{"id":152820,"url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152820","video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ec526bb9f1bdce9d618ddea227712a2e49cdfe559183542c3b43bbf2d64d2017307c0aca05965aab5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"林楚茵","委員發言時間":"11:42:10 - 11:48:19","影片長度":"00:06:09","會議時間":"2024-05-22T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。\n【5月22日、23日二天一次會】）","date":"2024-05-22","duration":369,"meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議","term":11,"type":"委員會","sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":17,"committees":[26],"id":"委員會-11-1-26-17"},"end_time":"2024-05-22T11:48:19+08:00","start_time":"2024-05-22T11:42:10+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":931,"blocks":[["林委員楚茵：（11時42分）謝謝主席，有請彭部長。"],["主席：有請彭部長。"],["彭部長啓明：林委員好。"],["林委員楚茵：部長好。今天22日，其實您才上任兩天，所以等一下我質詢的題目如果在您業務還來不及去理解的部分，可以讓陪同出席的這些司長或處長們來做回應。"],["彭部長啓明：謝謝委員。"],["林委員楚茵：其實我比較關注的當然就是有關於碳中和這個議題，今天大家關注的也都是這個部分，說碳中和容易，但是事實上它不是只有在環境部，比如說我現在注意到有很多的商品因為相關的碳中和名詞出現之後，它也變成是一個可以販售的宣傳嗎？包括便利商店，或者是一些食用品當中都會說我有碳中和，有碳中和感覺上不只是宣傳，好像我在購買的時候也為環保盡了一分力，但是這樣的過程當中，到底企業是不是真的做到碳中和？到底有沒有辦法做揭露？這個部分如果是產品、是商品，它的主管機關是環境部嗎？"],["彭部長啓明：其實對於這件事情，現在我們氣候署有一個碳中和的標準，我們會建議朝那個標準來進行，有些企業的確會用這樣的方式來宣揚它的淨零理念，這樣當然是很好，但是也要嚴防避免漂綠。"],["林委員楚茵：其實我擔心的是，如果它願意負起企業的社會責任ESG來做到碳中和，那是最好的，但是就擔心它變成一個宣傳的噱頭。","我們來看，現在指引到底什麼時候會上路，大家一定都在問，但是我更想問的是，今天環境部所擬定的企業宣告碳中和指引，如果企業要揭露，那揭露在哪裡？是金管會過去一直都有要求，有關於ESG的報告當中嗎？那麼它的策略是什麼？行動是什麼？未來是要改成碳中和也要做一個揭露報告書嗎？在這個揭露報告書當中，等不等同於剛剛我所詢問的，許多商品、產品揭露了它碳中和，有畫上等號嗎？如果虛偽不實，主管機關到底是環境部，還是經濟部，或者是其他的部會？如果是食品，會不會是衛福部？其實我想問的是，我現在問的這些問題有沒有跨部會的討論或是不是已經有一個方向？對於所謂的漂綠，在漂綠的過程當中，如果今天林楚茵發現它出現在企業當中，那我到底是去找環境部，還是去找經濟部？又或者是食品，我要找衛福部？"],["彭部長啓明：這個其實都是跨部會的，對於這樣的一個指引，包含我現在已經有跟金管會主委在討論，例如說我們未來的綠色金融，這是賴總統的政見，其實我們在綠色金融裡面也要有一些指引，包含反漂綠的原則，現在國際上大概已經有這樣一個標的物來處理了，所以我們大概會遵照國際上這種反漂綠的原則來進行。"],["林委員楚茵：所以我們用的是歐盟的標準，還是用什麼樣的一個國際標準？我們知道現在有兩套標準嘛！"],["彭部長啓明：對，目前這個部分，是不是請署長來說明？"],["蔡署長玲儀：跟委員報告……"],["林委員楚茵：您是？"],["彭部長啓明：氣候署署長。"],["蔡署長玲儀：我是氣候變遷署。"],["林委員楚茵：氣候署署長，署長好。"],["蔡署長玲儀：現在國際間在做碳中和都是自願性，現在我們也跟金管會還有相關的部會準備要開始對國內這些自願性的工作來做規範，根據金管會日前釋出的訊息，它會先針對金融業；至於環境部，我們會針對企業的部分，如果它要去參照國際，譬如說ISO 14068的方式來宣告碳中和，那我們會規範，希望它藉由我們一定的程序來進行。"],["林委員楚茵：所以會像金管會所要求的公發公司，在他們的報告上面做揭露嗎？如果是公發公司願意自發性來處理的話。"],["蔡署長玲儀：這個就必須要跨部會來討論。"],["林委員楚茵：好，我會問到這一題是因為我手上有拿到金融機構防漂綠參考指引，這個是由金管會來擬訂，但是我就想要詢問了，金融機構它在防漂綠的時候，我們對於這些投融資的個案來做一些指引的宣導，但是這樣的標準跟標的有沒有跟環境部做商討？到底是真綠還是假綠，由誰來判定？尤其是金融機構裡面，有人可以判定這是真綠還是假綠嗎？"],["彭部長啓明：其實這個部分，我跟金管會彭主委有討論過這個議題，我們兩個會來做這件事情。"],["林委員楚茵：好，什麼時候？有約了嗎？有沒有期程？我什麼時候可以拿到更進一步的資料跟指引的方向？因為這份指引我看過了，其實都是概念性，我覺得如果是這個概念，我必須講，金融機構也是眼睛閉著，覺得這個投資出去，錢借出去、融資出去可以回收，就回收了。"],["彭部長啓明：因為我們都有約好，但是因為我們今天都是第一次在立法院，所以等到我們稍微……"],["林委員楚茵：要多少時間？"],["彭部長啓明：我大概一、兩個月內會找他來開會。"],["林委員楚茵：兩個月內，好不好？"],["彭部長啓明：好，謝謝。"],["林委員楚茵：然後你們有更細部的指引之後，我希望我能夠了解，能夠收到相關的資訊，除了給本席辦公室之外，也給我們衛環委員會的委員，好不好？"],["彭部長啓明：好，沒問題，謝謝。"],["林委員楚茵：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝林楚茵委員的發言。","下一位請廖偉翔委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":382,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-26-17","speakers":["黃秀芳","蘇清泉","林月琴","陳菁徽","王正旭","涂權吉","王育敏","楊瓊瓔","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","黃珊珊","陳瑩","牛煦庭","洪孟楷","洪申翰","羅智強","林楚茵","廖偉翔","徐欣瑩","林淑芬","劉建國","楊曜","陳昭姿","邱鎮軍","盧縣一"],"page_start":217,"meetingDate":["2024-05-22"],"gazette_id":"1135001","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1135001_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請環境部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1135001_00004"}},"transcript":{"id":"152820","pyannote":{"name":"ronny","tool":"pyannote","data":{"url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152820","tool":"pyannote","id":"152820-pyannote"},"job_id":"QvyHJPQ6T32KdobZ","queued_at":"2024-05-30 19:25:26","status":"done","log":[{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:11","msg":"downloading https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152820"},{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:12","msg":"downloading https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ec526bb9f1bdce9d618ddea227712a2e49cdfe559183542cb80d03ba314b39b53bca61c2a45653685ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8"},{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:25","msg":"converting mp4 to wav"},{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:26","msg":"running pyannote"},{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:35","msg":"status: done"}],"result":{"result":[[5.498468750000001,7.658468750000001,"SPEAKER_00"],[8.552843750000001,9.497843750000001,"SPEAKER_00"],[11.556593750000001,26.085968750000003,"SPEAKER_00"],[25.714718750000003,26.406593750000003,"SPEAKER_02"],[26.32221875,35.62034375,"SPEAKER_00"],[36.09284375,48.93471875,"SPEAKER_00"],[49.525343750000005,63.61596875,"SPEAKER_00"],[63.78471875,66.11346875000001,"SPEAKER_00"],[66.53534375000001,69.67409375,"SPEAKER_00"],[70.46721875,78.28034375,"SPEAKER_00"],[78.97221875000001,96.57284375,"SPEAKER_02"],[96.67409375000001,107.77784375,"SPEAKER_00"],[108.28409375000001,143.95784375,"SPEAKER_00"],[144.81846875000002,146.64096875,"SPEAKER_00"],[146.80971875,150.77534375000002,"SPEAKER_00"],[151.70346875,153.62721875,"SPEAKER_00"],[153.79596875000001,156.29346875000002,"SPEAKER_00"],[156.71534375000002,186.87096875,"SPEAKER_00"],[186.97221875000002,187.51221875000002,"SPEAKER_00"],[187.54596875000001,213.17909375000002,"SPEAKER_02"],[213.17909375000002,220.99221875,"SPEAKER_00"],[218.84909375,224.04659375000003,"SPEAKER_02"],[224.97471875000002,228.48471875,"SPEAKER_01"],[225.90284375000002,227.05034375000002,"SPEAKER_02"],[227.05034375000002,229.53096875000003,"SPEAKER_00"],[229.53096875000003,255.11346875,"SPEAKER_01"],[229.54784375000003,229.90221875,"SPEAKER_00"],[255.13034375,259.83846875,"SPEAKER_01"],[259.63596875,260.58096875,"SPEAKER_00"],[260.76659375,267.46596875,"SPEAKER_00"],[265.74471875,265.79534375000003,"SPEAKER_01"],[268.41096875,271.36409375,"SPEAKER_00"],[271.46534375000005,274.70534375,"SPEAKER_01"],[274.38471875,274.62096875000003,"SPEAKER_00"],[275.31284375,308.84346875,"SPEAKER_00"],[309.06284375,316.85909375,"SPEAKER_02"],[315.81284375,316.55534375,"SPEAKER_00"],[317.01096875,318.36096875000004,"SPEAKER_02"],[317.75346875,330.12284375,"SPEAKER_00"],[319.37346875000003,320.30159375,"SPEAKER_02"],[330.56159375000004,339.52221875000004,"SPEAKER_00"],[339.52221875000004,339.74159375000005,"SPEAKER_02"],[339.74159375000005,340.19721875000005,"SPEAKER_00"],[340.19721875000005,351.95909375,"SPEAKER_02"],[347.41971875,360.78471875,"SPEAKER_00"],[360.78471875,362.32034375,"SPEAKER_02"],[361.62846875,361.91534375000003,"SPEAKER_00"],[362.32034375,362.77596875,"SPEAKER_00"],[362.35409375,362.62409375000004,"SPEAKER_02"],[362.77596875,362.79284375000003,"SPEAKER_02"],[362.79284375000003,362.80971875,"SPEAKER_00"],[362.80971875,362.87721875,"SPEAKER_02"],[362.87721875,362.97846875000005,"SPEAKER_00"],[362.97846875000005,363.02909375,"SPEAKER_02"],[363.02909375,363.04596875000004,"SPEAKER_00"],[365.61096875000004,367.88909375000003,"SPEAKER_00"],[369.25596875,369.39096875,"SPEAKER_00"]]}},"whisperx":{"name":"ronny","tool":"whisperx","data":{"url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152820","tool":"whisperx","id":"152820-whisperx","init_prompt":"會議名稱：立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。\n【5月22日、23日二天一次會】）\n發言委員：林楚茵"},"job_id":"YpVeLelQNoBawLeF","queued_at":"2024-05-30 19:25:27","status":"done","log":[{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:35","msg":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152820 already downloaded"},{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:35","msg":"running whisperx with  --language zh --model large-v3 --initial_prompt '會議名稱：立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。\n【5月22日、23日二天一次會】）\n發言委員：林楚茵'"},{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:50","msg":"merging result"},{"time":"2024-05-30 19:26:50","msg":"status: done"}],"result":{"json":"{\"segments\": [{\"start\": 5.747, \"end\": 9.099, \"text\": \"謝謝主席 主席有請我們彭部長有請彭部長\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 5.747, \"end\": 5.887, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"席\", \"start\": 5.887, \"end\": 6.309, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 6.309, \"end\": 6.429, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"席\", \"start\": 6.429, \"end\": 6.57, \"score\": 0.858}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 6.57, \"end\": 6.911, \"score\": 0.901}, {\"word\": \"請\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 6.911, \"end\": 7.172, \"score\": 0.923}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"彭\", \"start\": 7.172, \"end\": 7.292, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 7.292, \"end\": 8.577, \"score\": 0.948}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 8.577, \"end\": 8.918, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"請\"}, {\"word\": \"彭\", \"start\": 8.918, \"end\": 9.079, \"score\": 0.884}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 9.079, \"end\": 9.099, \"score\": 0.063}, {\"word\": \"長\"}]}, {\"start\": 11.598, \"end\": 35.304, \"text\": \"林委員好部長好今天22號其實才上了兩天所以等一下如果我質詢的題目如果在您業務還來不及去理解的部分可以讓您的一起陪同出席的這些司長或處長們來做回應謝謝委員好我們知道其實我比較關注的當然就是有關於碳中和這個議題我想今天大家關注的也都是這個部分但說碳中和容易但是事實上\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"林\", \"start\": 11.598, \"end\": 11.718, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 11.718, \"end\": 11.918, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 11.918, \"end\": 12.498, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 12.498, \"end\": 12.718, \"score\": 0.664}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 12.718, \"end\": 13.078, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 13.078, \"end\": 13.238, \"score\": 0.656}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 13.238, \"end\": 14.079, \"score\": 0.755}, {\"word\": \"2\"}, {\"word\": \"2\"}, {\"word\": \"號\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 14.079, \"end\": 14.259, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"才\", \"start\": 14.259, \"end\": 14.419, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 14.419, \"end\": 14.599, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 14.599, \"end\": 14.959, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 14.959, \"end\": 15.199, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 15.199, \"end\": 15.279, \"score\": 0.755}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 