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00:01:30,560\n是的是真的嘛所以也不是說整篇的內容都是不實的嘛\n\n6\n00:01:31,226 --> 00:02:00,421\n那我有看到你們在一個即時新聞澄清官區裡面有寫到一些內容那因為時間的關係我們不一一贅述我們從裡面來討論那外交部在4月24號的時候說到我們在民國111年跟捷克開始協商一項5年的計劃要在捷克成立先進晶片設計中心討論也進入到\n\n7\n00:02:01,161 --> 00:02:04,464\n這個金額部分我們並沒有公開不過基本上我們跟他們之間沒有報導所稱的預算上的問題\n\n8\n00:02:26,837 --> 00:02:37,272\n那在報道裏面寫到2023年11月台灣行政院公佈了金創台灣法案的計劃有這件事吧?\n\n9\n00:02:38,189 --> 00:03:05,672\n這是國科會的業務國科會的業務嘛但是我們跟捷克來說還是跟外交部有關嘛很多的談判上面來說的話國科會出的錢嘛那上面呢裡面計劃章中寫到10年內要投資3000億的台幣運用台灣半導體的優勢結合人工AI技術的創新布局未來的產業科技喔\n\n10\n00:03:07,832 --> 00:03:21,857\n國科會的計畫,他們準備在捷克舉辦精創海外基地還要成立半導體的研究中心這個報導也提到說本來今年2月就要推動撥款\n\n11\n00:03:23,197 --> 00:03:41,099\n但是國科會主委表示．在捷克大學的項目不是跟捷克合作．也不勉強簽署臺捷科技的合作協議．想請問這件事情外交部怎麼看．有沒有接到捷克方面對於此事的反應．\n\n12\n00:03:42,386 --> 00:04:04,527\n捷克曾經跟我們表達說這個計畫跟委員剛剛所講的計畫兩者是如何區別那我們也跟什麼區別我們就是說這是兩個計畫您剛剛講的第一個是外交部的計畫第二個是國客會的計畫第一個計畫是捷克與台灣晶片產業項目衝突解析的計畫是這樣嗎\n\n13\n00:04:06,534 --> 00:04:27,237\n你把兩個計畫的名稱說清楚第一個計畫是先進晶片中心的計畫這個是外交部的計畫第二個計畫是國科會以國內的這個以晶片為基礎的創新為中心延伸到國外的計畫這是兩個不同的計畫那外交部的計畫總共預計投入多少的預算跟資源\n\n14\n00:04:28,157 --> 00:04:48,752\n剛剛有跟委員報告就是說這個計劃我的印象是現在沒有對外公布實際上的金額那國科會的有嘛那國科會公布的叫做10年內投資3000億台幣那是不是我們在投入的經費上面跟我們的這個有落差我們看一下下一張同影片好不好來\n\n15\n00:04:50,646 --> 00:05:18,177\n可以看到,國科會,這是國科會的他有提到的是,包含是29億2000萬等等的台灣金創方案,300億的預算,一年至少要花300億300億減掉我們今年編的是94.9億,等於是205億所以有很大的落差,這是國科會的部分那剛剛您講了外交部的部分,不能說我就不問了\n\n16\n00:05:19,838 --> 00:05:42,823\n但是立法院在國科會主管的報告裡面所提到的我們剛剛的預算跟當時跟捷克承諾的部分有很大的落差我當時問的問題是捷克有沒有向我方反映包含國科會跟外交部的計劃在預算跟撥款上面跟先前講的不一樣\n\n17\n00:05:43,763 --> 00:05:45,225\n徐巧芯徐巧芯徐巧芯\n\n18\n00:06:00,347 --> 00:06:00,908\n我們要求建立一個監督的委員會\n\n19\n00:06:18,148 --> 00:06:36,277\n這幾天才談定那跟蕭美琴選副總統到捷克參訪有任何的關聯嗎?沒有任何關聯他們也沒有談到那你們是在什麼時候開始洽談這個方案的呢?應該是在去年中開始但是因為這個案子是我國第一次對外推動半導體的相關的合作\n\n20\n00:06:36,937 --> 00:06:59,783\n所以在這個半導體的相關合作上面在FinancialTimes上面就說在涉及具體的資金撥付上台灣的調子非常的慢而且台灣曾經許諾投入不少於3300萬美金用於台捷民主夥伴供應鏈韌性計劃你有聽過這個計劃嗎?\n\n21\n00:07:04,594 --> 00:07:22,045\n有當然剛剛委員所提到的先進晶片設計中心就是其中一個部分那兩項重點的撥款項目是1350萬美元跟600萬美元而捷克方面至今沒有收到該項目的任何一筆經費\n\n22\n00:07:23,466 --> 00:07:38,623\n請問外交部知道這件事情嗎?或者這是一個錯誤的報導嗎?