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00:01:41,818\n公務的標準要再更嚴或是我們的碳費的制度要更快的進行其實我都聽到了所以我報告委員我的包袱真的壓力很大所以我要靠我們的同事我們一起團隊合作來面對我個人認為環團是給我們環境的人是一個很大的激勵我非常的肯定那未來我會持續的跟環團在定期的來溝通\n\n5\n00:01:43,052 --> 00:02:11,204\n是,所以有很多的期許當然也背負著很大的壓力不過相信在部長的領導之下應該讓環境部的所有同仁可以一起動起來讓我們的環境可以更好當然大家最關心的還是空屋因為空屋對每天每一個時間我們都在呼吸所以空屋的確依照WHO認為說99%的人口都居住在不是那麼好的空氣品質之下\n\n6\n00:02:12,204 --> 00:02:30,013\n現在我們的研究都有證實空汙都會造成一些癌症或者是心血管一些疾病的風險剛剛也看到部長的報告其實臺灣在PM2.5就是細旋微浮力這方面的控制從105年的20的μg\n\n7\n00:02:33,215 --> 00:02:59,112\n已經減少到112年的13.7那也預計在116年可以降到13這個是整體的這個環境的尤其這個維福利PM2.5這邊的改善的部分我們也知道其實0到35都算是正常範圍超過71當然就非常不好只是它的分布其實相對就不平均我們可以看往下面一張看到\n\n8\n00:02:59,972 --> 00:03:22,985\n我們很多的城市其實是超過3到5倍那剛剛我們所看到的彰化因為他住在彰化嘛彰化看起來是很需要再做進步的部分那剛剛部長也提到可能會依照這個不同的縣市做一些不同的一些處理模式那這邊特別請部長再針對於如果我們\n\n9\n00:03:25,106 --> 00:03:31,940\n看到有這樣的分布不平均的時候我們如何能夠具體的改善當地在這方面的影響\n\n10\n00:03:33,201 --> 00:04:00,819\n報告委員其實因為我們現在環境部跟地方環保局都有一個跨縣市的合作所以例如說中部還有南部有不一樣那他們針對一些空污事件的時候都會有一個聯合的一個作業的這個機制來共同來降低這個排放源提醒的機制那至於說這個源頭減量的部分呢其實我們在我們的空污房子規劃法案裡面都有相關的進度的安排啦那我們會持續的來進行但是這個其實最關鍵的就是說\n\n11\n00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,422\n所以不是只有政府在做相關的努力而已我們希望各界都能夠一起來幫忙\n\n12\n00:04:22,228 --> 00:04:36,164\n其實這個報告委員其實這個我個人從民間來我們家裡面這個煮個菜PM2.5說真的有時候會比外面還要來得高很多所以這個其實民眾的生活習慣民眾的瞭解認知如何預防改變這個都很重要\n\n13\n00:04:36,988 --> 00:04:56,440\n好,那大家一起來努力喔再過來就是除了PM2.5可以讓大家擔心以外其實空氣品質的指數AQI大家也都非常關心那請問一下部長我們現在多少以上的AQI就需要發布空品不良細胞廣播\n\n14\n00:04:57,761 --> 00:05:26,560\n報告委員現在是200以上那我其實有注意到這個問題所以我們有請我們的監測師其實研議說在我們環境部的APP我們環境部的APP其實上面對空污的訊息掌握蠻直接所以我有請他說是不是150在我們的APP上面就提醒民眾朋友能夠來注意是因為韓國是150那大家也知道已經設好了報告委員已經設好了就是如果你下載我們環境部的APP空品APP其實150就會提醒你了\n\n15\n00:05:27,076 --> 00:05:55,309\nOK,那知道目前下載的量或者是相對能夠被民眾所理解跟引用的部分有沒有比較具體的數據可以讓大家瞭解?