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South，也就是全球南方的這些國家數量算是相當龐大，為了讓我們接下來能順利參與世界衛生組織，我們也跟一些友盟國家，尤其是美國，都有定期針對國際組織的參與進行討論，像美國或是其他友盟國家對於我們的參與都非常支持，也在想辦法結合更多理念相近的國家來力挺我們，在過去這段時間，我們看到支持我們的這些國家，不管是用發言的方式、聯合逕洽的方式或是用聯名函的方式，這些國家是愈來愈多、層級是愈來愈高。另外，有很多國家的國會議員對我們臺灣的參與也是非常支持，他們用決議案的方式或者是聯名函的方式，我們都可以感受得到，所以接下來如果有更多國家支持我們的話，我相信我們到最後要參與應該會水到渠成。"],["黃委員秀芳：好，其實臺灣沒辦法參加WHA也是世界的損失，我們看到臺灣在醫療方面做得非常好，尤其在公共衛生的區塊是世界有目共睹的，在這幾年疫情期間，Taiwan Can 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00:02:16,780\n為了要讓我們接下來能夠順利的參與世界衛生組織那我們也跟這些有盟國家尤其是美國都有定期的針對國際組織的這個參與來進行討論那像美國或者是說其他的一些有盟國家對於我們的參與他們也都非常的支持也在想辦法去結合更多的這些理念向近國家來力挺我們\n\n7\n00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:44,168\n在過去這段時間我們看到支持我們的這些國家不管是用這種發言的方式或者是聯合競洽的方式或者是說用聯名函的這種方式這個國家是越來越多成績是越來越高那另外也有很多的國家的這個國會議員他們對我們台灣的這個參與也是非常的支持他們用決議案的方式或者是聯名函的這個方式我們都可以感受得到\n\n8\n00:02:44,688 --> 00:03:12,261\n所以接下來如果說有更多的國家能夠支持我們的話我相信到最後我們要參與應該是會水到渠成其實台灣沒辦法來參加這個WHA其實這個也是世界的損失啦其實我們看到台灣在這個醫療方面其實都做得非常的好尤其是在公衛公共衛生這個區塊其實是世界有目共睹的那在疫情這\n\n9\n00:03:13,181 --> 00:03:13,301\n李卓人議員\n\n10\n00:03:36,684 --> 00:03:37,405\n王秀芳議員\n\n11\n00:03:51,581 --> 00:04:13,122\n医疗或者是有公衛背景的这些非常优秀的这些人才可以透过民间的力量民间的组织来参与那我是请教部长未来你是到国安会当秘书长那我相信未来的部长应该也可以再继续延续下去那我是不是可以先请教部长未来我们要怎么做\n\n12\n00:04:14,402 --> 00:04:36,616\n有關於跟那個NGO一些民間團體的這個合作這個都是一致的這個方向那我們這邊的這種協助是不遺餘力所以有一些民間團體他們希望能夠協助政府來參與我們都提供他們一些必要的這些協助那像那個我們臺灣醫師會接下來的我們的那個衛福部長\n\n13\n00:04:37,296 --> 00:05:01,648\n他本身就是台灣醫師會的這種非常重要的幹部那之前我跟他之間的那個合作關係也是非常的密切要確保說我們台灣醫師會能夠在我們參與世界衛生組織的這個過程當中能夠扮演重要的這種角色和力量那我想這種精神會持續下去畢竟這個就是我們台灣在全世界各地能夠展現的一個最好的一個力量是\n\n14\n00:05:02,869 --> 00:05:17,508\n其實我覺得一般的民眾台灣一般的民眾會覺得說台灣確實在國際的這個地位要走出去有它的困難可是民間的力量確實是無窮的民間的力量可以透過NGO的這個組織然後讓台灣走出去\n\n15\n00:05:20,672 --> 00:05:20,933\n黃秀芳議員\n\n16\n00:05:36,249 --> 00:06:02,503\n那應該非邦交國其實像美國、英國、日本、韓國其實都跟我們沒有邦交可是跟我們都有很好的互動那也這個衍生出來可能就非邦交國的這樣另外一個出路的另外一種模式就是另外一種的合作模式那我想請教就是說未來怎麼樣透過這些我們跟他雖然是沒有邦交可是我們還是\n\n17\n00:06:03,964 --> 00:06:17,353\n在他們的那邊有設辦事處在他們的國家有設辦事處那要怎麼樣去互相去合作那也讓他認同台灣那我們互相合作那另外我還有看到就是說立陶宛的這個\n\n18\n00:06:20,656 --> 00:06:37,715\n看到台灣代表處,我們現在是駐立陶宛的台灣代表處,那因為他們目前正在競選的關係,那也許會不會原本駐立陶宛的台灣代表處會不會被更名?