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00:00:42,270\n部長好,非常歡迎你來到文化部,因為你自己本身就是一個應該非常了解文化的一個文化人那我想我就接續著剛剛議級委員的幾個議題我先快速的先講到轉型正義的這件事情因為我過去在民間也是有在寫這些有關於白色恐怖的這些走讀的腳本給孩子那中正紀念堂其實也是我一個腳本的主題\n\n3\n00:00:43,371 --> 00:00:44,392\n議員提供了幾種不同的處理方法\n\n4\n00:01:01,533 --> 00:01:22,522\n可能是像移籍委員剛剛說的部分但是也有另外一種方法我們是不是可以做更多的人權教育我們必須要有一些更批判性的思考去面對當現在的政治或社會的各種局面或是我們收到的假訊息所以這個批判性思考對於不管是聯合國同基金會都非常從2016年都開始推動的\n\n5\n00:01:23,582 --> 00:01:41,487\n但是我發現一件事情就是我們國家人權博物館的預算以前其實是會有兩次的教育推廣但是我們現在我從11年看起來有1290萬112年我查不到第二期的資料如果第二期是沒有那就946萬113年我現在只有看到規劃一期\n\n6\n00:01:44,718 --> 00:01:44,778\n我跟﹐\n\n7\n00:02:12,125 --> 00:02:38,331\n我跟委員做個報告,原則上已經往我們是一年是兩次那後來有團體就是反映說我們大概第二期時間的執行時間就太短所以我們就把整個整變成做為一年就是一期那經費上的原則上大概是八九百那一一三年度事實上也確實申請了蠻多所以我們把經費也調贏了一些經費過來所以一一三年度可以看得出來我們核定的是一千一百多萬\n\n8\n00:02:39,111 --> 00:02:55,809\n對可是他跟111年比起來是變少了耶如果是一期來說我也認同因為的確我過去也是申請這個補助案的人所以我了解的確在第二期執行上面真的是非常的緊湊所以你們要這樣做我完全沒有任何意見齁但是金額上面真的就是變少了\n\n9\n00:02:56,910 --> 00:03:19,666\n我們人權管理的經費預算確實是比較緊那這個部分的話是預算不夠嗎是需要部長再來協助嗎還是怎麼樣因為剛剛我們要講嘛威權移序要處理這件事情社會共識很重要如果我們沒有足夠的資源去滾動去做這些人權教育要如何走進到下一個階段轉型正義要如何繼續下去這一部分是需要部長的支持嗎\n\n10\n00:03:20,447 --> 00:03:48,402\n我跟委員報告我們現在目前也有在徵請那個促轉基金來協助這樣一部分的一個工作好那我們這部分我們會再來努力來徵請基金那這個部分我希望可以積極的去申請這個促轉基金我也希望這個運用上面可以帶給大家更多的想像好謝謝請回那再來就是說我想我也想要繼續的來請教這個部長非常了解有多少鴿子的部長就是說中正建堂裡面有一個汐水以前有一個噴水的地方\n\n11\n00:03:49,142 --> 00:04:16,948\n那每到夏天以前都一直噴水嘛那以前因為台北是非常非常的炎熱到夏天很多小孩就會去那邊洗水那這已經因為疫情前幾年因為疫情的關係它關閉了那現在呢似乎也沒有開起來要讓孩子洗水我想要請部長來研究我們這個部分是不是可以提供孩子一個洗水的空間呢把噴水池重新變成讓孩子在夏天尤其是在這個氣候變遷的狀況之下可以讓他去那邊洗水這件事情是不是可行呢\n\n12\n00:04:17,952 --> 00:04:18,232\n李遠列席\n\n13\n00:04:36,779 --> 