15.279, \"end\": 15.319, \"score\": 0.458}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 15.319, \"end\": 15.399, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 15.399, \"end\": 15.439, \"score\": 0.371}, {\"word\": \"下\", \"start\": 15.439, \"end\": 15.619, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 15.619, \"end\": 15.739, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 15.739, \"end\": 16.619, \"score\": 0.95}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 16.619, \"end\": 16.799, \"score\": 0.82}, {\"word\": \"質\"}, {\"word\": \"詢\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 16.799, \"end\": 17.099, \"score\": 0.807}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"目\", \"start\": 17.099, \"end\": 17.439, \"score\": 0.977}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 17.439, \"end\": 17.579, \"score\": 0.982}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 17.579, \"end\": 17.699, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 17.699, \"end\": 17.84, \"score\": 0.963}, {\"word\": \"您\", \"start\": 17.84, \"end\": 18.74, \"score\": 0.854}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"務\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 18.74, \"end\": 18.86, \"score\": 0.984}, {\"word\": \"及\", \"start\": 18.86, \"end\": 19.1, \"score\": 0.906}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 19.1, \"end\": 19.68, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"理\", \"start\": 19.68, \"end\": 19.9, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"解\", \"start\": 19.9, \"end\": 20.02, \"score\": 0.772}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 20.02, \"end\": 20.12, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 20.12, \"end\": 20.3, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 20.3, \"end\": 20.78, \"score\": 0.976}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 20.78, \"end\": 20.9, \"score\": 0.841}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 20.9, \"end\": 21.2, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"讓\"}, {\"word\": \"您\", \"start\": 21.2, \"end\": 21.44, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 21.44, \"end\": 22.141, \"score\": 0.929}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 22.141, \"end\": 22.261, \"score\": 0.604}, {\"word\": \"起\", \"start\": 22.261, \"end\": 22.381, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"陪\", \"start\": 22.381, \"end\": 22.541, \"score\": 0.865}, {\"word\": \"同\", \"start\": 22.541, \"end\": 22.721, \"score\": 0.954}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 22.721, \"end\": 22.921, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"席\", \"start\": 22.921, \"end\": 23.081, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 23.081, \"end\": 23.381, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 23.381, \"end\": 24.141, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"司\", \"start\": 24.141, \"end\": 24.461, \"score\": 0.791}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 24.461, \"end\": 25.221, \"score\": 0.748}, {\"word\": \"處\"}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 25.221, \"end\": 25.381, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"回\", \"start\": 25.381, \"end\": 25.922, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"應\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 25.922, \"end\": 26.422, \"score\": 0.955}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 26.422, \"end\": 26.582, \"score\": 0.915}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 26.582, \"end\": 26.762, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"知\", \"start\": 26.762, \"end\": 26.862, \"score\": 0.988}, {\"word\": \"道\", \"start\": 26.862, \"end\": 27.062, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 27.062, \"end\": 27.422, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 27.422, \"end\": 27.522, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"比\", \"start\": 27.522, \"end\": 27.942, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \"較\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"注\", \"start\": 27.942, \"end\": 28.062, \"score\": 0.862}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 28.062, \"end\": 28.302, \"score\": 0.824}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"然\", \"start\": 28.302, \"end\": 28.442, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 28.442, \"end\": 28.542, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 28.542, \"end\": 28.642, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 28.642, \"end\": 29.002, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 29.002, \"end\": 29.562, \"score\": 0.956}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 29.562, \"end\": 29.762, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 29.762, \"end\": 29.963, \"score\": 0.714}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 29.963, \"end\": 30.603, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"議\"}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 30.603, \"end\": 30.683, \"score\": 0.968}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 30.683, \"end\": 30.843, \"score\": 0.936}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 30.843, \"end\": 30.983, \"score\": 0.979}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 30.983, \"end\": 31.103, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"大\", \"start\": 31.103, \"end\": 31.223, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"家\", \"start\": 31.223, \"end\": 31.583, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"注\", \"start\": 31.583, \"end\": 31.703, \"score\": 0.971}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 31.703, \"end\": 31.783, \"score\": 0.934}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 31.783, \"end\": 31.843, \"score\": 0.628}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 31.843, \"end\": 32.003, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 32.003, \"end\": 32.223, \"score\": 0.792}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 32.223, \"end\": 32.443, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 32.443, \"end\": 32.863, \"score\": 0.94}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 32.863, \"end\": 33.583, \"score\": 0.921}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 33.583, \"end\": 33.803, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 33.803, \"end\": 34.023, \"score\": 0.788}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 34.023, \"end\": 34.224, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"容\", \"start\": 34.224, \"end\": 34.484, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"易\", \"start\": 34.484, \"end\": 34.664, \"score\": 0.884}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 34.664, \"end\": 34.824, \"score\": 0.96}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 34.824, \"end\": 35.144, \"score\": 0.809}, {\"word\": \"事\", \"start\": 35.144, \"end\": 35.284, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 35.284, \"end\": 35.304, \"score\": 0.726}]}, {\"start\": 36.464, \"end\": 61.782, \"text\": \"呃他不是只有在環境部比如說像我現在注意到是很多的商品因為我們的這相關的碳中和名詞出現之後他也變成是一個可以販售的宣傳嗎包括便利商店啦或者是一些食用品當中都會說啊我有碳中和有碳中和感覺上好像不只是宣傳而且好像我在購買的時候我為綠\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"呃\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 36.464, \"end\": 37.145, \"score\": 0.902}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 37.145, \"end\": 37.285, \"score\": 0.855}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 37.285, \"end\": 37.505, \"score\": 0.963}, {\"word\": \"只\", \"start\": 37.505, \"end\": 37.705, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 37.705, \"end\": 38.125, \"score\": 0.935}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 38.125, \"end\": 38.586, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 38.586, \"end\": 38.846, \"score\": 0.938}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 38.846, \"end\": 39.486, \"score\": 0.796}, {\"word\": \"比\", \"start\": 39.486, \"end\": 39.606, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 39.606, \"end\": 39.887, \"score\": 0.697}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 39.887, \"end\": 40.007, \"score\": 0.576}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 40.007, \"end\": 40.107, \"score\": 0.745}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 40.107, \"end\": 40.287, \"score\": 0.831}, {\"word\": \"注\", \"start\": 40.287, \"end\": 40.427, \"score\": 0.756}, {\"word\": \"意\", \"start\": 40.427, \"end\": 40.547, \"score\": 0.956}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 40.547, \"end\": 40.747, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 40.747, \"end\": 40.927, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"很\", \"start\": 40.927, \"end\": 41.168, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"多\", \"start\": 41.168, \"end\": 41.308, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 41.308, \"end\": 41.488, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 41.488, \"end\": 41.768, \"score\": 0.807}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 41.768, \"end\": 42.448, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 42.448, \"end\": 42.849, \"score\": 0.809}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 42.849, \"end\": 43.149, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 43.149, \"end\": 43.489, \"score\": 0.79}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"相\", \"start\": 43.489, \"end\": 43.829, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 43.829, \"end\": 43.929, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 43.929, \"end\": 44.15, \"score\": 0.851}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 44.15, \"end\": 44.33, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 44.33, \"end\": 44.47, \"score\": 0.957}, {\"word\": \"名\", \"start\": 44.47, \"end\": 45.49, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"詞\"}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 45.49, \"end\": 46.011, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"之\", \"start\": 46.011, \"end\": 46.211, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"後\", \"start\": 46.211, \"end\": 46.771, \"score\": 0.91}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 46.771, \"end\": 