我是不是可以先請教一下部長?\n\n19\n00:06:39,017 --> 00:06:57,794\n謝謝委員先回答第二個問題就是有關於立陶宛的部分的確他們現在是總統的選舉然後10月還會有一個國會議員的選舉在選舉的時候民主國家各式各樣的議題都會退出來目前他們的總統有提過好幾次不同的說法\n\n20\n00:06:59,495 --> 00:07:17,899\n我們也會密切的關注但是有關於我們跟他們之間的這個協議涉及到我們的那個代表處的名稱這個是一個很嚴肅的這個兩國之間的這個協議那這個權利應該是在他們的內閣手上那到目前為止我們看不出來說他們內閣會針對這個事情有所討論那相反的\n\n21\n00:07:22,141 --> 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South就是全球南方的這些國家的數量算是相當的龐大\n為了要讓我們接下來能夠順利的參與世界衛生組織那我們也跟這些有盟國家尤其是美國都有定期的針對國際組織的這個參與來進行討論那像美國或者是說其他的一些有盟國家對於我們的參與他們也都非常的支持也在想辦法去結合更多的這些理念向近國家來力挺我們\n在過去這段時間我們看到支持我們的這些國家不管是用這種發言的方式或者是聯合競洽的方式或者是說用聯名函的這種方式這個國家是越來越多成績是越來越高那另外也有很多的國家的這個國會議員他們對我們台灣的這個參與也是非常的支持他們用決議案的方式或者是聯名函的這個方式我們都可以感受得到\n所以接下來如果說有更多的國家能夠支持我們的話我相信到最後我們要參與應該是會水到渠成其實台灣沒辦法來參加這個WHA其實這個也是世界的損失啦其實我們看到台灣在這個醫療方面其實都做得非常的好尤其是在公衛公共衛生這個區塊其實是世界有目共睹的那在疫情這\n李卓人議員\n王秀芳議員\n医疗或者是有公衛背景的这些非常优秀的这些人才可以透过民间的力量民间的组织来参与那我是请教部长未来你是到国安会当秘书长那我相信未来的部长应该也可以再继续延续下去那我是不是可以先请教部长未来我们要怎么做\n有關於跟那個NGO一些民間團體的這個合作這個都是一致的這個方向那我們這邊的這種協助是不遺餘力所以有一些民間團體他們希望能夠協助政府來參與我們都提供他們一些必要的這些協助那像那個我們臺灣醫師會接下來的我們的那個衛福部長\n他本身就是台灣醫師會的這種非常重要的幹部那之前我跟他之間的那個合作關係也是非常的密切要確保說我們台灣醫師會能夠在我們參與世界衛生組織的這個過程當中能夠扮演重要的這種角色和力量那我想這種精神會持續下去畢竟這個就是我們台灣在全世界各地能夠展現的一個最好的一個力量是\n其實我覺得一般的民眾台灣一般的民眾會覺得說台灣確實在國際的這個地位要走出去有它的困難可是民間的力量確實是無窮的民間的力量可以透過NGO的這個組織然後讓台灣走出去\n黃秀芳議員\n那應該非邦交國其實像美國、英國、日本、韓國其實都跟我們沒有邦交可是跟我們都有很好的互動那也這個衍生出來可能就非邦交國的這樣另外一個出路的另外一種模式就是另外一種的合作模式那我想請教就是說未來怎麼樣透過這些我們跟他雖然是沒有邦交可是我們還是\n在他們的那邊有設辦事處在他們的國家有設辦事處那要怎麼樣去互相去合作那也讓他認同台灣那我們互相合作那另外我還有看到就是說立陶宛的這個\n看到台灣代表處,我們現在是駐立陶宛的台灣代表處,那因為他們目前正在競選的關係,那也許會不會原本駐立陶宛的台灣代表處會不會被更名?我是不是可以先請教一下部長?