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00:03:02,142\n離島建制條例第10條第2項您看喔這個有規定了齁澎湖金門馬祖離島蘭嶼等就是琉球這些離島齁這些地區營業人進口並於當地銷售之商品免徵關稅免稅項目及施法是財政部訂的吧是這個這個次長跟署長都了解吧你看這個辦法民國89年後99年修正過一次齁公佈的這個免徵關稅齁320項是320項是是\n\n9\n00:03:08,087 --> 00:03:14,715\n這個條文是同時限定離營業人進口並於當地銷售之商品可以免關稅,用意是什麼?\n\n10\n00:03:16,925 --> 00:03:26,073\n這個當然就是發展離島的經濟,就是說在那邊消費才能夠振興離島的經濟。而且如果是說在那邊買,買以後再帶回來,也可以免稅。這個條文,這個法令在民國99年修訂到今天已經14個年頭了,有沒有檢討過?\n\n11\n00:03:42,325 --> 00:03:47,191\n有沒有檢討過?99年到現在?沒有檢討過?沒有檢討過?你有沒有統計過那個項目有320項?從開始實施到今天進口多少數量?跟我們金馬鵬這個離島的縣民真正的民生需求物資有沒有落差?\n\n12\n00:04:02,128 --> 00:04:06,313\n我們可能還在評估,但是如果,因為的確是時間過了蠻久,因為99年到現在,二十幾年了。如果是真的有需求的話,我是建議就是說是由我們金門縣政府這邊,就是把那個項目還有它的理由,\n\n13\n00:04:22,911 --> 00:04:39,697\n那麼就是送到我們的關務署那他就會邀請相關的機關關務署然後他邀請比如說像國發費市長說得很好喔那你看喔我給你看一下這個320項的免關稅商品在金門地區110年只有一項適用118年8項112年15項320項裡頭只有一項適用好你說要請地方政府提上來對吧對上來\n\n14\n00:04:48,300 --> 00:05:12,581\n但是我這邊沒辦法承諾說一定可以過但是最起碼就是說這個程序一定要走對金馬鵬三縣的縣政府在民國104年有提出過有啊104年就提出來修正免徵關稅品項及旅遊的會診表啊下文在哪裡呢這是金馬鵬你看三縣不只是我們這三縣剛好現在澎湖市民進黨執政金門市民眾黨執政馬祖市國民黨執政三黨都有\n\n15\n00:05:16,464 --> 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