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00:01:01,502\n等現在記得上個月18號在內政會審查地方制度法本席提案你增加制定離島基本法的法源依據時,國發會的書面報告這樣寫他說因應離島地區居民需要,過往離島建設條例陸續已辦理\n\n5\n00:01:07,731 --> 00:01:34,901\n十二次修法工作未來離島地區特殊發展可以適時辦理修訂以充實完備對離島地區發展的扶持及對離島居民的照顧。」國會醫師就說沒有必要訂這個離島計劃只要適時的修正這個離島建設條例即可但是這麼多年來不管金門、馬祖鵬或是其他離島縣的立委所提出來的這修法草案我看國會沒有同意的也沒有提出行政院版的\n\n6\n00:01:35,481 --> 00:01:36,682\n案：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：\n\n7\n00:02:00,871 --> 00:02:15,871\n我要強調的是這個金馬棚跟這個離島跟台灣本島在先天的發展不管資源交通人力物資各方面都有很大的這個落差那為什麼要針對這個離島建設條還有制定離島金馬這是一個基本的原因今天國發會呢\n\n8\n00:02:17,913 --> 00:02:24,417\n第一不支持制定離島基本法,第二又對離島建設條例的修法在否決。」那我真的很想請問這個離島這個主管機關就是我們國發會有沒有真心的在為離島的發展做思考其實本期針對這個離島建設條例還有許多的提案還會一一的再送進來包括最近金門的我想請問國發會知道最近金門縣會有提相關的這個\n\n9\n00:02:41,766 --> 00:02:56,735\n條例第十三條條文修法的建議或相關的建議。」我等一下問一下國會,到底你們知道離島金門在想什麼?最近金門的縣議員在提自由貿易港區醫藥特區營業稅、零稅率、土地增益、重大民生物資進口免營業稅。到時候本縣還會再一一的提出來喔。\n\n10\n00:02:57,895 --> 00:03:21,404\n所以今天的提案說明重點本期說明如下第一個將消防及建設及完善殯葬設施列入這個離島綜合建設實施方案的這個內容國安會剛剛說這些本來就有列入實施計畫當中不需要修正本期要強調的是當不明文規定時這些項目就會變成是非必要的項目案子要不要通過呢都還要來看我們審查委員的臉色\n\n11\n00:03:22,304 --> 00:03:22,524\n案並且擬具\n\n12\n00:03:38,549 --> 00:03:56,804\n在地需求提出這個綜合發展計畫及重建計畫裡頭的這個權利,這個主要是因為目前離島建設計畫裡頭的重大建設投資計畫都要是中央主管機關認定的重要產業投資或是交由民間機構辦理公共建設計畫,但是我要說的是\n\n13\n00:03:57,725 --> 00:04:12,337\n中央對地方的需求有時候不大辛苦而且我發現在場的許多我真的想知道這個國發會裡頭在場許多做決定的、做決策的到底有多少人真正去過金門或者真正住過金門在那裡真正了解我們當地這個民眾的這個需求有時候你們從台灣本島的觀點來看金門來看我們這些離島的縣市事實上是從我不好意思說就是從天元農國的觀點來看我們的離島縣市事實上你們對我們的發展\n\n14\n00:04:25,868 --> 00:04:33,055\n案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、\n\n15\n00:04:44,487 --> 00:05:02,530\n銀業人給予減徵25%銀索罪法案依據,同時每十年滾動檢討,另外對於國外進口用於公共事業的貨物、勞務、免徵、營業稅、關稅。這個部分是因為在全台灣各個縣市所有的民生用的東西比如說水\n\n16\n00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:02,970\n案。\n\n17\n00:05:33,891 --> 00:05:58,711\n案包括我們補助國立金門大學我們補助部立金門醫院我們補助所有在那邊就學的學子不管是台灣過來還是金門當地的所有的費用我們付的費用我們所自己承擔的費用遠遠跟中央給我們的費用是跟我們的經費是差不多的很多中央該付的錢中央都要求金門縣政府自己出我們自己出也就罷了\n\n18\n00:05:58,951 --> 00:06:14,404\n我們今天要求有更好的政策或者是給我們鬆綁但中央政府在今天我看到國發會剛剛的很多回答都還是說這個不是那個不是我想這個是非常的不能體恤這個離島縣市這個民情我想今天的這個各位同仁\n\n19\n00:06:14,864 --> 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。