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部長\n189655\t212302\t我跟委員報告這個當然時代環境有很大的變化對於學生培養國際移動的這種能力我想各國皆然大概像早期我們大部分的學生都在國內然後比較少數的像公費留學等等的我覺得這個在教育部的政策上也一直比較希望\n212902\t216405\t有機會臺灣的學生跟國際交流也歡迎國際的學生來臺灣所以這幾年就如委員所看到這倒不是說把國內的孩子推外對國外的學生來我想在政策上我認為這個已經到了一個學習不應該再有太固定的說永遠都在臺灣這塊土地上\n235182\t250039\t另外一個就是事實上也是當然有國際的交流但是是臺灣現在的教育有非常進步以前是因為臺灣跟國際的落差很大所以臺灣現在教育非常好\n251360\t251800\t吳春城議員\n281740\t282060\t吳春城議員\n301870\t323908\t圖表可以看得出來粉紅色就是這種實驗每年不斷地在成長可以看得出需求很多我們希望這個更多自主更多開放甚至有一點類似國外的這種實驗跟國內體制不太一樣的這個的需求非常的大\n325902\t354495\t但部長有看到這個問題嗎?是,這部分我跟委員報告,這些年因為從教育基本法後,即使臺灣的教育也不斷地在讓家長有更多教育選擇選擇,但是這裡我要提的一個就是說,但是這裡只有到高中,大學高等教育就沒有了,高等教育沒有以後,現在這裡有4萬多人,4萬在就學的這種非正式教育,實驗教育當中,他到這裡,\n355756\t364353\t幾乎只有一條路非出國不行因為跟我們的教育體制沒有銜接因為我們沒有實驗型的大學\n365487\t368648\t這一點我跟委員報告當然要到完全一個機構現在教育部也核定了一所高校的實驗的這個部分是以人文藝術為主也會展開但是現在\n390818\t418998\t現在我跟委員報告的是現在大學的入學當中有一個特殊選才這樣的機制這個機制他也不是會去參考一定要參加入學的學測測驗等等的而這個機制目前也有比較多的學校已經展開這個概念因為委員我現在有看到部長我現在看到有五所大學提出申請只有一所大學現在不只啦委員特殊選才的大學不只五所不只\n419318\t422862\t那所是實驗型的大學對實驗型我現在講的是實驗型大學因為現在國小國中到高中後面他們因為關鍵一個他們是不是沒有其他的路徑那剛才報告那個特殊選材的做法其實將近有40校\n440662\t451952\t現在有幾所學校啊,像清華啦,交大啦,逢甲但是呢,這一個生多周少嘛,就是入取名額只有30名聽說報名都到達500人,入取率只有6%我應該這樣說啦,因為臺灣的大學就不像高中以下那大學本來就是比較多樣\n460580\t460700\t吳春城議員\n490532\t491353\t吳春城教育部長\n510726\t528762\t跟部長來提的第三人生的另外一個就是我們對於高齡社會提到的要第三人生大學可以看得出這一方面我們的高教師都沒有一直覺得大學就是給18歲的人來念的60歲以後的人\n530623\t550784\t目前這方面的思維部長算是第一個先驅但是要把這樣的思想啟蒙下去你看這一個前幾天的新聞我們中醫藥師的師長去考北藝大圓他的夢然後他還必須要循正規的\n552386\t555548\t那為什麼要這麼的辛苦我們的教育為什麼要擋住 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部長\n我跟委員報告這個當然時代環境有很大的變化對於學生培養國際移動的這種能力我想各國皆然大概像早期我們大部分的學生都在國內然後比較少數的像公費留學等等的我覺得這個在教育部的政策上也一直比較希望\n有機會臺灣的學生跟國際交流也歡迎國際的學生來臺灣所以這幾年就如委員所看到這倒不是說把國內的孩子推外對國外的學生來我想在政策上我認為這個已經到了一個學習不應該再有太固定的說永遠都在臺灣這塊土地上\n另外一個就是事實上也是當然有國際的交流但是是臺灣現在的教育有非常進步以前是因為臺灣跟國際的落差很大所以臺灣現在教育非常好\n吳春城議員\n吳春城議員\n圖表可以看得出來粉紅色就是這種實驗每年不斷地在成長可以看得出需求很多我們希望這個更多自主更多開放甚至有一點類似國外的這種實驗跟國內體制不太一樣的這個的需求非常的大\n但部長有看到這個問題嗎?是,這部分我跟委員報告,這些年因為從教育基本法後,即使臺灣的教育也不斷地在讓家長有更多教育選擇選擇,但是這裡我要提的一個就是說,但是這裡只有到高中,大學高等教育就沒有了,高等教育沒有以後,現在這裡有4萬多人,4萬在就學的這種非正式教育,實驗教育當中,他到這裡,\n幾乎只有一條路非出國不行因為跟我們的教育體制沒有銜接因為我們沒有實驗型的大學\n這一點我跟委員報告當然要到完全一個機構現在教育部也核定了一所高校的實驗的這個部分是以人文藝術為主也會展開但是現在\n現在我跟委員報告的是現在大學的入學當中有一個特殊選才這樣的機制這個機制他也不是會去參考一定要參加入學的學測測驗等等的而這個機制目前也有比較多的學校已經展開這個概念因為委員我現在有看到部長我現在看到有五所大學提出申請只有一所大學現在不只啦委員特殊選才的大學不只五所不只\n那所是實驗型的大學對實驗型我現在講的是實驗型大學因為現在國小國中到高中後面他們因為關鍵一個他們是不是沒有其他的路徑那剛才報告那個特殊選材的做法其實將近有40校\n現在有幾所學校啊,像清華啦,交大啦,逢甲但是呢,這一個生多周少嘛,就是入取名額只有30名聽說報名都到達500人,入取率只有6%我應該這樣說啦,因為臺灣的大學就不像高中以下那大學本來就是比較多樣\n吳春城議員\n吳春城教育部長\n跟部長來提的第三人生的另外一個就是我們對於高齡社會提到的要第三人生大學可以看得出這一方面我們的高教師都沒有一直覺得大學就是給18歲的人來念的60歲以後的人\n目前這方面的思維部長算是第一個先驅但是要把這樣的思想啟蒙下去你看這一個前幾天的新聞我們中醫藥師的師長去考北藝大圓他的夢然後他還必須要循正規的\n那為什麼要這麼的辛苦我們的教育為什麼要擋住 