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00:01:58,324\n我來回答一下因為我曾經是臺北電影節第一屆跟第二屆的主席換句話說這個電影節是在我手上創立的那針對這個陳沐浴講的話第一他就是一個電影中這個演員演多少長度跟短真的不是主角跟配角的關係沒錯他可以演很短可是他是主角就像他自己很不服氣說這個電影就叫老狐狸嘛是那這個電影我看過演得真好這樣那所以第一\n\n6\n00:02:06,653 --> 00:02:19,663\n那這個部分其實在我們來看一下我們就回歸到在主角或者是配角或者是他們在報名的時候這個對於條件上面的一個篩選的部分然後這個其實審查還是有一點點小小的爭議了那為什麼會特別來問部長因為我們的文化部變成是這個北影的指導單位那相對的來講可能也會是這個主管單位所以這個部分可能要請部長也稍微要\n\n7\n00:02:36,655 --> 00:02:45,938\n呃可能跟這個北影的部分來做一個更進一步的一個確認喔因為我們可以看到在個人的獎項的部分其實第4點喔在複選的時候其實評審可以試演員的實際的演出的比例來更換所謂的主角跟配角的一個提名的一個項目啦齁那另外呢在所謂的這個報名的部分呃我想陳秘密大哥他們是這部電影當中他們是幫他報名了男主角的一個獎項\n\n8\n00:03:04,244 --> 00:03:21,273\n但最後呢卻因爲所謂的戲份不足那因爲我過去也是在戲劇圈我們知道所謂的戲份不足這件事情其實根本沒有辦法去在角色上的一個認定因爲這個戲份不足到底是他的演出的時間不夠長還是他播出的時間他的片段被剪跳跳的戲份不足\n\n9\n00:03:26,115 --> 00:03:41,289\n所以其實這中間有很大的爭議但是以這部戲劇來說其實陳沐浴大哥他本身就是靠著他的戲劇的張力那我相信部長你也看過這部電影那陳沐浴大哥在裡面其實是非常非常重要的\n\n10\n00:03:42,149 --> 00:03:42,609\n委員會主席\n\n11\n00:04:04,798 --> 00:04:27,101\n提名角色的部分最佳男主角或者是變成所謂的最佳的男配角的這個部分來做這樣子的一個應該說權衡之有沒有這樣子的一個討論這是對於一個演出工作者的一個最基本的尊重那這個部分我不曉得北影這邊就文化部您的了解北影有做到溝通的一個管道嗎\n\n12\n00:04:27,662 --> 00:04:27,682\n好﹖\n\n13\n00:04:54,393 --> 00:04:58,716\n接下來我們再來看一下這個可能前面有幾位的這個我們的立委朋友他們也有特別提到了就是關於台灣館的這個吉祥物的部分那其實是真的很可愛但是後來也卻因為前後的說法當然也確定了這個其實還是會有一些抄襲的一個疑慮那我要講的是另外一件事情就是在於根據這個政府採購的資訊網上面我們其實可以查詢的到\n\n14\n00:05:24,013 --> 00:05:46,173\n那就是這個圖像呢他所被提供的這個單位的公司叫做蹦世界數位創意股份有限公司他從民國大概是107年開始他連續了7年取得了台灣管的一個標案那他的這個所有的標案的一個項目名稱是展覽數位內容建制採購案\n\n15\n00:05:47,614 --> 00:06:13,914\n那每一年大概是平均大概就是兩百多萬左右啦那整個七年下來喔連續七年得標連續七年大概將近有一千五百多萬那我想在這這中間的整個所有的過程喔到引發這一次的圖像抄襲的一個事件我不曉得這個文化部這個部分身為創作者算是我們的這個主管單位的文化部那這個部分是不是也要\n\n16\n00:06:14,735 --> 00:06:15,035\n有,要請相關的人講嗎\n\n17\n00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:46,725\n跟委員報告,在我們文學館委託蹦世界的這總共其實是四個標案,然後這是我長的七年是因為我們通常有標案會有後續擴充,所以這一每年其中有三次是屬於後續擴充的部分。\n\n18\n00:06:47,225 --> 00:06:50,468\n可是針對這7個標案是不是在整個招標的過程或者是招標審查的委員有沒有什麼樣的問題我們已經請文學館把這7次招標的相關文件全部都送到文化部會由我們政風處跟我們的秘書處協同來展示\n\n19\n00:07:06,822 --> 00:07:21,475\n在7年來是嗎?