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00:00:38,969\n委員早次長早次長最近監察院有一個說要啟動調查要調查什麼呢就是說我們的保健食品的關稅過高說高達百分之三十比汽車還要高所以已經有監察委員申請自動調查這個案子呢其實這個議題討論了非常久\n\n3\n00:00:41,351 --> 00:01:05,703\n但是現在有監委自請調查我想請問一下市長我們財政部的回應是什麼因為這樣子的話一定是來跟我們財政部來了解嘛我想可能相關人一定都會被監委去約談所以財政部如何因應財政部的回應是什麼第一點就是說關於目前的維他命的這個稅率現在是30%這個是我們進WTO的一個承諾的稅率\n\n4\n00:01:10,765 --> 00:01:36,539\n那這一部分在將來稅率要不要繼續降這個要尊重我們主管機關的意見那目前經濟部給我們的意見是說目前假定在這個繼續降的話可能會影響到嚴重影響到國內的相關的產業甚至撤出的這種狀況他說如果要降那就要逐步慢慢的降還要跟這個業者慢慢的溝通然後看有沒有機會來有個空間慢慢來降\n\n5\n00:01:37,259 --> 00:02:00,171\n所以就財政部來說因為我有注意到財政部也曾經針對稅收的部分說會減少稅收12億左右也有表達好像是反對的意見所以我想請問次長就說按照監察院調查現在越來越關切這個議題您剛講的是經濟部的意見那財政部的意見是什麼\n\n6\n00:02:01,128 --> 00:02:27,563\n基本上這個稅率的問題我們都是主管機關在做決定那他去評估所以財政部不會反對我們基本上不會反對所以我這邊可以總結由經濟部自行去評估會不會針對我們的本土產業造成衝擊但是財政部針對稅收會不會損失等等我們不會因為這個理由而採取反對的意見是嗎\n\n7\n00:02:28,223 --> 00:02:44,760\n因為它涉及的稅收不是太大啦我待會就會講其實呢我們因為以為可以收到稅但是事實上呢因為我們現在市面上大家知道非常多很多代購事實上我們還少收到稅好再來看\n\n8\n00:02:46,901 --> 00:03:12,207\n這個議題其實大家討論了非常久那當然很多都會把世界各國的關稅拿來做比較如果你攤開跟我們的鄰國或者是美國歐盟或者中國大陸你可以看到我們的保健食品的稅率確實比其他國家都要高而且高得多所以剛剛講說如果這是我們加入WTO是不是\n\n9\n00:03:13,271 --> 00:03:28,592\n對,我們當時的承諾的稅率可是WTO就是一個世界的準則如果世界各國的保健食品的關稅的稅率都沒有這麼高那沒有道理會要求台灣你要採取這麼高的一個關稅壁壘啊\n\n10\n00:03:29,713 --> 00:03:41,527\n所以剛才我也跟委員報告就是說我們主管機關其實他也有鬆口啦他說其實如果要降的話是說不能夠就是等於是說急劇的往下降大家要降了嗎降10%降15%降一半\n\n11\n00:03:45,452 --> 00:03:49,716\n本土業者當然希望說有關稅來保護他但是我們要考慮到整個的世界各國的稅率尤其消費者因為消費者會越來越反彈\n\n12\n00:04:09,516 --> 00:04:36,554\n我們剛剛講說差那麼多人家在美國一顆才兩塊八不到三塊錢我們台灣將七塊錢對不對那消費者會覺得說你今天是不是在撥水我們消費者然後去補貼本土業者因為我們現在本土業確實也非常的多呀是不是好那所以如果以這個主管機關願意逐步調降那你們現在所談論的逐步調降是分兩階段還是分三階段\n\n13\n00:04:37,454 --> 00:04:52,918\n這個我們要看主管機關他的做法跟他的想法那基本上我覺得最重要就是說如果將來萬利降稅了最重要就是說這降稅的利益要回饋到消費者所以很重要這是很重要的一點因為你降稅之後你的這個價格就要隨之調降啊\n\n14\n00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,722\n包括委員雖然我是不是把今天委員的意見我帶回去齁我們跟主法機關反映啦好不好齁\n\n15\n00:05:15,812 --> 00:05:32,947\n你們可不可以跟我講一下大概你們多久的時間可以有一個定論因為這個東西主導權真的不在我們手上如果我們主導的我們就可以回答了因為馬上520之後新的經濟部長也上任了新的這些官員\n\n16\n00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:49,081\n我們來看其實這個就是我說因為瞭解很清楚嘛因為我們在網路上其實有很多代購的那最後我們反而課不到稅好另外要請教一個蠻重要的問題就是我們也有特別提高就是我們的入境免稅額\n\n17\n00:05:50,382 --> 00:06:10,821\n也是討論非常久大家都覺得兩萬塊早就不合時宜了對不對那現在呢你們是準備提高到三萬五對三萬五確定了嗎確定了已經預告了應該六月份就可以發布那什麼時候可以實施應該六月應該是六月六月就可以可以從六月一號開始嗎\n\n18\n00:06:12,542 --> 00:06:18,146\n應該是6月,大概6月中,因為預告要期滿才能夠發布,時間點反正就6月,1號跟15號我覺得差距已經不大了。\n\n19\n00:06:30,033 --> 00:06:48,146\n我是覺得因為一般來講我們七八月因為也是暑假的旺季那可以讓我們廣大的這個民眾我相信在六月以後去出國旅遊的人一定會非常非常多可能回國內的人也很多那在這樣的狀況之下能夠盡快的讓我們享受到可以這個入境的免稅額能夠調高\n\n20\n00:06:56,693 --> 00:07:12,031\n另外的部分就是3萬5雖然我們從2萬塊提高到3萬5這個條幅算是蠻高的可是問題是因為它很多年很多年都沒有條然後再加上我們也都會提到說臺灣的甚至講說臺灣的實質購買力已經超越日本跟韓國\n\n21\n00:07:17,577 --> 00:07:23,264\n韓國的免稅額也是偏低日本和台北大概是4萬多我們特別大方一點調高到4萬\n\n22\n00:07:31,913 --> 00:07:33,835\n所以你們現在3萬5就是確定的事情\n\n23\n00:07:58,536 --> 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我們跟主法機關反映啦好不好齁\n315812\t332947\t你們可不可以跟我講一下大概你們多久的時間可以有一個定論因為這個東西主導權真的不在我們手上如果我們主導的我們就可以回答了因為馬上520之後新的經濟部長也上任了新的這些官員\n333867\t349081\t我們來看其實這個就是我說因為瞭解很清楚嘛因為我們在網路上其實有很多代購的那最後我們反而課不到稅好另外要請教一個蠻重要的問題就是我們也有特別提高就是我們的入境免稅額\n350382\t370821\t也是討論非常久大家都覺得兩萬塊早就不合時宜了對不對那現在呢你們是準備提高到三萬五對三萬五確定了嗎確定了已經預告了應該六月份就可以發布那什麼時候可以實施應該六月應該是六月六月就可以可以從六月一號開始嗎\n372542\t378146\t應該是6月,大概6月中,因為預告要期滿才能夠發布,時間點反正就6月,1號跟15號我覺得差距已經不大了。\n390033\t408146\t我是覺得因為一般來講我們七八月因為也是暑假的旺季那可以讓我們廣大的這個民眾我相信在六月以後去出國旅遊的人一定會非常非常多可能回國內的人也很多那在這樣的狀況之下能夠盡快的讓我們享受到可以這個入境的免稅額能夠調高\n416693\t432031\t另外的部分就是3萬5雖然我們從2萬塊提高到3萬5這個條幅算是蠻高的可是問題是因為它很多年很多年都沒有條然後再加上我們也都會提到說臺灣的甚至講說臺灣的實質購買力已經超越日本跟韓國\n437577\t443264\t韓國的免稅額也是偏低日本和台北大概是4萬多我們特別大方一點調高到4萬\n451913\t453835\t所以你們現在3萬5就是確定的事情\n478536\t478676\t王鴻薇\n","txt":"主席\n委員早次長早次長最近監察院有一個說要啟動調查要調查什麼呢就是說我們的保健食品的關稅過高說高達百分之三十比汽車還要高所以已經有監察委員申請自動調查這個案子呢其實這個議題討論了非常久\n但是現在有監委自請調查我想請問一下市長我們財政部的回應是什麼因為這樣子的話一定是來跟我們財政部來了解嘛我想可能相關人一定都會被監委去約談所以財政部如何因應財政部的回應是什麼第一點就是說關於目前的維他命的這個稅率現在是30%這個是我們進WTO的一個承諾的稅率\n那這一部分在將來稅率要不要繼續降這個要尊重我們主管機關的意見那目前經濟部給我們的意見是說目前假定在這個繼續降的話可能會影響到嚴重影響到國內的相關的產業甚至撤出的這種狀況他說如果要降那就要逐步慢慢的降還要跟這個業者慢慢的溝通然後看有沒有機會來有個空間慢慢來降\n所以就財政部來說因為我有注意到財政部也曾經針對稅收的部分說會減少稅收12億左右也有表達好像是反對的意見所以我想請問次長就說按