跟委員報告因為那個就是在我們環境集中的這個APP裡面那因為部長指示我們已經把只要你在這個區域裡面那到這個區域範圍裡面空氣品質AQI大概150\n\n16\n00:05:56,670 --> 00:05:56,690\n致詢\n\n17\n00:06:17,614 --> 00:06:32,684\n是當然這個是季節性會有這樣的問題嘛不過我們有時候也蠻擔心的突發性的空污事件包括我們可以看到前一陣子這個深空大火發生一個很嚴重的意味的飄散\n\n18\n00:06:34,181 --> 00:06:51,133\n民眾都感受到了可是我們有沒有辦法及時的去發佈對當地來講這是很明顯的一個空無突發性的這些事件那不知道現在環境部這邊有做了哪一些努力需要做如何去配合地方政府的處理\n\n19\n00:06:52,034 --> 00:07:11,909\n報告委員,這個包含了例如說深耕大火或南亞塑膠大火,其實我們包含了我們的跨私塾都有做一個協調,所以我們現在有一個應變的一個機制,那任何的一個火災出來往下游擴散的區域,配合地方政府提早的預警,那都有開始在進行當中,所以突發性的部分的話我們改進的非常的多。\n\n20\n00:07:12,756 --> 00:07:34,868\n好,非常棒因為很多事情就是不怕一萬只怕萬一所以對當地的民眾來講當有突發狀況的時候他需要一個非常迅速而且能夠及時去了解當地發生問題的一些可以如何去幫助自己也可以幫助家人的一些處理模式\n\n21\n00:07:35,828 --> 00:08:01,977\n非常感謝部長這邊的努力那往後其實就是要麻煩部長針對這個環評委員組成的多元性因為我們知道其實從環保署的時期第6屆到第14屆的環評委員的名單裡面環境部是因為前幾年才改制所以這個名單相對來講\n\n22\n00:08:03,317 --> 00:08:07,395\n只有在第6屆的時候有相對比較多的環團的代表\n\n23\n00:08:08,423 --> 00:08:34,421\n事實上部長是可以決定這個每兩年改選一次的這個環團的這個環團委員的名單那這一部分部長不曉得針對於如果對環團代表是屬於這個重要的組成一部分的話那如何能夠讓這些非常熱心而且很願意來協助整體臺灣環境的這個維護的這些環團委員\n\n24\n00:08:38,183 --> 00:09:06,798\n能夠有機會進到這個環評委員的委員會裡面去貢獻他們的心理這部分不知道部長有哪一些未來的考量好謝謝委員這個第一個環團我大概明年很像我明年年中我應該是我會由我來選擇定但是我會遵照委員的建議那事實上我會開放等於是我用開放政府的方式讓更多環團能夠來參與環境部或是意見的反應這個部分我用開放政府的方式來進行\n\n25\n00:09:08,259 --> 00:09:09,079\n接下來請圖圈及委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5296\t32608\t謝謝主席有請彭部長部長好恭喜任重道遠臺灣本來就是福和摩沙美麗之島期待在歷任的部長還有彭部長繼續領導之下讓臺灣的環境可以維持讓我們的世世代代的子孫都可以生活在美麗之島上面\n33348\t61247\t那距離當初卓院長在4月19號人事公佈的記者會到現在應該是滿月了吧那當初部長也說會在上任之前要拜訪一些環團請問一下過去這段時間來部長有拜訪了哪一些的環團那交換了哪一些意見那有沒有初步的一些政策建議可以讓我們先了解\n62344\t78859\t報告委員其實因為我沒有真的他們的權益我不方便公開但是我私底下花了很多時間一個一個因為我跟他們講說我還不是部長沒包袱你就盡量跟我說所以我報告委員其實大概例如說很多委員有很多的民間的環團告訴我環評法要來一個總體檢\n80100\t101818\t公務的標準要再更嚴或是我們的碳費的制度要更快的進行其實我都聽到了所以我報告委員我的包袱真的壓力很大所以我要靠我們的同事我們一起團隊合作來面對我個人認為環團是給我們環境的人是一個很大的激勵我非常的肯定那未來我會持續的跟環團在定期的來溝通\n103052\t131204\t是,所以有很多的期許當然也背負著很大的壓力不過相信在部長的領導之下應該讓環境部的所有同仁可以一起動起來讓我們的環境可以更好當然大家最關心的還是空屋因為空屋對每天每一個時間我們都在呼吸所以空屋的確依照WHO認為說99%的人口都居住在不是那麼好的空氣品質之下\n132204\t150013\t現在我們的研究都有證實空汙都會造成一些癌症或者是心血管一些疾病的風險剛剛也看到部長的報告其實臺灣在PM2.5就是細旋微浮力這方面的控制從105年的20的μg\n153215\t179112\t已經減少到112年的13.7那也預計在116年可以降到13這個是整體的這個環境的尤其這個維福利PM2.5這邊的改善的部分我們也知道其實0到35都算是正常範圍超過71當然就非常不好只是它的分布其實相對就不平均我們可以看往下面一張看到\n179972\t202985\t我們很多的城市其實是超過3到5倍那剛剛我們 