\n謝謝委員先回答第二個問題就是有關於立陶宛的部分的確他們現在是總統的選舉然後10月還會有一個國會議員的選舉在選舉的時候民主國家各式各樣的議題都會退出來目前他們的總統有提過好幾次不同的說法\n我們也會密切的關注但是有關於我們跟他們之間的這個協議涉及到我們的那個代表處的名稱這個是一個很嚴肅的這個兩國之間的這個協議那這個權利應該是在他們的內閣手上那到目前為止我們看不出來說他們內閣會針對這個事情有所討論那相反的\n即使是未來可能成為執政黨的目前的反對黨他們在這個議題上面他們也非常力挺跟台灣之間的這個關係所以這個事情要請國人放心說接下來應該是不會有任何的變動\n第二個問題也是涉及到就是原來的第一個問題那這涉及到過去這幾年之間我們外交部的這個努力我們都知道那個中國對於我們的這個邦交國的這個部分就是花了很多的力氣用了很多的這些資源\n黃秀芳議員\n韓國瑜\n在國際的重要場合我們台灣也成為一個重要的關鍵字也就是大家在重要的聚會的時候都會提到臺海的和平穩定非常重要關乎全球的和平與繁榮那這個就是我們努力的這個方向讓全世界看到我們台灣的美好那這個方向我們會持續下去\n謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.069 --> 00:00.370\n請部長委員你好\n\n00:10.636 --> 00:16.418\n今天有好幾個團體針對我們要參加WHA的記者會台灣有21個醫師團體今天召開記者會我們從2017年一直到現在邁入第8年我們都一直沒辦法參與WHA我相信很多人都可以\n\n00:38.865 --> 01:02.740\n我非常了解是因為中國的打壓造成台灣沒辦法來參加這個WHA的這樣的世界衛生大會那我想這個外交部應該也做過很多的努力當然中國的打壓是無所不在任何形式的這個打壓那我們也看到就是說美國\n\n01:04.622 --> 01:31.121\n國務卿布林肯也公開的鼓勵還有支持可是這一屆我們還是沒有收到邀請函我想請教部長針對這一部分因為5月27號就要召開大會我想請教外交部或者是今天也有衛福部我們國際合作組也有過來我想請教外交部在這方面我們要怎麼去突破\n\n01:32.465 --> 01:50.630\n非常謝謝委員有關於我們參加世界衛生組織這是一條蠻艱辛的一條道路尤其是中國在國際組織裡面他們所能夠動員的GlobalSouth就是全球南方的這些國家的數量算是相當的龐大\n\n01:52.190 --> 02:16.780\n為了要讓我們接下來能夠順利的參與世界衛生組織那我們也跟這些有盟國家尤其是美國都有定期的針對國際組織的這個參與來進行討論那像美國或者是說其他的一些有盟國家對於我們的參與他們也都非常的支持也在想辦法去結合更多的這些理念向近國家來力挺我們\n\n02:17.700 --> 02:44.168\n在過去這段時間我們看到支持我們的這些國家不管是用這種發言的方式或者是聯合競洽的方式或者是說用聯名函的這種方式這個國家是越來越多成績是越來越高那另外也有很多的國家的這個國會議員他們對我們台灣的這個參與也是非常的支持他們用決議案的方式或者是聯名函的這個方式我們都可以感受得到\n\n02:44.688 --> 03:12.261\n所以接下來如果說有更多的國家能夠支持我們的話我相信到最後我們要參與應該是會水到渠成其實台灣沒辦法來參加這個WHA其實這個也是世界的損失啦其實我們看到台灣在這個醫療方面其實都做得非常的好尤其是在公衛公共衛生這個區塊其實是世界有目共睹的那在疫情這\n\n03:13.181 --> 03:13.301\n李卓人議員\n\n03:36.684 --> 03:37.405\n王秀芳議員\n\n03:51.581 --> 04:13.122\n医疗或者是有公衛背景的这些非常优秀的这些人才可以透过民间的力量民间的组织来参与那我是请教部长未来你是到国安会当秘书长那我相信未来的部长应该也可以再继续延续下去那我是不是可以先请教部长未来我们要怎么做\n\n04:14.402 --> 04:36.616\n有關於跟那個NGO一些民間團體的這個合作這個都是一致的這個方向那我們這邊的這種協助是不遺餘力所以有一些民間團體他們希望能夠協助政府來參與我們都提供他們一些必要的這些協助那像那個我們臺灣醫師會接下來的我們的那個衛福部長\n\n04:37.296 --> 05:01.648\n他本身就是台灣醫師會的這種非常重要的幹部那之前我跟他之間的那個合作關係也是非常的密切要確保說我們台灣醫師會能夠在我們參與世界衛生組織的這個過程當中能夠扮演重要的這種角色和力量那我想這種精神會持續下去畢竟這個就是我們台灣在全世界各地能夠展現的一個最好的一個力量是\n\n05:02.869 --> 05:17.508\n其實我覺得一般的民眾台灣一般的民眾會覺得說台灣確實在國際的這個地位要走出去有它的困難可是民間的力量確實是無窮的民間的力量可以透過NGO的這個組織然後讓台灣走出去\n\n05:20.672 --> 05:20.933\n黃秀芳議員\n\n05:36.249 --> 06:02.503\n那應該非邦交國其實像美國、英國、日本、韓國其實都跟我們沒有邦交可是跟我們都有很好的互動那也這個衍生出來可能就非邦交國的這樣另外一個出路的另外一種模式就是另外一種的合作模式那我想請教就是說未來怎麼樣透過這些我們跟他雖然是沒有邦交可是我們還是\n\n06:03.964 --> 06:17.353\n在他們的那邊有設辦事處在他們的國家有設辦事處那要怎麼樣去互相去合作那也讓他認同台灣那我們互相合作那另外我還有看到就是說立陶宛的這個\n\n06:20.656 --> 06:37.715\n看到台灣代表處,我們現在是駐立陶宛的台灣代表處,那因為他們目前正在競選的關係,那也許會不會原本駐立陶宛的台灣代表處會不會被更名?我是不是可以先請教一下部長?\n\n06:39.017 --> 06:57.794\n謝謝委員先回答第二個問題就是有關於立陶宛的部分的確他們現在是總統的選舉然後10月還會有一個國會議員的選舉在選舉的時候民主國家各式各樣的議題都會退出來目前他們的總統有提過好幾次不同的說法\n\n06:59.495 --> 07:17.899\n我們也會密切的關注但是有關於我們跟他們之間的這個協議涉及到我們的那個代表處的名稱這個是一個很嚴肅的這個兩國之間的這個協議那這個權利應該是在他們的內閣手上那到目前為止我們看不出來說他們內閣會針對這個事情有所討論那相反的\n\n07:22.141 --> 07:36.842\n即使是未來可能成為執政黨的目前的反對黨他們在這個議題上面他們也非常力挺跟台灣之間的這個關係所以這個事情要請國人放心說接下來應該是不會有任何的變動\n\n07:38.616 --> 07:54.799\n第二個問題也是涉及到就是原來的第一個問題那這涉及到過去這幾年之間我們外交部的這個努力我們都知道那個中國對於我們的這個邦交國的這個部分就是花了很多的力氣用了很多的這些資源\n\n07:55.620 --> 07:55.660\n黃秀芳議員\n\n08:10.558 --> 08:10.578\n韓國瑜\n\n08:40.858 --> 09:01.580\n在國際的重要場合我們台灣也成為一個重要的關鍵字也就是大家在重要的聚會的時候都會提到臺海的和平穩定非常重要關乎全球的和平與繁榮那這個就是我們努力的這個方向讓全世界看到我們台灣的美好那這個方向我們會持續下去\n\n09:02.401 --> 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South就是全球南方的這些國家的數量算是相當的龐大"},{"start":112.19,"end":136.78,"text":"為了要讓我們接下來能夠順利的參與世界衛生組織那我們也跟這些有盟國家尤其是美國都有定期的針對國際組織的這個參與來進行討論那像美國或者是說其他的一些有盟國家對於我們的參與他們也都非常的支持也在想辦法去結合更多的這些理念向近國家來力挺我們"},{"start":137.7,"end":164.168,"text":"在過去這段時間我們看到支持我們的這些國家不管是用這種發言的方式或者是聯合競洽的方式或者是說用聯名函的這種方式這個國家是越來越多成績是越來越高那另外也有很多的國家的這個國會議員他們對我們台灣的這個參與也是非常的支持他們用決議案的方式或者是聯名函的這個方式我們都可以感受得到"},{"start":164.688,"end":192.261,"text":"所以接下來如果說有更多的國家能夠支持我們的話我相信到最後我們要參與應該是會水到渠成其實台灣沒辦法來參加這個WHA其實這個也是世界的損失啦其實我們看到台灣在這個醫療方面其實都做得非常的好尤其是在公衛公共衛生這個區塊其實是世界有目共睹的那在疫情這"},{"start":193.181,"end":193.301,"text":"李卓人議員"},{"start":216.684,"end":217.405,"text