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00:01:52,564\n我們更不會想到說這個美國這麼重要的亞太駐親會直接在公開的場合上面說聯合國的決議中國解讀有錯誤其實台灣是應該有機會可以參加WHA這些都是我們過去不敢想的\n\n7\n00:02:07,290 --> 00:02:31,204\n那這些真的都是外交同仁方方面面的努力而且我在這裡呢也必須說其實在外交事務上面各位外交同仁你們在承平時期但是領導的帶領的其實就是國家的尊嚴你們在外交場域上捍衛了我們自己的國家就等同於是在戰場上的三軍將士一樣因為有你們的守護\n\n8\n00:02:32,205 --> 00:02:53,591\n所以我們的軍人不用真正到第一線的戰場謝謝大家的辛勞你們交到的朋友越多台灣就越安全這是今天在這裡部長最後一次備詢我藉著跟部長的對話也再一次感謝全體所有包括基層外交部同仁真的真的非常的感謝大家\n\n9\n00:02:54,051 --> 00:03:10,944\n因為我知道大家其實尤其是在部內也好到了部外每三年一派有些人是攜家帶眷孩子太太不適應外面的環境有些人是拋妻棄子拋夫棄子也可以啦但總而言之每一個人的辛勞\n\n10\n00:03:12,505 --> 00:03:30,618\n國人在適當的時候其實回過頭來看都知道謝謝外交部因為不只是大的國家處境甚至是每一個國人在國外遇到急難的時候我們處理過多少的急難救助有多少國人在外面護照掉了臨時生病了受傷了\n\n11\n00:03:31,298 --> 00:03:31,338\n﹚蘇巧慧﹚\n\n12\n00:04:05,041 --> 00:04:30,541\n我必須說因為基於這樣的感謝所以當我聽到這個在國防外交委員會的質詢質詢與備詢之間的題目是這樣的時候我感到蠻不可思議的我以為國會殿堂上面的質詢應該是更有水準比如說部長我現在問你部長請問外交部有幾個社外交部經營有幾個社群媒體\n\n13\n00:04:31,786 --> 00:04:59,569\n還不少臉書推特部長我問你具體的請給我數字部長你的stress有多少粉絲了我還不確定部長這是公開資訊你為什麼沒有掌握呢是不是這樣這是需要嗎部長我認為我應該問的是部長在現在這個時代外交部是不是應該經營社群媒體社群媒體對國家的外交影響力到底有多少你可以回答我們嗎\n\n14\n00:05:01,192 --> 00:05:22,420\n非常謝謝委員提出來以推特來說因為推特是以國際為面向以國際為導向的一個社交媒體我們的推特到目前為止已經有五十幾萬個追蹤者我們外交部的這些追蹤者來說很多都是政治人物和國際的媒體\n\n15\n00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:48,662\n如果說他們追我們的話你剛是上一次中國禁台灣啤酒這篇我覺得你們的回應就非常好在社群平台上面社群平台上本來就應該用幽默的方式回應嘛中國禁台灣啤酒你們就說你們錯過了自由美好的滋味很好啊這個所有的人一看就知道這是什麼意思就跟你今天說你用強烈的語氣說我一定跟你站到底欸真的就像剛剛楚映委員說的啊\n\n16\n00:05:51,225 --> 00:06:00,452\n這個人家在群眾場上可以這樣說啊我們在幽默的社群平台上不能這樣寫哇這真的是雙標啊這實在是雙標那老實說因為社群媒體讓我們的能見度擴大之後確實台灣的訴求那各個外媒也都可以看到所以部長我真的真的強烈的建議喔不管是在這些社群網路的發言發文也好\n\n17\n00:06:17,645 --> 00:06:17,745\n蘇巧慧議員\n\n18\n00:06:41,194 --> 00:06:53,039\n這部分我覺得不是你個人的成績所以我覺得你不用不好意思這個是你代表國家我認為應該要收集陳冊部長這是立法委員的質詢你可以同意嗎非常謝謝委員的這個建議那我們這邊來跟同仁討論一下\n\n19\n00:06:58,301 --> 00:07:23,592\n在今天早上剛發生的一件事情就是說我前天有那個總統政訓給我那我也發在那個我們的推特上面捷克的參議長在那個message下面有留言那這個就是我們臺灣政府跟其他國家的這個高層利用社群媒體互動的一個很好的這個機會那這個是可以強化我們的publicmessaging和那個外交\n\n20\n00:07:23,832 --> 00:07:39,652\n他的語言風格模式本來就要用這樣就像你去捷克你要說捷克語你去日本你要說日語就像你去美國要說英語在社群平台上當然是用社群平台的語言來說話才能夠大家聽得懂這是最基本的道理\n\n21\n00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:44,975\n所以我必須說啦其實如果在這裡的質詢能夠是就後面的意義層次來討論實在是會比較高端一點過兩天要舉行國中會考連國中會考都不考填充題跟是非題了我們現在都考素養素養這兩個字知道嗎好啦那部長我最後啦\n\n22\n00:07:59,642 --> 00:08:24,777\n那個委員剛剛問的就是說那個把我們接受國際媒體系列撐撐的這個事情這個應該要做啦尤其是我對這個是相當的自豪就是接受國際媒體訪問到目前為止這個禮拜五還會再接受一次那一共是有328次你是代表著大家啦代表著台灣啦我帶領我們所有外交部的同仁集體對國際來發聲讓我們台灣的這個聲音能夠讓國際社會來聽見\n\n23\n00:08:29,861 --> 00:08:48,699\n最後部長剛剛我看到你今天早上收到了禮物是台灣當季的水果乾這樣的狀況那我覺得那個看起來品牌我是沒有看過但現在正是芒果的季節芒果乾也是蠻好吃的但我覺得這其實大家等一下應該可以開來吃了\n\n24\n00:08:49,400 --> 00:09:13,049\n因為有些密件可以開啊而且應該要拿出來趕快開趕快拿出來趕快吃掉它有些密件是不能開的這些大家應該都很清楚基本的公務人員也都很清楚上面有個那麼大的一個字叫做密的那種叫密件開了會有問題此密件非彼密件啊所以我勸那個等一下大家那密件應該蠻好吃的可以趕快吃一吃而且喔\n\n25\n00:09:13,809 --> 00:09:13,989\n謝謝部長,加油\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n390\t730\t主席 請吳部長\n12602\t39227\t部長好部長今天特別到國防外交因為是您在任期上最後一次到立法院備詢那其實國防外交尤其是在您領導的外交部門真的這8年來確實是做了非常非常多的努力當然這不只是部長一個人的努力這是全體外交部外交相關領域的各位所有同仁共同的努力\n39747\t54953\t所以才有今天我們有資格有機會有能耐可以說一聲啊我們真的讓世界看見台灣世界的關鍵字一定有台灣我相信部長你一定認同我這句話你帶領了一個了不起的團隊是吧\n56431\t81990\t非常謝謝委員的肯定那的確最近這幾年如果說除了這些外交的挫折之外不管是國際社會上面什麼重要的這種高峰會幾乎沒有例外都會提到我們台灣那在國際的這種重要的場合台海的和平穩定也都是大家共同的這個語言所以對於這種努力的這個結果我們同仁大家都感到非常的欣慰\n82090\t85912\t2016年我剛剛有這個機會來到立法院的時候那個時候我們從不敢想像會有如此多的國會議員議長訪問團到立法院來做國會的交流與參訪我們也不敢相信世界上的期刊拿到了這些台灣講到了台灣的時候是會講到台灣的產業台灣的文化台灣能夠對世界衛生做出的種種貢獻這些都是我們過去不敢想像的\n111403\t112564\t我們更不會想到說這個美國這麼重要的亞太駐親會直接在公開的場合上面說聯合國的決議中國解讀有錯誤其實台灣是應該有機會可以參加WHA這些都是我們過去不敢想的\n127290\t151204\t那這些真的都是外交同仁方方面面的努力而且我在這裡呢也必須說其實在外交事務上面各位外交同仁你們在承平時期但是領導的帶領的其實就是國家的尊嚴你們在外交場域上捍衛了我們自己的國家就等同於是在戰場上的三軍將士一樣因為有你們的守護\n152205\t173591\t所以我們的軍人不用真正到第一線的戰場謝謝大家的辛勞你們交到的朋友越多台灣就越安全這是今天在這裡部長最後一次備詢我藉著跟部長的對話也再一次感謝全體所有包括基層外交部同仁真的真的非常的感謝大家\n174051\t190944