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00:02:36,152\n當然現在情況是時空背景可能有所不同但很難讓人不然聯想到類似的情況會不會再次發生請問副局長你認為中國這次利用這種領導人出訪影響我國康定級的升級案的機會有多大\n\n9\n00:02:38,052 --> 00:03:00,349\n我們不排除就是中共還是會利用各種機會來干擾歐洲國家友台行動跟台法台歐的關係那不過我據我們的瞭解這一個性能提升案仍然持續在推動不過我們還是要非常的小心中共會利用機會來干擾我們之間的關係\n\n10\n00:03:03,283 --> 00:03:19,253\n我想提醒一下副局長因為你們研究情報的其實你們都知道法國主要的是軍工企業跟政府部門其實都有很深的連結其實表示很容易就受到政府的決策影響我國這六艘康定級的軍艦升級案總預算高達台幣432億再加上中國憑以\n\n11\n00:03:25,037 --> 00:03:31,243\n基建擾台,為了考驗我國的國軍的後勤能力,113年2月16日國防部決標的公告裡面,我們已經跟法國簽署完成艦艇戰系載台零復建,總金額有24億元,等於六艘抗敵級的軍艦升級案,總金額就已經超過台幣456億元了。\n\n12\n00:03:48,380 --> 00:04:06,012\n當然目標就是為了有效的維持海軍的拉法葉艦戰力以應對中國的威脅但也別忘了康定級是我國海軍非常重要的反潛戰力所以還是請國安局要持續的關注千萬不要讓外力干擾到國防艦艇升級案的成果好嗎?是另外還有康定級的軍艦外我們還有幻象2000的戰鬥機是不是也是跟法國買的呢?是\n\n13\n00:04:16,823 --> 00:04:34,469\n其實之前有一段很長的時間拉法葉的軍艦案導致台法的關係其實不是很好所以後來幻象戰機妥善率其實也不是很好所以最近台法關係改善之後有軍事的專家指出其實我們從空軍半年來四波的採購動作來看\n\n14\n00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:54,998\n其中幾乎都是法國採購相關維修零附件所以這些與法國的軍事交流也請國安局一定要特別的注意還密切的注意臺灣會不會被當作法國跟中國的交易的棋子讓臺灣國家安全被影響到這可能要特別的注意可以嗎可以是\n\n15\n00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:24,519\n下一個問題下個禮拜520就是新就任總統即將交接的重要日子同時也是兩岸關係的一個重要的節點那本席看一下國內研究兩岸關係的學者的論點他們普遍認為從3月中共兩會結束到520總統就職的這段期間是觀察中共對台灣下一任總統釋放政治訊息的重要的時間但是這段時間兩岸的\n\n16\n00:05:25,779 --> 00:05:25,819\n主席\n\n17\n00:05:45,908 --> 00:05:55,251\n而且甚至還到上個禮拜還出現了中國的公務船跟海警船編隊直接闖入我國的金門淨線水域那北溪認為北京是在利用這個機會跟我們打法律戰想要擴大管轄權那想請教副局長北溪擔心的是如果我們沒有辦法有效的反制這樣中國船隻在金門馬祖淨線水域進出成為常態那這樣的量變會不會累積變成我們失去有效管轄權的質變呢\n\n18\n00:06:16,087 --> 00:06:40,172\n我想我們國軍及海巡的海巡署我們的弟兄都是非常的嚴正的在執法我們也在做防禦的一個動作我想大家都沒有鬆懈我們也都是很認真的在執法我們中共從來沒有放棄以武力犯台的這個選項\n\n19\n00:06:41,272 --> 00:06:49,876\n那也不斷地用軍事跟灰色地帶來施壓我們一定會一起收集共軍的這些異常的動態來機先應處\n\n20\n00:06:53,308 --> 00:06:55,390\n我們會審慎的面對謝謝副局長那有請那個次長外交次長謝謝請田次長午安早\n\n21\n00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:51,618\n市長早那台灣目前所屬的外部環境似乎是比以前更加嚴峻那市長認為呢確實從整個地緣政治來看我們確實是受到很強大的壓力但是從內部來看其實我們團結的力量也相對的大那麼如果說從國際間尤其在東歐歐盟方面他們關切台灣的力道\n\n22\n00:07:52,478 --> 00:08:05,089\n跟提到臺海安全穩定的次數等等我覺得已經超過以往非常多就是說臺灣整個的價值來講已經受到全世界的關注\n\n23\n00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:25,767\n其實最主要的影響應該是台灣國家安全應該是美中台三角的關係短期上由美國大選因素長期上美中激烈戰略競爭的態勢已經非常的明確了所以其實對台灣而言是沒有最嚴峻只有更嚴峻的外部環境在那麼嚴峻的情況下那請問\n\n24\n00:08:27,327 --> 00:08:32,631\n請問一下次長你認為臺灣是不是要有一個具有豐富外交實務經驗的人來擔任外交部長呢?來領導外交部呢?像本席就覺得田次長你那麼優秀又那麼資深其實你蠻適合當外交部長的你是不是有這個意願呢?\n\n25\n00:08:48,220 --> 00:09:02,314\n我覺得我現在扮演的角色我很滿意但是我覺得能力還不夠擔當大任我希望能夠在我所學能夠相助新的外交部長這是我的想法\n\n26\n00:09:03,097 --> 00:09:05,158\n因為現在的外交部長現在外界就很多傳言民進黨派系的平衡的結果像我覺得我們現在來看一下檢視林佳龍是不是合擔任外交部長的職位然後我現在這邊整理出來從2000年到現在歷屆的外交部長上任前相關的社外工作經驗我們可以發現\n\n27\n00:09:25,183 --> 00:09:29,369\n其實近年來的外交部長幾乎都是職業外交官還有相關外交專業的資深的學者出身但問題是林教長在接任外交部長前涉外事務經驗就很少甚至沒有駐外的經驗而且勉強說涉外\n\n28\n00:09:41,707 --> 00:09:57,393\n事務的經驗或許就是只有擔任過外交部的無任所大使那請問一下次長請問你會不會擔心國際環境那麼險峻情況下把外交部交給一個涉外經驗那麼少的繼任者呢請次長你可以說出你的心中的真心話嗎\n\n29\n00:09:58,755 --> 00:10:17,002\n我們林部長做過台中市的市長我了解在台中市做市長的時候就推動過很多城市外交成果也非常之好所以我認為他對外交有他獨特的一個想法跟做法我是高度的讚賞\n\n30\n00:10:18,749 --> 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台中市的市長我了解在台中市做市長的時候就推動過很多城市外交成果也非常之好所以我認為他對外交有他獨特的一個想法跟做法我是高度的讚賞\n好那最後我還是希望外交部能夠在520交接的時候趕快協助林佳龍然後無縫接軌的學習適應的時間因為現在還是時間越短越好因為我們敵人是不等人的啦甚至無孔不入希望能夠這樣去協助他可以嗎?謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.951 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