46.931, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 46.931, \"end\": 47.272, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"變\"}, {\"word\": \"成\", \"start\": 47.272, \"end\": 47.472, \"score\": 0.782}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 47.472, \"end\": 47.612, \"score\": 0.706}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 47.612, \"end\": 47.892, \"score\": 0.664}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 47.892, \"end\": 48.012, \"score\": 0.982}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 48.012, \"end\": 48.593, \"score\": 0.949}, {\"word\": \"販\"}, {\"word\": \"售\", \"start\": 48.593, \"end\": 49.593, \"score\": 0.764}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 49.593, \"end\": 49.733, \"score\": 0.935}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 49.733, \"end\": 50.874, \"score\": 0.891}, {\"word\": \"傳\"}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"包\", \"start\": 50.874, \"end\": 51.114, \"score\": 0.773}, {\"word\": \"括\", \"start\": 51.114, \"end\": 51.655, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"便\", \"start\": 51.655, \"end\": 51.795, \"score\": 0.585}, {\"word\": \"利\", \"start\": 51.795, \"end\": 51.915, \"score\": 0.58}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 51.915, \"end\": 52.135, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"店\", \"start\": 52.135, \"end\": 52.335, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"啦\", \"start\": 52.335, \"end\": 52.976, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 52.976, \"end\": 53.116, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"者\", \"start\": 53.116, \"end\": 53.216, \"score\": 0.872}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 53.216, \"end\": 53.336, \"score\": 0.724}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 53.336, \"end\": 53.496, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 53.496, \"end\": 54.056, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"食\", \"start\": 54.056, \"end\": 54.176, \"score\": 0.544}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 54.176, \"end\": 54.337, \"score\": 0.801}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 54.337, \"end\": 54.657, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 54.657, \"end\": 54.817, \"score\": 0.944}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 54.817, \"end\": 55.297, \"score\": 0.806}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"啊\", \"start\": 55.297, \"end\": 55.657, \"score\": 0.762}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 55.657, \"end\": 55.858, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 55.858, \"end\": 56.058, \"score\": 0.772}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 56.058, \"end\": 56.298, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 56.298, \"end\": 56.538, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 56.538, \"end\": 57.078, \"score\": 0.954}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 57.078, \"end\": 57.239, \"score\": 0.66}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 57.239, \"end\": 57.459, \"score\": 0.769}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 57.459, \"end\": 57.659, \"score\": 0.703}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 57.659, \"end\": 57.919, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"感\", \"start\": 57.919, \"end\": 58.439, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"覺\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 58.439, \"end\": 59.04, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 59.04, \"end\": 59.28, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 59.28, \"end\": 59.52, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 59.52, \"end\": 59.66, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"只\", \"start\": 59.66, \"end\": 59.76, \"score\": 0.912}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 59.76, \"end\": 59.9, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 59.9, \"end\": 60.321, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"傳\"}, {\"word\": \"而\", \"start\": 60.321, \"end\": 60.421, \"score\": 0.805}, {\"word\": \"且\", \"start\": 60.421, \"end\": 60.441, \"score\": 0.023}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 60.441, \"end\": 60.601, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 60.601, \"end\": 60.761, \"score\": 0.639}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 60.761, \"end\": 61.021, \"score\": 0.805}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 61.021, \"end\": 61.181, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"購\"}, {\"word\": \"買\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 61.181, \"end\": 61.622, \"score\": 0.838}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 61.622, \"end\": 61.762, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 61.762, \"end\": 61.782, \"score\": 0.002}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"綠\"}]}, {\"start\": 64.583, \"end\": 77.869, \"text\": \"對環保好像盡了一分力但是這樣的過程當中到底是不是真的企業做到碳中和到底有沒有辦法做揭露那這個部分如果是產品是商品它的主管機關是環境部嗎\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"保\", \"start\": 64.583, \"end\": 65.024, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 65.024, \"end\": 65.144, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 65.144, \"end\": 65.444, \"score\": 0.906}, {\"word\": \"盡\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 65.444, \"end\": 65.544, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 65.544, \"end\": 65.664, \"score\": 0.91}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 65.664, \"end\": 65.844, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"力\", \"start\": 65.844, \"end\": 66.604, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 66.604, \"end\": 66.744, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 66.744, \"end\": 66.984, \"score\": 0.794}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 66.984, \"end\": 67.284, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"程\", \"start\": 67.284, \"end\": 67.705, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 67.705, \"end\": 67.925, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 67.925, \"end\": 68.105, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 68.105, \"end\": 68.265, \"score\": 0.991}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 68.265, \"end\": 68.385, \"score\": 0.94}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 68.385, \"end\": 68.465, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 68.465, \"end\": 68.685, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"真\", \"start\": 68.685, \"end\": 68.945, \"score\": 0.891}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 68.945, \"end\": 69.185, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 69.185, \"end\": 70.526, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 70.526, \"end\": 70.646, \"score\": 0.824}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 70.646, \"end\": 70.766, \"score\": 0.706}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 70.766, \"end\": 70.946, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 70.946, \"end\": 71.146, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 71.146, \"end\": 71.626, \"score\": 0.95}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 71.626, \"end\": 71.826, \"score\": 0.826}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 71.826, \"end\": 71.946, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 71.946, \"end\": 72.106, \"score\": 0.961}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 72.106, \"end\": 72.206, \"score\": 0.642}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 72.206, \"end\": 72.447, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"辦\"}, {\"word\": \"法\", \"start\": 72.447, \"end\": 72.587, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 72.587, \"end\": 72.807, \"score\": 0.977}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 72.807, \"end\": 73.047, \"score\": 0.926}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 73.047, \"end\": 73.587, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 73.587, \"end\": 73.887, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 73.887, \"end\": 74.027, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 74.027, \"end\": 74.507, \"score\": 0.966}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 74.507, \"end\": 74.687, \"score\": 0.938}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 74.687, \"end\": 74.847, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 74.847, \"end\": 75.188, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"產\"}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 75.188, \"end\": 75.368, \"score\": 0.961}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 75.368, \"end\": 75.528, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 75.528, \"end\": 75.768, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 75.768, \"end\": 76.288, \"score\": 0.963}, {\"word\": \"它\", \"start\": 76.288, \"end\": 76.388, \"score\": 0.756}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 76.388, \"end\": 76.508, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 76.508, \"end\": 76.668, \"score\": 0.987}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 76.668, \"end\": 77.369, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 77.369, \"end\": 77.649, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 77.649, \"end\": 77.849, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 77.849, \"end\": 77.869, \"score\": 0.215}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}]}, {\"start\": 79.502, \"end\": 96.307, \"text\": \"報告員其實這件事情就是現在我們氣候署有一個碳中和的一個標準那我們會建議朝那個標準來進行所以有些企業他的確會用這樣方式來宣揚他的這個淨零的這個理念當然是很好但是也要嚴防避免票率\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 79.502, \"end\": 80.022, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 80.022, \"end\": 80.442, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"件\", \"start\": 80.442, \"end\": 80.622, \"score\": 0.902}, {\"word\": \"事\", \"start\": 80.622, \"end\": 80.762, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"情\", \"start\": 80.762, \"end\": 80.943, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 80.943, \"end\": 81.083, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 81.083, \"end\": 81.403, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 81.403, \"end\": 