所看到的彰化因為他住在彰化嘛彰化看起來是很需要再做進步的部分那剛剛部長也提到可能會依照這個不同的縣市做一些不同的一些處理模式那這邊特別請部長再針對於如果我們\n205106\t211940\t看到有這樣的分布不平均的時候我們如何能夠具體的改善當地在這方面的影響\n213201\t240819\t報告委員其實因為我們現在環境部跟地方環保局都有一個跨縣市的合作所以例如說中部還有南部有不一樣那他們針對一些空污事件的時候都會有一個聯合的一個作業的這個機制來共同來降低這個排放源提醒的機制那至於說這個源頭減量的部分呢其實我們在我們的空污房子規劃法案裡面都有相關的進度的安排啦那我們會持續的來進行但是這個其實最關鍵的就是說\n243200\t246422\t所以不是只有政府在做相關的努力而已我們希望各界都能夠一起來幫忙\n262228\t276164\t其實這個報告委員其實這個我個人從民間來我們家裡面這個煮個菜PM2.5說真的有時候會比外面還要來得高很多所以這個其實民眾的生活習慣民眾的瞭解認知如何預防改變這個都很重要\n276988\t296440\t好,那大家一起來努力喔再過來就是除了PM2.5可以讓大家擔心以外其實空氣品質的指數AQI大家也都非常關心那請問一下部長我們現在多少以上的AQI就需要發布空品不良細胞廣播\n297761\t326560\t報告委員現在是200以上那我其實有注意到這個問題所以我們有請我們的監測師其實研議說在我們環境部的APP我們環境部的APP其實上面對空污的訊息掌握蠻直接所以我有請他說是不是150在我們的APP上面就提醒民眾朋友能夠來注意是因為韓國是150那大家也知道已經設好了報告委員已經設好了就是如果你下載我們環境部的APP空品APP其實150就會提醒你了\n327076\t355309\tOK,那知道目前下載的量或者是相對能夠被民眾所理解跟引用的部分有沒有比較具體的數據可以讓大家瞭解?跟委員報告因為那個就是在我們環境集中的這個APP裡面那因為部長指示我們已經把只要你在這個區域裡面那到這個區域範圍裡面空氣品質AQI大概150\n356670\t356690\t致詢\n377614\t392684\t是當然這個是季節性會有這樣的問題嘛不過我們有時候也蠻擔心的突發性的空污事件包括我們可以看到前一陣子這個深空大火發生一個很嚴重的意味的飄散\n394181\t411133\t民眾都感受到了可是我們有沒有辦法及時的去發佈對當地來講這是很明顯的一個空無突發性的這些事件那不知道現在環境部這邊有做了哪一些努力需要做如何去配合地方政府的處理\n412034\t431909\t報告委員,這個包含了例如說深耕大火或南亞塑膠大火,其實我們包含了我們的跨私塾都有做一個協調,所以我們現在有一個應變的一個機制,那任何的一個火災出來往下游擴散的區域,配合地方政府提早的預警,那都有開始在進行當中,所以突發性的部分的話我們改進的非常的多。\n432756\t454868\t好,非常棒因為很多事情就是不怕一萬只怕萬一所以對當地的民眾來講當有突發狀況的時候他需要一個非常迅速而且能夠及時去了解當地發生問題的一些可以如何去幫助自己也可以幫助家人的一些處理模式\n455828\t481977\t非常感謝部長這邊的努力那往後其實就是要麻煩部長針對這個環評委員組成的多元性因為我們知道其實從環保署的時期第6屆到第14屆的環評委員的名單裡面環境部是因為前幾年才改制所以這個名單相對來講\n483317\t487395\t只有在第6屆的時候有相對比較多的環團的代表\n488423\t514421\t事實上部長是可以決定這個每兩年改選一次的這個環團的這個環團委員的名單那這一部分部長不曉得針對於如果對環團代表是屬於這個重要的組成一部分的話那如何能夠讓這些非常熱心而且很願意來協助整體臺灣環境的這個維護的這些環團委員\n518183\t546798\t能夠有機會進到這個環評委員的委員會裡面去貢獻他們的心理這部分不知道部長有哪一些未來的考量好 