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00:02:34,878\n一、本院委員陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：事由：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：\n\n9\n00:02:58,206 --> 00:03:22,118\n所以是有調整的空間對不對因為基本上就是說其實我們再生能源的裝置容量其實還是維持相同的標準可是因為我們最近幾年來我們經濟發展的太快了所以它變成那個佔用電量大增所以它變成說分母變大分子是一樣的所以我們基本上再生能源20%的目標基本上就經濟部規劃來說2026年一定會確實的達成\n\n10\n00:03:27,281 --> 00:03:30,402\n案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案\n\n11\n00:03:53,570 --> 00:04:00,493\n案、五條條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、\n\n12\n00:04:22,862 --> 00:04:25,943\n案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案\n\n13\n00:04:52,589 --> 00:04:52,729\n案。」案。\n\n14\n00:05:15,621 --> 00:05:20,124\n案、第七條及第八條之一條文修正草案、第八條之一條文修正草案、第八條之一條文修正草案、\n\n15\n00:05:35,114 --> 00:05:39,456\n案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案\n\n16\n00:06:02,469 --> 00:06:02,489\n案。」\n\n17\n00:06:08,331 --> 00:06:08,771\n一、本院委員\n\n18\n00:06:36,451 --> 00:06:45,259\n四、本院委員陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十\n\n19\n00:07:02,015 --> 00:07:11,002\n我認為經濟部確保了一定是它會提供產業穩定而且充裕的電力,這個是政府的實質重點之一。因為我們不容許這樣的事情發生。\n\n20\n00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:40,929\n案件不容許,可是一直發生,光是我們桃園就發生四十幾次了,那本需要請教你就是最近這個合作董事長也是你們民進黨的這個智庫的副董童子賢特別就說了要追求2050年近年的轉型至少還要建置40GW的再生能電來換算等於\n\n21\n00:07:43,371 --> 00:08:07,117\n就是要整個臺灣都是要太陽能板才鋪設才有辦法做到這非常不實際所以本席在這邊要要求你們可以像比照臺灣可以比照芬蘭在這個停役的合一廠跟這個封存的核四廠的原子來建置第三代的這個壓水反應爐跟新型的這個核電廠它的安全係數跟它的發電這個效率\n\n22\n00:08:11,618 --> 00:08:14,443\n可以大大的提升,而渴望可以抑制這個電價,對不對?\n\n23\n00:08:16,577 --> 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--> 00:13.931\n我們請呂毅玲委員請做詢答。謝謝主席,請高副主委。我們再請高副主委。\n\n00:20.168 --> 00:46.156\n委員黃副主委今天你們拱族委去參加了陳建仁的內閣的行政院的最後一場的這個院會下個禮拜他就會成為行政院的秘書長也作為我們行政團隊跟產業之間的溝通橋樑跟整個統合協調各幕僚單位這個外界都帶抱著很大期待他接下來的表現但是國發會\n\n00:47.836 --> 01:06.578\n在這個四年的時間協助了蔡英文總統在規劃2050年的近鄰轉型的這個政策。副主委,即將上任的這個經濟部的這個準部長我們郭智輝部長他對於核電的一些說法,您知道嗎?\n\n01:08.791 --> 01:27.100\n他表示說核電若是要研議必須要經過全民的認同同時他也坦言說這個未來的新能源這個會作為半導體產業缺電的一個解方所以請問副主委\n\n01:27.840 --> 01:40.198\n這是不是透露出下一個我們的新政府對於能源政策有這個調整的空間而且你支持這個新的經濟部長的說法跟支持嗎?\n\n01:41.559 --> 02:02.711\n報告委員,我想新的內閣對於能源政策應該會有一個更創新而且更明確的一個做法,因為的確啦,就是因為我們現在其實隨著AI產業﹖所以對於能源政策有調整的空間嗎?這個說法你支持嗎?\n\n02:05.322 --> 02:30.576\n我應該就是我覺得人員政策應該都是要滾動調整的是所以要調整我本席為什麼會這樣子說就是在國發會2022年的3月帶著所有的相關部會正式的公布了臺灣2050年淨零碳排路徑跟我們整個政策的總說明希望2050年的能源配比可以達到再生能源在60%到70%\n\n02:32.717 --> 02:34.878\n一、本院委員陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：事由：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：事由：審查：\n\n02:58.206 --> 03:22.118\n所以是有調整的空間對不對因為基本上就是說其實我們再生能源的裝置容量其實還是維持相同的標準可是因為我們最近幾年來我們經濟發展的太快了所以它變成那個佔用電量大增所以它變成說分母變大分子是一樣的所以我們基本上再生能源20%的目標基本上就經濟部規劃來說2026年一定會確實的達成\n\n03:27.281 --> 03:30.402\n案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案\n\n03:53.570 --> 04:00.493\n案、五條條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、五條條之一條文修正草案、\n\n04:22.862 --> 04:25.943\n案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案\n\n04:52.589 --> 04:52.729\n案。」案。\n\n05:15.621 --> 05:20.124\n案、第七條及第八條之一條文修正草案、第八條之一條文修正草案、第八條之一條文修正草案、\n\n05:35.114 --> 05:39.456\n案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案\n\n06:02.469 --> 06:02.489\n案。」\n\n06:08.331 --> 06:08.771\n一、本院委員\n\n06:36.451 --> 06:45.259\n四、本院委員陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十三條條文修正草案：立法院陳玉珍等18人擬具:「離島建設條例第十\n\n07:02.015 --> 07:11.002\n我認為經濟部確保了一定是它會提供產業穩定而且充裕的電力,這個是政府的實質重點之一。因為我們不容許這樣的事情發生。\n\n07:18.629 --> 07:40.929\n案件不容許,可是一直發生,光是我們桃園就發生四十幾次了,那本需要請教你就是最近這個合作董事長也是你們民進黨的這個智庫的副董童子賢特別就說了要追求2050年近年的轉型至少還要建置40GW的再生能電來換算等於\n\n07:43.371 --> 08:07.117\n就是要整個臺灣都是要太陽能板才鋪設才有辦法做到這非常不實際所以本席在這邊要要求你們可以像比照臺灣可以比照芬蘭在這個停役的合一廠跟這個封存的核四廠的原子來建置第三代的這個壓水反應爐跟新型的這個核電廠它的安全係數跟它的發電這個效率\n\n08:11.618 --> 08:14.443\n可以大大的提升,而渴望可以抑制這個電價,對不對?\n\n08:16.577 --> 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