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00:00:47,364\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會\n\n3\n00:00:48,985 --> 00:01:11,975\n在這個行政院洗鞋房子辦公室的報告裡面平均詐欺犯最所得每年高達的700億元。700億元我想也深刻的影響了我國的經濟金融秩序。另外在三十九條之四裡面也包含了以電腦合成或其他科技方法製作關於他人的不實影像。我想隨著AI科技的發展之後\n\n4\n00:01:12,515 --> 00:01:21,818\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n\n5\n00:01:30,100 --> 00:01:38,024\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及\n\n6\n00:01:55,251 --> 00:02:01,380\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法\n\n7\n00:02:11,235 --> 00:02:15,120\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n\n8\n00:02:28,755 --> 00:02:38,217\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第11會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會\n\n9\n00:02:53,681 --> 00:03:13,940\n政官世界各民主先進國家對於詐欺罪的判刑其實遠遠超過臺灣許多所以我想臺灣要擠身先進民主國家之列要徹底的解決嚴懲詐欺問題就應該提高刑法在後端在追究責任的時候對於詐欺犯罪要提高他的罪責\n\n10\n00:03:14,580 --> 00:03:21,443\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員徐巧芯等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n11536\t27768\t主席各位委員本期今天提出的是也是刑法339條之四修正草案主要也是針對這個詐欺罪我們希望從一年以上七年以下有期徒刑提高到三年以上十年以下有期徒刑\n28388\t47364\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會\n48985\t71975\t在這個行政院洗鞋房子辦公室的報告裡面平均詐欺犯最所得每年高達的700億元。700億元我想也深刻的影響了我國的經濟金融秩序。另外在三十九條之四裡面也包含了以電腦合成或其他科技方法製作關於他人的不實影像。我想隨著AI科技的發展之後\n72515\t81818\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n90100\t98024\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及\n115251\t121380\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法\n131235\t135120\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n148755\t158217\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第11會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會\n173681\t193940\t政官世界各民主先進國家對於詐欺罪的判刑其實遠遠超過臺灣許多所以我想臺灣要擠身先進民主國家之列要徹底的解決嚴懲詐欺問題就應該提高刑法在後端在追究責任的時候對於詐欺犯罪要提高他的罪責\n194580\t201443\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員徐巧芯等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n","txt":"主席各位委員本期今天提出的是也是刑法339條之四修正草案主要也是針對這個詐欺罪我們希望從一年以上七年以下有期徒刑提高到三年以上十年以下有期徒刑\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會主席等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會\n在這個行政院洗鞋房子辦公室的報告裡面平均詐欺犯最所得每年高達的700億元。700億元我想也深刻的影響了我國的經濟金融秩序。另外在三十九條之四裡面也包含了以電腦合成或其他科技方法製作關於他人的不實影像。我想隨著AI科技的發展之後\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等18人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第11會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會\n政官世界各民主先進國家對於詐欺罪的判刑其實遠遠超過臺灣許多所以我想臺灣要擠身先進民主國家之列要徹底的解決嚴懲詐欺問題就應該提高刑法在後端在追究責任的時候對於詐欺犯罪要提高他的罪責\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員徐巧芯等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.536 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