謝謝委員 這個第一個環團我大概明年很像我明年年中我應該是我會由我來選擇定但是我會遵照委員的建議那事實上我會開放等於是我用開放政府的方式讓更多環團能夠來參與環境部或是意見的反應這個部分我用開放政府的方式來進行\n548259\t549079\t接下來請圖圈及委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請彭部長部長好恭喜任重道遠臺灣本來就是福和摩沙美麗之島期待在歷任的部長還有彭部長繼續領導之下讓臺灣的環境可以維持讓我們的世世代代的子孫都可以生活在美麗之島上面\n那距離當初卓院長在4月19號人事公佈的記者會到現在應該是滿月了吧那當初部長也說會在上任之前要拜訪一些環團請問一下過去這段時間來部長有拜訪了哪一些的環團那交換了哪一些意見那有沒有初步的一些政策建議可以讓我們先了解\n報告委員其實因為我沒有真的他們的權益我不方便公開但是我私底下花了很多時間一個一個因為我跟他們講說我還不是部長沒包袱你就盡量跟我說所以我報告委員其實大概例如說很多委員有很多的民間的環團告訴我環評法要來一個總體檢\n公務的標準要再更嚴或是我們的碳費的制度要更快的進行其實我都聽到了所以我報告委員我的包袱真的壓力很大所以我要靠我們的同事我們一起團隊合作來面對我個人認為環團是給我們環境的人是一個很大的激勵我非常的肯定那未來我會持續的跟環團在定期的來溝通\n是,所以有很多的期許當然也背負著很大的壓力不過相信在部長的領導之下應該讓環境部的所有同仁可以一起動起來讓我們的環境可以更好當然大家最關心的還是空屋因為空屋對每天每一個時間我們都在呼吸所以空屋的確依照WHO認為說99%的人口都居住在不是那麼好的空氣品質之下\n現在我們的研究都有證實空汙都會造成一些癌症或者是心血管一些疾病的風險剛剛也看到部長的報告其實臺灣在PM2.5就是細旋微浮力這方面的控制從105年的20的μg\n已經減少到112年的13.7那也預計在116年可以降到13這個是整體的這個環境的尤其這個維福利PM2.5這邊的改善的部分我們也知道其實0到35都算是正常範圍超過71當然就非常不好只是它的分布其實相對就不平均我們可以看往下面一張看到\n我們很多的城市其實是超過3到5倍那剛剛我們 所看到的彰化因為他住在彰化嘛彰化看起來是很需要再做進步的部分那剛剛部長也提到可能會依照這個不同的縣市做一些不同的一些處理模式那這邊特別請部長再針對於如果我們\n看到有這樣的分布不平均的時候我們如何能夠具體的改善當地在這方面的影響\n報告委員其實因為我們現在環境部跟地方環保局都有一個跨縣市的合作所以例如說中部還有南部有不一樣那他們針對一些空污事件的時候都會有一個聯合的一個作業的這個機制來共同來降低這個排放源提醒的機制那至於說這個源頭減量的部分呢其實我們在我們的空污房子規劃法案裡面都有相關的進度的安排啦那我們會持續的來進行但是這個其實最關鍵的就是說\n所以不是只有政府在做相關的努力而已我們希望各界都能夠一起來幫忙\n其實這個報告委員其實這個我個人從民間來我們家裡面這個煮個菜PM2.5說真的有時候會比外面還要來得高很多所以這個其實民眾的生活習慣民眾的瞭解認知如何預防改變這個都很重要\n好,那大家一起來努力喔再過來就是除了PM2.5可以讓大家擔心以外其實空氣品質的指數AQI大家也都非常關心那請問一下部長我們現在多少以上的AQI就需要發布空品不良細胞廣播\n報告委員現在是200以上那我其實有注意到這個問題所以我們有請我們的監測師其實研議說在我們環境部的APP我們環境部的APP其實上面對空污的訊息掌握蠻直接所以我有請他說是不是150在我們的APP上面就提醒民眾朋友能夠來注意是因為韓國是150那大家也知道已經設好了報告委員已經設好了就是如果你下載我們環境部的APP空品APP其實150就會提醒你了\nOK,那知道目前下載的量或者是相對能夠被民眾所理解跟引用的部分有沒有比較具體的數據可以讓大家瞭解?