":"王秀芳議員"},{"start":231.581,"end":253.122,"text":"医疗或者是有公衛背景的这些非常优秀的这些人才可以透过民间的力量民间的组织来参与那我是请教部长未来你是到国安会当秘书长那我相信未来的部长应该也可以再继续延续下去那我是不是可以先请教部长未来我们要怎么做"},{"start":254.402,"end":276.616,"text":"有關於跟那個NGO一些民間團體的這個合作這個都是一致的這個方向那我們這邊的這種協助是不遺餘力所以有一些民間團體他們希望能夠協助政府來參與我們都提供他們一些必要的這些協助那像那個我們臺灣醫師會接下來的我們的那個衛福部長"},{"start":277.296,"end":301.648,"text":"他本身就是台灣醫師會的這種非常重要的幹部那之前我跟他之間的那個合作關係也是非常的密切要確保說我們台灣醫師會能夠在我們參與世界衛生組織的這個過程當中能夠扮演重要的這種角色和力量那我想這種精神會持續下去畢竟這個就是我們台灣在全世界各地能夠展現的一個最好的一個力量是"},{"start":302.869,"end":317.508,"text":"其實我覺得一般的民眾台灣一般的民眾會覺得說台灣確實在國際的這個地位要走出去有它的困難可是民間的力量確實是無窮的民間的力量可以透過NGO的這個組織然後讓台灣走出去"},{"start":320.672,"end":320.933,"text":"黃秀芳議員"},{"start":336.249,"end":362.503,"text":"那應該非邦交國其實像美國、英國、日本、韓國其實都跟我們沒有邦交可是跟我們都有很好的互動那也這個衍生出來可能就非邦交國的這樣另外一個出路的另外一種模式就是另外一種的合作模式那我想請教就是說未來怎麼樣透過這些我們跟他雖然是沒有邦交可是我們還是"},{"start":363.964,"end":377.353,"text":"在他們的那邊有設辦事處在他們的國家有設辦事處那要怎麼樣去互相去合作那也讓他認同台灣那我們互相合作那另外我還有看到就是說立陶宛的這個"},{"start":380.656,"end":397.715,"text":"看到台灣代表處,我們現在是駐立陶宛的台灣代表處,那因為他們目前正在競選的關係,那也許會不會原本駐立陶宛的台灣代表處會不會被更名?我是不是可以先請教一下部長?"},{"start":399.017,"end":417.794,"text":"謝謝委員先回答第二個問題就是有關於立陶宛的部分的確他們現在是總統的選舉然後10月還會有一個國會議員的選舉在選舉的時候民主國家各式各樣的議題都會退出來目前他們的總統有提過好幾次不同的說法"},{"start":419.495,"end":437.899,"text":"我們也會密切的關注但是有關於我們跟他們之間的這個協議涉及到我們的那個代表處的名稱這個是一個很嚴肅的這個兩國之間的這個協議那這個權利應該是在他們的內閣手上那到目前為止我們看不出來說他們內閣會針對這個事情有所討論那相反的"},{"start":442.141,"end":456.842,"text":"即使是未來可能成為執政黨的目前的反對黨他們在這個議題上面他們也非常力挺跟台灣之間的這個關係所以這個事情要請國人放心說接下來應該是不會有任何的變動"},{"start":458.616,"end":474.799,"text":"第二個問題也是涉及到就是原來的第一個問題那這涉及到過去這幾年之間我們外交部的這個努力我們都知道那個中國對於我們的這個邦交國的這個部分就是花了很多的力氣用了很多的這些資源"},{"start":475.62,"end":475.66,"text":"黃秀芳議員"},{"start":490.558,"end":490.578,"text":"韓國瑜"},{"start":520.858,"end":541.58,"text":"在國際的重要場合我們台灣也成為一個重要的關鍵字也就是大家在重要的聚會的時候都會提到臺海的和平穩定非常重要關乎全球的和平與繁榮那這個就是我們努力的這個方向讓全世界看到我們台灣的美好那這個方向我們會持續下去"},{"start":542.401,"end":542.421,"text":"謝謝委員"}]}}}}