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00:00:02,511\n李文忠副主委委員好\n\n2\n00:00:12,871 --> 00:00:34,016\n副主委好,我想要請問一下,我們在救養給付的部分,4%,那是夠的嗎?確定什麼時候發放?因為可以申請救養給付的資格,可不可以先跟我們說明一下有哪一些?所以我跟委員報告,我們應該這樣說,第一,退休人員他有的制度,不是,限例人員,那基本是條4%\n\n3\n00:00:35,856 --> 00:00:51,987\n第二、退休人員有制度,今年比照現任人員4%第三、就養制度又有另外一個制度,今年比照退休人員4%（措置今年的1月1日開始\n\n4\n00:00:53,328 --> 00:01:11,180\n那可是這些除役的官兵啊﹐他們大多都是在服役期間﹐那因為作戰﹐或者是因公導致他們身心受到一些損害﹐對國家付出了自己的健康﹐那後續我們對他們的保障跟照顧﹐是不是應該要考慮得更加完善呢?\n\n5\n00:01:11,540 --> 00:01:28,189\n公務員報告您剛講的跟現在講的有一點出入所謂的我們退休就是服役嘛20年有退休另外國家為了照顧大陸來台現在大概4萬多人然後呢後來又擴大就是滿61歲\n\n6\n00:01:30,030 --> 00:01:47,635\n沒有領業退奉的退休的榮民領業退奉你剛提到的是另外一個概念就是他因公戰場這是不一樣的所以我問你的是第二件事情就是說在因公的部分像你看我這邊powerpoint有寫依據\n\n7\n00:01:50,717 --> 00:02:04,649\n這個國軍除役官兵救援安置辦法有關於它﹐是因為作戰的關係除役的部分﹐那我們現在提供給他們的相關的﹐後續的福利﹐保障﹐或者是協助﹐大概有哪一些?\n\n8\n00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:10,457\n有關因公,如果說因公智商殘,那經過檢定他並不受到61歲的限制,那經檢定完之後他是符合的話,他就是符合我們救養農民,同時他也具備農民的身份。\n\n9\n00:02:26,015 --> 00:02:50,377\n我另外能不能跟委員簡單講我講兩個很小的事情以前在因公或是因性隱命隱命那一天他不是榮民那我們主委我們在去年跟國防部合作我們現在是我們把他當作是榮民所以他的遺孀他的子女一樣受到照顧比如說在半年前那麼因公受傷的\n\n10\n00:02:51,998 --> 00:03:16,187\n那他們是沒有水電半價我再辦人請幫助他們我們全部跟他們滿足水電半價這個人很少只有兩百八十幾位我很支持我要講是其實我們很多真的但像這種即使只有兩百八十幾人我理解我也很支持你們做這樣子的服務那當然我們今天的問題是救養給付嗎剛剛我講分成兩個不同的部分\n\n11\n00:03:16,747 --> 00:03:37,805\n但是呢我們看到從2017年到2024年像以基本工資來說每年都在漲然後呢比方說像我們基本工資的月薪漲了30%那我們不要看月薪因為他們也不是屬於薪水可是我們看到消費者物價指數CPI上漲了10%那我們的就養給付調整從2017年調漲是9%\n\n12\n00:03:43,450 --> 00:03:55,062\n那副主委您怎麼看?您覺得現在目前的這個調整是合理的嗎?還是未來能夠更多?還是在什麼時間點上面我們有考慮讓它更多?\n\n13\n00:03:56,274 --> 00:04:26,109\nOK我不是要比較在前陣子的時候只調一次現正我們調了三次這是第一句話第二句話我也贊成像今年物價只是上漲不止4%那我們調4%已經史上最高但是呢我們仍然向行政反映我們希望調更高希望調更高希望調更高這件事情我會全力的來支持因為我覺得我們的榮民朋友他們為國付出了這麼多這是他們值得的\n\n14\n00:04:26,589 --> 00:04:48,114\n尤其是現在通貨膨脹．電費又上漲．對他們來說也是一筆不小的開銷所以跟委員報告是不是關於退休金工教．跟剛講救養榮民的部分．因為這裡面有一些制度的規定．大宴的委員可以協助．是不是可以做一些．好啦好啦我們會後也能夠再繼續討論那今年預計是在5月1號發放嗎\n\n15\n00:04:52,535 --> 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