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00:02:09,607\n所以如果去看去視察我們自己的中華民國的領土還有這些工程竣工以後他的設施是否完善還有去慰勞我們的住房的官兵這要誰的同意嗎\n\n7\n00:02:12,705 --> 00:02:18,306\n所以我不曉得今天我們不是菲律賓的國會議員要去看自己的國家的領土跟麻煩製造者有什麼關係到底在怕什麼或者要配合誰或者要聽誰的話\n\n8\n00:02:42,190 --> 00:03:03,484\n今天中非他們的衝突不是現在才發生,它隨時都在發生,那到底什麼時候可以去?這有什麼好質疑的?我覺得很奇怪,而且還把這個放大去檢視,只要監督民進黨政府,就叫抱習近平的大腿,要宣示中華民國的主權,叫麻煩製造者,這不是非常可笑嗎?\n\n9\n00:03:05,049 --> 00:03:12,239\n蔡英文總統為什麼要去慰勞官兵?為什麼有時候我們的工程好了以後大家要爭相去撿柴?為什麼太平島中華民國的領土沒有人敢去?我們去了,會是麻煩製造者,這不是笑話嗎?\n\n10\n00:03:25,465 --> 00:03:28,527\n國安局副局長,我們在媒體的報導上面,上週大陸國家安全部公布了一個消息,經由群眾陸續舉報\n\n11\n00:03:44,775 --> 00:04:12,061\n在大陸的海域發現很多種類型的海洋間諜這是在過去可能比較少有這樣子的一個資訊以前如果要偵測水文或什麼其實大概都是用一些水面艦艇或者偷偷的埋在海底下可是最近常常看到尤其在最近的這個報導裡面大陸的國安部說明這些特殊技術它是裝置隱藏在大海中\n\n12\n00:04:14,321 --> 00:04:41,723\n他時刻都可以窺探海洋的資訊數據威脅國安那大陸現在他們在這些專題裡面他公布了有些漁民在捕獲海上的竊密裝置的時候有了一些典型的案例那他們認為這個海洋間諜有一個共同的目的當然就是要從事於境外間諜情報機關的非法活動\n\n13\n00:04:42,964 --> 00:04:52,723\n他的類型大概分為三種,第一個是暗造型,就是長期可以潛伏在海底,可以隱蔽的採集周圍海洋水文資訊\n\n14\n00:04:54,486 --> 00:05:18,419\n還有各種各類船艦艦船活動的數據．可以預知在可能發生作戰的區域．第二個就是密探型．可以隨波漂流浮沉．偵測掌握海域的即時情況．然後第三種是水下燈塔型．這個是為了要侵入中國海域航行的他國潛艦指示方向．\n\n15\n00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:45,113\n所以他們這三種的這些海洋間諜現在可以看得到那中共國安部他擔憂的這個海洋間諜目前我國是不是也會遭受到海洋間諜的入侵因為我們的海域其實很近那就我們周邊其實我們也是海島型的國家面臨遼闊的海洋還有我們的海岸線也非常長那像目前中共解放軍機還有艦艇不斷的侵擾台灣\n\n16\n00:05:48,055 --> 00:05:50,016\n謝謝委員的指教中共國安部事實上在最近這幾個月不斷地在做一些強化反間諜的\n\n17\n00:06:10,903 --> 00:06:35,932\n各種案例的一種宣傳那事實上剛剛委員提醒的就是在我們周邊海域事實上本局也報告過這幾年來中共的科研船海釣船停留在台灣周邊海域的時間越來越長而且坦白跟各位報告事實上我們的漁民過去這幾年也曾經撈到一些\n\n18\n00:06:43,557 --> 00:07:01,109\n副議長,我現在說的是,因為這個不見得只有中共而已,因為中共找到的是他國對他們做的,而我們現在,所以你認為說我們也遭受到中共這樣子的一些海洋間諜的這樣的一個作為,那我們到底\n\n19\n00:07:02,410 --> 00:07:24,252\n這些裝備因為通過我們的海域進行相關我們海洋資訊數據的收集我相信也在進行當中,您的說法是這樣嗎?