00:04:36,980\n臺語政策\n\n14\n00:04:52,759 --> 00:05:21,406\n因為就是像如同剛剛部長也非常清楚就是作為一個主責單位因為我自己是一個講台語的家庭所以我自己非常在乎這件事情那我想跟部長先討論一件事情我們一年的國家整體語言的發展方案的預算有64億其中台語總預算只佔了15億大概23.43%這個預算到底夠不夠這個部分我覺得我們可以再來討論但是我想先討論一件事情\n\n15\n00:05:22,466 --> 00:05:22,486\n﹚廣告\n\n16\n00:05:33,277 --> 00:05:33,357\n﹚張雅琳\n\n17\n00:06:03,357 --> 00:06:12,452\n我們有做這件事情嗎?我們現在有做這件事情嗎?我先回答剛才為什麼會比較偏向影視因為當初成立的公共電視台語台因為那個\n\n18\n00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:34,206\n那個委員應該稍微瞭解一個電視台要成立跟拍片他的預算是非常高的未來我想我們會調整到其他的方式來推動台語比如台語家庭還有台語的其他表演應該說部長其實我並沒有反對我們要投資這麼高因為我像上之前我跟史哲部長諮詢的時候我也非常認同因為這個是一個空站的部分對對\n\n19\n00:06:34,986 --> 00:06:35,166\n﹚張雅琳﹚\n\n20\n00:07:01,535 --> 00:07:29,447\n讓更多人聽到台語聽到客語聽到這些語言喜歡這件事情喜歡這文化去學習它這部分我希望部長可以是給我們一個計畫好不好就是說我們怎麼去做這整個串聯那這個計畫是不是可以在多久的時候可以提供給我們多久多久我想請教一下一個三個月兩個月可以嗎好不好兩個月可以不可以好如果我們開始做這個方向去研究兩個月謝謝部長那再來就是說\n\n21\n00:07:31,007 --> 00:07:59,929\n之前我也有講就是說我們今天剛剛已經是海灑了嘛對不對下面的要怎麼去承接親子其實是一個很重要的平台那我們其實現在有母語學習家庭跟母語傳承家庭那我想要知道說我們對於母語傳承家庭之前我也其實也有質詢部長說我們對於傳承家庭是不是有更高的一些任務給他除了只是給他獎金可是他只有在家裡講他能不能走到社區講我不曉得現在文化部有沒有進一步的規劃在這個部分\n\n22\n00:08:01,089 --> 00:08:29,454\n這個部分是不是請社長跟委員報告一下這個傳承家庭的部分我們現在就是希望說他除了家裡講台語之外如果他願意成為所謂的共學家庭因為我們會賦予他們責任他們可以來跟文化部申請說還要在他的社區裡面推動10個或是15個家庭他們要一起來共學的話那這個部分我們會給他經費的支柱還有包括場地的租借或者是他們這些\n\n23\n00:08:31,214 --> 00:08:36,197\n我們下禮拜還會再進行一次的諮詢會議把我們整個台語家庭的推動計畫跟我們台語界的夥伴們一起討論好了以後希望在8月份能夠正式公告9月份上路\n\n24\n00:08:56,687 --> 00:09:24,539\n好謝謝那延續這一題還有就是說我們之前呢其實是有講說我們需要有更平凡的去使用這一些我們台語的這個東西嘛那之前我們其實有講到就是說其實他們可能是說故事的爸媽或是推廣活動或是一些友善魂境可是因為之前也有台語的家庭來反映說他們可能這是像台語生活節或是這是一個台語的會盆活動可是他進去的時候他聽不到可能只有50%不到的人\n\n25\n00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:26,920\n﹚張雅琳﹚\n\n26\n00:09:52,862 --> 00:09:58,450\n民眾可以去選擇而不是說全部都是變成初級的版本這個部分我不曉得文化部研究的成果是什麼\n\n27\n00:09:59,588 --> 00:10:24,045\n目前我們今年度的各個補助項目像說故事爸媽或者是那些推廣活動或者是接受我們補助的台語主流化的表演節目我們都有要求他們要標示這是一個純台語的演出或者是如果是台華混合或台客混合的時候在比例上面也能夠做出一個適當的說明那這樣的話讓我們參與的朋友們可以做一個正確的選擇\n\n28\n00:10:24,946 --> 00:10:49,354\n所以在這個部分的話是什麼時候已經開始會開始執行呢?對今年度就會開始執行今年度就會開始執行也是8月的時候嗎一起購嗎OK好那最後還是要再請部長一下就是說因為部長畢竟我覺得之前擔任過華視的總經理那過去又在這個領域上面有非常多跨媒體的跨領域不管是文學作品影視作品歌謠等等的一些整合我非常希望\n\n29\n00:10:50,034 --> 00:10:50,094\n謝謝大家謝謝部長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n349\t12667\t張雅琳委員謝謝主席那我們有請部長好有請李部長\n17588\t42270\t部長好,非常歡迎你來到文化部,因為你自己本身就是一個應該非常了解文化的一個文化人那我想我就接續著剛剛議級委員的幾個議題我先快速的先講到轉型正義的這件事情因為我過去在民間也是有在寫這些有關於白色恐怖的這些走讀的腳本給孩子那中正紀念堂其實也是我一個腳本的主題\n43371\t44392\t議員提供了幾種不同的處理方法\n61533\t82522\t可能是像移籍委員剛剛說的部分但是也有另外一種方法我們是不是可以做更多的人權教育我們必須要有一些更批判性的思考去面對當現在的政治或社會的各種局面或是我們收到的假訊息所以這個批判性思考對於不管是聯合國同基金會都非常從2016年都開始推動的\n83582\t101487\t但是我發現一件事情就是我們國家人權博物館的預算以前其實是會有兩次的教育推廣但是我們現在我從11年看起來有1290萬112年我查不到第二期的資料如果第二期是沒有那就946萬113年我現在只有看到規劃一期\n104718\t104778\t我跟﹐\n132125\t158331\t我跟委員做個報告,原則上已經往我們是一年是兩次那後來有團體就是反映說我們大概第二期時間的執行時間就太短所以我們就把整個整變成做為一年就是一期那經費上的原則上大概是八九百那一一三年度事實上也確實申請了蠻多所以我們把經費也調贏了一些經費過來所以一一三年度可以看得出來我們核定的是一千一百多萬\n159111\t175809\t對可是他跟111年比起來是變少了耶如果是一期來說我也認同因為的確我過去也是申請這個補助案的人所以我了解的確在第二期執行上面真的是非常的緊湊所以你們要這樣做我完全沒有任何意見齁但是金額上面真的就是變少了\n176910\t199666\t我們人權管理的經費預算確實是比較緊那這個部分的話是預算不夠嗎是需要部長再來協助嗎還是怎麼樣因為剛剛我們要講嘛威權移序要處理這件事情社會共識很重要如果我們沒有足夠的資源去滾動去做這些人權教育要如何走進到下一個階段轉型正義要如何繼續下去這一部分是需要部長的支持嗎\n200447\t228402\t我跟委員報告我們現在目前也有在徵請那個促轉基金來協助這樣一部分的一個工作好那我們這部分我們會再來努力來徵請基金那這個部分我希望可以積極的去申請這個促轉基金我也希望這個運用上面可以帶給大家更多的想像