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人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；六、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六\n條條文修正草案」案；七、審查委員呂玉玲等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補\n助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；八、審查委員吳思瑤等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支\n給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；九、審查委員陳超明等18人擬具「地\n方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例增訂第七條之一條文草案」案；十、審查委員\n李柏毅等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；十一、審查委員黃健豪等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例增\n訂第七條之一條文草案」案；十二、審查委員徐巧芯等28人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里\n長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十三、審查委員莊瑞雄等18人擬具「地方民意\n代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十四、審查委員高金素梅\n等29人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；十\n五、審查委員林思銘等26人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條\n文修正草案」案；十六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助\n費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十七、審查委員盧縣一等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支\n給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條、第七條及第九條條文修正草案」案；十八、審查委員蔡\n易餘等 19 人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；十九、審查委員范雲等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六\n條條文修正草案」案；二十、審查委員許宇甄等16人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務\n補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；二十一、審查委員黃秀芳等19人擬具「地方民意代表\n費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十二、審查委員鍾佳濱等27\n人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十\n三、審查委員陳瑩等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第五條、第\n六條及第七條條文修正草案」案；二十四、審查委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等 17 人擬具\n「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十五、審查\n委員陳素月等21人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草\n案」案；二十六、審查委員徐欣瑩等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助\n條例第三條及第六條條文修正草案」案；二十七、審查委員洪申翰等16人擬具「地方民意代表費\n用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十八、審查委員李彥秀等20人\n擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十九、\n審查委員吳琪銘等18人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第七條條文修\n正草案」案；三十、審查委員黃建賓等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補\n助條例第六條及第七條條文修正草案」案；三十一、審查委員劉建國等16人擬具「地方民意代表\n費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；三十二、審查委員高金素梅等\n22人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第八條條文修正草案」案；三十\n三、審查委員鄭正鈐等18人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條\n文修正草案」案；三十四、審查委員陳素月等22人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補\n助費補助條例第五條附表修正草案」案；三十五、審查委員陳培瑜等21人擬具「地方民意代表費\n用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；三十六、審查委員王美惠等21人\n擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；三十七、\n審查委員王育敏等16人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修\n正草案」案","agenda_id":"1134201_00002"}},"transcript":{"id":"152333","pyannote":{"name":"ronny","tool":"pyannote","data":{"url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152333","tool":"pyannote","id":"152333-pyannote"},"job_id":"pyFZP2bxLKr1H3Z4","queued_at":"2024-05-31 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00:02:25,677\n我想這個我剛剛特別講這個議題已經很早就談談了好幾年在我所了解已經談過超過十幾年了那也不是因為到這個蔡總統要卸任才去談這個問題其實按照這個在去年的時候\n\n7\n00:02:26,698 --> 00:02:30,759\n在111年的時候我們市會是從4萬5千跳到5萬跳到5千因為時間的關係我想我只是提出來說過去這麼久了大家都在提出問題可是卻其實過去有8年時間蔡政府是可以做這件事情可是卻在這個時候才提\n\n8\n00:02:45,683 --> 00:03:13,694\n而且這件事情在行政院還沒有通過修法版本之前我們內政部長林佑昌就率先公布那像這個部分的話為什麼一個上面有經過行政院通過的修正法案內政部不像國土計劃法這麼謹慎小心一定要等到這個行政院協調通過之後才能夠這個宣布那這次就這麼快在行政院都還沒有宣布之前就已經率先公布了\n\n9\n00:03:14,901 --> 00:03:26,388\n那個是這個村里長聯會來這個有來找過部長那部長那一天也有過去那他們反映了部長這個先跟他做初步的這個回應那這個過程當中\n\n10\n00:03:28,024 --> 00:03:55,279\n立委剛剛特別提到這個過程當中會因為涉及到這個地方財政所以一直跟地方在做溝通那所以時間會比較這個剛剛你也提到地方財政的問題其實地方財政相對的艱困所以這邊本席也要要求這個部分是不是應該要由中央來買單否則的話到時候地方財政根本沒辦法支付這樣子的就變成說是這個中央給這個通過這樣偵測的時候可是地方卻沒有辦法來處理\n\n11\n00:03:57,451 --> 00:04:23,950\n委員是這樣寫的按照地制法或者是財劃法規定這一個財源是必須要有地方來走錯那我們也有一個機制是這個財政這個收支短差的部分也有一個補助的一個機制這個在財政部或者組總那邊都會有這個機制那我們認為說這個制度歸制度那不能因為說這個特別這個案子因為這個是草委的共識\n\n12\n00:04:24,963 --> 00:04:25,903\n春節慰問金要不要報稅?\n\n13\n00:04:53,502 --> 00:05:14,016\n我們認為這個因為這個村里長這一部分這個都不是公務人員他是無極職的那這邊既然是無極職的他是事務補助費那就不是他的個人所得我們是認為說不應該去瞌睡但是這個要看看這個那請問一下複稅署這個針對村里長的這個春節溫暖金是不是需要繳稅\n\n14\n00:05:20,511 --> 00:05:36,381\n委員,針對如果村里長他本身現行上的事務補助費的部分的話那我們本身之前在75年的時候有發過相關解釋就是說這些免納所得稅嘛對不對對所以這個部分的話我覺得應該負稅署應該要根據這個發函給這個這個財政部啊說明這個春節應該是要比照這個\n\n15\n00:05:46,370 --> 00:06:04,144\n村里長處理村里事務跟推行政令只有免納所得稅是那如果說這個春節問津的部分的話那至於他的性質如何可能我們跟內政部再來討論一下好那就麻煩這個內政部這邊然後另外還有一個問題要請教就是我們這幾年的CPI已經連續3年都增加\n\n16\n00:06:05,064 --> 00:06:34,304\n民眾已經苦藏了三年的高物價之苦基本工資一直調漲可是議員的公費助理補助費還有村里長的相關費用卻一直都沒有調整尤其是像這一次也是經過那麼多年了在蔡政府任期8年的時候做了一個這樣的調整未來是不是能夠把他們的事務費跟助理的薪資能不能隨著公務員的調薪一起來調整\n\n17\n00:06:36,405 --> 00:06:36,565\n主席\n\n18\n00:06:50,896 --> 00:06:52,357\n現在村里長的事務補助費就已經涵蓋的為民服務的性質了\n\n19\n00:07:18,128 --> 00:07:33,681\n事務補助費一般我們大概講的就是一些啊比如說什麼那些什麼水電支出啊文具啦相關的應該跟衛民服務不一樣吧衛民服務也是一樣啊包括你平常的行政支出啦你知道有人還拜託找小貓然後這個還拜託清水工這個都應該算是衛民服務吧\n\n20\n00:07:38,845 --> 00:07:42,746\n對於公共的支出或者是他的服務的支出我想這個部分我覺得對於不管是民貸其實都有\n\n21\n00:07:55,590 --> 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