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00:02:23,087\n這個經濟的一個時間這個7月1號就還相當久這個7月1號現在當時我們發生是4月3號啊\n\n6\n00:02:32,658 --> 00:02:59,613\n施業上號到現在都還沒有辦法實施因為這個部分其實不是那麼困難的因為過去都很有經驗這個疫後的疫情之後為了要那個都有很多的經驗把它拿來複製就可以了何況過去這個花蓮的造成的地震或是其他縣市的造成的\n\n7\n00:03:00,894 --> 00:03:17,009\n這個相關風災啊都有都有很多的一個可以參考的所以這個部分要請農業部這個農糧署在這邊去多加油這個第一個時間可以提早嗎\n\n8\n00:03:19,526 --> 00:03:39,385\n我跟委員說明就是這個地震我想針對農產品因為道路中斷的關係會影響到農產品的往西部送的這樣所以我們在第一時間就針對那個運費的補助那其實我們更重要就是因為道路的中斷你沒辦法買的時候遊客不會進去的時候所以我們當下就\n\n9\n00:03:39,765 --> 00:04:07,512\n我們就辦了一個活動叫重新出發就是在網購平台買500送100就是希望對然後現在這個部分您剛才講這個部分是遊客要進去那要拉遊客進去的部分我想不只是農業部我們也會配合交通部的觀光局這邊一起來啟動那這個啟動的時間點會依我想整個政府是一體的會依交通的順暢度能夠能夠盡快當然我們會盡快\n\n10\n00:04:09,292 --> 00:04:22,792\n好部長哈這個在上禮拜六哈上禮拜六鄭文燦副院長是這個跟很多的部會的這個單位都去了花蓮縣政府嗯\n\n11\n00:04:24,068 --> 00:04:24,088\n﹚鄭天財\n\n12\n00:04:46,693 --> 00:05:10,414\n農村水保署署長也沒有來了所以這個部分他說還在規劃怎麼細節這些趕快去把它這個完整我想我們會盡快的配合整個行政院的政經平台會同步的推動這個部分因為不僅僅是這樣這個是農產品這個部分另外就是你們也要去盤點\n\n13\n00:05:12,776 --> 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