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00:02:36,218\n故宮應該早日放下法統的任務放下中華文化本位的優越感要思考怎麼樣成為臺灣人的故宮所以院長你是否這個認同這個野島剛的建議就是說讓故宮放下這個法統的任務並且成為臺灣人的故宮又這麼問好了啦院長你認為故宮本土化了嗎還是說故宮本土化的意義跟價值何在院長\n\n8\n00:02:54,471 --> 00:03:16,992\n第一個跟委員報告我認同葉道剛的觀點因為外面的觀點的話當然是可以給我們參考可是要放下華同畫下中華文化本位的優越感就像故宮當時成立的目的跟委員講的就是一個政治下的產物所以這個糾葛跟羈絆的話基本上來講的話是很難完全排除的\n\n9\n00:03:19,094 --> 00:03:19,934\n應該這樣做,但是現在還在糾纏之中\n\n10\n00:03:35,182 --> 00:03:53,114\n故宮百年的歲月中有70多年在台灣度過那理論上故宮早該跟這塊土地上生根而且發展出在地的連結那可是無論是組織改造也好又或者是故宮修復再利用的計畫都有人覺得在去中國化那請問院長你認為什麼叫做去中國化\n\n11\n00:04:00,299 --> 00:04:15,656\n故宮的文物屬於中國嗎?那如果故宮的文物本來就不屬於中國就如同您書面報告所主張的嘛它是人類所共享的歷史文明瑰寶那到底有什麼去中國化的空間可言?院長\n\n12\n00:04:17,685 --> 00:04:42,000\n有時候這樣講就是很簡單的簡化的兩個字他當然會限縮到一個理性對話或是改革的空間因為當然就是說我不願意講這兩個字因為故宮面臨其苦任何的作為的話都會套上兩個字所以這個對故宮的長遠的發展的話其實是不利的\n\n13\n00:04:43,106 --> 00:04:57,642\n那另外的話就是說所謂的故宮在地化故宮的話從1948、49年到了台灣在北溝1965年到外雙溪基本上來講我是南部的小孩子南部小孩子的願望就畢業典禮的時候可以參觀故宮\n\n14\n00:04:58,883 --> 00:04:59,043\n林宜瑾議員\n\n15\n00:05:32,985 --> 00:05:47,431\n高院長您講得對,就是說有很多來自中國的境外勢力跟他的同路人都紛紛的希望能夠透過故宮來進一步消除台灣跟中國之間國跟國的關係\n\n16\n00:05:50,672 --> 00:06:09,557\n就像最近去前一陣子去訪中的前總統馬英九他上個月到中國故宮的時候就說任何去中國化的行徑都不會成功因為中華文化遠遠流長以及生殖炎黃子孫的血脈當中\n\n17\n00:06:10,957 --> 00:06:22,203\n馬英九這種論述實際上就是在當中國政協委員的硬生蟲那上一次的詢答本席就有跟院長討論到中國召開兩會的時間有政協委員放話說要針對兩岸故宮的合作、交流、提案、建議他的論述是\n\n18\n00:06:32,368 --> 00:06:32,388\n這是...\n\n19\n00:06:47,952 --> 00:06:48,832\n中國政協會議員林宜瑾議員林宜瑾\n\n20\n00:07:10,017 --> 00:07:31,765\n政治工具的這個行為第二台灣故宮有沒有促進台灣人對中國產生認同感第三故宮文物是屬於全中國的還是屬於全人類的文化資產第四如果遇到中國單方面放話那並提出很多的理由來跟我們故宮做交流我國故宮要什麼樣實際行為來捍衛對等跟尊嚴\n\n21\n00:07:35,827 --> 00:07:35,847\n院長．