\n20887\t31610\t整體來說離島建設條例從民國108年4月26日修訂第十條之後契機已經超過五年沒有做任何的修訂然後行政院自從民國104年\n33331\t51588\t提案徵修第九之三條以後已經超過十年沒有做任何徵修條文的提案這當中並不是沒有人提出來不管是金門、馬祖鵬還有其他離島鄉的這個立委提出來的各項離島建設條例的修法都被今天在場的主管的這個國發會一一的打回票\n52409\t61502\t等現在記得上個月18號在內政會審查地方制度法本席提案你增加制定離島基本法的法源依據時,國發會的書面報告這樣寫他說因應離島地區居民需要,過往離島建設條例陸續已辦理\n67731\t94901\t十二次修法工作未來離島地區特殊發展可以適時辦理修訂以充實完備對離島地區發展的扶持及對離島居民的照顧。」國會醫師就說沒有必要訂這個離島計劃只要適時的修正這個離島建設條例即可但是這麼多年來不管金門、馬祖鵬或是其他離島縣的立委所提出來的這修法草案我看國會沒有同意的也沒有提出行政院版的\n95481\t96682\t案：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：\n120871\t135871\t我要強調的是這個金馬棚跟這個離島跟台灣本島在先天的發展不管資源交通人力物資各方面都有很大的這個落差那為什麼要針對這個離島建設條還有制定離島金馬這是一個基本的原因今天國發會呢\n137913\t144417\t第一不支持制定離島基本法,第二又對離島建設條例的修法在否決。」那我真的很想請問這個離島這個主管機關就是我們國發會有沒有真心的在為離島的發展做思考其實本期針對這個離島建設條例還有許多的提案還會一一的再送進來包括最近金門的我想請問國發會知道最近金門縣會有提相關的這個\n161766\t176735\t條例第十三條條文修法的建議或相關的建議。」我等一下問一下國會,到底你們知道離島金門在想什麼?最近金門的縣議員在提自由貿易港區醫藥特區營業稅、零稅率、土地增益、重大民生物資進口免營業稅。到時候本縣還會再一一的提出來喔。\n177895\t201404\t所以今天的提案說明重點本期說明如下第一個將消防及建設及完善殯葬設施列入這個離島綜合建設實施方案的這個內容國安會剛剛說這些本來就有列入實施計畫當中不需要修正本期要強調的是當不明文規定時這些項目就會變成是非必要的項目案子要不要通過呢都還要來看我們審查委員的臉色\n202304\t202524\t案 並且擬具\n218549\t236804\t在地需求提出這個綜合發展計畫及重建計畫裡頭的這個權利,這個主要是因為目前離島建設計畫裡頭的重大建設投資計畫都要是中央主管機關認定的重要產業投資或是交由民間機構辦理公共建設計畫,但是我要說的是\n237725\t252337\t中央對地方的需求有時候不大辛苦而且我發現在場的許多我真的想知道這個國發會裡頭在場許多做決定的、做決策的到底有多少人真正去過金門或者真正住過金門在那裡真正了解我們當地這個民眾的這個需求有時候你們從台灣本島的觀點來看金門來看我們這些離島的縣市事實上是從我不好意思說就是從天元農國的觀點來看我們的離島縣市事實上你們對我們的發展\n265868\t273055\t案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、\n284487\t302530\t銀業人給予減徵25%銀索罪法案依據,同時每十年滾動檢討,另外對於國外進口用於公共事業的貨物、勞務、免徵、營業稅、關稅。這個部分是因為在全台灣各個縣市所有的民生用的東西比如說水\n302950\t302970\t案 。\n333891\t358711\t案 包括我們補助國立金門大學我們補助部立金門醫院我們補助所有在那邊就學的學子不管是台灣過來還是金門當地的所有的費用我們付的費用我們所自己承擔的費用遠遠跟中央給我們的費用是跟我們的經費是差不多的很多中央該付的錢中央都要求金門縣政府自己出我們自己出也就罷了\n358951\t374404\t我們今天要求有更好的政策或者是給我們鬆綁但中央政府在今天我看到國發會剛剛的很多回答都還是說這個不是那個不是我想這個是非常的不能體恤這個離島縣市這個民情我想今天的這個各位同仁\n374864\t401878\t今天這個修法希望各位同仁可以支持我想很多人我每次在看到這個原住民在修法的時候不管是哪一個黨哪一個派的這個同仁都非常的支持我們在中華民國憲法裡頭事實上也有規定金馬地區的這個金馬地區的這個憲政上的權利事項跟原住民必須要一致有一致平等的這個權利我希望各位同仁也可以秉持著將心比心的立場支持我們的離島縣市的提案謝謝好謝謝\n","txt":"案 。