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00:01:19,593\n這個部分是不是可以請基金會來做一個說明?好,我們有請徐孟老實董事長,還有邁亞國務,謝謝。委員,早安。早安。目前你們這樣調查開會的費額目前為止,有多少人會想不下去的?呃,差不多15%。15%?15%要留在台北這裡。\n\n5\n00:01:42,866 --> 00:01:46,755\n15%的樓在台北本身再請教一下樓在台北哪一個地方\n\n6\n00:01:53,228 --> 00:02:11,979\n我們未來會在台北租一個辦公空間來就比較緊急的業務做辦理所以大部分我們會有一個總部的概念這樣也不對你們的做法是這樣\n\n7\n00:02:13,940 --> 00:02:14,940\n這樣是不對的捏\n\n8\n00:02:30,846 --> 00:02:34,268\n你是不是說請坐15%是說不要去桃園要不要怎麼處理我們可能就會依勞動基準法去支錢\n\n9\n00:02:45,303 --> 00:03:00,008\n去之前：就會有他的福利：來,我們的問題來了他說我們辦公的所在這樣啦喔,辦公的所在：你們未來辦公的所在,你們整個要去刷去永久下,你們就要整個刷,又代罷沒辦法\n\n10\n00:03:01,568 --> 00:03:03,249\n因為這個新聞的製作在台北市我們會有一個會有一個辦公空間比較方便台北市的新聞的辦理這樣\n\n11\n00:03:31,768 --> 00:03:35,372\n所以我說是怎樣才能兩個都刷去永久的同意這是一個問題本來跟你們說的你們要來你們所有的機會現在辦公室要做什麼一星期來\n\n12\n00:03:48,804 --> 00:03:54,106\n先讓我,再來本席要跟你說的就是說,你說之前會啦,在這個總統你們在這裡問的時候,那我覺得在這個85%裡面,我願意去討論,因為搬遷嘛,就是對這個所在去討論上班,但是在\n\n13\n00:04:12,873 --> 00:04:14,976\n我認為我非常滿意,但到了通行時,我認為我越來越不適合那個環境,我更愛坐車,跟小孩的問題、中小孩的問題,跟族群的問題,因為我在台北住好,但我為了環境,\n\n14\n00:04:33,837 --> 00:04:44,453\n我亦派出頭路,我去到桃園,坐一、兩個月薪,我感冒我沒適合的時候,要如何是好來,請回答謝。\n\n15\n00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:56,747\n報告委員,我們對員工在搬遷到桃園以後會有三個比較重要的部分,一個是租屋的補貼,第二個是…沒有啦,我現在都知道要租屋、要大、要什麼,員工人家人的時間,有時候我在南部,我來中部住不下的時候,我也會想到要回到南部的時候,這個補助都有啦,只是我覺得我沒辦法適應,\n\n16\n00:05:13,456 --> 00:05:24,702\n去打一、二個維新我認為沒有適合這樣他是要資遣還是會離議的來,你回答一下來,勞動部來,副市長來是,委員好來,副市長報告,剛剛委員詢問的是說如果是搬遷調動當下我如果沒有辦法過去因為他其實工作地點沒有,我一定願意要去是是是\n\n17\n00:05:42,190 --> 00:05:42,990\n委員說的是有很多搬遷的這種個案這個就是所謂的猶豫期\n\n18\n00:06:01,235 --> 00:06:15,096\n目前在法律面上面我們規範基本的是搬遷時候的離職但是呢很多的因為有工會很多工會會跟僱主談委員關心的就是你要讓我的員工有一些猶豫期\n\n19\n00:06:16,198 --> 00:06:19,381\n對,這是重點,我現在今天煮剛才你問到重點要四分的時候就是這個重點那委員提的猶豫期我們很多的企業會跟工會談在協商在搬遷之前會談猶豫期要多久猶豫期到了時候員工還有一個選擇那那個選擇如果員工要離開的時候是不是優於法令給予一些補償這個會在雙方協商的時候來議定下來喔好,來那個副主委\n\n20\n00:06:45,675 --> 00:06:52,619\n剛才這樣說的,你有聽到嗎?