\n\n22\n00:07:42,154 --> 00:08:04,809\n我簡單回答故宮是屬於全世界的文化遺產因為宋元明清那時候還沒有中華人民共和國那另外的話就是兩岸的交流要在一個法律基礎上對等然後可以友善的方式來進行如果以現在經濟造台的狀況的話其實是看不到那樣的交流的契機\n\n23\n00:08:06,050 --> 00:08:26,155\n當然就是說台灣故宮有沒有促進台灣人對中國產生認同感我覺得這是兩回事因為欣賞一個重要的人類文化資產跟對中國產生認同感這個是兩回事我不認為說台灣的小學生或是大學生中學生去參訪故宮就變成是說被統戰了這個不會\n\n24\n00:08:28,315 --> 00:08:28,515\n好院長\n\n25\n00:08:57,712 --> 00:09:20,337\n最後20秒您上任的時候有許一個願望就是說要讓故宮回歸博物館的專業那當然除了讓板橋林家私人文物繼續利用公共資源寄存這個以外當然你另外一項的政策跟前院長大湘進行的作為就是說在故宮改組這個議題\n\n26\n00:09:22,017 --> 00:09:44,944\n您跟吳院長的這個想法是不同的他是支持改立文化部那您是覺得改立文化部不是很好的選項剛剛有很多委員問你你也是這樣回答那我今天還是請院長負起責任的告訴大家你覺得故宮應該置身於哪個位階才能夠少一點建制而且可以回歸博物館的專業\n\n27\n00:09:46,669 --> 00:10:09,310\n以我們跟人事總署請我們研究的計畫故宮最適合的組織定位當然第一個維持現狀第二個改立文化部第三個用基金的經營第四個行政法人這是一個顯像但是以目前來講為什麼當初沒有講呢因為它還沒有臨近社會的共識那另外的話改立文化部的話因為組織顏額的關係然後故宮的組織顏額預算的話可能會降低\n\n28\n00:10:12,973 --> 00:10:37,652\n另外的話現在故宮同仁的話是他的研究員是比較學校教授副教授可是到了文化部以後他會降階所以這個部分的話牽涉到很多問題尤其是以現在來講的話故宮進行新故宮計畫還有改宣違規整個展品的定位重新盤整的時候如果以現在作為過季列的一個組織改造的話對目前的整個運作的情況是不利的\n\n29\n00:10:38,356 --> 00:10:38,476\n林宜瑾議員\n\n30\n00:11:08,376 --> 00:11:32,808\n我跟委員報告一下那另外一個選擇的話就是說如果以我的觀點來講的話現在的兩廳院如果當初維持是一個教育部教育部的首屬單位或是文化部的首屬單位現在的國家表演藝術中心絕對沒有現在的量能所以當然它是一個選項可是這個選項的話要有更多的社會共識跟討論好了解好院長謝謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n149\t6073\t我們請林宜瑾委員質詢好 謝謝 謝謝主席 有請院長院長好首先想要請教院長你是否聽過這樣的說法因為媒體他指稱你是被公認這個故宮歷來院長中最不政治的政務官這種說法你認同嗎\n29077\t54293\t我不太懂實際上最不政治的政務官我覺得這句話其實充滿矛盾因為我不認為那是對政務官正向的形容詞如果真的有政務官自認為能置身於政治之外那我想他就是根本搞不清楚自己的角色定位不適合擔任代表國家這樣的一個責任\n55434\t64382\t當然部分的論者有說台灣內部因為兩岸意識形態對立所以讓故宮難逃政治的角力但是本席認為其實這是一種把故宮純粹當作博物館看待的觀點在我國現行的政治體下其實這是經不起挑戰的謬論\n79215\t94290\t怎麼說故宮不是難逃政治的角力而是故宮根本不敢不用妄想要逃離政治的角力因為故宮現在的定位跟角色安排他根本就是政治的產物\n95131\t117687\t故宮作為博物館直接隸屬於行政院之下他的院長形成像您現在院長就是形同於內閣成員那要到立法院來備詢那所以這怎麼可能不政治啊好那長期以來從文化政治的面向我們探討故宮的問題那有一個日本資深的媒體人\n119888\t142649\t野島剛他去年10月底以故宮博物院外級的諮詢委員的身份來訪台有參加長達三天的這個會議他對故宮的經營有提出很多的建議那其實這不是第一次野島剛對故宮做出建言早在2016年他就有說過\n143690\t156218\t故宮應該早日放下法統的任務放下中華文化本位的優越感要思考怎麼樣成為臺灣人的故宮所以院長你是否這個認同這個野島剛的建議就是說讓故宮放下這個法統的任務並且成為臺灣人的故宮又這麼問好了啦 