\n整體來說離島建設條例從民國108年4月26日修訂第十條之後契機已經超過五年沒有做任何的修訂然後行政院自從民國104年\n提案徵修第九之三條以後已經超過十年沒有做任何徵修條文的提案這當中並不是沒有人提出來不管是金門、馬祖鵬還有其他離島鄉的這個立委提出來的各項離島建設條例的修法都被今天在場的主管的這個國發會一一的打回票\n等現在記得上個月18號在內政會審查地方制度法本席提案你增加制定離島基本法的法源依據時,國發會的書面報告這樣寫他說因應離島地區居民需要,過往離島建設條例陸續已辦理\n十二次修法工作未來離島地區特殊發展可以適時辦理修訂以充實完備對離島地區發展的扶持及對離島居民的照顧。」國會醫師就說沒有必要訂這個離島計劃只要適時的修正這個離島建設條例即可但是這麼多年來不管金門、馬祖鵬或是其他離島縣的立委所提出來的這修法草案我看國會沒有同意的也沒有提出行政院版的\n案：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：\n我要強調的是這個金馬棚跟這個離島跟台灣本島在先天的發展不管資源交通人力物資各方面都有很大的這個落差那為什麼要針對這個離島建設條還有制定離島金馬這是一個基本的原因今天國發會呢\n第一不支持制定離島基本法,第二又對離島建設條例的修法在否決。」那我真的很想請問這個離島這個主管機關就是我們國發會有沒有真心的在為離島的發展做思考其實本期針對這個離島建設條例還有許多的提案還會一一的再送進來包括最近金門的我想請問國發會知道最近金門縣會有提相關的這個\n條例第十三條條文修法的建議或相關的建議。」我等一下問一下國會,到底你們知道離島金門在想什麼?最近金門的縣議員在提自由貿易港區醫藥特區營業稅、零稅率、土地增益、重大民生物資進口免營業稅。到時候本縣還會再一一的提出來喔。\n所以今天的提案說明重點本期說明如下第一個將消防及建設及完善殯葬設施列入這個離島綜合建設實施方案的這個內容國安會剛剛說這些本來就有列入實施計畫當中不需要修正本期要強調的是當不明文規定時這些項目就會變成是非必要的項目案子要不要通過呢都還要來看我們審查委員的臉色\n案 並且擬具\n在地需求提出這個綜合發展計畫及重建計畫裡頭的這個權利,這個主要是因為目前離島建設計畫裡頭的重大建設投資計畫都要是中央主管機關認定的重要產業投資或是交由民間機構辦理公共建設計畫,但是我要說的是\n中央對地方的需求有時候不大辛苦而且我發現在場的許多我真的想知道這個國發會裡頭在場許多做決定的、做決策的到底有多少人真正去過金門或者真正住過金門在那裡真正了解我們當地這個民眾的這個需求有時候你們從台灣本島的觀點來看金門來看我們這些離島的縣市事實上是從我不好意思說就是從天元農國的觀點來看我們的離島縣市事實上你們對我們的發展\n案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、\n銀業人給予減徵25%銀索罪法案依據,同時每十年滾動檢討,另外對於國外進口用於公共事業的貨物、勞務、免徵、營業稅、關稅。這個部分是因為在全台灣各個縣市所有的民生用的東西比如說水\n案 。\n案 包括我們補助國立金門大學我們補助部立金門醫院我們補助所有在那邊就學的學子不管是台灣過來還是金門當地的所有的費用我們付的費用我們所自己承擔的費用遠遠跟中央給我們的費用是跟我們的經費是差不多的很多中央該付的錢中央都要求金門縣政府自己出我們自己出也就罷了\n我們今天要求有更好的政策或者是給我們鬆綁但中央政府在今天我看到國發會剛剛的很多回答都還是說這個不是那個不是我想這個是非常的不能體恤這個離島縣市這個民情我想今天的這個各位同仁\n今天這個修法希望各位同仁可以支持我想很多人我每次在看到這個原住民在修法的時候不管是哪一個黨哪一個派的這個同仁都非常的支持我們在中華民國憲法裡頭事實上也有規定金馬地區的這個金馬地區的這個憲政上的權利事項跟原住民必須要一致有一致平等的這個權利我希望各位同仁也可以秉持著將心比心的立場支持我們的離島縣市的提案謝謝好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:00.109\n案。