也就是說我們這中間其實沒有每一年都去追查他們所謂的應該是說你們沒有每一年去定期的查核是這意思嗎?就知道這個問題出來所以你們7年才一次總體檢\n\n20\n00:07:23,770 --> 00:07:38,484\n文化部裡面有一個所謂的例行的查核就由政風可是因為文化部門非常多我們不會對一個管某一個案子特別去查核他每一次等於用抽查的方式來進行所以並不是這個案子這7年來我們剛好都沒有抽到這個相關的案子那這一次就要求他們先把資料都送到文化部裡面來由政風跟秘書處來查核這整個招標的過程\n\n21\n00:07:49,614 --> 00:08:14,996\n或者是訂約的過程、履約的過程有沒有任何的瑕疵可是要累積到7年那如果他得過且過都沒有被你抽查到是不是有可能就一直這樣子飆下去然後你們也就這樣草率的通過了會有這種狀況嗎?你們將來在落實查核的部分是不是要再更嚴謹啊?這個部分謝謝委員的提醒最後在查核的部分我們會來7年的時間很長喔\n\n22\n00:08:15,756 --> 00:08:16,037\n李遠列席報告\n\n23\n00:08:31,834 --> 00:08:52,550\n另外我想請教一下就是我們每一年其實都會有所謂的從2015年通過這個法案之後其實我們都會規劃這個水下文化資產的一個展覽我不知道今年有沒有什麼樣的一個規劃跟進度這水下文化資產這個是一個蠻新的東西我是不是可以請文資局的局長回答\n\n24\n00:08:55,399 --> 00:09:14,217\n報告委員,我們每一年針對文化資產的立法到現在,我們大概每年都做了三大工作項目,就對於水上文化資產的深化研究。像現在目前經過了文獻的調查還有其他的口訪,發現了水上文化資產大家比較有興趣就是沉船。現在大概有387筆的沉船的資料。\n\n25\n00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:37,725\n但是目前只有巴騷對不對巴騷裡面是所謂的分級有的是所謂的列冊是比較有更具體經態的判定他有這個文化律師的價值的那另外我們在這這這387沉船我們會進行深化的研究另外有一些沉船的出水的文物我們就一直在整理還有保存的我修復保存\n\n26\n00:09:39,786 --> 00:10:02,204\n水下文化資產專業人才培訓推動教育所以您提到專業的文化也就是考古隊水下的考古隊但是因為我們台灣的地形比較特殊我們附近的海洋的洋流包含氣候或東北季風甚至可能因為地震的關係我們都知道其實每一個考古的潛水隊員\n\n27\n00:10:03,985 --> 00:10:04,005\n﹝討論中﹞\n\n28\n00:10:21,863 --> 00:10:38,215\n人力部門現在我們是跟一些學術研究單位來做一些合作我們用隨案養成的方式因為我們現在國內的這些學校裡面對於考古這個科系其實是少之又少現在我們大概就只有跟清華大學\n\n29\n00:10:38,895 --> 00:10:53,701\n中央研究院等這個單位大家來合作用隨案養成的方式來培育人才有沒有什麼樣一個比較近期的一個計畫或者是這個部分我們可能還要再更進一步的演繹好委員我是不是可以事後提供書面詳細的書面資料給您好好謝謝\n\n30\n00:10:55,321 --> 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規劃這個水下文化資產的一個展覽我不知道今年有沒有什麼樣的一個規劃跟進度這水下文化資產這個是一個蠻新的東西我是不是可以請文資局的局長回答\n報告委員,我們每一年針對文化資產的立法到現在,我們大概每年都做了三大工作項目,就對於水上文化資產的深化研究。像現在目前經過了文獻的調查還有其他的口訪,發現了水上文化資產大家比較有興趣就是沉船。現在大概有387筆的沉船的資料。