照監察院調查現在越來越關切這個議題您剛講的是經濟部的意見那財政部的意見是什麼\n基本上這個稅率的問題我們都是主管機關在做決定那他去評估所以財政部不會反對我們基本上不會反對所以我這邊可以總結由經濟部自行去評估會不會針對我們的本土產業造成衝擊但是財政部針對稅收會不會損失等等我們不會因為這個理由而採取反對的意見是嗎\n因為它涉及的稅收不是太大啦我待會就會講其實呢我們因為以為可以收到稅但是事實上呢因為我們現在市面上大家知道非常多很多代購事實上我們還少收到稅好再來看\n這個議題其實大家討論了非常久那當然很多都會把世界各國的關稅拿來做比較如果你攤開跟我們的鄰國或者是美國歐盟或者中國大陸你可以看到我們的保健食品的稅率確實比其他國家都要高而且高得多所以剛剛講說如果這是我們加入WTO是不是\n對,我們當時的承諾的稅率可是WTO就是一個世界的準則如果世界各國的保健食品的關稅的稅率都沒有這麼高那沒有道理會要求台灣你要採取這麼高的一個關稅壁壘啊\n所以剛才我也跟委員報告就是說我們主管機關其實他也有鬆口啦他說其實如果要降的話是說不能夠就是等於是說急劇的往下降大家要降了嗎降10%降15%降一半\n本土業者當然希望說有關稅來保護他但是我們要考慮到整個的世界各國的稅率尤其消費者因為消費者會越來越反彈\n我們剛剛講說差那麼多人家在美國一顆才兩塊八不到三塊錢我們台灣將七塊錢對不對那消費者會覺得說你今天是不是在撥水我們消費者然後去補貼本土業者因為我們現在本土業確實也非常的多呀是不是好那所以如果以這個主管機關願意逐步調降那你們現在所談論的逐步調降是分兩階段還是分三階段\n這個我們要看主管機關他的做法跟他的想法那基本上我覺得最重要就是說如果將來萬利降稅了最重要就是說這降稅的利益要回饋到消費者所以很重要這是很重要的一點因為你降稅之後你的這個價格就要隨之調降啊\n包括委員 雖然我是不是把今天委員的意見我帶回去齁 我們跟主法機關反映啦好不好齁\n你們可不可以跟我講一下大概你們多久的時間可以有一個定論因為這個東西主導權真的不在我們手上如果我們主導的我們就可以回答了因為馬上520之後新的經濟部長也上任了新的這些官員\n我們來看其實這個就是我說因為瞭解很清楚嘛因為我們在網路上其實有很多代購的那最後我們反而課不到稅好另外要請教一個蠻重要的問題就是我們也有特別提高就是我們的入境免稅額\n也是討論非常久大家都覺得兩萬塊早就不合時宜了對不對那現在呢你們是準備提高到三萬五對三萬五確定了嗎確定了已經預告了應該六月份就可以發布那什麼時候可以實施應該六月應該是六月六月就可以可以從六月一號開始嗎\n應該是6月,大概6月中,因為預告要期滿才能夠發布,時間點反正就6月,1號跟15號我覺得差距已經不大了。\n我是覺得因為一般來講我們七八月因為也是暑假的旺季那可以讓我們廣大的這個民眾我相信在六月以後去出國旅遊的人一定會非常非常多可能回國內的人也很多那在這樣的狀況之下能夠盡快的讓我們享受到可以這個入境的免稅額能夠調高\n另外的部分就是3萬5雖然我們從2萬塊提高到3萬5這個條幅算是蠻高的可是問題是因為它很多年很多年都沒有條然後再加上我們也都會提到說臺灣的甚至講說臺灣的實質購買力已經超越日本跟韓國\n韓國的免稅額也是偏低日本和台北大概是4萬多我們特別大方一點調高到4萬\n所以你們現在3萬5就是確定的事情\n王鴻薇\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.803 --> 00:04.984\n主席\n\n00:14.250 --> 00:38.969\n委員早次長早次長最近監察院有一個說要啟動調查要調查什麼呢就是說我們的保健食品的關稅過高說高達百分之三十比汽車還要高所以已經有監察委員申請自動調查這個案子呢其實這個議題討論了非常久\n\n00:41.351 --> 01:05.703\n但是現在有監委自請調查我想請問一下市長我們財政部的回應是什麼因為這樣子的話一定是來跟我們財政部來了解嘛我想可能相關人一定都會被監委去約談所以財政部如何因應財政部的回應是什麼第一點就是說關於目前的維他命的這個稅率現在是30%這個是我們進WTO的一個承諾的稅率\n\n01:10.765 --> 01:36.539\n那這一部分在將來稅率要不要繼續降這個要尊重我們主管機關的意見那目前經濟部給我們的意見是說目前假定在這個繼續降的話可能會影響到嚴重影響到國內的相關的產業甚至撤出的這種狀況他說如果要降那就要逐步慢慢的降還要跟這個業者慢慢的溝通然後看有沒有機會來有個空間慢慢來降\n\n01:37.259 --> 