擋這個門\n那OK當然這個所以我再提到了既然我們有一扇門就是教育有實驗教育的這樣的體制他可以排除了各種教育的法規幾乎都可以排除只是看你要不要做而已那所以呢我也認為不要用這種教育法規因為再循那條路線去想我相信一定想不出來的啦是不是可以用這樣的方式來解開第三人生大學的一個\n法規的限制\n第二點就是可不可以針對實驗教育在高教鍛煉的這個現況來進行檢討然後第二點是對於第三人生大學運用在這種專科以上實驗教育的可行性是不是可以請教育部因為現在有個小組在進行\n主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.009 --> 00:01.170\n吳春城委員請潘部長好請部長部長好部長好這個我到立法院來第一次的質詢就是獻給你今天可能是最後一次在教育委員會希望你跟上一層樓\n\n00:30.646 --> 00:54.882\n剛才有提到這個看到這個部長這幾年來這個歷經滄桑所以這個我要想問一下部長這個有沒有發表一下臨北感言你覺得你最大的遺憾是什麼只能講一點不能變成你的你覺得真的要講最重要的一個關鍵字\n\n00:56.667 --> 01:21.880\n我跟委員報告因為學校畢竟真的是要以學生為主的這個核心概念那校園仍然還是有學生受傷甚至霸凌等等這個事項我一直覺得這是作為一個教育體系要引導學生我認為在目前為止我們還沒有說更全面性的我覺得\n\n01:23.021 --> 01:25.962\n整個教育部很多僵化的體制那些體制是從哪裡來的那就是捆捆綁綁\n\n01:47.593 --> 01:55.697\n但是這些可能也是受政治的影響有一個政治的風向往哪邊吹那邊就會打開一扇門往那邊就會關上一扇門\n\n02:00.438 --> 02:20.684\n整個的教育部可能就在這一個當中遇到很多的困難就像這一個我要談的今天叫做一國兩制看到這個表也蠻奇怪的就是今天的我們的主題就是在國際招生的這一部分我們可以看到這個\n\n02:22.925 --> 02:44.807\n平均大概都有10萬名以上這幾年這10年來不斷的在推展但後面這3年可能受疫情的影響還有兩岸陸生的問題但是同時我們也看到我們近10年來的留學生赴海外的留學生也不斷的在成長\n\n02:46.172 --> 02:47.032\n我們在思維上面這個是什麼策略部長\n\n03:09.655 --> 03:32.302\n我跟委員報告這個當然時代環境有很大的變化對於學生培養國際移動的這種能力我想各國皆然大概像早期我們大部分的學生都在國內然後比較少數的像公費留學等等的我覺得這個在教育部的政策上也一直比較希望\n\n03:32.902 --> 03:36.405\n有機會臺灣的學生跟國際交流也歡迎國際的學生來臺灣所以這幾年就如委員所看到這倒不是說把國內的孩子推外對國外的學生來我想在政策上我認為這個已經到了一個學習不應該再有太固定的說永遠都在臺灣這塊土地上\n\n03:55.182 --> 04:10.039\n另外一個就是事實上也是當然有國際的交流但是是臺灣現在的教育有非常進步以前是因為臺灣跟國際的落差很大所以臺灣現在教育非常好\n\n04:11.360 --> 04:11.800\n吳春城議員\n\n04:41.740 --> 04:42.060\n吳春城議員\n\n05:01.870 --> 05:23.908\n圖表可以看得出來粉紅色就是這種實驗每年不斷地在成長可以看得出需求很多我們希望這個更多自主更多開放甚至有一點類似國外的這種實驗跟國內體制不太一樣的這個的需求非常的大\n\n05:25.902 --> 05:54.495\n但部長有看到這個問題嗎?是,這部分我跟委員報告,這些年因為從教育基本法後,即使臺灣的教育也不斷地在讓家長有更多教育選擇選擇,但是這裡我要提的一個就是說,但是這裡只有到高中,大學高等教育就沒有了,高等教育沒有以後,現在這裡有4萬多人,4萬在就學的這種非正式教育,實驗教育當中,他到這裡,\n\n05:55.756 --> 06:04.353\n幾乎只有一條路非出國不行因為跟我們的教育體制沒有銜接因為我們沒有實驗型的大學\n\n06:05.487 --> 06:08.648\n這一點我跟委員報告當然要到完全一個機構現在教育部也核定了一所高校的實驗的這個部分是以人文藝術為主也會展開但是現在\n\n06:30.818 --> 06:58.998\n現在我跟委員報告的是現在大學的入學當中有一個特殊選才這樣的機制這個機制他也不是會去參考一定要參加入學的學測測驗等等的而這個機制目前也有比較多的學校已經展開這個概念因為委員我現在有看到部長我現在看到有五所大學提出申請只有一所大學現在不只啦委員特殊選才的大學不只五所不只\n\n06:59.318 --> 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