\n但是目前只有巴騷對不對巴騷裡面是所謂的分級有的是所謂的列冊是比較有更具體經態的判定他有這個文化律師的價值的那另外我們在這這這387沉船我們會進行深化的研究另外有一些沉船的出水的文物我們就一直在整理還有保存的我修復保存\n水下文化資產專業人才培訓推動教育所以您提到專業的文化也就是考古隊水下的考古隊但是因為我們台灣的地形比較特殊我們附近的海洋的洋流包含氣候或東北季風甚至可能因為地震的關係我們都知道其實每一個考古的潛水隊員\n﹝討論中﹞\n人力部門現在我們是跟一些學術研究單位來做一些合作我們用隨案養成的方式因為我們現在國內的這些學校裡面對於考古這個科系其實是少之又少現在我們大概就只有跟清華大學\n中央研究院等這個單位大家來合作用隨案養成的方式來培育人才有沒有什麼樣一個比較近期的一個計畫或者是這個部分我們可能還要再更進一步的演繹好委員我是不是可以事後提供書面詳細的書面資料給您好好謝謝\n謝謝郭昱晴\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.023 --> 00:11.813\n謝謝主席有請小宇部長好有請李部長\n\n00:16.837 --> 00:44.890\n恭喜部長也期待因為我知道您是文化人您也曾經是影視產業當中重要的主管同時跟教育有很多的一些關聯同時又是一個藝術家也是一個文化的出版者所以其實在這個部分對您有非常多的一些期待希望將來其實在我們的文化的產業當中能有更多的一些大家想要看到的一些良性的互動跟一些發展\n\n00:46.408 --> 01:08.204\n好那接下來我們看下一張部長認識在中間那個是我啦好右邊那位您認識他嗎蠻好的朋友是陳沐浴大哥陳沐浴對上個上上個禮拜他還特別就是到我的辦公室來跟我聊天喔那當然我想最近陳沐浴大哥\n\n01:08.744 --> 01:09.244\n這部分其實我不知道部長你怎麼看\n\n01:31.330 --> 01:58.324\n我來回答一下因為我曾經是臺北電影節第一屆跟第二屆的主席換句話說這個電影節是在我手上創立的那針對這個陳沐浴講的話第一他就是一個電影中這個演員演多少長度跟短真的不是主角跟配角的關係沒錯他可以演很短可是他是主角就像他自己很不服氣說這個電影就叫老狐狸嘛是那這個電影我看過演得真好這樣那所以第一\n\n02:06.653 --> 02:19.663\n那這個部分其實在我們來看一下我們就回歸到在主角或者是配角或者是他們在報名的時候這個對於條件上面的一個篩選的部分然後這個其實審查還是有一點點小小的爭議了那為什麼會特別來問部長因為我們的文化部變成是這個北影的指導單位那相對的來講可能也會是這個主管單位所以這個部分可能要請部長也稍微要\n\n02:36.655 --> 02:45.938\n呃可能跟這個北影的部分來做一個更進一步的一個確認喔因為我們可以看到在個人的獎項的部分其實第4點喔在複選的時候其實評審可以試演員的實際的演出的比例來更換所謂的主角跟配角的一個提名的一個項目啦齁那另外呢在所謂的這個報名的部分呃我想陳秘密大哥他們是這部電影當中他們是幫他報名了男主角的一個獎項\n\n03:04.244 --> 03:21.273\n但最後呢卻因爲所謂的戲份不足那因爲我過去也是在戲劇圈我們知道所謂的戲份不足這件事情其實根本沒有辦法去在角色上的一個認定因爲這個戲份不足到底是他的演出的時間不夠長還是他播出的時間他的片段被剪跳跳的戲份不足\n\n03:26.115 --> 03:41.289\n所以其實這中間有很大的爭議但是以這部戲劇來說其實陳沐浴大哥他本身就是靠著他的戲劇的張力那我相信部長你也看過這部電影那陳沐浴大哥在裡面其實是非常非常重要的\n\n03:42.149 --> 03:42.609\n委員會主席\n\n04:04.798 --> 04:27.101\n提名角色的部分最佳男主角或者是變成所謂的最佳的男配角的這個部分來做這樣子的一個應該說權衡之有沒有這樣子的一個討論這是對於一個演出工作者的一個最基本的尊重那這個部分我不曉得北影這邊就文化部您的了解北影有做到溝通的一個管道嗎\n\n04:27.662 --> 04:27.682\n好﹖\n\n04:54.393 --> 04:58.716\n接下來我們再來看一下這個可能前面有幾位的這個我們的立委朋友他們也有特別提到了就是關於台灣館的這個吉祥物的部分那其實是真的很可愛但是後來也卻因為前後的說法當然也確定了這個其實還是會有一些抄襲的一個疑慮那我要講的是另外一件事情就是在於根據這個政府採購的資訊網上面我們其實可以查詢的到\n\n05:24.013 --> 