對,有聽到,因為不願意的話當然非自願離職必須有一些事業的給付,但是那個緩衝期的話我現在就是跟你說,跟他們選定的,是有時候我們真的去跟他們的環境,我們又不適合的時候,跟他說我又同時沒有這個選定的時候,是不是有這個阿祖米啊?也謝謝委員,這個有先見之明,因為有人搬過去還會猶豫\n\n21\n00:07:13,912 --> 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他說我們辦公的所在這樣啦喔,辦公的所在：你們未來辦公的所在,你們整個要去刷去永久下,你們就要整個刷,又代罷沒辦法\n181568\t183249\t因為這個新聞的製作在台北市我們會有一個會有一個辦公空間比較方便台北市的新聞的辦理這樣\n211768\t215372\t所以我說是怎樣才能兩個都刷去永久的同意這是一個問題本來跟你們說的你們要來你們所有的機會現在辦公室要做什麼一星期來\n228804\t234106\t先讓我,再來本席要跟你說的就是說,你說之前會啦,在這個總統你們在這裡問的時候,那我覺得在這個85%裡面,我願意去討論,因為搬遷嘛,就是對這個所在去討論上班,但是在\n252873\t254976\t我認為我非常滿意,但到了通行時,我認為我越來越不適合那個環境,我更愛坐車,跟小孩的問題、中小孩的問題,跟族群的問題,因為我在台北住好,但我為了環境,\n273837\t284453\t我亦派出頭路,我去到桃園,坐一、兩個月薪,我感冒我沒適合的時候,要如何是好來,請回答謝。\n285180\t296747\t報告委員,我們對員工在搬遷到桃園以後會有三個比較重要的部分,一個是租屋的補貼,第二個是…沒有啦,我現在都知道要租屋、要大、要什麼,員工人家人的時間,有時候我在南部,我來中部住不下的時候,我也會想到要回到南部的時候,這個補助都有啦,只是我覺得我沒辦法適應,\n313456\t324702\t去打一、二個維新我認為沒有適合這樣他是要資遣還是會離議的來,你回答一下來,勞動部來,副市長來是,委員好來,副市長報告,剛剛委員詢問的是說如果是搬遷調動當下我如果沒有辦法過去因為他其實工作地點沒有,我一定願意要去是是是\n342190\t342990\t委員說的是有很多搬遷的這種個案這個就是所謂的猶豫期\n361235\t375096\t目前在法律面上面我們規範基本的是搬遷時候的離職但是呢很多的因為有工會很多工會會跟僱主談委員關心的就是你要讓我的員工有一些猶豫期\n376198\t379381\t對,這是重點,我現在今天煮剛才你問到重點要四分的時候就是這個重點那委員提的猶豫期我們很多的企業會跟工會談在協商在搬遷之前會談猶豫期要多久猶豫期到了時候員工還有一個選擇那那個選擇如果員工要離開的時候是不是優於法令給予一些補償這個會在雙方協商的時候來議定下來喔好,來那個副主委\n405675\t412619\t剛才這樣說的,你有聽到嗎?對,有聽到,因為不願意的話當然非自願離職必須有一些事業的給付,但是那個緩衝期的話我現在就是跟你說,跟他們選定的,是有時候我們真的去跟他們的環境,我們又不適合的時候,跟他說我又同時沒有這個選定的時候,是不是有這個阿祖米啊?