你們都要去加強要做到安全才來跟民眾講調整票價的議題另外就是對於服務讓我們現在有很多行車要趕快的上線尤其是花東現在U3000上線他的座位比較多嘛\n\n12\n00:03:59,292 --> 00:04:24,532\n所以一位籃球的狀況會逐步的改善這個要趕快去加強相關的服務另外就是準點率啦我們台鐵號稱我們準點率有上升2021年準點率是92.812023年準點率是95.98我們的準點率是不超過5分鐘嘛是不是是日本是1分鐘日本的1分鐘也準點率跟我們差不多\n\n13\n00:04:26,188 --> 00:04:39,198\n我們是五分鐘這個還要再更精準的去做提升但是實際上我們看到霧點的車次其實沒有明顯減少你認為說準點率有提升但是霧點車次\n\n14\n00:04:41,667 --> 00:04:55,750\n沒有明顯清楚就是說誤點的時間反而明顯的增長你現在說你準點率有提升但是你的誤點時間明顯增長你看2021年平均延誤時間是19分間19.6年那2023年平均延誤時間是提升到21.27年這個都要去改善而且2024年1到2月\n\n15\n00:05:07,393 --> 00:05:18,162\n總共有5萬3305個車次延誤1到5分有8699列延誤6到44分有2011列延誤45分以上有73列你都在延誤準點差點要跟人家說去票價另外我們這個台鐵相關的安全你看我們的這個列車霧點的因素的統計\n\n16\n00:05:37,711 --> 00:05:47,298\n天然災變、耗資故障、車輛故障、ATP故障、平交道、外屋入侵等等這些故障的類型就佔45%以上\n\n17\n00:05:50,199 --> 00:06:15,531\n董事長台鐵要永續經營安全必須要提升服務必須要提升準點必須要提升我們才有資格跟人民說這個需要漲價不能單單以說票價很久沒漲了我們要調整或成本的問題我們要換另外一個角度跟民眾說我們安全要做到什麼程度\n\n18\n00:06:16,391 --> 00:06:26,183\n服務要做到什麼程度新車進來怎樣的增加座位服務的狀況以及準點要提升到怎樣的標準\n\n19\n00:06:27,182 --> 00:06:41,386\n我們在討論票價調整的時候必須安全服務準點必須要提出來跟民眾來做說明另外一個問題就是說好現在大家在討論啊現在企業說要企業啊北高企業就要跟台鐵差不多啊會不會反而對我們的運輸會有衝擊跟影響來說明一下\n\n20\n00:06:47,980 --> 00:07:10,980\n跟委員報告我們對整個研究會有一些細部的調整像剛剛講北高我們應該就會去研議看是不是用地遠地簡的方式讓這個票價能夠更合理所以相關的這些研議我們現在還在進行現在說大家也在猜測\n\n21\n00:07:12,543 --> 00:07:30,999\n例如北高高台鐵的票價會漲到1144或者是到1219那原本現在目前是843嘛你要調整到1144或者是到1219那其實大家覺得搭高鐵就好啦因為高鐵票價是1490啊\n\n22\n00:07:33,842 --> 00:07:48,935\n這個會不會衝擊到這個真的要去好好的思考我還是認為說台鐵要永續經營台鐵的這樣的一個安全或是服務準點都要提升之外當然票價的調整\n\n23\n00:07:50,404 --> 00:08:14,673\n我想民眾是認為已經有討論的空間有討論的空間但是我們要討論票價調整必須要清楚跟民眾說安全會到達什麼程度我們要相關的事故會降低到多少以下或是我們的服務我們的新車我們的座位提升多少服務的品質提升多少我們的相關的\n\n24\n00:08:16,141 --> 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