好謝謝請回那再來就是說我想我也想要繼續的來請教這個部長非常了解有多少鴿子的部長就是說中正建堂裡面有一個汐水以前有一個噴水的地方\n229142\t256948\t那每到夏天以前都一直噴水嘛那以前因為台北是非常非常的炎熱到夏天很多小孩就會去那邊洗水那這已經因為疫情前幾年因為疫情的關係它關閉了那現在呢似乎也沒有開起來要讓孩子洗水我想要請部長來研究我們這個部分是不是可以提供孩子一個洗水的空間呢把噴水池重新變成讓孩子在夏天尤其是在這個氣候變遷的狀況之下可以讓他去那邊洗水這件事情是不是可行呢\n257952\t258232\t李遠列席\n276779\t276980\t臺語政策\n292759\t321406\t因為就是像如同剛剛部長也非常清楚就是作為一個主責單位因為我自己是一個講台語的家庭所以我自己非常在乎這件事情那我想跟部長先討論一件事情我們一年的國家整體語言的發展方案的預算有64億其中台語總預算只佔了15億大概23.43%這個預算到底夠不夠這個部分我覺得我們可以再來討論但是我想先討論一件事情\n322466\t322486\t﹚廣告\n333277\t333357\t﹚張雅琳\n363357\t372452\t我們有做這件事情嗎?我們現在有做這件事情嗎?我先回答剛才為什麼會比較偏向影視因為當初成立的公共電視台語台因為那個\n373720\t394206\t那個委員應該稍微瞭解一個電視台要成立跟拍片他的預算是非常高的未來我想我們會調整到其他的方式來推動台語比如台語家庭還有台語的其他表演應該說部長其實我並沒有反對我們要投資這麼高因為我像上之前我跟史哲部長諮詢的時候我也非常認同因為這個是一個空站的部分對對\n394986\t395166\t﹚張雅琳﹚\n421535\t449447\t讓更多人聽到台語聽到客語聽到這些語言喜歡這件事情喜歡這文化去學習它這部分我希望部長可以是給我們一個計畫好不好就是說我們怎麼去做這整個串聯那這個計畫是不是可以在多久的時候可以提供給我們多久多久我想請教一下一個三個月兩個月可以嗎好不好兩個月可以不可以好如果我們開始做這個方向去研究兩個月謝謝部長那再來就是說\n451007\t479929\t之前我也有講就是說我們今天剛剛已經是海灑了嘛對不對下面的要怎麼去承接親子其實是一個很重要的平台那我們其實現在有母語學習家庭跟母語傳承家庭那我想要知道說我們對於母語傳承家庭之前我也其實也有質詢部長說我們對於傳承家庭是不是有更高的一些任務給他除了只是給他獎金可是他只有在家裡講他能不能走到社區講我不曉得現在文化部有沒有進一步的規劃在這個部分\n481089\t509454\t這個部分是不是請社長跟委員報告一下這個傳承家庭的部分我們現在就是希望說他除了家裡講台語之外如果他願意成為所謂的共學家庭因為我們會賦予他們責任他們可以來跟文化部申請說還要在他的社區裡面推動10個或是15個家庭他們要一起來共學的話那這個部分我們會給他經費的支柱還有包括場地的租借或者是他們這些\n511214\t516197\t我們下禮拜還會再進行一次的諮詢會議把我們整個台語家庭的推動計畫跟我們台語界的夥伴們一起討論好了以後希望在8月份能夠正式公告9月份上路\n536687\t564539\t好 謝謝那延續這一題還有就是說我們之前呢其實是有講說我們需要有更平凡的去使用這一些我們台語的這個東西嘛那之前我們其實有講到就是說其實他們可能是說故事的爸媽或是推廣活動或是一些友善魂境可是因為之前也有台語的家庭來反映說他們可能這是像台語生活節或是這是一個台語的會盆活動可是他進去的時候他聽不到可能只有50%不到的人\n566680\t566920\t﹚張雅琳﹚\n592862\t598450\t民眾可以去選擇而不是說全部都是變成初級的版本這個部分我不曉得文化部研究的成果是什麼\n599588\t624045\t目前我們今年度的各個補助項目像說故事爸媽或者是那些推廣活動或者是接受我們補助的台語主流化的表演節目我們都有要求他們要標示這是一個純台語的演出或者是如果是台華混合或台客混合的時候在比例上面也能夠做出一個適當的說明那這樣的話讓我們參與的朋友們可以做一個正確的選擇\n624946\t649354\t所以在這個部分的話是什麼時候已經開始會開始執行呢?