跟委員報告因為那個就是在我們環境集中的這個APP裡面那因為部長指示我們已經把只要你在這個區域裡面那到這個區域範圍裡面空氣品質AQI大概150\n致詢\n是當然這個是季節性會有這樣的問題嘛不過我們有時候也蠻擔心的突發性的空污事件包括我們可以看到前一陣子這個深空大火發生一個很嚴重的意味的飄散\n民眾都感受到了可是我們有沒有辦法及時的去發佈對當地來講這是很明顯的一個空無突發性的這些事件那不知道現在環境部這邊有做了哪一些努力需要做如何去配合地方政府的處理\n報告委員,這個包含了例如說深耕大火或南亞塑膠大火,其實我們包含了我們的跨私塾都有做一個協調,所以我們現在有一個應變的一個機制,那任何的一個火災出來往下游擴散的區域,配合地方政府提早的預警,那都有開始在進行當中,所以突發性的部分的話我們改進的非常的多。\n好,非常棒因為很多事情就是不怕一萬只怕萬一所以對當地的民眾來講當有突發狀況的時候他需要一個非常迅速而且能夠及時去了解當地發生問題的一些可以如何去幫助自己也可以幫助家人的一些處理模式\n非常感謝部長這邊的努力那往後其實就是要麻煩部長針對這個環評委員組成的多元性因為我們知道其實從環保署的時期第6屆到第14屆的環評委員的名單裡面環境部是因為前幾年才改制所以這個名單相對來講\n只有在第6屆的時候有相對比較多的環團的代表\n事實上部長是可以決定這個每兩年改選一次的這個環團的這個環團委員的名單那這一部分部長不曉得針對於如果對環團代表是屬於這個重要的組成一部分的話那如何能夠讓這些非常熱心而且很願意來協助整體臺灣環境的這個維護的這些環團委員\n能夠有機會進到這個環評委員的委員會裡面去貢獻他們的心理這部分不知道部長有哪一些未來的考量好 謝謝委員 這個第一個環團我大概明年很像我明年年中我應該是我會由我來選擇定但是我會遵照委員的建議那事實上我會開放等於是我用開放政府的方式讓更多環團能夠來參與環境部或是意見的反應這個部分我用開放政府的方式來進行\n接下來請圖圈及委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.296 --> 00:32.608\n謝謝主席有請彭部長部長好恭喜任重道遠臺灣本來就是福和摩沙美麗之島期待在歷任的部長還有彭部長繼續領導之下讓臺灣的環境可以維持讓我們的世世代代的子孫都可以生活在美麗之島上面\n\n00:33.348 --> 01:01.247\n那距離當初卓院長在4月19號人事公佈的記者會到現在應該是滿月了吧那當初部長也說會在上任之前要拜訪一些環團請問一下過去這段時間來部長有拜訪了哪一些的環團那交換了哪一些意見那有沒有初步的一些政策建議可以讓我們先了解\n\n01:02.344 --> 01:18.859\n報告委員其實因為我沒有真的他們的權益我不方便公開但是我私底下花了很多時間一個一個因為我跟他們講說我還不是部長沒包袱你就盡量跟我說所以我報告委員其實大概例如說很多委員有很多的民間的環團告訴我環評法要來一個總體檢\n\n01:20.100 --> 01:41.818\n公務的標準要再更嚴或是我們的碳費的制度要更快的進行其實我都聽到了所以我報告委員我的包袱真的壓力很大所以我要靠我們的同事我們一起團隊合作來面對我個人認為環團是給我們環境的人是一個很大的激勵我非常的肯定那未來我會持續的跟環團在定期的來溝通\n\n01:43.052 --> 02:11.204\n是,所以有很多的期許當然也背負著很大的壓力不過相信在部長的領導之下應該讓環境部的所有同仁可以一起動起來讓我們的環境可以更好當然大家最關心的還是空屋因為空屋對每天每一個時間我們都在呼吸所以空屋的確依照WHO認為說99%的人口都居住在不是那麼好的空氣品質之下\n\n02:12.204 --> 02:30.013\n現在我們的研究都有證實空汙都會造成一些癌症或者是心血管一些疾病的風險剛剛也看到部長的報告其實臺灣在PM2.5就是細旋微浮力這方面的控制從105年的20的μg\n\n02:33.215 --> 