82.363, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 82.363, \"end\": 83.583, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"氣\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 83.583, \"end\": 83.763, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"署\", \"start\": 83.763, \"end\": 83.923, \"score\": 0.894}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 83.923, \"end\": 84.023, \"score\": 0.836}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 84.023, \"end\": 84.223, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 84.223, \"end\": 84.404, \"score\": 0.894}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 84.404, \"end\": 84.584, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 84.584, \"end\": 84.704, \"score\": 0.966}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 84.704, \"end\": 84.784, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 84.784, \"end\": 85.364, \"score\": 0.932}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 85.364, \"end\": 85.544, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 85.544, \"end\": 86.124, \"score\": 0.931}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 86.124, \"end\": 86.444, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"建\", \"start\": 86.444, \"end\": 86.764, \"score\": 0.93}, {\"word\": \"議\"}, {\"word\": \"朝\", \"start\": 86.764, \"end\": 86.924, \"score\": 0.888}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 86.924, \"end\": 87.324, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 87.324, \"end\": 87.885, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"進\"}, {\"word\": \"行\", \"start\": 87.885, \"end\": 88.245, \"score\": 0.961}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 88.245, \"end\": 88.445, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 88.445, \"end\": 88.745, \"score\": 0.934}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 88.745, \"end\": 88.865, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 88.865, \"end\": 89.045, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 89.045, \"end\": 89.305, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 89.305, \"end\": 89.465, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 89.465, \"end\": 89.925, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"確\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 89.925, \"end\": 90.305, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"方\", \"start\": 90.305, \"end\": 90.545, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"式\", \"start\": 90.545, \"end\": 91.806, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 91.806, \"end\": 92.186, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"揚\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 92.186, \"end\": 92.366, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 92.366, \"end\": 92.946, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"淨\"}, {\"word\": \"零\", \"start\": 92.946, \"end\": 93.106, \"score\": 0.812}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 93.106, \"end\": 93.466, \"score\": 0.888}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"理\", \"start\": 93.466, \"end\": 93.646, \"score\": 0.992}, {\"word\": \"念\", \"start\": 93.646, \"end\": 93.986, \"score\": 0.879}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"然\", \"start\": 93.986, \"end\": 94.066, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 94.066, \"end\": 94.186, \"score\": 0.964}, {\"word\": \"很\", \"start\": 94.186, \"end\": 94.366, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 94.366, \"end\": 94.846, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 94.846, \"end\": 94.987, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 94.987, \"end\": 95.087, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 95.087, \"end\": 95.107, \"score\": 0.004}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 95.107, \"end\": 95.487, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"嚴\"}, {\"word\": \"防\", \"start\": 95.487, \"end\": 95.747, \"score\": 0.949}, {\"word\": \"避\", \"start\": 95.747, \"end\": 95.867, \"score\": 0.98}, {\"word\": \"免\", \"start\": 95.867, \"end\": 96.047, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 96.047, \"end\": 96.287, \"score\": 0.949}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 96.287, \"end\": 96.307, \"score\": 0.848}]}, {\"start\": 96.707, \"end\": 115.11, \"text\": \"好,其實我擔心的就是說,如果他問易賦取企業的社會責任ESG來做到碳中和那是最好的但是就擔心他變成一個宣傳的噱頭我們來看吼,我們現在指引到底什麼社會上路大家一定都在問但是我更想問的是,如果今天\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 96.707, \"end\": 97.007, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 97.007, \"end\": 97.368, \"score\": 0.872}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 97.368, \"end\": 97.768, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"擔\"}, {\"word\": \"心\", \"start\": 97.768, \"end\": 97.909, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 97.909, \"end\": 98.009, \"score\": 0.957}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 98.009, \"end\": 98.129, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 98.129, \"end\": 98.77, \"score\": 0.956}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 98.77, \"end\": 98.99, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 98.99, \"end\": 99.17, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 99.17, \"end\": 99.491, \"score\": 0.842}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"易\", \"start\": 99.491, \"end\": 99.951, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"賦\"}, {\"word\": \"取\", \"start\": 99.951, \"end\": 100.512, \"score\": 0.959}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 100.512, \"end\": 100.912, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 100.912, \"end\": 101.113, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"社\", \"start\": 101.113, \"end\": 101.593, \"score\": 0.82}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"責\"}, {\"word\": \"任\", \"start\": 101.593, \"end\": 101.753, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"E\", \"start\": 101.753, \"end\": 102.014, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"S\", \"start\": 102.014, \"end\": 102.134, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \"G\", \"start\": 102.134, \"end\": 103.015, \"score\": 0.943}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 103.015, \"end\": 103.155, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 103.155, \"end\": 103.315, \"score\": 0.741}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 103.315, \"end\": 103.556, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 103.556, \"end\": 103.736, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 103.736, \"end\": 103.876, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 103.876, \"end\": 103.996, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 103.996, \"end\": 104.176, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"最\", \"start\": 104.176, \"end\": 104.417, \"score\": 0.977}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 104.417, \"end\": 104.737, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 104.737, \"end\": 105.178, \"score\": 0.927}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 105.178, \"end\": 105.338, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 105.338, \"end\": 105.498, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 105.498, \"end\": 105.939, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"擔\"}, {\"word\": \"心\", \"start\": 105.939, \"end\": 106.099, \"score\": 0.969}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 106.099, \"end\": 106.399, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"變\"}, {\"word\": \"成\", \"start\": 106.399, \"end\": 106.479, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 106.479, \"end\": 106.66, \"score\": 0.791}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 106.66, \"end\": 107.06, \"score\": 0.862}, {\"word\": \"傳\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 107.06, \"end\": 108.402, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"噱\"}, {\"word\": \"頭\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 108.402, \"end\": 108.722, \"score\": 0.638}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"看\", \"start\": 108.722, \"end\": 108.922, \"score\": 0.844}, {\"word\": \"吼\", \"start\": 108.922, \"end\": 109.163, \"score\": 0.796}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 109.163, \"end\": 109.443, \"score\": 0.799}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 109.443, \"end\": 109.643, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 109.643, \"end\": 109.803, \"score\": 0.964}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 109.803, \"end\": 110.084, \"score\": 0.991}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 110.084, \"end\": 110.224, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 110.224, \"end\": 110.304, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 110.304, \"end\": 110.504, \"score\": 0.643}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"社\", \"start\": 110.504, \"end\": 110.745, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 110.745, \"end\": 110.925, \"score\": 0.993}, {\"word\": \"路\", \"start\": 110.925, \"end\": 111.065, \"score\": 0.815}, {\"word\": \"大\", \"start\": 111.065, \"end\": 111.165, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"家\", \"start\": 111.165, \"end\": 111.305, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 111.305, \"end\": 111.405, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 111.405, \"end\": 111.586, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 111.586, \"end\": 111.786, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 111.786, \"end\": 112.407, \"score\": 0.932}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 112.407, \"end\": 112.527, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 112.527, \"end\": 112.627, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 112.627, \"end\": 112.887, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"更\", \"start\": 112.887, \"end\": 113.108, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 113.108, \"end\": 113.488, \"score\": 0.853}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 113.488, \"end\": 113.648, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 113.648, \"end\": 114.229, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 