對今年度就會開始執行今年度就會開始執行也是8月的時候嗎一起購嗎OK好那最後還是要再請部長一下就是說因為部長畢竟我覺得之前擔任過華視的總經理那過去又在這個領域上面有非常多跨媒體的跨領域不管是文學作品影視作品歌謠等等的一些整合我非常希望\n650034\t650094\t謝謝大家 謝謝部長\n","txt":"張雅琳委員謝謝主席那我們有請部長好有請李部長\n部長好,非常歡迎你來到文化部,因為你自己本身就是一個應該非常了解文化的一個文化人那我想我就接續著剛剛議級委員的幾個議題我先快速的先講到轉型正義的這件事情因為我過去在民間也是有在寫這些有關於白色恐怖的這些走讀的腳本給孩子那中正紀念堂其實也是我一個腳本的主題\n議員提供了幾種不同的處理方法\n可能是像移籍委員剛剛說的部分但是也有另外一種方法我們是不是可以做更多的人權教育我們必須要有一些更批判性的思考去面對當現在的政治或社會的各種局面或是我們收到的假訊息所以這個批判性思考對於不管是聯合國同基金會都非常從2016年都開始推動的\n但是我發現一件事情就是我們國家人權博物館的預算以前其實是會有兩次的教育推廣但是我們現在我從11年看起來有1290萬112年我查不到第二期的資料如果第二期是沒有那就946萬113年我現在只有看到規劃一期\n我跟﹐\n我跟委員做個報告,原則上已經往我們是一年是兩次那後來有團體就是反映說我們大概第二期時間的執行時間就太短所以我們就把整個整變成做為一年就是一期那經費上的原則上大概是八九百那一一三年度事實上也確實申請了蠻多所以我們把經費也調贏了一些經費過來所以一一三年度可以看得出來我們核定的是一千一百多萬\n對可是他跟111年比起來是變少了耶如果是一期來說我也認同因為的確我過去也是申請這個補助案的人所以我了解的確在第二期執行上面真的是非常的緊湊所以你們要這樣做我完全沒有任何意見齁但是金額上面真的就是變少了\n我們人權管理的經費預算確實是比較緊那這個部分的話是預算不夠嗎是需要部長再來協助嗎還是怎麼樣因為剛剛我們要講嘛威權移序要處理這件事情社會共識很重要如果我們沒有足夠的資源去滾動去做這些人權教育要如何走進到下一個階段轉型正義要如何繼續下去這一部分是需要部長的支持嗎\n我跟委員報告我們現在目前也有在徵請那個促轉基金來協助這樣一部分的一個工作好那我們這部分我們會再來努力來徵請基金那這個部分我希望可以積極的去申請這個促轉基金我也希望這個運用上面可以帶給大家更多的想像好謝謝請回那再來就是說我想我也想要繼續的來請教這個部長非常了解有多少鴿子的部長就是說中正建堂裡面有一個汐水以前有一個噴水的地方\n那每到夏天以前都一直噴水嘛那以前因為台北是非常非常的炎熱到夏天很多小孩就會去那邊洗水那這已經因為疫情前幾年因為疫情的關係它關閉了那現在呢似乎也沒有開起來要讓孩子洗水我想要請部長來研究我們這個部分是不是可以提供孩子一個洗水的空間呢把噴水池重新變成讓孩子在夏天尤其是在這個氣候變遷的狀況之下可以讓他去那邊洗水這件事情是不是可行呢\n李遠列席\n臺語政策\n因為就是像如同剛剛部長也非常清楚就是作為一個主責單位因為我自己是一個講台語的家庭所以我自己非常在乎這件事情那我想跟部長先討論一件事情我們一年的國家整體語言的發展方案的預算有64億其中台語總預算只佔了15億大概23.43%這個預算到底夠不夠這個部分我覺得我們可以再來討論但是我想先討論一件事情\n﹚廣告\n﹚張雅琳\n我們有做這件事情嗎?