院長你認為故宮本土化了嗎還是說故宮本土化的意義跟價值何在 院長\n174471\t196992\t第一個跟委員報告我認同葉道剛的觀點因為外面的觀點的話當然是可以給我們參考可是要放下華同畫下中華文化本位的優越感就像故宮當時成立的目的跟委員講的就是一個政治下的產物所以這個糾葛跟羈絆的話基本上來講的話是很難完全排除的\n199094\t199934\t應該這樣做,但是現在還在糾纏之中\n215182\t233114\t故宮百年的歲月中有70多年在台灣度過那理論上故宮早該跟這塊土地上生根而且發展出在地的連結那可是無論是組織改造也好又或者是故宮修復再利用的計畫都有人覺得在去中國化那請問院長你認為什麼叫做去中國化\n240299\t255656\t故宮的文物屬於中國嗎?那如果故宮的文物本來就不屬於中國就如同您書面報告所主張的嘛它是人類所共享的歷史文明瑰寶那到底有什麼去中國化的空間可言?院長\n257685\t282000\t有時候這樣講就是很簡單的簡化的兩個字他當然會限縮到一個理性對話或是改革的空間因為當然就是說我不願意講這兩個字因為故宮面臨其苦任何的作為的話都會套上兩個字所以這個對故宮的長遠的發展的話其實是不利的\n283106\t297642\t那另外的話就是說所謂的故宮在地化故宮的話從1948、49年到了台灣在北溝1965年到外雙溪基本上來講我是南部的小孩子南部小孩子的願望就畢業典禮的時候可以參觀故宮\n298883\t299043\t林宜瑾議員\n332985\t347431\t高院長您講得對,就是說有很多來自中國的境外勢力跟他的同路人都紛紛的希望能夠透過故宮來進一步消除台灣跟中國之間國跟國的關係\n350672\t369557\t就像最近去 前一陣子去訪中的前總統馬英九他上個月到中國故宮的時候就說任何去中國化的行徑都不會成功因為中華文化遠遠流長以及生殖炎黃子孫的血脈當中\n370957\t382203\t馬英九這種論述實際上就是在當中國政協委員的硬生蟲那上一次的詢答本席就有跟院長討論到中國召開兩會的時間有政協委員放話說要針對兩岸故宮的合作、交流、提案、建議他的論述是\n392368\t392388\t這是...\n407952\t408832\t中國政協會議員林宜瑾議員林宜瑾\n430017\t451765\t政治工具的這個行為第二台灣故宮有沒有促進台灣人對中國產生認同感第三故宮文物是屬於全中國的還是屬於全人類的文化資產第四如果遇到中國單方面放話那並提出很多的理由來跟我們故宮做交流我國故宮要什麼樣實際行為來捍衛對等跟尊嚴\n455827\t455847\t院長．\n462154\t484809\t我簡單回答故宮是屬於全世界的文化遺產因為宋元明清那時候還沒有中華人民共和國那另外的話就是兩岸的交流要在一個法律基礎上對等然後可以友善的方式來進行如果以現在經濟造台的狀況的話其實是看不到那樣的交流的契機\n486050\t506155\t當然就是說台灣故宮有沒有促進台灣人對中國產生認同感我覺得這是兩回事因為欣賞一個重要的人類文化資產跟對中國產生認同感這個是兩回事我不認為說台灣的小學生或是大學生中學生去參訪故宮就變成是說被統戰了這個不會\n508315\t508515\t好 