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00:00:41,041\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n\n4\n00:01:04,428 --> 00:01:06,750\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n\n5\n00:01:24,777 --> 00:01:50,776\n我想請教次長你說你昨天有說38次保外就醫都有審酌那當時台中監獄跟矯正署都參著醫療證明認為有助於他的醫療就是說他如果參加什麼民進黨週年慶的歡樂派對富坤崎委員問的這些不管是輔選活動外面的活動\n\n6\n00:01:52,142 --> 00:02:13,290\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條\n\n7\n00:02:18,376 --> 00:02:27,302\n三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．\n\n8\n00:02:46,227 --> 00:02:55,793\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n\n9\n00:03:05,801 --> 00:03:27,900\n關鍵是今天陳水扁前總統過去這麼多年法務部關於保外就醫的制度你覺得公平嗎對一般受刑人覺得公平嗎其他受刑人如果是今天陳水扁的狀態請問保外就醫還有可能繼續存在嗎其他受刑人舉個例子給我聽已經可以出庭已經可以上直播已經可以參與政治活動已經可以輔選了\n\n10\n00:03:30,595 --> 00:03:57,121\n我先問啦,保外就醫是有病就可以保外就醫嗎?是嗎?感冒發燒都可以嗎?打對了嘛。阿現在他的狀況有到無法醫治嗎?有嗎?沒有啦。那你舉一個例子嘛,陳水扁以外的例子舉一個給我聽嘛。保外就醫的體系現在是為陳水扁一個人更改了所有的一些過去這麼多年來保外就醫的做法。\n\n11\n00:03:58,437 --> 00:04:14,914\n公園報告事實上我們現在每年大概將近有三四百個人保外就醫你跟我講一個例子像陳水扁的例子保外就醫到現在這麼健健康康開開心心參加歡樂趴直播出庭還可以繼續保外就醫你講一個例子給我聽\n\n12\n00:04:16,391 --> 00:04:19,232\n二）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n\n13\n00:04:40,051 --> 00:04:42,632\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一\n\n14\n00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:29,971\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會\n\n15\n00:05:31,209 --> 00:05:59,443\n那我也再講一個例子有人可以像陳水扁這麼活潑健康然後在與身體健康因素停審10年的你講一個個案給我聽每個個案都有差別啦我幫你回答對不對你講一個個案給我聽不是這個是司法院審判的個案我當然知道你要講給司法院啦但是我今天是講給所有人聽嘛特色的問題蔡英文總統的職權那就算了啦\n\n16\n00:06:00,987 --> 00:06:07,309\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n\n17\n00:06:20,215 --> 00:06:45,242\n公園報告我們刑訴法294到298條到尤其298條有如果庭審原因消滅的話就要應繼續進行或者庭審原因早就消滅了啦那是法官他們要去決定當然啦這當然不關你的事啦但我也跟法官們呼籲啊庭審原因早就消滅了那接下來我想問一下齁你知道陳建業院長拍板打炸行動1.5是去年5月嘛對不對\n\n18\n00:06:47,213 --> 00:06:49,216\n五月然後六七月正十九條文修正草案案。\n\n19\n00:07:04,755 --> 00:07:12,003\n那我想請教您,您認為到目前為止這個打造行動綱領1.5號從2023年1月到5月的16799件到下半年就6月到12月成長到21485件?案件是增加還減少?\n\n20\n00:07:23,381 --> 00:07:46,181\n現在的案件數當然還在處在一個高原期沒有辦法立竿見影看到它立即的下降一下我是沒有錯越打越詐這才是今天一個問題那昨天我很高興賴清德總統當選人他舉了一個例子他講詐騙當然是現在詐騙真的是全民受苦對不對他講什麼例子他舉說前經濟部長尹啟明說他也被詐騙\n\n21\n00:07:47,602 --> 00:07:50,304\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n\n22\n00:08:08,308 --> 00:08:27,428\n有聽過吧?