我們現在有做這件事情嗎?我先回答剛才為什麼會比較偏向影視因為當初成立的公共電視台語台因為那個\n那個委員應該稍微瞭解一個電視台要成立跟拍片他的預算是非常高的未來我想我們會調整到其他的方式來推動台語比如台語家庭還有台語的其他表演應該說部長其實我並沒有反對我們要投資這麼高因為我像上之前我跟史哲部長諮詢的時候我也非常認同因為這個是一個空站的部分對對\n﹚張雅琳﹚\n讓更多人聽到台語聽到客語聽到這些語言喜歡這件事情喜歡這文化去學習它這部分我希望部長可以是給我們一個計畫好不好就是說我們怎麼去做這整個串聯那這個計畫是不是可以在多久的時候可以提供給我們多久多久我想請教一下一個三個月兩個月可以嗎好不好兩個月可以不可以好如果我們開始做這個方向去研究兩個月謝謝部長那再來就是說\n之前我也有講就是說我們今天剛剛已經是海灑了嘛對不對下面的要怎麼去承接親子其實是一個很重要的平台那我們其實現在有母語學習家庭跟母語傳承家庭那我想要知道說我們對於母語傳承家庭之前我也其實也有質詢部長說我們對於傳承家庭是不是有更高的一些任務給他除了只是給他獎金可是他只有在家裡講他能不能走到社區講我不曉得現在文化部有沒有進一步的規劃在這個部分\n這個部分是不是請社長跟委員報告一下這個傳承家庭的部分我們現在就是希望說他除了家裡講台語之外如果他願意成為所謂的共學家庭因為我們會賦予他們責任他們可以來跟文化部申請說還要在他的社區裡面推動10個或是15個家庭他們要一起來共學的話那這個部分我們會給他經費的支柱還有包括場地的租借或者是他們這些\n我們下禮拜還會再進行一次的諮詢會議把我們整個台語家庭的推動計畫跟我們台語界的夥伴們一起討論好了以後希望在8月份能夠正式公告9月份上路\n好 謝謝那延續這一題還有就是說我們之前呢其實是有講說我們需要有更平凡的去使用這一些我們台語的這個東西嘛那之前我們其實有講到就是說其實他們可能是說故事的爸媽或是推廣活動或是一些友善魂境可是因為之前也有台語的家庭來反映說他們可能這是像台語生活節或是這是一個台語的會盆活動可是他進去的時候他聽不到可能只有50%不到的人\n﹚張雅琳﹚\n民眾可以去選擇而不是說全部都是變成初級的版本這個部分我不曉得文化部研究的成果是什麼\n目前我們今年度的各個補助項目像說故事爸媽或者是那些推廣活動或者是接受我們補助的台語主流化的表演節目我們都有要求他們要標示這是一個純台語的演出或者是如果是台華混合或台客混合的時候在比例上面也能夠做出一個適當的說明那這樣的話讓我們參與的朋友們可以做一個正確的選擇\n所以在這個部分的話是什麼時候已經開始會開始執行呢?對今年度就會開始執行今年度就會開始執行也是8月的時候嗎一起購嗎OK好那最後還是要再請部長一下就是說因為部長畢竟我覺得之前擔任過華視的總經理那過去又在這個領域上面有非常多跨媒體的跨領域不管是文學作品影視作品歌謠等等的一些整合我非常希望\n謝謝大家 謝謝部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.349 --> 00:12.667\n張雅琳委員謝謝主席那我們有請部長好有請李部長\n\n00:17.588 --> 00:42.270\n部長好,非常歡迎你來到文化部,因為你自己本身就是一個應該非常了解文化的一個文化人那我想我就接續著剛剛議級委員的幾個議題我先快速的先講到轉型正義的這件事情因為我過去在民間也是有在寫這些有關於白色恐怖的這些走讀的腳本給孩子那中正紀念堂其實也是我一個腳本的主題\n\n00:43.371 --> 00:44.392\n議員提供了幾種不同的處理方法\n\n01:01.533 --> 01:22.522\n可能是像移籍委員剛剛說的部分但是也有另外一種方法我們是不是可以做更多的人權教育我們必須要有一些更批判性的思考去面對當現在的政治或社會的各種局面或是我們收到的假訊息所以這個批判性思考對於不管是聯合國同基金會都非常從2016年都開始推動的\n\n01:23.582 --> 01:41.487\n但是我發現一件事情就是我們國家人權博物館的預算以前其實是會有兩次的教育推廣但是我們現在我從11年看起來有1290萬112年我查不到第二期的資料如果第二期是沒有那就946萬113年我現在只有看到規劃一期\n\n01:44.718 --> 01:44.778\n我跟﹐\n\n02:12.125 --> 02:38.331\n我跟委員做個報告,原則上已經往我們是一年是兩次那後來有團體就是反映說我們大概第二期時間的執行時間就太短所以我們就把整個整變成做為一年就是一期那經費上的原則上大概是八九百那一一三年度事實上也確實申請了蠻多所以我們把經費也調贏了一些經費過來所以一一三年度可以看得出來我們核定的是一千一百多萬\n\n02:39.111 --> 02:55.809\n對可是他跟111年比起來是變少了耶如果是一期來說我也認同因為的確我過去也是申請這個補助案的人所以我了解的確在第二期執行上面真的是非常的緊湊所以你們要這樣做我完全沒有任何意見齁但是金額上面真的就是變少了\n\n02:56.910 --> 03:19.666\n我們人權管理的經費預算確實是比較緊那這個部分的話是預算不夠嗎是需要部長再來協助嗎還是怎麼樣因為剛剛我們要講嘛威權移序要處理這件事情社會共識很重要如果我們沒有足夠的資源去滾動去做這些人權教育要如何走進到下一個階段轉型正義要如何繼續下去這一部分是需要部長的支持嗎\n\n03:20.447 --> 03:48.402\n我跟委員報告我們現在目前也有在徵請那個促轉基金來協助這樣一部分的一個工作好那我們這部分我們會再來努力來徵請基金那這個部分我希望可以積極的去申請這個促轉基金我也希望這個運用上面可以帶給大家更多的想像好謝謝請回那再來就是說我想我也想要繼續的來請教這個部長非常了解有多少鴿子的部長就是說中正建堂裡面有一個汐水以前有一個噴水的地方\n\n03:49.142 --> 04:16.948\n那每到夏天以前都一直噴水嘛那以前因為台北是非常非常的炎熱到夏天很多小孩就會去那邊洗水那這已經因為疫情前幾年因為疫情的關係它關閉了那現在呢似乎也沒有開起來要讓孩子洗水我想要請部長來研究我們這個部分是不是可以提供孩子一個洗水的空間呢把噴水池重新變成讓孩子在夏天尤其是在這個氣候變遷的狀況之下可以讓他去那邊洗水這件事情是不是可行呢\n\n04:17.952 --> 04:18.232\n李遠列席\n\n04:36.779 --> 04:36.980\n臺語政策\n\n04:52.759 --> 05:21.406\n因為就是像如同剛剛部長也非常清楚就是作為一個主責單位因為我自己是一個講台語的家庭所以我自己非常在乎這件事情那我想跟部長先討論一件事情我們一年的國家整體語言的發展方案的預算有64億其中台語總預算只佔了15億大概23.43%這個預算到底夠不夠這個部分我覺得我們可以再來討論但是我想先討論一件事情\n\n05:22.466 --> 05:22.486\n﹚廣告\n\n05:33.277 --> 05:33.357\n﹚張雅琳\n\n06:03.357 --> 06:12.452\n我們有做這件事情嗎?我們現在有做這件事情嗎?