的確的確,因為中共對台灣周邊的這個水文環境的調查越來越密集,所以這種對它不管是\n\n20\n00:07:25,353 --> 00:07:42,952\n他表面上是科研但是事實上在戰時也可以當作一個戰場經營管理的數據資料庫那因為既然我們有掌握然後我們也知道我在這裡要請教國安局面臨海洋間諜這樣可能的威脅我們對於台灣相關的\n\n21\n00:07:44,454 --> 00:07:44,494\n﹚馬文君﹚\n\n22\n00:08:15,114 --> 00:08:40,908\n根本報告就是我們隨時在掌握這方面的情資對於中共的科研船、調查船在周邊海域的不是掌握啦因為它已經發生了嘛另外根本報告就是我們的海巡跟海軍尤其是海巡對於這個不明的一些水下的潛航器或是這個浮標這些也不斷的跟我們的相關的漁民也都有一些聯繫通報的一個機制\n\n23\n00:08:42,529 --> 00:09:09,617\n我們有捕獲過嗎?有撿到過嗎?有,跟委員報告有好幾次就是漁民提供給海巡署的那些都是寫那裡面有什麼資料?不是,它上面標示會有電話,你撿到的話請打這支電話必有重賞,類似這樣的就是我們的漁民曾經撈過交給海巡署的阿然後勒?\n\n24\n00:09:11,428 --> 00:09:16,499\n然後海巡當然會這個是不是軍事上的一些打電話\n\n25\n00:09:17,844 --> 00:09:21,626\n國安局是掌握我們整體國家安全不管你在情研各方面的收整其實都是非常重要的那既然現在他們覺得這是一個很大的威脅尤其我們現在不管我們在發展水面艦艇或潛艦等等其實周邊我們海域的這些相關的資訊是非常重要的現在海軍\n\n26\n00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,524\n是全世界大家都認為他的推動或者他的發展或者他的優異度其實是對整體作戰還有區域安全是有非常重要的一個影響那如果發生這樣的狀況我們只是請漁民打電話打電話然後我們聽不出來說後面怎麼樣我剛剛的兩個問題我再重複一次我們希望國安局就這個部分可以有一個更完整的一個回答跟他的處置作為\n\n27\n00:10:14,281 --> 00:10:18,742\n再交給我們委員會好不好第一個就是在面對這個海洋間諜可能的威脅以後對我們下轄臺灣相關的勤研單位可以採取什麼樣相關的措施來因應這是第一點第二個怎麼樣才能完善的防護臺灣周遭海域水下知情的這個安全不致遭受無端的收集或者\n\n28\n00:10:41,886 --> 00:10:42,026\n﹚馬文君﹚\n\n29\n00:11:05,464 --> 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03:03.484\n今天中非他們的衝突不是現在才發生,它隨時都在發生,那到底什麼時候可以去?這有什麼好質疑的?我覺得很奇怪,而且還把這個放大去檢視,只要監督民進黨政府,就叫抱習近平的大腿,要宣示中華民國的主權,叫麻煩製造者,這不是非常可笑嗎?\n\n03:05.049 --> 03:12.239\n蔡英文總統為什麼要去慰勞官兵?為什麼有時候我們的工程好了以後大家要爭相去撿柴?為什麼太平島中華民國的領土沒有人敢去?我們去了,會是麻煩製造者,這不是笑話嗎?