詐騙三百多萬,三百五十八萬啦。贏啟明是因為他兒子有人騙他說他兒子被綁架,他天下父母親非常心憂急切,所以被騙了一百二十萬。我就很好奇為什麼在新的總統當選人齁,要舉例,要舉贏啟明的例子,怎麼不舉翁伯忠的例子呢?\n\n23\n00:08:30,350 --> 00:08:37,195\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具\n\n24\n00:08:51,559 --> 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00:09:20,516\n所以不是今天我們這個刑法的刑度修正以後修改以後就萬事太平詐騙就煙消於散了拜託一下再努力一點好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2369\t20531\t主席有請次長好麻煩次長我也好次長想請教一下我們這兩天的那個會議其實都很重要為什麼我們的部長都不見了\n21401\t37419\t國人報告部長今天他是因為那個行政院會以及他的那個總辭的相關的流程昨天呢昨天他已經向這個招委有請假就是他昨天到我加了我幫媒體問啦因為媒體都等著想要聽聽看部長\n38240\t41041\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n64428\t66750\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n84777\t110776\t我想請教次長你說你昨天有說38次保外就醫都有審酌那當時台中監獄跟矯正署都參著醫療證明認為有助於他的醫療就是說他如果參加什麼民進黨週年慶的歡樂派對富坤崎委員問的這些不管是輔選活動外面的活動\n112142\t133290\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條\n138376\t147302\t三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．\n166227\t175793\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n185801\t207900\t關鍵是今天陳水扁前總統過去這麼多年法務部關於保外就醫的制度你覺得公平嗎對一般受刑人覺得公平嗎其他受刑人如果是今天陳水扁的狀態請問保外就醫還有可能繼續存在嗎其他受刑人舉個例子給我聽已經可以出庭已經可以上直播已經可以參與政治活動已經可以輔選了\n210595\t237121\t我先問啦,保外就醫是有病就可以保外就醫嗎?是嗎?感冒發燒都可以嗎?打對了嘛。阿現在他的狀況有到無法醫治嗎?有嗎?沒有啦。那你舉一個例子嘛,陳水扁以外的例子舉一個給我聽嘛。保外就醫的體系現在是為陳水扁一個人更改了所有的一些過去這麼多年來保外就醫的做法。\n238437\t254914\t公園報告事實上我們現在每年大概將近有三四百個人保外就醫你跟我講一個例子像陳水扁的例子保外就醫到現在這麼健健康康開開心心參加歡樂趴直播出庭還可以繼續保外就醫你講一個例子給我聽\n256391\t259232\t二）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n280051\t282632\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一\n308120\t329971\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會\n331209\t359443\t那我也再講一個例子有人可以像陳水扁這麼活潑健康然後在與身體健康因素停審10年的你講一個個案給我聽每個個案都有差別啦我幫你回答對不對你講一個個案給我聽不是這個是司法院審判的個案我當然知道你要講給司法院啦但是我今天是講給所有人聽嘛特色的問題蔡英文總統的職權那就算了啦\n360987\t367309\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n380215\t405242\t公園報告我們刑訴法294到298條到尤其298條有如果庭審原因消滅的話就要應繼續進行或者庭審原因早就消滅了啦那是法官他們要去決定當然啦這當然不關你的事啦但我也跟法官們呼籲啊庭審原因早就消滅了那接下來我想問一下齁你知道陳建業院長拍板打炸行動1.5是去年5月嘛對不對\n407213\t409216\t五月然後六七月正十九條文修正草案案。\n424755\t432003\t那我想請教您,您認為到目前為止這個打造行動綱領1.5號從2023年1月到5月的16799件到下半年就6月到12月成長到21485件?案件是增加還減少?\n443381\t466181\t現在的案件數當然還在處在一個高原期沒有辦法立竿見影看到它立即的下降一下我是沒有錯越打越詐這才是今天一個問題那昨天我很高興賴清德總統當選人他舉了一個例子他講詐騙當然是現在詐騙真的是全民受苦對不對他講什麼例子他舉說前經濟部長尹啟明說他也被詐騙\n467602\t470304\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n488308\t507428\t有聽過吧?