\n\n00:20.887 --> 00:31.610\n整體來說離島建設條例從民國108年4月26日修訂第十條之後契機已經超過五年沒有做任何的修訂然後行政院自從民國104年\n\n00:33.331 --> 00:51.588\n提案徵修第九之三條以後已經超過十年沒有做任何徵修條文的提案這當中並不是沒有人提出來不管是金門、馬祖鵬還有其他離島鄉的這個立委提出來的各項離島建設條例的修法都被今天在場的主管的這個國發會一一的打回票\n\n00:52.409 --> 01:01.502\n等現在記得上個月18號在內政會審查地方制度法本席提案你增加制定離島基本法的法源依據時,國發會的書面報告這樣寫他說因應離島地區居民需要,過往離島建設條例陸續已辦理\n\n01:07.731 --> 01:34.901\n十二次修法工作未來離島地區特殊發展可以適時辦理修訂以充實完備對離島地區發展的扶持及對離島居民的照顧。」國會醫師就說沒有必要訂這個離島計劃只要適時的修正這個離島建設條例即可但是這麼多年來不管金門、馬祖鵬或是其他離島縣的立委所提出來的這修法草案我看國會沒有同意的也沒有提出行政院版的\n\n01:35.481 --> 01:36.682\n案：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：\n\n02:00.871 --> 02:15.871\n我要強調的是這個金馬棚跟這個離島跟台灣本島在先天的發展不管資源交通人力物資各方面都有很大的這個落差那為什麼要針對這個離島建設條還有制定離島金馬這是一個基本的原因今天國發會呢\n\n02:17.913 --> 02:24.417\n第一不支持制定離島基本法,第二又對離島建設條例的修法在否決。」那我真的很想請問這個離島這個主管機關就是我們國發會有沒有真心的在為離島的發展做思考其實本期針對這個離島建設條例還有許多的提案還會一一的再送進來包括最近金門的我想請問國發會知道最近金門縣會有提相關的這個\n\n02:41.766 --> 02:56.735\n條例第十三條條文修法的建議或相關的建議。」我等一下問一下國會,到底你們知道離島金門在想什麼?最近金門的縣議員在提自由貿易港區醫藥特區營業稅、零稅率、土地增益、重大民生物資進口免營業稅。到時候本縣還會再一一的提出來喔。\n\n02:57.895 --> 03:21.404\n所以今天的提案說明重點本期說明如下第一個將消防及建設及完善殯葬設施列入這個離島綜合建設實施方案的這個內容國安會剛剛說這些本來就有列入實施計畫當中不需要修正本期要強調的是當不明文規定時這些項目就會變成是非必要的項目案子要不要通過呢都還要來看我們審查委員的臉色\n\n03:22.304 --> 03:22.524\n案並且擬具\n\n03:38.549 --> 03:56.804\n在地需求提出這個綜合發展計畫及重建計畫裡頭的這個權利,這個主要是因為目前離島建設計畫裡頭的重大建設投資計畫都要是中央主管機關認定的重要產業投資或是交由民間機構辦理公共建設計畫,但是我要說的是\n\n03:57.725 --> 04:12.337\n中央對地方的需求有時候不大辛苦而且我發現在場的許多我真的想知道這個國發會裡頭在場許多做決定的、做決策的到底有多少人真正去過金門或者真正住過金門在那裡真正了解我們當地這個民眾的這個需求有時候你們從台灣本島的觀點來看金門來看我們這些離島的縣市事實上是從我不好意思說就是從天元農國的觀點來看我們的離島縣市事實上你們對我們的發展\n\n04:25.868 --> 04:33.055\n案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、第十三條條文修正草案、\n\n04:44.487 --> 05:02.530\n銀業人給予減徵25%銀索罪法案依據,同時每十年滾動檢討,另外對於國外進口用於公共事業的貨物、勞務、免徵、營業稅、關稅。這個部分是因為在全台灣各個縣市所有的民生用的東西比如說水\n\n05:02.950 --> 05:02.970\n案。\n\n05:33.891 --> 05:58.711\n案包括我們補助國立金門大學我們補助部立金門醫院我們補助所有在那邊就學的學子不管是台灣過來還是金門當地的所有的費用我們付的費用我們所自己承擔的費用遠遠跟中央給我們的費用是跟我們的經費是差不多的很多中央該付的錢中央都要求金門縣政府自己出我們自己出也就罷了\n\n05:58.951 --> 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