\n\n03:25.465 --> 03:28.527\n國安局副局長,我們在媒體的報導上面,上週大陸國家安全部公布了一個消息,經由群眾陸續舉報\n\n03:44.775 --> 04:12.061\n在大陸的海域發現很多種類型的海洋間諜這是在過去可能比較少有這樣子的一個資訊以前如果要偵測水文或什麼其實大概都是用一些水面艦艇或者偷偷的埋在海底下可是最近常常看到尤其在最近的這個報導裡面大陸的國安部說明這些特殊技術它是裝置隱藏在大海中\n\n04:14.321 --> 04:41.723\n他時刻都可以窺探海洋的資訊數據威脅國安那大陸現在他們在這些專題裡面他公布了有些漁民在捕獲海上的竊密裝置的時候有了一些典型的案例那他們認為這個海洋間諜有一個共同的目的當然就是要從事於境外間諜情報機關的非法活動\n\n04:42.964 --> 04:52.723\n他的類型大概分為三種,第一個是暗造型,就是長期可以潛伏在海底,可以隱蔽的採集周圍海洋水文資訊\n\n04:54.486 --> 05:18.419\n還有各種各類船艦艦船活動的數據．可以預知在可能發生作戰的區域．第二個就是密探型．可以隨波漂流浮沉．偵測掌握海域的即時情況．然後第三種是水下燈塔型．這個是為了要侵入中國海域航行的他國潛艦指示方向．\n\n05:19.560 --> 05:45.113\n所以他們這三種的這些海洋間諜現在可以看得到那中共國安部他擔憂的這個海洋間諜目前我國是不是也會遭受到海洋間諜的入侵因為我們的海域其實很近那就我們周邊其實我們也是海島型的國家面臨遼闊的海洋還有我們的海岸線也非常長那像目前中共解放軍機還有艦艇不斷的侵擾台灣\n\n05:48.055 --> 05:50.016\n謝謝委員的指教中共國安部事實上在最近這幾個月不斷地在做一些強化反間諜的\n\n06:10.903 --> 06:35.932\n各種案例的一種宣傳那事實上剛剛委員提醒的就是在我們周邊海域事實上本局也報告過這幾年來中共的科研船海釣船停留在台灣周邊海域的時間越來越長而且坦白跟各位報告事實上我們的漁民過去這幾年也曾經撈到一些\n\n06:43.557 --> 07:01.109\n副議長,我現在說的是,因為這個不見得只有中共而已,因為中共找到的是他國對他們做的,而我們現在,所以你認為說我們也遭受到中共這樣子的一些海洋間諜的這樣的一個作為,那我們到底\n\n07:02.410 --> 07:24.252\n這些裝備因為通過我們的海域進行相關我們海洋資訊數據的收集我相信也在進行當中,您的說法是這樣嗎?的確的確,因為中共對台灣周邊的這個水文環境的調查越來越密集,所以這種對它不管是\n\n07:25.353 --> 07:42.952\n他表面上是科研但是事實上在戰時也可以當作一個戰場經營管理的數據資料庫那因為既然我們有掌握然後我們也知道我在這裡要請教國安局面臨海洋間諜這樣可能的威脅我們對於台灣相關的\n\n07:44.454 --> 07:44.494\n﹚馬文君﹚\n\n08:15.114 --> 08:40.908\n根本報告就是我們隨時在掌握這方面的情資對於中共的科研船、調查船在周邊海域的不是掌握啦因為它已經發生了嘛另外根本報告就是我們的海巡跟海軍尤其是海巡對於這個不明的一些水下的潛航器或是這個浮標這些也不斷的跟我們的相關的漁民也都有一些聯繫通報的一個機制\n\n08:42.529 --> 09:09.617\n我們有捕獲過嗎?有撿到過嗎?有,跟委員報告有好幾次就是漁民提供給海巡署的那些都是寫那裡面有什麼資料?不是,它上面標示會有電話,你撿到的話請打這支電話必有重賞,類似這樣的就是我們的漁民曾經撈過交給海巡署的阿然後勒?\n\n09:11.428 --> 09:16.499\n然後海巡當然會這個是不是軍事上的一些打電話\n\n09:17.844 --> 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