\t因為我知道大家其實尤其是在部內也好到了部外每三年一派有些人是攜家帶眷孩子太太不適應外面的環境有些人是拋妻棄子拋夫棄子也可以啦但總而言之每一個人的辛勞\n192505\t210618\t國人在適當的時候其實回過頭來看都知道謝謝外交部因為不只是大的國家處境甚至是每一個國人在國外遇到急難的時候我們處理過多少的急難救助有多少國人在外面護照掉了臨時生病了受傷了\n211298\t211338\t﹚蘇巧慧﹚\n245041\t270541\t我必須說因為基於這樣的感謝所以當我聽到這個在國防外交委員會的質詢質詢與備詢之間的題目是這樣的時候我感到蠻不可思議的我以為國會殿堂上面的質詢應該是更有水準比如說部長我現在問你部長請問外交部有幾個社外交部經營有幾個社群媒體\n271786\t299569\t還不少臉書推特部長我問你具體的請給我數字部長你的stress有多少粉絲了我還不確定部長這是公開資訊你為什麼沒有掌握呢是不是這樣這是需要嗎部長我認為我應該問的是部長在現在這個時代外交部是不是應該經營社群媒體社群媒體對國家的外交影響力到底有多少你可以回答我們嗎\n301192\t322420\t非常謝謝委員提出來以推特來說因為推特是以國際為面向以國際為導向的一個社交媒體我們的推特到目前為止已經有五十幾萬個追蹤者我們外交部的這些追蹤者來說很多都是政治人物和國際的媒體\n323600\t348662\t如果說他們追我們的話你剛是上一次中國禁台灣啤酒這篇我覺得你們的回應就非常好在社群平台上面社群平台上本來就應該用幽默的方式回應嘛中國禁台灣啤酒你們就說你們錯過了自由美好的滋味很好啊這個所有的人一看就知道這是什麼意思就跟你今天說你用強烈的語氣說我一定跟你站到底欸真的就像剛剛楚映委員說的啊\n351225\t360452\t這個人家在群眾場上可以這樣說啊我們在幽默的社群平台上不能這樣寫哇這真的是雙標啊這實在是雙標那老實說因為社群媒體讓我們的能見度擴大之後確實台灣的訴求那各個外媒也都可以看到所以部長我真的真的強烈的建議喔不管是在這些社群網路的發言發文也好\n377645\t377745\t蘇巧慧議員\n401194\t413039\t這部分我覺得不是你個人的成績所以我覺得你不用不好意思這個是你代表國家我認為應該要收集陳冊部長這是立法委員的質詢你可以同意嗎非常謝謝委員的這個建議那我們這邊來跟同仁討論一下\n418301\t443592\t在今天早上剛發生的一件事情就是說我前天有那個總統政訓給我那我也發在那個我們的推特上面捷克的參議長在那個message下面有留言那這個就是我們臺灣政府跟其他國家的這個高層利用社群媒體互動的一個很好的這個機會那這個是可以強化我們的public messaging和那個外交\n443832\t459652\t他的語言風格模式本來就要用這樣就像你去捷克你要說捷克語你去日本你要說日語就像你去美國要說英語在社群平台上當然是用社群平台的語言來說話才能夠大家聽得懂這是最基本的道理\n460293\t464975\t所以我必須說啦其實如果在這裡的質詢能夠是就後面的意義層次來討論實在是會比較高端一點過兩天要舉行國中會考連國中會考都不考填充題跟是非題了我們現在都考素養素養這兩個字知道嗎好啦那部長我最後啦\n479642\t504777\t那個委員剛剛問的就是說那個把我們接受國際媒體系列撐撐的這個事情這個應該要做啦尤其是我對這個是相當的自豪就是接受國際媒體訪問到目前為止這個禮拜五還會再接受一次那一共是有328次你是代表著大家啦代表著台灣啦我帶領我們所有外交部的同仁集體對國際來發聲讓我們台灣的這個聲音能夠讓國際社會來聽見\n509861\t528699\t最後部長剛剛我看到你今天早上收到了禮物是台灣當季的水果乾這樣的狀況那我覺得那個看起來品牌我是沒有看過但現在正是芒果的季節芒果乾也是蠻好吃的但我覺得這其實大家等一下應該可以開來吃了\n529400\t553049\t因為有些密件可以開啊而且應該要拿出來趕快開趕快拿出來趕快吃掉它有些密件是不能開的這些大家應該都很清楚基本的公務人員也都很清楚上面有個那麼大的一個字叫做密的那種叫密件開了會有問題此密件非彼密件啊所以我勸那個等一下大家那密件應該蠻好吃的可以趕快吃一吃而且喔\n553809\t553989\t謝謝部長,加油\n","txt":"主席 