114.229, \"end\": 114.569, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 114.569, \"end\": 114.83, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 114.83, \"end\": 115.09, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 115.09, \"end\": 115.11, \"score\": 0.989}]}, {\"start\": 116.151, \"end\": 142.612, \"text\": \"環境部他所擬定的企業宣告碳中和的這個指引如果企業要揭露我想問的就是那揭露在哪裡是金管會過去一直都有要求有關於ESG的報告當中嗎那麼他的策略是什麼行動是什麼那麼是未來要改成是碳中和也要做一個揭露報告書嗎那在這個揭露報告書當中等不同同於剛剛上面我所詢問的就是許多的商品產品\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 116.151, \"end\": 116.371, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 116.371, \"end\": 116.532, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 116.532, \"end\": 116.692, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 116.692, \"end\": 117.032, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"擬\"}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 117.032, \"end\": 117.192, \"score\": 0.771}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 117.192, \"end\": 117.432, \"score\": 0.826}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 117.432, \"end\": 117.893, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 117.893, \"end\": 118.113, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 118.113, \"end\": 118.333, \"score\": 0.74}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 118.333, \"end\": 118.593, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 118.593, \"end\": 118.793, \"score\": 0.788}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 118.793, \"end\": 118.893, \"score\": 0.729}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 118.893, \"end\": 119.334, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 119.334, \"end\": 119.574, \"score\": 0.802}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 119.574, \"end\": 120.215, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 120.215, \"end\": 120.535, \"score\": 0.683}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 120.535, \"end\": 120.895, \"score\": 0.735}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 120.895, \"end\": 121.115, \"score\": 0.551}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 121.115, \"end\": 121.315, \"score\": 0.615}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 121.315, \"end\": 121.516, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 121.516, \"end\": 121.976, \"score\": 0.69}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 121.976, \"end\": 122.076, \"score\": 0.603}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 122.076, \"end\": 122.356, \"score\": 0.561}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 122.356, \"end\": 122.436, \"score\": 0.538}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 122.436, \"end\": 122.596, \"score\": 0.644}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 122.596, \"end\": 122.777, \"score\": 0.868}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 122.777, \"end\": 122.937, \"score\": 0.476}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 122.937, \"end\": 123.077, \"score\": 0.636}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 123.077, \"end\": 123.217, \"score\": 0.621}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 123.217, \"end\": 123.357, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"哪\", \"start\": 123.357, \"end\": 124.058, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"裡\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 124.058, \"end\": 124.218, \"score\": 0.73}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 124.218, \"end\": 124.418, \"score\": 0.702}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 124.418, \"end\": 124.958, \"score\": 0.712}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 124.958, \"end\": 125.118, \"score\": 0.787}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 125.118, \"end\": 125.219, \"score\": 0.882}, {\"word\": \"直\", \"start\": 125.219, \"end\": 125.339, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 125.339, \"end\": 125.519, \"score\": 0.692}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 125.519, \"end\": 125.659, \"score\": 0.843}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 125.659, \"end\": 125.919, \"score\": 0.681}, {\"word\": \"求\", \"start\": 125.919, \"end\": 126.46, \"score\": 0.807}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 126.46, \"end\": 126.82, \"score\": 0.715}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 126.82, \"end\": 127.04, \"score\": 0.543}, {\"word\": \"E\", \"start\": 127.04, \"end\": 127.24, \"score\": 0.802}, {\"word\": \"S\", \"start\": 127.24, \"end\": 127.26, \"score\": 0.002}, {\"word\": \"G\", \"start\": 127.26, \"end\": 127.44, \"score\": 0.676}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 127.44, \"end\": 127.701, \"score\": 0.759}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 127.701, \"end\": 128.041, \"score\": 0.786}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 128.041, \"end\": 128.821, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 128.821, \"end\": 129.102, \"score\": 0.601}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 129.102, \"end\": 129.262, \"score\": 0.702}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 129.262, \"end\": 129.422, \"score\": 0.599}, {\"word\": \"策\", \"start\": 129.422, \"end\": 129.562, \"score\": 0.759}, {\"word\": \"略\", \"start\": 129.562, \"end\": 129.722, \"score\": 0.558}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 129.722, \"end\": 129.822, \"score\": 0.754}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 129.822, \"end\": 130.122, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"行\", \"start\": 130.122, \"end\": 130.503, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"動\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 130.503, \"end\": 130.623, \"score\": 0.747}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 130.623, \"end\": 131.223, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 131.223, \"end\": 131.484, \"score\": 0.557}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 131.484, \"end\": 131.924, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"未\", \"start\": 131.924, \"end\": 132.324, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 132.324, \"end\": 132.504, \"score\": 0.681}, {\"word\": \"改\", \"start\": 132.504, \"end\": 132.745, \"score\": 0.747}, {\"word\": \"成\", \"start\": 132.745, \"end\": 132.985, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 132.985, \"end\": 133.165, \"score\": 0.602}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 133.165, \"end\": 133.385, \"score\": 0.719}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 133.385, \"end\": 133.585, \"score\": 0.609}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 133.585, \"end\": 133.845, \"score\": 0.723}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 133.845, \"end\": 134.086, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 134.086, \"end\": 134.326, \"score\": 0.811}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 134.326, \"end\": 134.446, \"score\": 0.835}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 134.446, \"end\": 134.626, \"score\": 0.647}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 134.626, \"end\": 134.766, \"score\": 0.696}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 134.766, \"end\": 135.046, \"score\": 0.647}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 135.046, \"end\": 136.047, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"書\"}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 136.047, \"end\": 136.167, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 136.167, \"end\": 136.468, \"score\": 0.601}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 136.468, \"end\": 136.628, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 136.628, \"end\": 136.908, \"score\": 0.691}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 136.908, \"end\": 137.348, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"書\"}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 137.348, \"end\": 137.749, \"score\": 0.94}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 137.749, \"end\": 137.909, \"score\": 0.634}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 137.909, \"end\": 138.029, \"score\": 0.697}, {\"word\": \"同\", \"start\": 138.029, \"end\": 138.229, \"score\": 0.739}, {\"word\": \"同\", \"start\": 138.229, \"end\": 138.449, \"score\": 0.798}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 138.449, \"end\": 139.21, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"剛\"}, {\"word\": \"剛\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 139.21, \"end\": 139.41, \"score\": 0.706}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 139.41, \"end\": 139.95, \"score\": 0.856}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 139.95, \"end\": 140.151, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 140.151, \"end\": 140.871, \"score\": 0.77}, {\"word\": \"詢\"}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 140.871, \"end\": 141.371, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 141.371, \"end\": 141.552, \"score\": 0.713}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 141.552, \"end\": 141.732, \"score\": 0.802}, {\"word\": \"許\", \"start\": 141.732, \"end\": 141.932, \"score\": 0.826}, {\"word\": \"多\", \"start\": 141.932, \"end\": 142.052, \"score\": 0.792}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 142.052, \"end\": 142.292, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 142.292, \"end\": 142.572, \"score\": 0.715}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 142.572, \"end\": 142.592, \"score\": 0.197}, {\"word\": \"產\"}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 142.592, \"end\": 142.612, \"score\": 0.444}]}, {\"start\": 144.841, \"end\": 150.25, \"text\": \"他揭露了他探綜合有畫上等號嗎那如果虛位不實\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 144.841, \"end\": 145.041, \"score\": 0.93}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 145.041, \"end\": 145.242, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 145.242, \"end\": 145.402, \"score\": 0.776}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 145.402, \"end\": 145.522, \"score\": 0.786}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 145.522, \"end\": 145.682, \"score\": 0.669}, {\"word\": \"探\", \"start\": 145.682, \"end\": 