我先回答剛才為什麼會比較偏向影視因為當初成立的公共電視台語台因為那個\n\n06:13.720 --> 06:34.206\n那個委員應該稍微瞭解一個電視台要成立跟拍片他的預算是非常高的未來我想我們會調整到其他的方式來推動台語比如台語家庭還有台語的其他表演應該說部長其實我並沒有反對我們要投資這麼高因為我像上之前我跟史哲部長諮詢的時候我也非常認同因為這個是一個空站的部分對對\n\n06:34.986 --> 06:35.166\n﹚張雅琳﹚\n\n07:01.535 --> 07:29.447\n讓更多人聽到台語聽到客語聽到這些語言喜歡這件事情喜歡這文化去學習它這部分我希望部長可以是給我們一個計畫好不好就是說我們怎麼去做這整個串聯那這個計畫是不是可以在多久的時候可以提供給我們多久多久我想請教一下一個三個月兩個月可以嗎好不好兩個月可以不可以好如果我們開始做這個方向去研究兩個月謝謝部長那再來就是說\n\n07:31.007 --> 07:59.929\n之前我也有講就是說我們今天剛剛已經是海灑了嘛對不對下面的要怎麼去承接親子其實是一個很重要的平台那我們其實現在有母語學習家庭跟母語傳承家庭那我想要知道說我們對於母語傳承家庭之前我也其實也有質詢部長說我們對於傳承家庭是不是有更高的一些任務給他除了只是給他獎金可是他只有在家裡講他能不能走到社區講我不曉得現在文化部有沒有進一步的規劃在這個部分\n\n08:01.089 --> 08:29.454\n這個部分是不是請社長跟委員報告一下這個傳承家庭的部分我們現在就是希望說他除了家裡講台語之外如果他願意成為所謂的共學家庭因為我們會賦予他們責任他們可以來跟文化部申請說還要在他的社區裡面推動10個或是15個家庭他們要一起來共學的話那這個部分我們會給他經費的支柱還有包括場地的租借或者是他們這些\n\n08:31.214 --> 08:36.197\n我們下禮拜還會再進行一次的諮詢會議把我們整個台語家庭的推動計畫跟我們台語界的夥伴們一起討論好了以後希望在8月份能夠正式公告9月份上路\n\n08:56.687 --> 09:24.539\n好謝謝那延續這一題還有就是說我們之前呢其實是有講說我們需要有更平凡的去使用這一些我們台語的這個東西嘛那之前我們其實有講到就是說其實他們可能是說故事的爸媽或是推廣活動或是一些友善魂境可是因為之前也有台語的家庭來反映說他們可能這是像台語生活節或是這是一個台語的會盆活動可是他進去的時候他聽不到可能只有50%不到的人\n\n09:26.680 --> 09:26.920\n﹚張雅琳﹚\n\n09:52.862 --> 09:58.450\n民眾可以去選擇而不是說全部都是變成初級的版本這個部分我不曉得文化部研究的成果是什麼\n\n09:59.588 --> 10:24.045\n目前我們今年度的各個補助項目像說故事爸媽或者是那些推廣活動或者是接受我們補助的台語主流化的表演節目我們都有要求他們要標示這是一個純台語的演出或者是如果是台華混合或台客混合的時候在比例上面也能夠做出一個適當的說明那這樣的話讓我們參與的朋友們可以做一個正確的選擇\n\n10:24.946 --> 10:49.354\n所以在這個部分的話是什麼時候已經開始會開始執行呢?對今年度就會開始執行今年度就會開始執行也是8月的時候嗎一起購嗎OK好那最後還是要再請部長一下就是說因為部長畢竟我覺得之前擔任過華視的總經理那過去又在這個領域上面有非常多跨媒體的跨領域不管是文學作品影視作品歌謠等等的一些整合我非常希望\n\n10:50.034 --> 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