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00:00:38,038\n部長早部長這是我昨天收到的一張明信片這張明信片是一位男大副小六年級的學生寫給我的小學六年級喔你知道他裡面寫什麼我唸給你聽喔\n\n3\n00:00:40,167 --> 00:01:06,436\n親愛的委員你好我是南大副小六甲學生經過班級的乳牛專題課程之後得知2025年紐西蘭液態乳進口恐嚴重影響我國弱農業請您支持修法必要採取行動將我們的進口乳能夠更名為長效乳以保障我國弱農生計\n\n4\n00:01:09,659 --> 00:01:28,346\n小學六年級部長你有沒有很感動小學六年級他會關注這個議題會關注我們農業的發展那我們呢我們動作會不會太慢了我們動作會不會太慢了\n\n5\n00:01:29,367 --> 00:01:32,009\n農業部已經完成了這樣的一個動作,把長效乳的相關的規範提供給衛務部。\n\n6\n00:01:59,403 --> 00:02:10,314\n所以你們把相關資料建議都給衛福部了好多久?多久可以研擬出來?這是2025喔2025要面對的喔現在已經是2024已經是五月中下旬了\n\n7\n00:02:16,107 --> 00:02:32,347\n理解,我們整個長江澳爐的這些建議已經在4月1號提供委務部了那我也跟委員說明就是爐品的這些標示是在整個環節裡面一個非常重要的一個環節但這不是唯一的我想我們還有很多配套措施去支持整個弱農產業的發展部長\n\n8\n00:02:35,031 --> 00:02:58,610\n今天民眾要有知的權利這是最根本的他要去實質分別什麼是進口什麼是國內自己生產的你要很清楚讓他了解連一個小學生都知道你一個小學生我看到這張明信片我好感動但我覺得我們太慢\n\n9\n00:02:59,997 --> 00:03:00,157\n瞭解\n\n10\n00:03:16,124 --> 00:03:30,481\n如果他是落農產地的學生你說哇可能他的爸爸媽媽自己本身是從事這樣的行業是他會擔心不是喔他這一間學校是在我們的市區並不是落農的學區\n\n11\n00:03:32,375 --> 00:03:46,250\n所以表示我們不斷的在提醒這樣的議題它是有效果的慢慢的大家會關注那關注之後大家就藉著標示去了解我該怎麼選擇\n\n12\n00:03:48,323 --> 00:04:15,405\n這是一件好事,而不是像部長所說的,它不是唯一,可是它卻是最重要的那一環。我跟委員說明,像國產品牛奶的標示我們也積極的在推動,包括我們現在的標章有明確的標示台灣乳,台灣的鮮乳。所以未來就是你不可以用牛奶去混進口乳,你要貼這個標籤,特別是這個標籤貼上去以後,就能夠去證明是國產的台灣乳。\n\n13\n00:04:17,166 --> 00:04:40,000\n這部分我們已經在做了我知道我們有在做是時間點呢時間點呢你4月1號才提給衛福部然後你們現在所做的標示你們有在做時間呢請給我們時間而且你們包括要給落農的補助要所謂的淘汰乳牛的部分\n\n14\n00:04:42,699 --> 00:05:05,480\n我跟委員報告就是我們針對若榮的整個養牛產業的一個計畫我們已經抱怨那整個經費達到29億那相對的只要行政院核定了以後那我想就是還沒核定嘛就是還沒核定嘛還沒核定就是空的嘛\n\n15\n00:05:06,533 --> 00:05:28,537\n多久我再次強調2025我們就要面對這一波衝擊了現在已經是五月中了我們還在等我不知道在等什麼我跟委員說明喔就是來這個部長我要再請教一下我跟你討論的是我們在農漁農漁災損的認定的SOP\n\n16\n00:05:32,847 --> 00:05:50,435\n我們過去其實都是有地方來做認定但是現在因為我們農業部從陳其中部長到你我們都用最快速的從中央直接要求地方還有相關的單位從農糧署到農改廠去做一些核定\n\n17\n00:05:51,670 --> 00:06:10,867\n大家就忘記了原來地方政府要付出他相對的責任我就拿這一次芒果的摘損認定我3月20號就已經跟部長反映了這個都有通年紀錄的啦我直接就跟部長反映甚至也做了很多的槌尋\n\n18\n00:06:12,796 --> 00:06:28,881\n好,3月20號向部長反映部長有說因為當時候包括龍眼包括荔枝芒果他們的灰基本上都沒有像之前這樣所以當時候就是荔枝跟龍眼我們先合訂了\n\n19\n00:06:29,895 --> 00:06:58,673\n對不对然後芒果因為他比較晚一點所以大概要確認是在4月4月下旬對當時候你說4月中旬所以我在4月8號我就安排了經濟委員會南下會刊是對不對所以部長您也當場決意說在4月中下旬要開始要求地方政府還有我們中央來協助做茶菇的動作對不對是\n\n20\n00:07:00,455 --> 00:07:26,531\n五月初台南市政府完成調查在這段時間地方農民就很擔心到底有沒有到底有沒有可是當時候根本市政府也都慢半拍才開始進行所謂的查估所以在五月初完成調查之後我們五月七號在昨天晚上我們就馬上公告了今天就開始申請\n\n21\n00:07:27,850 --> 00:07:53,609\n做現金救助的部分對不對對好我現在跟你討論的是今天從3月20號我跟部長反映為什麼大家會擔心確實結論也是有現金救助也確實有災損對不對是那經驗值嘛3月20號以前所有的農民跟我們反映的一看一個經營調費總控就是今年很差\n\n22\n00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:26,270\n但是我們當時候就說我們還要等這時間這個過程其實農民人心惶惶市政府又沒有啟動只有聽到我們中央不斷的說我們要等四月中旬四月下旬地方都不動所以這所謂的一個災損的部分我覺得我們要做一個SOP的一個所謂認定標準的一個處理全責在哪裡\n\n23\n00:08:27,588 --> 00:08:48,114\n不要讓農民我們現在中央很盡責任結果地方好像就在等中央那農民呢農民就是向地方中央這樣子看你看他看你看他3月20號就跟你反映這件事了對不對經過了多久\n\n24\n00:08:51,638 --> 00:09:08,707\n所以部長我覺得這個所謂災損認定的部分勢必不論是農業或漁業都應該要訂出一個標準地方政府要有責任不能像現在這樣有用做路責等於做路照\n\n25\n00:09:12,183 --> 00:09:39,497\n對,是不是部長最後我想謝謝委員的一個建議那事實上我們現在有已經有一個SOB那後續我想我們會跟各地方政府更做更積極的一個互動他要趕快啟動嘛不是我們一直喊一直喊他都不動那我們的審查我想也根據當初跟委員的反應我們也是照不來啦我們還是照相關的情況而且經過示範會跟確認的以後可以知道地方農民等多久\n\n26\n00:09:40,606 --> 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