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00:01:01,421\n這就是國際間的古巴飛彈危機所以最近美國在菲律賓北部部署了颱風武器站那北京政府也馬上公布了中共軍委會的副主席何偉東接見古巴的政治部主任盧霍的新聞甚至宣布會繼續支持古巴的軍隊建設雖然部署在菲律賓的颱風武器站射程不到北京就連美國現役的戰斧巡弋飛彈也沒有核彈頭的版本\n\n4\n00:01:09,645 --> 00:01:13,288\n但本席還是覺得若繼續在這樣的雙方的情勢發展下去是否有一種重演當年的古巴飛彈的危機的升溫過程那請問副部長你覺得這次的事件會如何影響東亞的政治局勢呢\n\n5\n00:01:25,353 --> 00:01:42,305\n報告委員有關於這樣的核彈危機你也可以曉得最近美中雙方在未來的AI系統如何去掌控這樣的核威脅的時候各國家都在降溫因為事實上來講俄烏的戰爭最近我們也看到俄羅斯為了這個戰爭\n\n6\n00:01:43,706 --> 00:02:01,256\n也在進行所謂的戰術性核武的這樣子的一個演訓的活動那我想這樣子的一個方式全球都在關切也都在降溫的情況之下如果要回到古巴那個時候的核彈危機的我想這種可能性大家都可能很理智的在控制這樣子的一個國際安全\n\n7\n00:02:03,063 --> 00:02:03,664\n中海軍艦是我國海軍現存唯一在海戰中集成中共軍艦的工訓艦\n\n8\n00:02:20,219 --> 00:02:40,765\n而且有一個歷史的意義然後我們的中海軍艦已經閒置在高雄奇景碼頭很長的一段時間了經過了解去年112年海軍文化部有先前傳出有意接手活化利用的臺南市政府在去年共事委先由中央負責修復工程並由文化部還有海軍共同編列7330萬元\n\n9\n00:02:43,366 --> 00:02:45,767\n凍結案等113年度中央政府總預算凍結案等113年度中央政府總預算凍結案等113年度中央政府總預算凍結案等113年度\n\n10\n00:03:12,856 --> 00:03:14,458\n2、處理院會交付113年度中央政府總預算凍結案等113年度中央政府總預算凍結案等113年度\n\n11\n00:03:35,319 --> 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