146.284, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"綜\"}, {\"word\": \"合\", \"start\": 146.284, \"end\": 146.985, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 146.985, \"end\": 147.385, \"score\": 0.936}, {\"word\": \"畫\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 147.385, \"end\": 147.686, \"score\": 0.99}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 147.686, \"end\": 148.648, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"號\"}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 148.648, \"end\": 148.788, \"score\": 0.903}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 148.788, \"end\": 149.028, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 149.028, \"end\": 149.97, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"虛\"}, {\"word\": \"位\", \"start\": 149.97, \"end\": 150.23, \"score\": 0.883}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 150.23, \"end\": 150.25, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"實\"}]}, {\"start\": 151.755, \"end\": 177.295, \"text\": \"主管機關到底是環境部還是也許是經濟部或者是其他的部會如果是食品會不會是會服部其實我想問的是我現在問的這些問題有沒有跨部會的討論或是不是已經有一個方向就是所謂的票率而這個票率的過程當中如果我今天林楚茵發現了他是出現在\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 151.755, \"end\": 151.935, \"score\": 0.976}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 151.935, \"end\": 152.556, \"score\": 0.906}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 152.556, \"end\": 152.716, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 152.716, \"end\": 152.816, \"score\": 0.767}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 152.816, \"end\": 153.116, \"score\": 0.888}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 153.116, \"end\": 153.336, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 153.336, \"end\": 154.317, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 154.317, \"end\": 154.757, \"score\": 0.979}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 154.757, \"end\": 154.957, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"許\", \"start\": 154.957, \"end\": 155.178, \"score\": 0.878}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 155.178, \"end\": 156.018, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"濟\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 156.018, \"end\": 156.799, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 156.799, \"end\": 157.039, \"score\": 0.986}, {\"word\": \"者\", \"start\": 157.039, \"end\": 157.219, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 157.219, \"end\": 157.7, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 157.7, \"end\": 157.86, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 157.86, \"end\": 158.04, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 158.04, \"end\": 158.2, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 158.2, \"end\": 159.081, \"score\": 0.927}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 159.081, \"end\": 159.261, \"score\": 0.81}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 159.261, \"end\": 159.381, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 159.381, \"end\": 159.521, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"食\", \"start\": 159.521, \"end\": 159.701, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 159.701, \"end\": 160.081, \"score\": 0.931}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 160.081, \"end\": 160.402, \"score\": 0.779}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 160.402, \"end\": 160.862, \"score\": 0.866}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"服\", \"start\": 160.862, \"end\": 161.102, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 161.102, \"end\": 161.643, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 161.643, \"end\": 161.863, \"score\": 0.817}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 161.863, \"end\": 162.023, \"score\": 0.984}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 162.023, \"end\": 162.403, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 162.403, \"end\": 162.543, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 162.543, \"end\": 162.984, \"score\": 0.968}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 162.984, \"end\": 163.404, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 163.404, \"end\": 163.644, \"score\": 0.822}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 163.644, \"end\": 163.904, \"score\": 0.878}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 163.904, \"end\": 165.265, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 165.265, \"end\": 165.445, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 165.445, \"end\": 165.566, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 165.566, \"end\": 165.766, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"跨\", \"start\": 165.766, \"end\": 165.946, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 165.946, \"end\": 166.166, \"score\": 0.752}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 166.166, \"end\": 166.867, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 166.867, \"end\": 167.167, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 167.167, \"end\": 167.327, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 167.327, \"end\": 167.507, \"score\": 0.992}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 167.507, \"end\": 167.807, \"score\": 0.986}, {\"word\": \"已\", \"start\": 167.807, \"end\": 168.388, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 168.388, \"end\": 168.728, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 168.728, \"end\": 169.068, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"方\", \"start\": 169.068, \"end\": 169.308, \"score\": 0.958}, {\"word\": \"向\", \"start\": 169.308, \"end\": 170.129, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 170.129, \"end\": 170.289, \"score\": 0.942}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 170.289, \"end\": 170.489, \"score\": 0.944}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 170.489, \"end\": 170.87, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"謂\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 170.87, \"end\": 171.31, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 171.31, \"end\": 171.67, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 171.67, \"end\": 172.271, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"而\", \"start\": 172.271, \"end\": 172.711, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 172.711, \"end\": 172.891, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 172.891, \"end\": 173.011, \"score\": 0.68}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 173.011, \"end\": 173.412, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"程\", \"start\": 173.412, \"end\": 173.852, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 173.852, \"end\": 174.072, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 174.072, \"end\": 174.272, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 174.272, \"end\": 174.452, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 174.452, \"end\": 174.613, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 174.613, \"end\": 174.773, \"score\": 0.941}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 174.773, \"end\": 175.233, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"林\", \"start\": 175.233, \"end\": 175.433, \"score\": 0.962}, {\"word\": \"楚\", \"start\": 175.433, \"end\": 175.573, \"score\": 0.855}, {\"word\": \"茵\", \"start\": 175.573, \"end\": 176.134, \"score\": 0.851}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 176.134, \"end\": 176.654, \"score\": 0.917}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 176.654, \"end\": 176.794, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 176.794, \"end\": 176.914, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 176.914, \"end\": 177.275, \"score\": 0.88}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 177.275, \"end\": 177.295, \"score\": 0.999}]}, {\"start\": 178.015, \"end\": 199.91, \"text\": \"企業當中那我到底是去找環境部還是我去找經濟部又或者是商品我要找衛福食品我要找衛福部部長報告委員這個其實都是跨部會的那對關於這樣的一個指引呢其實我們我包含我現在已經有跟今晚會主委在討論其實我們必須未來要有一些例如說綠色金融這是賴總統的這個政見\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 178.015, \"end\": 178.736, \"score\": 0.854}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 178.736, \"end\": 179.316, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 179.316, \"end\": 179.476, \"score\": 0.786}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 179.476, \"end\": 179.656, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 179.656, \"end\": 179.796, \"score\": 0.845}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 179.796, \"end\": 179.936, \"score\": 0.733}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 179.936, \"end\": 180.077, \"score\": 0.789}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 180.077, \"end\": 180.237, \"score\": 0.835}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 180.237, \"end\": 180.537, \"score\": 0.726}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 180.537, \"end\": 180.697, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 180.697, \"end\": 181.497, \"score\": 0.817}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 181.497, \"end\": 181.598, \"score\": 0.976}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 181.598, \"end\": 181.698, \"score\": 0.626}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 181.698, \"end\": 181.798, \"score\": 0.7}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 181.798, \"end\": 182.278, \"score\": 0.742}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"濟\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 182.278, \"end\": 182.798, \"score\": 0.89}, {\"word\": \"又\", \"start\": 182.798, \"end\": 182.938, \"score\": 0.689}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 182.938, \"end\": 183.139, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"者\", \"start\": 183.139, \"end\": 183.299, \"score\": 0.943}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 183.299, \"end\": 183.979, \"score\": 0.88}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 183.979, \"end\": 184.199, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 184.199, \"end\": 184.54, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 184.54, \"end\": 184.64, \"score\": 0.818}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 184.64, \"end\": 184.72, \"score\": 0.359}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 