02:59.112\n已經減少到112年的13.7那也預計在116年可以降到13這個是整體的這個環境的尤其這個維福利PM2.5這邊的改善的部分我們也知道其實0到35都算是正常範圍超過71當然就非常不好只是它的分布其實相對就不平均我們可以看往下面一張看到\n\n02:59.972 --> 03:22.985\n我們很多的城市其實是超過3到5倍那剛剛我們所看到的彰化因為他住在彰化嘛彰化看起來是很需要再做進步的部分那剛剛部長也提到可能會依照這個不同的縣市做一些不同的一些處理模式那這邊特別請部長再針對於如果我們\n\n03:25.106 --> 03:31.940\n看到有這樣的分布不平均的時候我們如何能夠具體的改善當地在這方面的影響\n\n03:33.201 --> 04:00.819\n報告委員其實因為我們現在環境部跟地方環保局都有一個跨縣市的合作所以例如說中部還有南部有不一樣那他們針對一些空污事件的時候都會有一個聯合的一個作業的這個機制來共同來降低這個排放源提醒的機制那至於說這個源頭減量的部分呢其實我們在我們的空污房子規劃法案裡面都有相關的進度的安排啦那我們會持續的來進行但是這個其實最關鍵的就是說\n\n04:03.200 --> 04:06.422\n所以不是只有政府在做相關的努力而已我們希望各界都能夠一起來幫忙\n\n04:22.228 --> 04:36.164\n其實這個報告委員其實這個我個人從民間來我們家裡面這個煮個菜PM2.5說真的有時候會比外面還要來得高很多所以這個其實民眾的生活習慣民眾的瞭解認知如何預防改變這個都很重要\n\n04:36.988 --> 04:56.440\n好,那大家一起來努力喔再過來就是除了PM2.5可以讓大家擔心以外其實空氣品質的指數AQI大家也都非常關心那請問一下部長我們現在多少以上的AQI就需要發布空品不良細胞廣播\n\n04:57.761 --> 05:26.560\n報告委員現在是200以上那我其實有注意到這個問題所以我們有請我們的監測師其實研議說在我們環境部的APP我們環境部的APP其實上面對空污的訊息掌握蠻直接所以我有請他說是不是150在我們的APP上面就提醒民眾朋友能夠來注意是因為韓國是150那大家也知道已經設好了報告委員已經設好了就是如果你下載我們環境部的APP空品APP其實150就會提醒你了\n\n05:27.076 --> 05:55.309\nOK,那知道目前下載的量或者是相對能夠被民眾所理解跟引用的部分有沒有比較具體的數據可以讓大家瞭解?跟委員報告因為那個就是在我們環境集中的這個APP裡面那因為部長指示我們已經把只要你在這個區域裡面那到這個區域範圍裡面空氣品質AQI大概150\n\n05:56.670 --> 05:56.690\n致詢\n\n06:17.614 --> 06:32.684\n是當然這個是季節性會有這樣的問題嘛不過我們有時候也蠻擔心的突發性的空污事件包括我們可以看到前一陣子這個深空大火發生一個很嚴重的意味的飄散\n\n06:34.181 --> 06:51.133\n民眾都感受到了可是我們有沒有辦法及時的去發佈對當地來講這是很明顯的一個空無突發性的這些事件那不知道現在環境部這邊有做了哪一些努力需要做如何去配合地方政府的處理\n\n06:52.034 --> 07:11.909\n報告委員,這個包含了例如說深耕大火或南亞塑膠大火,其實我們包含了我們的跨私塾都有做一個協調,所以我們現在有一個應變的一個機制,那任何的一個火災出來往下游擴散的區域,配合地方政府提早的預警,那都有開始在進行當中,所以突發性的部分的話我們改進的非常的多。\n\n07:12.756 --> 07:34.868\n好,非常棒因為很多事情就是不怕一萬只怕萬一所以對當地的民眾來講當有突發狀況的時候他需要一個非常迅速而且能夠及時去了解當地發生問題的一些可以如何去幫助自己也可以幫助家人的一些處理模式\n\n07:35.828 --> 08:01.977\n非常感謝部長這邊的努力那往後其實就是要麻煩部長針對這個環評委員組成的多元性因為我們知道其實從環保署的時期第6屆到第14屆的環評委員的名單裡面環境部是因為前幾年才改制所以這個名單相對來講\n\n08:03.317 --> 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