院長\n537712\t560337\t最後20秒您上任的時候有許一個願望就是說要讓故宮回歸博物館的專業那當然除了讓板橋林家私人文物繼續利用公共資源寄存這個以外當然你另外一項的政策跟前院長大湘進行的作為就是說在故宮改組這個議題\n562017\t584944\t您跟吳院長的這個想法是不同的他是支持改立文化部那您是覺得改立文化部不是很好的選項剛剛有很多委員問你你也是這樣回答那我今天還是請院長負起責任的告訴大家你覺得故宮應該置身於哪個位階才能夠少一點建制而且可以回歸博物館的專業\n586669\t609310\t以我們跟人事總署請我們研究的計畫故宮最適合的組織定位當然第一個維持現狀第二個改立文化部第三個用基金的經營第四個行政法人這是一個顯像但是以目前來講為什麼當初沒有講呢因為它還沒有臨近社會的共識那另外的話改立文化部的話因為組織顏額的關係然後故宮的組織顏額預算的話可能會降低\n612973\t637652\t另外的話現在故宮同仁的話是他的研究員是比較學校教授副教授可是到了文化部以後他會降階所以這個部分的話牽涉到很多問題尤其是以現在來講的話故宮進行新故宮計畫還有改宣違規整個展品的定位重新盤整的時候如果以現在作為過季列的一個組織改造的話對目前的整個運作的情況是不利的\n638356\t638476\t林宜瑾議員\n668376\t692808\t我跟委員報告一下那另外一個選擇的話就是說如果以我的觀點來講的話現在的兩廳院如果當初維持是一個教育部教育部的首屬單位或是文化部的首屬單位現在的國家表演藝術中心絕對沒有現在的量能所以當然它是一個選項可是這個選項的話要有更多的社會共識跟討論好 了解好 院長謝謝謝主席\n","txt":"我們請林宜瑾委員質詢好 謝謝 謝謝主席 有請院長院長好首先想要請教院長你是否聽過這樣的說法因為媒體他指稱你是被公認這個故宮歷來院長中最不政治的政務官這種說法你認同嗎\n我不太懂實際上最不政治的政務官我覺得這句話其實充滿矛盾因為我不認為那是對政務官正向的形容詞如果真的有政務官自認為能置身於政治之外那我想他就是根本搞不清楚自己的角色定位不適合擔任代表國家這樣的一個責任\n當然部分的論者有說台灣內部因為兩岸意識形態對立所以讓故宮難逃政治的角力但是本席認為其實這是一種把故宮純粹當作博物館看待的觀點在我國現行的政治體下其實這是經不起挑戰的謬論\n怎麼說故宮不是難逃政治的角力而是故宮根本不敢不用妄想要逃離政治的角力因為故宮現在的定位跟角色安排他根本就是政治的產物\n故宮作為博物館直接隸屬於行政院之下他的院長形成像您現在院長就是形同於內閣成員那要到立法院來備詢那所以這怎麼可能不政治啊好那長期以來從文化政治的面向我們探討故宮的問題那有一個日本資深的媒體人\n野島剛他去年10月底以故宮博物院外級的諮詢委員的身份來訪台有參加長達三天的這個會議他對故宮的經營有提出很多的建議那其實這不是第一次野島剛對故宮做出建言早在2016年他就有說過\n故宮應該早日放下法統的任務放下中華文化本位的優越感要思考怎麼樣成為臺灣人的故宮所以院長你是否這個認同這個野島剛的建議就是說讓故宮放下這個法統的任務並且成為臺灣人的故宮又這麼問好了啦 院長你認為故宮本土化了嗎還是說故宮本土化的意義跟價值何在 院長\n第一個跟委員報告我認同葉道剛的觀點因為外面的觀點的話當然是可以給我們參考可是要放下華同畫下中華文化本位的優越感就像故宮當時成立的目的跟委員講的就是一個政治下的產物所以這個糾葛跟羈絆的話基本上來講的話是很難完全排除的\n應該這樣做,但是現在還在糾纏之中\n故宮百年的歲月中有70多年在台灣度過那理論上故宮早該跟這塊土地上生根而且發展出在地的連結那可是無論是組織改造也好又或者是故宮修復再利用的計畫都有人覺得在去中國化那請問院長你認為什麼叫做去中國化\n故宮的文物屬於中國嗎?那如果故宮的文物本來就不屬於中國就如同您書面報告所主張的嘛它是人類所共享的歷史文明瑰寶那到底有什麼去中國化的空間可言?院長\n有時候這樣講就是很簡單的簡化的兩個字他當然會限縮到一個理性對話或是改革的空間因為當然就是說我不願意講這兩個字因為故宮面臨其苦任何的作為的話都會套上兩個字所以這個對故宮的長遠的發展的話其實是不利的\n那另外的話就是說所謂的故宮在地化故宮的話從1948、49年到了台灣在北溝1965年到外雙溪基本上來講我是南部的小孩子南部小孩子的願望就畢業典禮的時候可以參觀故宮\n林宜瑾議員\n高院長您講得對,就是說有很多來自中國的境外勢力跟他的同路人都紛紛的希望能夠透過故宮來進一步消除台灣跟中國之間國跟國的關係\n就像最近去 前一陣子去訪中的前總統馬英九他上個月到中國故宮的時候就說任何去中國化的行徑都不會成功因為中華文化遠遠流長以及生殖炎黃子孫的血脈當中\n馬英九這種論述實際上就是在當中國政協委員的硬生蟲那上一次的詢答本席就有跟院長討論到中國召開兩會的時間有政協委員放話說要針對兩岸故宮的合作、交流、提案、建議他的論述是\n這是...