184.72, \"end\": 185.14, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"衛\"}, {\"word\": \"福\", \"start\": 185.14, \"end\": 185.3, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"食\", \"start\": 185.3, \"end\": 185.46, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 185.46, \"end\": 185.9, \"score\": 0.863}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 185.9, \"end\": 185.981, \"score\": 0.751}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 185.981, \"end\": 186.041, \"score\": 0.496}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 186.041, \"end\": 186.341, \"score\": 0.727}, {\"word\": \"衛\"}, {\"word\": \"福\", \"start\": 186.341, \"end\": 186.481, \"score\": 0.704}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 186.481, \"end\": 186.501, \"score\": 0.189}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 186.501, \"end\": 187.942, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 187.942, \"end\": 188.042, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 188.042, \"end\": 188.462, \"score\": 0.72}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 188.462, \"end\": 188.602, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 188.602, \"end\": 188.722, \"score\": 0.818}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 188.722, \"end\": 188.883, \"score\": 0.776}, {\"word\": \"跨\", \"start\": 188.883, \"end\": 189.043, \"score\": 0.916}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 189.043, \"end\": 189.343, \"score\": 0.74}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 189.343, \"end\": 189.783, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 189.783, \"end\": 190.444, \"score\": 0.921}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 190.444, \"end\": 190.884, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 190.884, \"end\": 190.964, \"score\": 0.933}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 190.964, \"end\": 191.204, \"score\": 0.91}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 191.204, \"end\": 191.384, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 191.384, \"end\": 191.504, \"score\": 0.96}, {\"word\": \"呢\", \"start\": 191.504, \"end\": 191.684, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 191.684, \"end\": 192.165, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 192.165, \"end\": 192.185, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 192.185, \"end\": 192.785, \"score\": 0.944}, {\"word\": \"包\", \"start\": 192.785, \"end\": 192.925, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"含\", \"start\": 192.925, \"end\": 193.045, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 193.045, \"end\": 193.326, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 193.326, \"end\": 193.406, \"score\": 0.733}, {\"word\": \"已\", \"start\": 193.406, \"end\": 193.566, \"score\": 0.694}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 193.566, \"end\": 193.806, \"score\": 0.788}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 193.806, \"end\": 193.986, \"score\": 0.868}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 193.986, \"end\": 194.126, \"score\": 0.64}, {\"word\": \"晚\", \"start\": 194.126, \"end\": 194.486, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 194.486, \"end\": 194.666, \"score\": 0.892}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 194.666, \"end\": 195.127, \"score\": 0.898}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 195.127, \"end\": 195.607, \"score\": 0.808}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 195.607, \"end\": 195.827, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 195.827, \"end\": 196.548, \"score\": 0.929}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"必\", \"start\": 196.548, \"end\": 196.888, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"須\"}, {\"word\": \"未\", \"start\": 196.888, \"end\": 197.148, \"score\": 0.88}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 197.148, \"end\": 197.308, \"score\": 0.851}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 197.308, \"end\": 197.468, \"score\": 0.993}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 197.468, \"end\": 197.588, \"score\": 0.962}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 197.588, \"end\": 197.869, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"例\", \"start\": 197.869, \"end\": 198.669, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 198.669, \"end\": 198.809, \"score\": 0.764}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"綠\"}, {\"word\": \"色\", \"start\": 198.809, \"end\": 198.949, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 198.949, \"end\": 199.11, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 199.11, \"end\": 199.55, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 199.55, \"end\": 199.81, \"score\": 0.982}, {\"word\": \"賴\"}, {\"word\": \"總\"}, {\"word\": \"統\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 199.81, \"end\": 199.89, \"score\": 0.746}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"政\", \"start\": 199.89, \"end\": 199.91, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"見\"}]}, {\"start\": 201.371, \"end\": 204.814, \"text\": \"所以我們用的是歐盟的標準呢?還是用什麼樣的一個國際上面的標準?你知道現在有兩套的標準嗎?對目前這個部分是不是請我們署長\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 201.371, \"end\": 201.451, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 201.451, \"end\": 201.551, \"score\": 0.789}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 201.551, \"end\": 201.651, \"score\": 0.99}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 201.651, \"end\": 201.671, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 201.671, \"end\": 201.791, \"score\": 0.799}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 201.791, \"end\": 201.892, \"score\": 0.799}, {\"word\": \"歐\", \"start\": 201.892, \"end\": 201.952, \"score\": 0.663}, {\"word\": \"盟\", \"start\": 201.952, \"end\": 202.032, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 202.032, \"end\": 202.092, \"score\": 0.332}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 202.092, \"end\": 202.192, \"score\": 0.797}, {\"word\": \"呢\", \"start\": 202.192, \"end\": 202.332, \"score\": 0.707}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 202.332, \"end\": 202.412, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 202.412, \"end\": 202.452, \"score\": 0.487}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 202.452, \"end\": 202.572, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 202.572, \"end\": 202.612, \"score\": 0.494}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 202.612, \"end\": 202.732, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"國\"}, {\"word\": \"際\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 202.732, \"end\": 202.752, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 202.752, \"end\": 202.872, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 202.872, \"end\": 202.933, \"score\": 0.572}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 202.933, \"end\": 203.013, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"你\", \"start\": 203.013, \"end\": 203.033, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"知\", \"start\": 203.033, \"end\": 203.073, \"score\": 0.5}, {\"word\": \"道\", \"start\": 203.073, \"end\": 203.173, \"score\": 0.791}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 203.173, \"end\": 203.193, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 203.193, \"end\": 203.373, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"套\", \"start\": 203.373, \"end\": 203.513, \"score\": 0.709}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 203.513, \"end\": 203.673, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 203.673, \"end\": 203.913, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"目\", \"start\": 203.913, \"end\": 204.054, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"前\", \"start\": 204.054, \"end\": 204.314, \"score\": 0.891}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 204.314, \"end\": 204.434, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 204.434, \"end\": 204.534, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 204.534, \"end\": 204.634, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 204.634, \"end\": 204.734, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 204.734, \"end\": 204.754, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"請\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 204.754, \"end\": 204.794, \"score\": 0.476}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"署\", \"start\": 204.794, \"end\": 204.814, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"長\"}]}, {\"start\": 230.836, \"end\": 247.591, \"text\": \"國際間在做碳中和都是自願性那現在我們也跟金管會還有相關的部會準備要開始來對國內這些自願性的工作來做規範那金管會他們日前釋出來的訊息他會先針對金融業那環境部的部分我們會針對企業的部分\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"國\"}, {\"word\": \"際\"}, {\"word\": \"間\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 230.836, \"end\": 231.757, \"score\": 0.861}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 231.757, \"end\": 231.917, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 231.917, \"end\": 232.137, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 232.137, \"end\": 232.337, \"score\": 0.731}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 232.337, \"end\": 232.477, \"score\": 0.935}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 232.477, \"end\": 232.618, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 232.618, \"end\": 232.818, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"自\", \"start\": 232.818, \"end\": 233.298, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"願\"}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 233.298, \"end\": 233.759, \"score\": 0.948}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 233.759, \"end\": 234.099, \"score\": 0.798}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 234.099, \"end\": 234.239, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 234.239, \"end\": 234.499, \"score\": 0.718}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 234.499, \"end\": 234.699, \"score\": 0.85}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 234.699, \"end\": 234.92, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 234.92, \"end\": 235.12, \"score\": 0.861}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 235.12, \"end\": 