詐騙三百多萬,三百五十八萬啦。贏啟明是因為他兒子有人騙他說他兒子被綁架,他天下父母親非常心憂急切,所以被騙了一百二十萬。我就很好奇為什麼在新的總統當選人齁,要舉例,要舉贏啟明的例子,怎麼不舉翁伯忠的例子呢?\n510350\t517195\t民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具\n531559\t536444\t刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n551570\t560516\t所以不是今天我們這個刑法的刑度修正以後修改以後就萬事太平詐騙就煙消於散了拜託一下再努力一點好謝謝\n","txt":"主席有請次長好麻煩次長我也好次長想請教一下我們這兩天的那個會議其實都很重要為什麼我們的部長都不見了\n國人報告部長今天他是因為那個行政院會以及他的那個總辭的相關的流程昨天呢昨天他已經向這個招委有請假就是他昨天到我加了我幫媒體問啦因為媒體都等著想要聽聽看部長\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n我想請教次長你說你昨天有說38次保外就醫都有審酌那當時台中監獄跟矯正署都參著醫療證明認為有助於他的醫療就是說他如果參加什麼民進黨週年慶的歡樂派對富坤崎委員問的這些不管是輔選活動外面的活動\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條\n三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n關鍵是今天陳水扁前總統過去這麼多年法務部關於保外就醫的制度你覺得公平嗎對一般受刑人覺得公平嗎其他受刑人如果是今天陳水扁的狀態請問保外就醫還有可能繼續存在嗎其他受刑人舉個例子給我聽已經可以出庭已經可以上直播已經可以參與政治活動已經可以輔選了\n我先問啦,保外就醫是有病就可以保外就醫嗎?是嗎?感冒發燒都可以嗎?打對了嘛。阿現在他的狀況有到無法醫治嗎?有嗎?沒有啦。那你舉一個例子嘛,陳水扁以外的例子舉一個給我聽嘛。保外就醫的體系現在是為陳水扁一個人更改了所有的一些過去這麼多年來保外就醫的做法。\n公園報告事實上我們現在每年大概將近有三四百個人保外就醫你跟我講一個例子像陳水扁的例子保外就醫到現在這麼健健康康開開心心參加歡樂趴直播出庭還可以繼續保外就醫你講一個例子給我聽\n二）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會第12會期司法及法制委員會\n那我也再講一個例子有人可以像陳水扁這麼活潑健康然後在與身體健康因素停審10年的你講一個個案給我聽每個個案都有差別啦我幫你回答對不對你講一個個案給我聽不是這個是司法院審判的個案我當然知道你要講給司法院啦但是我今天是講給所有人聽嘛特色的問題蔡英文總統的職權那就算了啦\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會第12屆第1會期司法及法制委員會\n公園報告我們刑訴法294到298條到尤其298條有如果庭審原因消滅的話就要應繼續進行或者庭審原因早就消滅了啦那是法官他們要去決定當然啦這當然不關你的事啦但我也跟法官們呼籲啊庭審原因早就消滅了那接下來我想問一下齁你知道陳建業院長拍板打炸行動1.5是去年5月嘛對不對\n五月然後六七月正十九條文修正草案案。\n那我想請教您,您認為到目前為止這個打造行動綱領1.5號從2023年1月到5月的16799件到下半年就6月到12月成長到21485件?案件是增加還減少?\n現在的案件數當然還在處在一個高原期沒有辦法立竿見影看到它立即的下降一下我是沒有錯越打越詐這才是今天一個問題那昨天我很高興賴清德總統當選人他舉了一個例子他講詐騙當然是現在詐騙真的是全民受苦對不對他講什麼例子他舉說前經濟部長尹啟明說他也被詐騙\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n有聽過吧?詐騙三百多萬,三百五十八萬啦。贏啟明是因為他兒子有人騙他說他兒子被綁架,他天下父母親非常心憂急切,所以被騙了一百二十萬。我就很好奇為什麼在新的總統當選人齁,要舉例,要舉贏啟明的例子,怎麼不舉翁伯忠的例子呢?\n民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具:「中華民國刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一）委員馬文君等17人擬具\n刑法第三百三十九條之四條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．\n所以不是今天我們這個刑法的刑度修正以後修改以後就萬事太平詐騙就煙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