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00:02:56,719\n好謝謝謝謝委員的槌尋那我想我們對這個樂嶺的旅遊是非常的重視所以不管是在旅宿的一個選擇交通運具的一個搭乘或者是遊程那就是像這種長輩有些那無障礙的一個需求在我們的國家風景區裡面其實都有這種無障礙的這樣的一個設施那在交通運具或者是說這個旅宿的部分的話我們有一個這個專案就是一個樂嶺的一個黃金的一個專案那也鼓勵著旅行社去包裝這個行程不管從景點\n\n9\n00:03:00,861 --> 00:03:18,212\n本席的意思是我們關公署也應該要主動可以來跟台鐵甚至高鐵來做一個怎麼樣一個整合因為你們如果沒有去整合這些業者他們將本就利他們一定是考慮到成本那你們關公署沒有出手的話怎麼樣去做一個整合\n\n10\n00:03:18,732 --> 00:03:46,401\n是報告委員吼那我們除了剛剛這個旅行社的一個整合之外吼那也跟呃台鐵公司這邊我們有合作推出這個台灣帕斯的一個套票所以也是鼓勵我們呃這個呃不管是國際的一個旅客或者是我們呃國內的一個呃這個旅客吼都可以利用這個台灣帕斯吼整合台灣好行還有這個呃捷運還有還有這個呃鐵鐵路然後把整個在一個同一個票券用這樣的方式吼去做旅行\n\n11\n00:03:46,581 --> 00:04:14,241\n好這部分我們還是請關公署跟我們相關的呃台鐵公司來做個整理因為次長我再請教一下我們4月8號有到屏東交通委員會考察嗎對那當時我想呃我們有要求說一個鐵路的一個安全性的問題那其中最重要的部分就是所謂的一個鐵路高架化那尤其屏東還有好幾個呃車站的部分都還屬於一個平面那當然造成所謂一個交通事故那\n\n12\n00:04:14,821 --> 00:04:15,061\n徐富癸\n\n13\n00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:54,514\n跟委員報告首先那個我們公司的安全管理委員會已經成立了那因為他必須要依據這個要點還有一些推動的模式需要經過董事會的一個決議那這些程序都已經完成所以我們可以在這個月開始讓安全管理委員會正常運作\n\n14\n00:04:55,575 --> 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