{"id":152338,"url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152338","video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9fa9bc2102b9cf71c1bf1fc102627ca7827cef00f012e52e36499d1b681a2ac734d5112c71ed9d465ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"吳琪銘","委員發言時間":"11:27:59 - 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人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；六、審查委員羅美玲等18人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六\n條條文修正草案」案；七、審查委員呂玉玲等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補\n助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；八、審查委員吳思瑤等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支\n給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；九、審查委員陳超明等18人擬具「地\n方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例增訂第七條之一條文草案」案；十、審查委員\n李柏毅等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；十一、審查委員黃健豪等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例增\n訂第七條之一條文草案」案；十二、審查委員徐巧芯等28人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里\n長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十三、審查委員莊瑞雄等18人擬具「地方民意\n代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十四、審查委員高金素梅\n等29人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；十\n五、審查委員林思銘等26人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條\n文修正草案」案；十六、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助\n費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；十七、審查委員盧縣一等19人擬具「地方民意代表費用支\n給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條、第七條及第九條條文修正草案」案；十八、審查委員蔡\n易餘等 19 人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」\n案；十九、審查委員范雲等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六\n條條文修正草案」案；二十、審查委員許宇甄等16人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務\n補助費補助條例第七條條文修正草案」案；二十一、審查委員黃秀芳等19人擬具「地方民意代表\n費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十二、審查委員鍾佳濱等27\n人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第六條條文修正草案」案；二十\n三、審查委員陳瑩等17人擬具「地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費補助條例第五條、第\n六條及第七條條文修正草案」案；二十四、審查委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等 17 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00:01:12,624\n所以有很多我們的災難很多我們的很多不管說是在水域也好還是山難也好我們的很多里長他們都是站在一旁因為怎麼樣你說像疫情期間大家都是已經大家有很大的緊張但是里長他沒辦法去選嘛里長他也是要在我們里內他來出頭來不管說在消毒不管說是打疫苗所以他們都有他們辛苦的一面\n\n5\n00:01:36,358 --> 00:01:53,696\n所以說今天可以擺在這我也說很感謝因為我擔任召委我就說這個因為他的春節慰問金很多里長抱怨很多民意代表包括市民代表他們都有春節慰問金只有里長沒有\n\n6\n00:01:54,797 --> 00:02:08,967\n所以說在我們這次可以說我們有行政院的宴盤以及我們本席所提出的我們的法案內的我們的春節慰問金1.5個月這點我也感謝說我們的內政部以及我們行政院的宴盤都有\n\n7\n00:02:18,673 --> 00:02:23,414\n謝謝委員對基層的關心我想我也來自基層我也知道這個村里長的確真的很辛苦\n\n8\n00:02:48,704 --> 00:02:48,724\n吳琪\n\n9\n00:03:05,247 --> 00:03:05,267\n﹚廣告\n\n10\n00:03:31,178 --> 00:03:37,780\n助理的部分,縣議員之下縣市議員的這個助理會調整的部分那我們都很清楚就是說\n\n11\n00:03:38,587 --> 00:04:06,167\n這一個助理是由議員來雇用的但是如果不足的那變成議員那自己掏腰包去雇用那以24年前這樣的一個額度現在已經經過24年其實已經要雇用真正雇用到人才或用人彈性已經幾乎是比較低了所以我們也看到這種現象我們這一次也把他納到我們整個的修法裡面把那個額度提高那另外也給他加班費支錢費等等這些來見錢\n\n12\n00:04:07,442 --> 00:04:11,822\n這一個聘僱的制度跟我們用人的彈性以上做補充報告\n\n13\n00:04:12,363 --> 00:04:39,757\n好的謝謝謝謝次長的回答其實那本席也是可以接受因為我們說地方過去你說很多議員他的助理會過去有很多助理會發生問題但是實際上大部分的議員他的助理絕對都是不夠因為他本身議員他都分商喜慶包括說最基本的你送一個費\n\n14\n00:04:41,798 --> 00:04:41,818\n吳琪銘\n\n15\n00:04:59,927 --> 00:05:03,848\n今天可以大大提升,這點是我們所堅定的所以說在未來,我們朝這個方向今天可以說我們也覺得說國民黨及民進黨及我們的民眾黨中共提出的版本有40個案,雖然他們挑三個案,但是還有37個案\n\n16\n00:05:25,674 --> 00:05:51,033\n37案包括過去我們在上個禮拜五在議會要交付二度但是原住民的也沒有納入所以我們今天在我們內政我們是整個程序上我們都一定要一併的討論大家取得一個共識我們才可以說來敢上出議會所以在這裡本席也再次感謝我們內政部還有我們所屬的所有的同仁大家都辛苦\n\n17\n00:05:51,833 --> 00:05:56,454\n市長,本席最關心的是我們的國土計劃法,因為目前本席的資料,現在只有金門、連江、花蓮提交,其他的都還沒提交,但是這個國土計劃法是明年的4月就要上路了,所以說在這個部分,我請市長你來回答這個。\n\n18\n00:06:19,898 --> 00:06:47,743\n委員我這樣跟您報告因為到目前為止有我這邊資料是三個縣市有送過來那因為我們給他們的時間是到6月底之前要送過來那我想這段時間陸陸續續有一些縣市有一些疑慮部分我們也都一直在溝通一直在溝通當中那當然外面也有聲音就講說這個是不是時間是不是可以再延那目前我跟委員報告目前我們沒有這個正式上我們沒有說要延因為\n\n19\n00:06:48,303 --> 00:07:16,941\n我們認為之前整個國土計畫法的說明吶﹖內涵幾乎都已經講過好久了那民眾的疑慮我們可以透過不斷的溝通說明去跟他們讓他們去了解那有一些他們去有疑慮的事實上那些問題不是不是問題只是不太理解的關係那我們希望用民眾的語言來跟民眾溝通讓他們充分去了解比較好我們認為說好國土計畫是一個這個這個比以前的區域計畫更嚴格還是怎麼樣\n\n20\n00:07:17,529 --> 00:07:25,145\n我想這是溝通的問題我們會加強去溝通那縣市政府我們也希望他在6月底之前能夠送過來審查的時候有什麼意見我們再來去談就好\n\n21\n00:07:26,454 --> 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