這是錯誤資訊,您剛提到有一個600萬的預算我沒有辦法確認它的金額目前不過有這件事,但是我們已經撥款了你已經撥款600萬的美元給捷克\n\n23\n00:07:41,886 --> 00:07:43,846\n那請問ACDRC本來是臺灣跟捷克要共同舉辦的開幕儀式\n\n24\n00:08:11,832 --> 00:08:13,815\n請問這件事情還有要繼續辦嗎?這件事情還會繼續辦但是因為我們約要先簽所以會在3月中的時候辦嗎?\n\n25\n00:08:23,254 --> 00:08:26,516\n那最後我要講一下結論就是在這個financialtimes裡面認為說撥款的速度太慢讓捷克方面有一點不滿\n\n26\n00:08:49,013 --> 00:09:06,740\n最後給大家看一張照片這是捷克半導體的投資商機說明會我們看到二月份的時候崇越科技跟投資捷克的代表捷克經濟駐文化辦事處簽署合作備忘錄MOU就這麼剛好\n\n27\n00:09:08,260 --> 00:09:33,589\n崇越科技的董事長郭志輝也就是現在的準經濟部長我不曉得是暗示了他當時就被內定為經濟部長還是接下了經濟部長之後有實質的影響力讓崇越科技有角色變成郭志輝的關係從經濟部跟民間部門有資源上面的互動\n\n28\n00:09:36,643 --> 00:09:50,152\n這個研討會是捷克代表處舉辦的,並不是我方舉辦的對啊,不是啊,但是我要問你的是,說我們裡面有這個準經濟部長這件事情,你們的看法跟態度是什麼嗎?捷克代表處邀請新東向協會舉辦的,那細節我們並不清楚\n\n29\n00:09:52,534 --> 00:10:08,821\n未來在台灣跟半導體的投資方面因為台灣跟捷克還是會透過外交部嘛很多事情的進行那請問未來我們的經濟部長先前所待的重樂科技在裡面會不會有角色你們知不知情\n\n30\n00:10:10,332 --> 00:10:13,954\n民間企業自主的行為外交部並不會介入這恐怕要問經濟部\n\n31\n00:10:28,129 --> 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Times上面就說在涉及具體的資金撥付上台灣的調子非常的慢而且台灣曾經許諾投入不少於3300萬美金用於台捷民主夥伴供應鏈韌性計劃你有聽過這個計劃嗎?\n424594\t442045\t有當然剛剛委員所提到的先進晶片設計中心就是其中一個部分那兩項重點的撥款項目是1350萬美元跟600萬美元而捷克方面至今沒有收到該項目的任何一筆經費\n443466\t458623\t請問外交部知道這件事情嗎?或者這是一個錯誤的報導嗎?這是錯誤資訊,您剛提到有一個600萬的預算我沒有辦法確認它的金額目前不過有這件事,但是我們已經撥款了你已經撥款600萬的美元給捷克\n461886\t463846\t那請問ACDRC本來是臺灣跟捷克要共同舉辦的開幕儀式\n491832\t493815\t請問這件事情還有要繼續辦嗎?這件事情還會繼續辦但是因為我們約要先簽所以會在3月中的時候辦嗎?\n503254\t506516\t那最後我要講一下結論就是在這個financial times裡面認為說撥款的速度太慢讓捷克方面有一點不滿\n529013\t546740\t最後給大家看一張照片這是捷克半導體的投資商機說明會我們看到二月份的時候崇越科技跟投資捷克的代表捷克經濟駐文化辦事處簽署合作備忘錄MOU就這麼剛好\n548260\t573589\t崇越科技的董事長郭志輝也就是現在的準經濟部長我不曉得是暗示了他當時就被內定為經濟部長還是接下了經濟部長之後有實質的影響力讓崇越科技有角色變成郭志輝的關係從經濟部跟民間部門有資源上面的互動\n576643\t590152\t這個研討會是捷克代表處舉辦的,並不是我方舉辦的對啊,不是啊,但是我要問你的是,說我們裡面有這個準經濟部長這件事情,你們的看法跟態度是什麼嗎?捷克代表處邀請新東向協會舉辦的,那細節我們並不清楚\n592534\t608821\t未來在台灣跟半導體的投資方面因為台灣跟捷克還是會透過外交部嘛很多事情的進行那請問未來我們的經濟部長先前所待的重樂科技在裡面會不會有角色你們知不知情\n610332\t613954\t民間企業自主的行為外交部並不會介入這恐怕要問經濟部\n628129\t628149\t好,謝謝\n","txt":"請田次長徐院長早安次長我想要請問您知道在那個期刊雜誌Financial 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02:04.464\n這個金額部分我們並沒有公開不過基本上我們跟他們之間沒有報導所稱的預算上的問題\n\n02:26.837 --> 02:37.272\n那在報道裏面寫到2023年11月台灣行政院公佈了金創台灣法案的計劃有這件事吧?