請吳部長\n部長好部長今天特別到國防外交因為是您在任期上最後一次到立法院備詢那其實國防外交尤其是在您領導的外交部門真的這8年來確實是做了非常非常多的努力當然這不只是部長一個人的努力這是全體外交部外交相關領域的各位所有同仁共同的努力\n所以才有今天我們有資格有機會有能耐可以說一聲啊我們真的讓世界看見台灣世界的關鍵字一定有台灣我相信部長你一定認同我這句話你帶領了一個了不起的團隊是吧\n非常謝謝委員的肯定那的確最近這幾年如果說除了這些外交的挫折之外不管是國際社會上面什麼重要的這種高峰會幾乎沒有例外都會提到我們台灣那在國際的這種重要的場合台海的和平穩定也都是大家共同的這個語言所以對於這種努力的這個結果我們同仁大家都感到非常的欣慰\n2016年我剛剛有這個機會來到立法院的時候那個時候我們從不敢想像會有如此多的國會議員議長訪問團到立法院來做國會的交流與參訪我們也不敢相信世界上的期刊拿到了這些台灣講到了台灣的時候是會講到台灣的產業台灣的文化台灣能夠對世界衛生做出的種種貢獻這些都是我們過去不敢想像的\n我們更不會想到說這個美國這麼重要的亞太駐親會直接在公開的場合上面說聯合國的決議中國解讀有錯誤其實台灣是應該有機會可以參加WHA這些都是我們過去不敢想的\n那這些真的都是外交同仁方方面面的努力而且我在這裡呢也必須說其實在外交事務上面各位外交同仁你們在承平時期但是領導的帶領的其實就是國家的尊嚴你們在外交場域上捍衛了我們自己的國家就等同於是在戰場上的三軍將士一樣因為有你們的守護\n所以我們的軍人不用真正到第一線的戰場謝謝大家的辛勞你們交到的朋友越多台灣就越安全這是今天在這裡部長最後一次備詢我藉著跟部長的對話也再一次感謝全體所有包括基層外交部同仁真的真的非常的感謝大家\n因為我知道大家其實尤其是在部內也好到了部外每三年一派有些人是攜家帶眷孩子太太不適應外面的環境有些人是拋妻棄子拋夫棄子也可以啦但總而言之每一個人的辛勞\n國人在適當的時候其實回過頭來看都知道謝謝外交部因為不只是大的國家處境甚至是每一個國人在國外遇到急難的時候我們處理過多少的急難救助有多少國人在外面護照掉了臨時生病了受傷了\n﹚蘇巧慧﹚\n我必須說因為基於這樣的感謝所以當我聽到這個在國防外交委員會的質詢質詢與備詢之間的題目是這樣的時候我感到蠻不可思議的我以為國會殿堂上面的質詢應該是更有水準比如說部長我現在問你部長請問外交部有幾個社外交部經營有幾個社群媒體\n還不少臉書推特部長我問你具體的請給我數字部長你的stress有多少粉絲了我還不確定部長這是公開資訊你為什麼沒有掌握呢是不是這樣這是需要嗎部長我認為我應該問的是部長在現在這個時代外交部是不是應該經營社群媒體社群媒體對國家的外交影響力到底有多少你可以回答我們嗎\n非常謝謝委員提出來以推特來說因為推特是以國際為面向以國際為導向的一個社交媒體我們的推特到目前為止已經有五十幾萬個追蹤者我們外交部的這些追蹤者來說很多都是政治人物和國際的媒體\n如果說他們追我們的話你剛是上一次中國禁台灣啤酒這篇我覺得你們的回應就非常好在社群平台上面社群平台上本來就應該用幽默的方式回應嘛中國禁台灣啤酒你們就說你們錯過了自由美好的滋味很好啊這個所有的人一看就知道這是什麼意思就跟你今天說你用強烈的語氣說我一定跟你站到底欸真的就像剛剛楚映委員說的啊\n這個人家在群眾場上可以這樣說啊我們在幽默的社群平台上不能這樣寫哇這真的是雙標啊這實在是雙標那老實說因為社群媒體讓我們的能見度擴大之後確實台灣的訴求那各個外媒也都可以看到所以部長我真的真的強烈的建議喔不管是在這些社群網路的發言發文也好\n蘇巧慧議員\n這部分我覺得不是你個人的成績所以我覺得你不用不好意思這個是你代表國家我認為應該要收集陳冊部長這是立法委員的質詢你可以同意嗎非常謝謝委員的這個建議那我們這邊來跟同仁討論一下\n在今天早上剛發生的一件事情就是說我前天有那個總統政訓給我那我也發在那個我們的推特上面捷克的參議長在那個message下面有留言那這個就是我們臺灣政府跟其他國家的這個高層利用社群媒體互動的一個很好的這個機會那這個是可以強化我們的public 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