05:46.173\n那就是這個圖像呢他所被提供的這個單位的公司叫做蹦世界數位創意股份有限公司他從民國大概是107年開始他連續了7年取得了台灣管的一個標案那他的這個所有的標案的一個項目名稱是展覽數位內容建制採購案\n\n05:47.614 --> 06:13.914\n那每一年大概是平均大概就是兩百多萬左右啦那整個七年下來喔連續七年得標連續七年大概將近有一千五百多萬那我想在這這中間的整個所有的過程喔到引發這一次的圖像抄襲的一個事件我不曉得這個文化部這個部分身為創作者算是我們的這個主管單位的文化部那這個部分是不是也要\n\n06:14.735 --> 06:15.035\n有,要請相關的人講嗎\n\n06:30.280 --> 06:46.725\n跟委員報告,在我們文學館委託蹦世界的這總共其實是四個標案,然後這是我長的七年是因為我們通常有標案會有後續擴充,所以這一每年其中有三次是屬於後續擴充的部分。\n\n06:47.225 --> 06:50.468\n可是針對這7個標案是不是在整個招標的過程或者是招標審查的委員有沒有什麼樣的問題我們已經請文學館把這7次招標的相關文件全部都送到文化部會由我們政風處跟我們的秘書處協同來展示\n\n07:06.822 --> 07:21.475\n在7年來是嗎?也就是說我們這中間其實沒有每一年都去追查他們所謂的應該是說你們沒有每一年去定期的查核是這意思嗎?就知道這個問題出來所以你們7年才一次總體檢\n\n07:23.770 --> 07:38.484\n文化部裡面有一個所謂的例行的查核就由政風可是因為文化部門非常多我們不會對一個管某一個案子特別去查核他每一次等於用抽查的方式來進行所以並不是這個案子這7年來我們剛好都沒有抽到這個相關的案子那這一次就要求他們先把資料都送到文化部裡面來由政風跟秘書處來查核這整個招標的過程\n\n07:49.614 --> 08:14.996\n或者是訂約的過程、履約的過程有沒有任何的瑕疵可是要累積到7年那如果他得過且過都沒有被你抽查到是不是有可能就一直這樣子飆下去然後你們也就這樣草率的通過了會有這種狀況嗎?你們將來在落實查核的部分是不是要再更嚴謹啊?這個部分謝謝委員的提醒最後在查核的部分我們會來7年的時間很長喔\n\n08:15.756 --> 08:16.037\n李遠列席報告\n\n08:31.834 --> 08:52.550\n另外我想請教一下就是我們每一年其實都會有所謂的從2015年通過這個法案之後其實我們都會規劃這個水下文化資產的一個展覽我不知道今年有沒有什麼樣的一個規劃跟進度這水下文化資產這個是一個蠻新的東西我是不是可以請文資局的局長回答\n\n08:55.399 --> 09:14.217\n報告委員,我們每一年針對文化資產的立法到現在,我們大概每年都做了三大工作項目,就對於水上文化資產的深化研究。像現在目前經過了文獻的調查還有其他的口訪,發現了水上文化資產大家比較有興趣就是沉船。現在大概有387筆的沉船的資料。\n\n09:15.839 --> 09:37.725\n但是目前只有巴騷對不對巴騷裡面是所謂的分級有的是所謂的列冊是比較有更具體經態的判定他有這個文化律師的價值的那另外我們在這這這387沉船我們會進行深化的研究另外有一些沉船的出水的文物我們就一直在整理還有保存的我修復保存\n\n09:39.786 --> 10:02.204\n水下文化資產專業人才培訓推動教育所以您提到專業的文化也就是考古隊水下的考古隊但是因為我們台灣的地形比較特殊我們附近的海洋的洋流包含氣候或東北季風甚至可能因為地震的關係我們都知道其實每一個考古的潛水隊員\n\n10:03.985 --> 10:04.005\n﹝討論中﹞\n\n10:21.863 --> 10:38.215\n人力部門現在我們是跟一些學術研究單位來做一些合作我們用隨案養成的方式因為我們現在國內的這些學校裡面對於考古這個科系其實是少之又少現在我們大概就只有跟清華大學\n\n10:38.895 --> 10:53.701\n中央研究院等這個單位大家來合作用隨案養成的方式來培育人才有沒有什麼樣一個比較近期的一個計畫或者是這個部分我們可能還要再更進一步的演繹好委員我是不是可以事後提供書面詳細的書面資料給您好好謝謝\n\n10:55.321 --> 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