\n\n02:38.189 --> 03:05.672\n這是國科會的業務國科會的業務嘛但是我們跟捷克來說還是跟外交部有關嘛很多的談判上面來說的話國科會出的錢嘛那上面呢裡面計劃章中寫到10年內要投資3000億的台幣運用台灣半導體的優勢結合人工AI技術的創新布局未來的產業科技喔\n\n03:07.832 --> 03:21.857\n國科會的計畫,他們準備在捷克舉辦精創海外基地還要成立半導體的研究中心這個報導也提到說本來今年2月就要推動撥款\n\n03:23.197 --> 03:41.099\n但是國科會主委表示．在捷克大學的項目不是跟捷克合作．也不勉強簽署臺捷科技的合作協議．想請問這件事情外交部怎麼看．有沒有接到捷克方面對於此事的反應．\n\n03:42.386 --> 04:04.527\n捷克曾經跟我們表達說這個計畫跟委員剛剛所講的計畫兩者是如何區別那我們也跟什麼區別我們就是說這是兩個計畫您剛剛講的第一個是外交部的計畫第二個是國客會的計畫第一個計畫是捷克與台灣晶片產業項目衝突解析的計畫是這樣嗎\n\n04:06.534 --> 04:27.237\n你把兩個計畫的名稱說清楚第一個計畫是先進晶片中心的計畫這個是外交部的計畫第二個計畫是國科會以國內的這個以晶片為基礎的創新為中心延伸到國外的計畫這是兩個不同的計畫那外交部的計畫總共預計投入多少的預算跟資源\n\n04:28.157 --> 04:48.752\n剛剛有跟委員報告就是說這個計劃我的印象是現在沒有對外公布實際上的金額那國科會的有嘛那國科會公布的叫做10年內投資3000億台幣那是不是我們在投入的經費上面跟我們的這個有落差我們看一下下一張同影片好不好來\n\n04:50.646 --> 05:18.177\n可以看到,國科會,這是國科會的他有提到的是,包含是29億2000萬等等的台灣金創方案,300億的預算,一年至少要花300億300億減掉我們今年編的是94.9億,等於是205億所以有很大的落差,這是國科會的部分那剛剛您講了外交部的部分,不能說我就不問了\n\n05:19.838 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Times上面就說在涉及具體的資金撥付上台灣的調子非常的慢而且台灣曾經許諾投入不少於3300萬美金用於台捷民主夥伴供應鏈韌性計劃你有聽過這個計劃嗎?"},{"start":424.594,"end":442.045,"text":"有當然剛剛委員所提到的先進晶片設計中心就是其中一個部分那兩項重點的撥款項目是1350萬美元跟600萬美元而捷克方面至今沒有收到該項目的任何一筆經費"},{"start":443.466,"end":458.623,"text":"請問外交部知道這件事情嗎?或者這是一個錯誤的報導嗎?這是錯誤資訊,您剛提到有一個600萬的預算我沒有辦法確認它的金額目前不過有這件事,但是我們已經撥款了你已經撥款600萬的美元給捷克"},{"start":461.886,"end":463.846,"text":"那請問ACDRC本來是臺灣跟捷克要共同舉辦的開幕儀式"},{"start":491.832,"end":493.815,"text":"請問這件事情還有要繼續辦嗎?這件事情還會繼續辦但是因為我們約要先簽所以會在3月中的時候辦嗎?"},{"start":503.254,"end":506.516,"text":"那最後我要講一下結論就是在這個financial times裡面認為說撥款的速度太慢讓捷克方面有一點不滿"},{"start":529.013,"end":546.74,"text":"最後給大家看一張照片這是捷克半導體的投資商機說明會我們看到二月份的時候崇越科技跟投資捷克的代表捷克經濟駐文化辦事處簽署合作備忘錄MOU就這麼剛好"},{"start":548.26,"end":573.589,"text":"崇越科技的董事長郭志輝也就是現在的準經濟部長我不曉得是暗示了他當時就被內定為經濟部長還是接下了經濟部長之後有實質的影響力讓崇越科技有角色變成郭志輝的關係從經濟部跟民間部門有資源上面的互動"},{"start":576.643,"end":590.152,"text":"這個研討會是捷克代表處舉辦的,並不是我方舉辦的對啊,不是啊,但是我要問你的是,說我們裡面有這個準經濟部長這件事情,你們的看法跟態度是什麼嗎?捷克代表處邀請新東向協會舉辦的,那細節我們並不清楚"},{"start":592.534,"end":608.821,"text":"未來在台灣跟半導體的投資方面因為台灣跟捷克還是會透過外交部嘛很多事情的進行那請問未來我們的經濟部長先前所待的重樂科技在裡面會不會有角色你們知不知情"},{"start":610.332,"end":613.954,"text":"民間企業自主的行為外交部並不會介入這恐怕要問經濟部"},{"start":628.129,"end":628.149,"text":"好,謝謝"}]}}}}