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00:02:14,348\n好上一次的整戰重複是20年前這一段道路就是台一甲線這個萬壽路的一二三段從回龍的生活圈到龜山的市區一路到桃園火車站基本上是應該要好好來做一下檢討所以我要求公路局這邊把相關的預算編組來來協助地方政府來做這個道路的養護那第二個剛剛我有提到就是說這個既然最近通過了新的法條\n\n7\n00:02:15,289 --> 00:02:32,606\n是不是也藉這樣的一個機會除了道路重鋪本身的品質提升之外是不是也針對一下行人安全的部分做一下檢討也許同一筆預算或者是不同的預算一起來做一次的工程不只把道路鋪平來也把相關行人友善的設施可以來做納入讓整個道路安全的品質可以再提升可以嗎\n\n8\n00:02:34,654 --> 00:02:50,771\n道路鋪面重鋪之後那個標線要重劃標線重劃的時候比如說這個行川線該退縮的啦或是有些這個線不夠清楚的我想我們一定會依照這個行人安全的這些標準來做我們近期會安排相關的一些會刊要求公路局這邊責成中立公路段權力配合\n\n9\n00:02:52,273 --> 00:02:59,977\n第二個還有一點點時間跟次長來討論一下這個事本來我們希望是王國才部長離開的聲音是支持大眾運輸的聲音上一次在交通委員會質詢的時候當然我們談的是國道客運的運價調整他們講說當初全聯會有提一個版本我們當初在做協調溝通的時候其實他們都再三保證如果說這個運價調整的部分有做一個通過的話可以大幅的減輕各個國道客運虧損的問題\n\n10\n00:03:20,006 --> 00:03:29,743\n然後以至於去改善這個大家對於大眾運輸投入營運興趣缺缺的這樣子一個狀況那市長這個東西公布之後你們有沒有收到新的反饋\n\n11\n00:03:34,718 --> 00:03:50,803\n國道客運的這個運價的調整反應成本交通部已經給我們核定了那我們也轉到各個客運業者那基本上就是說客運業者如果說因為我們因為我們有補貼這一個短途的部分其實TPS的部分都已經都會吸收嘛對\n\n12\n00:03:51,403 --> 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