\n中國政協會議員林宜瑾議員林宜瑾\n政治工具的這個行為第二台灣故宮有沒有促進台灣人對中國產生認同感第三故宮文物是屬於全中國的還是屬於全人類的文化資產第四如果遇到中國單方面放話那並提出很多的理由來跟我們故宮做交流我國故宮要什麼樣實際行為來捍衛對等跟尊嚴\n院長．\n我簡單回答故宮是屬於全世界的文化遺產因為宋元明清那時候還沒有中華人民共和國那另外的話就是兩岸的交流要在一個法律基礎上對等然後可以友善的方式來進行如果以現在經濟造台的狀況的話其實是看不到那樣的交流的契機\n當然就是說台灣故宮有沒有促進台灣人對中國產生認同感我覺得這是兩回事因為欣賞一個重要的人類文化資產跟對中國產生認同感這個是兩回事我不認為說台灣的小學生或是大學生中學生去參訪故宮就變成是說被統戰了這個不會\n好 院長\n最後20秒您上任的時候有許一個願望就是說要讓故宮回歸博物館的專業那當然除了讓板橋林家私人文物繼續利用公共資源寄存這個以外當然你另外一項的政策跟前院長大湘進行的作為就是說在故宮改組這個議題\n您跟吳院長的這個想法是不同的他是支持改立文化部那您是覺得改立文化部不是很好的選項剛剛有很多委員問你你也是這樣回答那我今天還是請院長負起責任的告訴大家你覺得故宮應該置身於哪個位階才能夠少一點建制而且可以回歸博物館的專業\n以我們跟人事總署請我們研究的計畫故宮最適合的組織定位當然第一個維持現狀第二個改立文化部第三個用基金的經營第四個行政法人這是一個顯像但是以目前來講為什麼當初沒有講呢因為它還沒有臨近社會的共識那另外的話改立文化部的話因為組織顏額的關係然後故宮的組織顏額預算的話可能會降低\n另外的話現在故宮同仁的話是他的研究員是比較學校教授副教授可是到了文化部以後他會降階所以這個部分的話牽涉到很多問題尤其是以現在來講的話故宮進行新故宮計畫還有改宣違規整個展品的定位重新盤整的時候如果以現在作為過季列的一個組織改造的話對目前的整個運作的情況是不利的\n林宜瑾議員\n我跟委員報告一下那另外一個選擇的話就是說如果以我的觀點來講的話現在的兩廳院如果當初維持是一個教育部教育部的首屬單位或是文化部的首屬單位現在的國家表演藝術中心絕對沒有現在的量能所以當然它是一個選項可是這個選項的話要有更多的社會共識跟討論好 了解好 院長謝謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.149 --> 00:06.073\n我們請林宜瑾委員質詢好謝謝謝謝主席有請院長院長好首先想要請教院長你是否聽過這樣的說法因為媒體他指稱你是被公認這個故宮歷來院長中最不政治的政務官這種說法你認同嗎\n\n00:29.077 --> 00:54.293\n我不太懂實際上最不政治的政務官我覺得這句話其實充滿矛盾因為我不認為那是對政務官正向的形容詞如果真的有政務官自認為能置身於政治之外那我想他就是根本搞不清楚自己的角色定位不適合擔任代表國家這樣的一個責任\n\n00:55.434 --> 01:04.382\n當然部分的論者有說台灣內部因為兩岸意識形態對立所以讓故宮難逃政治的角力但是本席認為其實這是一種把故宮純粹當作博物館看待的觀點在我國現行的政治體下其實這是經不起挑戰的謬論\n\n01:19.215 --> 01:34.290\n怎麼說故宮不是難逃政治的角力而是故宮根本不敢不用妄想要逃離政治的角力因為故宮現在的定位跟角色安排他根本就是政治的產物\n\n01:35.131 --> 01:57.687\n故宮作為博物館直接隸屬於行政院之下他的院長形成像您現在院長就是形同於內閣成員那要到立法院來備詢那所以這怎麼可能不政治啊好那長期以來從文化政治的面向我們探討故宮的問題那有一個日本資深的媒體人\n\n01:59.888 --> 02:22.649\n野島剛他去年10月底以故宮博物院外級的諮詢委員的身份來訪台有參加長達三天的這個會議他對故宮的經營有提出很多的建議那其實這不是第一次野島剛對故宮做出建言早在2016年他就有說過\n\n02:23.690 --> 02:36.218\n故宮應該早日放下法統的任務放下中華文化本位的優越感要思考怎麼樣成為臺灣人的故宮所以院長你是否這個認同這個野島剛的建議就是說讓故宮放下這個法統的任務並且成為臺灣人的故宮又這麼問好了啦院長你認為故宮本土化了嗎還是說故宮本土化的意義跟價值何在院長\n\n02:54.471 --> 03:16.992\n第一個跟委員報告我認同葉道剛的觀點因為外面的觀點的話當然是可以給我們參考可是要放下華同畫下中華文化本位的優越感就像故宮當時成立的目的跟委員講的就是一個政治下的產物所以這個糾葛跟羈絆的話基本上來講的話是很難完全排除的\n\n03:19.094 --> 03:19.934\n應該這樣做,但是現在還在糾纏之中\n\n03:35.182 --> 03:53.114\n故宮百年的歲月中有70多年在台灣度過那理論上故宮早該跟這塊土地上生根而且發展出在地的連結那可是無論是組織改造也好又或者是故宮修復再利用的計畫都有人覺得在去中國化那請問院長你認為什麼叫做去中國化\n\n04:00.299 --> 04:15.656\n故宮的文物屬於中國嗎?那如果故宮的文物本來就不屬於中國就如同您書面報告所主張的嘛它是人類所共享的歷史文明瑰寶那到底有什麼去中國化的空間可言?院長\n\n04:17.685 --> 04:42.000\n有時候這樣講就是很簡單的簡化的兩個字他當然會限縮到一個理性對話或是改革的空間因為當然就是說我不願意講這兩個字因為故宮面臨其苦任何的作為的話都會套上兩個字所以這個對故宮的長遠的發展的話其實是不利的\n\n04:43.106 --> 04:57.642\n那另外的話就是說所謂的故宮在地化故宮的話從1948、49年到了台灣在北溝1965年到外雙溪基本上來講我是南部的小孩子南部小孩子的願望就畢業典禮的時候可以參觀故宮\n\n04:58.883 --> 04:59.043\n林宜瑾議員\n\n05:32.985 --> 05:47.431\n高院長您講得對,就是說有很多來自中國的境外勢力跟他的同路人都紛紛的希望能夠透過故宮來進一步消除台灣跟中國之間國跟國的關係\n\n05:50.672 --> 06:09.557\n就像最近去前一陣子去訪中的前總統馬英九他上個月到中國故宮的時候就說任何去中國化的行徑都不會成功因為中華文化遠遠流長以及生殖炎黃子孫的血脈當中\n\n06:10.957 --> 06:22.203\n馬英九這種論述實際上就是在當中國政協委員的硬生蟲那上一次的詢答本席就有跟院長討論到中國召開兩會的時間有政協委員放話說要針對兩岸故宮的合作、交流、提案、建議他的論述是\n\n06:32.368 --> 06:32.388\n這是...\n\n06:47.952 --> 06:48.832\n中國政協會議員林宜瑾議員林宜瑾\n\n07:10.017 --> 07:31.765\n政治工具的這個行為第二台灣故宮有沒有促進台灣人對中國產生認同感第三故宮文物是屬於全中國的還是屬於全人類的文化資產第四如果遇到中國單方面放話那並提出很多的理由來跟我們故宮做交流我國故宮要什麼樣實際行為來捍衛對等跟尊嚴\n\n07:35.827 --> 07:35.847\n院長．\n\n07:42.154 --> 08:04.809\n我簡單回答故宮是屬於全世界的文化遺產因為宋元明清那時候還沒有中華人民共和國那另外的話就是兩岸的交流要在一個法律基礎上對等然後可以友善的方式來進行如果以現在經濟造台的狀況的話其實是看不到那樣的交流的契機\n\n08:06.050 --> 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