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\"end\": 519.763, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"黃\"}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 519.763, \"end\": 519.783, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 519.783, \"end\": 519.803, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"言\", \"start\": 519.803, \"end\": 519.823, \"score\": 0.0}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:02,432 --> 00:00:04,753\n謝謝主席,我們請部長部長首先先恭喜,那這個也是責任的開始因為環境部的業務真的是涵蓋非常非常的廣那我今天就是就我們部長剛剛這個報告的部分其實我剛剛聽到一個\n\n2\n00:00:25,323 --> 00:00:37,298\n部長會去關心就是說這個淹地都丟在這個水溝裡面本席在基層其實也都常常看到這樣的一個狀況那尤其是在立法院其實也是有這樣的狀況在我們在\n\n3\n00:00:40,962 --> 00:00:54,398\n好幾個會期之前我在這個質詢台也有特別提到吸煙的這個區域是不是可以有一個固定的一個地方或者是說吸煙室這個其實我覺得都可以去考慮啦那當然\n\n4\n00:01:36,731 --> 00:02:01,860\n謝謝委員,中部的空屋因為我本身在中部長大其實我每次坐高鐵的時候這個景象就一直常常看到那中部其實因為他的大氣非常的穩定所以他其實他的條件跟北部跟南部都不一樣那未來其實短期內其實未來因為我們NASA的飛機剛飛過所以可能在未來這幾個月內對於我們中部還有南部的空屋的成因有一個另外一種角度的了解我希望他們可以解決我們一些問題\n\n5\n00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:19,194\n另外一個控制污染源是最重要的,它固定污染源當然大家熟知的可能有幾個大煙囪目前我們是要求一直它持續的減量但是還有一些移動污染源或是所謂益善源其實包含了民眾的交通或是生活其實都要一直減量,這個我們會來努力\n\n6\n00:02:20,535 --> 00:02:37,882\n好,那你總是要設定一個目標嘛,就是說未來知道中部的這個污染源是什麼,那了解原因之後,那總是要設定一個目標要怎麼去解決。我覺得這個是中部地區民眾時常在抱怨的,就是說空污的這個議題。\n\n7\n00:02:39,863 --> 00:02:56,576\n新部長上任之後也能夠拿出魄力,能夠有一些跟各部會、跨部會要去檢討的部分我覺得你應該也要提出來,要怎麼去檢討,要怎麼去解決另外就是剛剛部長有特別提到就是說今年23月這個NASA的這個\n\n8\n00:02:58,277 --> 00:02:58,617\n﹚國際空氣污染實驗\n\n9\n00:03:27,610 --> 00:03:46,606\n這個飛機來做這個空氣污染的這個實驗那未來我們自己本身就環境部自己本身你們要怎麼做有沒有一個比較具體的一個方案包圍兩個部分一個是這個NASA的飛機呢真的非常難得那希望他這次可以解決一些問題那未來我們跟美國台美的合作會更大的強化\n\n10\n00:03:47,427 --> 00:04:07,712\n現在包含的整個垂直面、無人機等等我們都有合作會持續來進行那也希望可以跟從NASA的這個飛機來台灣可以找到一些初步的原因那另外一個是委員提到的數位轉型其實數位轉型在民間很多的產業都一直積極在做了那數位轉型可以幫助我們決策效率更快也可以讓民眾更瞭解\n\n11\n00:04:22,731 --> 00:04:48,764\n所以我們希望說新的部長來總是要有一些新的做法新的氣象那部長之前也有特別提到就是說目前這個環境部也有預告就是空氣品質的這些標準那也預告說會加嚴那我想請教部長就是說剛我有特別提到中部地區域的這個空氣污染那其實應該全台灣都一樣有這樣的一個狀況那未來我們要怎麼去做那有定什麼樣的期程或有什麼樣的規劃\n\n12\n00:04:50,264 --> 00:05:15,754\n好,報告委員其實中部有很多的這個環團其實我在上任前都有去拜訪過他們對我期許很高啊對,所以你要好好做對,希望PM2.5能夠再降低再降低但是我也跟我們同仁討論說我們可以什麼時候做到啊現在正在進行各式各樣的模擬我們要以先做得到然後一個理想還有跟做得到兩個方式來進行所以這個到時候我們有成果一定會跟再跟委員報告是\n\n13\n00:05:17,034 --> 00:05:23,777\n好,那這個大家關心的從這個好幾個會期,三個會期這個從這個會期一開始大家就在講說這個課徵碳費那之前薛部長也有提到那我想請教就是說這個碳費的這個政策就是說我們什麼時候要制定\n\n14\n00:05:42,266 --> 00:05:58,364\n總是新的部長上來之後針對這一部分因為地方的這個中小企業一般的企業其實都非常的關心因為這個都會影響到他們的經營方式那我想請教部長未來我們這個課真的這個碳費你們期程是什麼\n\n15\n00:05:59,065 --> 00:06:04,169\n﹚國際社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12屆\n\n16\n00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,621\n環境部部長列席報告業務概況．\n\n17\n00:06:31,908 --> 00:06:57,014\n報告委員其實我們目前的碳費是針對大概500家所謂的製造業還有電力業來進行這個碳費的徵收所以中小企業真的不用太過的焦慮一步一步的來設定計畫就可以所以我必須在這邊喊話中小企業真的不要過度焦慮過度焦慮就容易製造一些新的問題出現所以真的不要焦慮那大的企業呢其實現在前面的企業在做但是我個人會關注的就是說有些比較傳統的產業該怎麼辦\n\n18\n00:06:59,235 --> 00:06:59,295\n﹝講解中﹞\n\n19\n00:07:26,301 --> 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