也謝謝委員,這個有先見之明,因為有人搬過去還會猶豫\n433912\t436215\t所以我們會跟基金會來討論是不是有一個緩衝期讓員工有這樣的一個思考我認為你們要緩衝期的時間我們在這裡跟你建議是最起碼要三個月因為這個三個月以後適應孩子安排好\n451394\t451634\t很遺憾你們\n","txt":"主席、我們這裡副主委請中副主委還有請我們的勞動部那個副市長好,勞動部的副市長各位早早早早,在這裡本身要跟你們談到一個今天我們所說的說要有台北前往郊區投資在這個當中有兩個地方\n一位在南港、一位在我們這裡附近整兩個要前去投降因為環境的關係所以在這個明年底我們就開始準備要前\n然而這裏面,我們的董事長現在一直在這項是在台北上班,現在要去唐雲上班在這個環境裏面,您剛才說有問過、有調查過,但又有很多人要繼續去那裡上班,來回答一下\n這個部分是不是可以請基金會來做一個說明?好,我們有請徐孟老實董事長,還有邁亞國務,謝謝。委員,早安。早安。目前你們這樣調查開會的費額目前為止,有多少人會想不下去的?呃,差不多15%。15%?15%要留在台北這裡。\n15%的樓在台北本身再請教一下樓在台北哪一個地方\n我們未來會在台北租一個辦公空間來就比較緊急的業務做辦理所以大部分我們會有一個總部的概念這樣也不對你們的做法是這樣\n這樣是不對的捏\n你是不是說 請坐15%是說不要去桃園要不要怎麼處理我們可能就會依勞動基準法去支錢\n去之前：就會有他的福利：來,我們的問題來了 他說我們辦公的所在這樣啦喔,辦公的所在：你們未來辦公的所在,你們整個要去刷去永久下,你們就要整個刷,又代罷沒辦法\n因為這個新聞的製作在台北市我們會有一個會有一個辦公空間比較方便台北市的新聞的辦理這樣\n所以我說是怎樣才能兩個都刷去永久的同意這是一個問題本來跟你們說的你們要來你們所有的機會現在辦公室要做什麼一星期來\n先讓我,再來本席要跟你說的就是說,你說之前會啦,在這個總統你們在這裡問的時候,那我覺得在這個85%裡面,我願意去討論,因為搬遷嘛,就是對這個所在去討論上班,但是在\n我認為我非常滿意,但到了通行時,我認為我越來越不適合那個環境,我更愛坐車,跟小孩的問題、中小孩的問題,跟族群的問題,因為我在台北住好,但我為了環境,\n我亦派出頭路,我去到桃園,坐一、兩個月薪,我感冒我沒適合的時候,要如何是好來,請回答謝。\n報告委員,我們對員工在搬遷到桃園以後會有三個比較重要的部分,一個是租屋的補貼,第二個是…沒有啦,我現在都知道要租屋、要大、要什麼,員工人家人的時間,有時候我在南部,我來中部住不下的時候,我也會想到要回到南部的時候,這個補助都有啦,只是我覺得我沒辦法適應,\n去打一、二個維新我認為沒有適合這樣他是要資遣還是會離議的來,你回答一下來,勞動部來,副市長來是,委員好來,副市長報告,剛剛委員詢問的是說如果是搬遷調動當下我如果沒有辦法過去因為他其實工作地點沒有,我一定願意要去是是是\n委員說的是有很多搬遷的這種個案這個就是所謂的猶豫期\n目前在法律面上面我們規範基本的是搬遷時候的離職但是呢很多的因為有工會很多工會會跟僱主談委員關心的就是你要讓我的員工有一些猶豫期\n對,這是重點,我現在今天煮剛才你問到重點要四分的時候就是這個重點那委員提的猶豫期我們很多的企業會跟工會談在協商在搬遷之前會談猶豫期要多久猶豫期到了時候員工還有一個選擇那那個選擇如果員工要離開的時候是不是優於法令給予一些補償這個會在雙方協商的時候來議定下來喔好,來那個副主委\n剛才這樣說的,你有聽到嗎?對,有聽到,因為不願意的話當然非自願離職必須有一些事業的給付,但是那個緩衝期的話我現在就是跟你說,跟他們選定的,是有時候我們真的去跟他們的環境,我們又不適合的時候,跟他說我又同時沒有這個選定的時候,是不是有這個阿祖米啊?也謝謝委員,這個有先見之明,因為有人搬過去還會猶豫\n所以我們會跟基金會來討論是不是有一個緩衝期讓員工有這樣的一個思考我認為你們要緩衝期的時間我們在這裡跟你建議是最起碼要三個月因為這個三個月以後適應孩子安排好\n很遺憾你們\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.773 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