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00:02:10,337\n好那就請董事董事長可以就把過去在兩年前這個找鳥的這個相關的資料也給交通委員會的各位委員能夠再做參考也希望未來能夠提升競爭力的找鳥優惠或者是大學生的這種相關的優惠措施那這都可以讓台鐵更具競爭力那我在想說未來也請可以持續來演繹再來開啟好不好是是\n\n7\n00:02:12,438 --> 00:02:35,380\n好謝謝那我本席接著要再請這個鐵道局長以及公安署副署長還能夠一起上台那我就直接接著我們南投縣現在重大的一個議題就是有關於極極支線改善工程現在南投的極極支線基礎設施改善計畫過去在許書華現場擔任立委期間那就非常的用心的在爭取我相信那時候\n\n8\n00:02:36,521 --> 00:02:55,496\n這個鐵路局其實都非常清楚那時候台鐵其實都非常的來協助我們南投線配合許淑華的一個經費爭取到高達這23.63億但是像現在來講的話過去他其實是在車程這一段集集往車程這一段再做一個整修那那時候的邊坡有坍塌我那時候擔任議員期間就陪許縣長那時候擔任立委來去參與這個相關邊坡整治的一個會刊\n\n9\n00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:28,672\n那時候其實在這個停止的過程在急急往車程的這一段不管是水裡的車站還有包括車程的這個整個觀光的風景區都造成很大的一個影響因為現在來講是沒有辦法有火車能夠進去那時候其實整理計畫是預計115年7月完工但是在現在來講的話又增加了急急到水裡的這一段也要做一個停止董事長您也清楚嗎\n\n10\n00:03:30,776 --> 00:03:44,976\n在這個過程中其實那時候在3月的時候就直接通知了4月要來做一個就是急急先往後的一個停止所以現在只能到濁水車站那用這個客運來做一個替代可是我想要就教一下董事長\n\n11\n00:03:45,356 --> 00:04:07,230\n那這個對於我們地方的觀光衝擊是非常大的影響那董事長對於我們這條支線從濁水溪直接衝擊的就是我們的集集的周遭火車站的這些攤商而且這個施工期間將近一年八個月啊那些攤商真的會鳴不了聲那我想請教一下董事長這個部分有沒有什麼樣的一個方案可以來協助我們這邊攤商跟集集的觀光業\n\n12\n00:04:08,158 --> 00:04:33,363\n首先感謝委員因為在發生坍塌的那段期間給我們很大的協助二號跟三號隧道中間那裡那現在其實在5月1號開始我們就是只有行駛到佐水那我們的配套就是我們加強這個觀光性質的接駁車包括路線有一點改變那沿途索金都是跟觀光比較有關係的\n\n13\n00:04:34,443 --> 00:04:37,188\n那另外就是我們也加強這個接駁車的一個辦事的疏運\n\n14\n00:04:40,816 --> 00:05:05,904\n好,那董事長我接著敲下一頁好了那在許淑華許縣長過去在2022年5月24號在地方上有召開協調會那也包括在座不管是台鐵還包括觀光局包括公路局大家共同來探討如何協助這些攤商以及地方的觀光產業坦白講我們的集集鎮長吳大村跟地方民帶非常的配合台鐵還來做這個相關的一個停止作業\n\n15\n00:05:06,544 --> 00:05:07,184\n有關於台鐵公司的部分我們可以來研議\n\n16\n00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:58,999\n有關於積極支線不管是車程或者是水裡的車站那觀光局這邊或者是入管處都有協助在車站整體的環境的一個整理那像前一陣子完成的水裡的一個自行車道或者是車程的一個觀光小學堂的一個建置我想這個都對於這個整體的一個觀光的效益有所幫助\n\n17\n00:05:59,540 --> 00:06:28,648\n好,我這個是過去所做的,沒錯那這個樂松觀光協議堂我也有過去那我是希望後面我們本席還是會邀請包括董事長或是觀光署以及鐵路局這邊還有公務局一起來在地方開一個協調會把本席剛才所提的比照那時候許縣長擔任立委期間水里到車程的這一段現在在集集這邊能夠把這些相關的減免措施或是補償優惠或是振興方案到時候做一個探討好不好\n\n18\n00:06:29,488 --> 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