02:00.171\n所以就財政部來說因為我有注意到財政部也曾經針對稅收的部分說會減少稅收12億左右也有表達好像是反對的意見所以我想請問次長就說按照監察院調查現在越來越關切這個議題您剛講的是經濟部的意見那財政部的意見是什麼\n\n02:01.128 --> 02:27.563\n基本上這個稅率的問題我們都是主管機關在做決定那他去評估所以財政部不會反對我們基本上不會反對所以我這邊可以總結由經濟部自行去評估會不會針對我們的本土產業造成衝擊但是財政部針對稅收會不會損失等等我們不會因為這個理由而採取反對的意見是嗎\n\n02:28.223 --> 02:44.760\n因為它涉及的稅收不是太大啦我待會就會講其實呢我們因為以為可以收到稅但是事實上呢因為我們現在市面上大家知道非常多很多代購事實上我們還少收到稅好再來看\n\n02:46.901 --> 03:12.207\n這個議題其實大家討論了非常久那當然很多都會把世界各國的關稅拿來做比較如果你攤開跟我們的鄰國或者是美國歐盟或者中國大陸你可以看到我們的保健食品的稅率確實比其他國家都要高而且高得多所以剛剛講說如果這是我們加入WTO是不是\n\n03:13.271 --> 03:28.592\n對,我們當時的承諾的稅率可是WTO就是一個世界的準則如果世界各國的保健食品的關稅的稅率都沒有這麼高那沒有道理會要求台灣你要採取這麼高的一個關稅壁壘啊\n\n03:29.713 --> 03:41.527\n所以剛才我也跟委員報告就是說我們主管機關其實他也有鬆口啦他說其實如果要降的話是說不能夠就是等於是說急劇的往下降大家要降了嗎降10%降15%降一半\n\n03:45.452 --> 03:49.716\n本土業者當然希望說有關稅來保護他但是我們要考慮到整個的世界各國的稅率尤其消費者因為消費者會越來越反彈\n\n04:09.516 --> 04:36.554\n我們剛剛講說差那麼多人家在美國一顆才兩塊八不到三塊錢我們台灣將七塊錢對不對那消費者會覺得說你今天是不是在撥水我們消費者然後去補貼本土業者因為我們現在本土業確實也非常的多呀是不是好那所以如果以這個主管機關願意逐步調降那你們現在所談論的逐步調降是分兩階段還是分三階段\n\n04:37.454 --> 04:52.918\n這個我們要看主管機關他的做法跟他的想法那基本上我覺得最重要就是說如果將來萬利降稅了最重要就是說這降稅的利益要回饋到消費者所以很重要這是很重要的一點因為你降稅之後你的這個價格就要隨之調降啊\n\n04:59.600 --> 05:01.722\n包括委員雖然我是不是把今天委員的意見我帶回去齁我們跟主法機關反映啦好不好齁\n\n05:15.812 --> 05:32.947\n你們可不可以跟我講一下大概你們多久的時間可以有一個定論因為這個東西主導權真的不在我們手上如果我們主導的我們就可以回答了因為馬上520之後新的經濟部長也上任了新的這些官員\n\n05:33.867 --> 05:49.081\n我們來看其實這個就是我說因為瞭解很清楚嘛因為我們在網路上其實有很多代購的那最後我們反而課不到稅好另外要請教一個蠻重要的問題就是我們也有特別提高就是我們的入境免稅額\n\n05:50.382 --> 06:10.821\n也是討論非常久大家都覺得兩萬塊早就不合時宜了對不對那現在呢你們是準備提高到三萬五對三萬五確定了嗎確定了已經預告了應該六月份就可以發布那什麼時候可以實施應該六月應該是六月六月就可以可以從六月一號開始嗎\n\n06:12.542 --> 06:18.146\n應該是6月,大概6月中,因為預告要期滿才能夠發布,時間點反正就6月,1號跟15號我覺得差距已經不大了。\n\n06:30.033 --> 06:48.146\n我是覺得因為一般來講我們七八月因為也是暑假的旺季那可以讓我們廣大的這個民眾我相信在六月以後去出國旅遊的人一定會非常非常多可能回國內的人也很多那在這樣的狀況之下能夠盡快的讓我們享受到可以這個入境的免稅額能夠調高\n\n06:56.693 --> 07:12.031\n另外的部分就是3萬5雖然我們從2萬塊提高到3萬5這個條幅算是蠻高的可是問題是因為它很多年很多年都沒有條然後再加上我們也都會提到說臺灣的甚至講說臺灣的實質購買力已經超越日本跟韓國\n\n07:17.577 --> 07:23.264\n韓國的免稅額也是偏低日本和台北大概是4萬多我們特別大方一點調高到4萬\n\n07:31.913 --> 07:33.835\n所以你們現在3萬5就是確定的事情\n\n07:58.536 --> 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