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00:03:12,789\n語言的搶救計畫你知道這個族語的師徒制有沒有這個事情有我覺得這個非常好欸是這個讓很多原來不會然後他這個啊讓很多這個年輕的一代啦年輕的一代他馬上很快的學會他的他的族語對不對對沒有錯對師徒制運作起來還蠻成功的\n\n9\n00:03:14,028 --> 00:03:41,405\n對啊你看那個少族的師徒之就非常齁兩三個很厲害所以我現在我要說的就是說雖然啦齁有一些像八載族或其他有一些族他還沒有變成正式成立的族不過語言文化的流失現在是很快速的是對不對是沒有錯沒有錯嘛齁在這個情況之下\n\n10\n00:03:42,543 --> 00:04:06,542\n我們要不要在法令許可的範圍內啊比如說像這個師徒制的這個不然我看你再過幾年這些語言都不見了耶八載族的語言什麼樣的語言都不見了他雖然現在還沒有官方正式的承認不過這些語言我們必須要留下來吧這些文化我們必須要留下來吧不然哪一天你\n\n11\n00:04:07,222 --> 00:04:36,953\n你跟他講說我承認你承認你你的文化什麼都沒了甚至還沒等到你承認的話可能他什麼都沒有各位報告因為憲判是17號就已經把他們列為是南島語系民族的後裔所以其實如果政策決定這個計畫的狀況我們應該在語言文化的部分就可以更多的依註在這個裡面所以現在可不可以做應該是可以做而且我們現在也針對他們開始在開始登記希望能夠證明原住民這個部分\n\n12\n00:04:37,318 --> 00:05:04,605\n那我們其實從98年就開始做只是這個經費的部分可能挹注的不是那麼多我知道你們之前有做你們有去做很多的這一些你有去找他們的棋老甚至有錄音有什麼有保存他們的語言嘛我都知道嘛但語言是活的嘛語言不是在收音機裡面錄音帶裡面或YouTube裡面你去這好像就變成歷史了啊\n\n13\n00:05:05,345 --> 00:05:30,084\n對不對這些人都是活的啊對不對我的意思是說在法定許可的範圍雖然他還沒有正式成為我們原住民族中的一族不過語言文化我覺得你們也可以去跟文化部合作啊大家一起找經費拿錢把這些語言文化要留下來啊我覺得這個才是我今天跟你說的重點\n\n14\n00:05:30,885 --> 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