235.64, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 235.64, \"end\": 235.78, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"相\", \"start\": 235.78, \"end\": 236.201, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 236.201, \"end\": 236.381, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 236.381, \"end\": 237.081, \"score\": 0.901}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 237.081, \"end\": 237.982, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"備\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 237.982, \"end\": 238.363, \"score\": 0.818}, {\"word\": \"開\"}, {\"word\": \"始\", \"start\": 238.363, \"end\": 239.323, \"score\": 0.794}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"國\"}, {\"word\": \"內\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 239.323, \"end\": 239.544, \"score\": 0.908}, {\"word\": \"自\", \"start\": 239.544, \"end\": 239.904, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"願\"}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 239.904, \"end\": 240.084, \"score\": 0.988}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 240.084, \"end\": 240.224, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"工\", \"start\": 240.224, \"end\": 240.404, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"作\", \"start\": 240.404, \"end\": 240.705, \"score\": 0.858}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 240.705, \"end\": 241.705, \"score\": 0.892}, {\"word\": \"規\"}, {\"word\": \"範\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 241.705, \"end\": 241.966, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 241.966, \"end\": 242.126, \"score\": 0.843}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 242.126, \"end\": 242.526, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 242.526, \"end\": 242.866, \"score\": 0.848}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"日\", \"start\": 242.866, \"end\": 243.047, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"前\", \"start\": 243.047, \"end\": 243.547, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"釋\"}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 243.547, \"end\": 243.827, \"score\": 0.856}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 243.827, \"end\": 244.148, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"訊\"}, {\"word\": \"息\", \"start\": 244.148, \"end\": 244.308, \"score\": 0.86}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 244.308, \"end\": 244.648, \"score\": 0.855}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"先\", \"start\": 244.648, \"end\": 245.329, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"針\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 245.329, \"end\": 245.509, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 245.509, \"end\": 246.169, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 246.169, \"end\": 246.55, \"score\": 0.796}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 246.55, \"end\": 246.73, \"score\": 0.987}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 246.73, \"end\": 246.87, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 246.87, \"end\": 247.03, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 247.03, \"end\": 247.23, \"score\": 0.974}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 247.23, \"end\": 247.37, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 247.37, \"end\": 247.39, \"score\": 0.898}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"針\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 247.39, \"end\": 247.51, \"score\": 0.82}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 247.51, \"end\": 247.53, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 247.53, \"end\": 247.571, \"score\": 0.497}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 247.571, \"end\": 247.591, \"score\": 0.001}]}, {\"start\": 249.492, \"end\": 251.754, \"text\": \"所以會像金管會所要求的公發公司在他們的報告上面做揭露嗎?還是?\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 249.492, \"end\": 249.612, \"score\": 0.607}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 249.612, \"end\": 249.632, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 249.632, \"end\": 249.772, \"score\": 0.674}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 249.772, \"end\": 249.892, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 249.892, \"end\": 249.913, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 249.913, \"end\": 249.973, \"score\": 0.436}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 249.973, \"end\": 250.233, \"score\": 0.754}, {\"word\": \"求\", \"start\": 250.233, \"end\": 250.393, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 250.393, \"end\": 250.493, \"score\": 0.656}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 250.493, \"end\": 250.633, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 250.633, \"end\": 250.653, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"司\", \"start\": 250.653, \"end\": 250.733, \"score\": 0.746}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 250.733, \"end\": 250.853, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 250.853, \"end\": 250.873, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 250.873, \"end\": 250.973, \"score\": 0.658}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 250.973, \"end\": 250.993, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 250.993, \"end\": 251.194, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 251.194, \"end\": 251.214, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 251.214, \"end\": 251.414, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 251.414, \"end\": 251.554, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 251.554, \"end\": 251.734, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 251.734, \"end\": 251.754, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"?\"}]}, {\"start\": 268.462, \"end\": 284.397, \"text\": \"如果是公發公司願意自發性的來處理的話是根本報告這個就必須要跨部會來討論好因為我會問到這一題就是我手上拿到的就是金融機構房票率的一些指引那麼這個是由金管會來做擬定但是我就想要詢問了\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 268.462, \"end\": 268.702, \"score\": 0.795}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 268.702, \"end\": 268.922, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 268.922, \"end\": 269.103, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 269.103, \"end\": 269.363, \"score\": 0.872}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 269.363, \"end\": 269.563, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"司\", \"start\": 269.563, \"end\": 269.883, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"願\"}, {\"word\": \"意\", \"start\": 269.883, \"end\": 270.064, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"自\", \"start\": 270.064, \"end\": 270.344, \"score\": 0.912}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 270.344, \"end\": 270.484, \"score\": 0.81}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 270.484, \"end\": 270.904, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"處\"}, {\"word\": \"理\", \"start\": 270.904, \"end\": 271.024, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 271.024, \"end\": 271.565, \"score\": 0.811}, {\"word\": \"話\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 271.565, \"end\": 271.725, \"score\": 0.81}, {\"word\": \"根\", \"start\": 271.725, \"end\": 271.905, \"score\": 0.724}, {\"word\": \"本\", \"start\": 271.905, \"end\": 272.226, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 272.226, \"end\": 272.566, \"score\": 0.719}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 272.566, \"end\": 272.726, \"score\": 0.801}, {\"word\": \"必\", \"start\": 272.726, \"end\": 273.086, \"score\": 0.868}, {\"word\": \"須\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 273.086, \"end\": 273.307, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"跨\", \"start\": 273.307, \"end\": 273.527, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 273.527, \"end\": 274.007, \"score\": 0.681}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 274.007, \"end\": 275.349, \"score\": 0.632}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 275.349, \"end\": 275.849, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 275.849, \"end\": 275.969, \"score\": 0.665}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 275.969, \"end\": 276.269, \"score\": 0.739}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 276.269, \"end\": 276.41, \"score\": 0.711}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 276.41, \"end\": 276.55, \"score\": 0.912}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 276.55, \"end\": 276.65, \"score\": 0.68}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 276.65, \"end\": 276.87, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"手\", \"start\": 276.87, \"end\": 277.03, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 277.03, \"end\": 277.17, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"拿\", \"start\": 277.17, \"end\": 277.33, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 277.33, \"end\": 277.471, \"score\": 0.716}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 277.471, \"end\": 277.591, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 277.591, \"end\": 277.811, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 277.811, \"end\": 278.291, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 278.291, \"end\": 278.552, \"score\": 0.794}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 278.552, \"end\": 279.432, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}, {\"word\": \"房\", \"start\": 279.432, \"end\": 279.653, \"score\": 0.841}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 279.653, \"end\": 279.893, \"score\": 0.856}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 279.893, \"end\": 280.033, \"score\": 0.824}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 280.033, \"end\": 280.133, \"score\": 0.965}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 280.133, \"end\": 280.213, \"score\": 0.61}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 280.213, \"end\": 280.473, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 280.473, \"end\": 280.674, \"score\": 0.898}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 280.674, \"end\": 281.214, \"score\": 0.945}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 281.214, \"end\": 281.795, \"score\": 0.756}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 281.795, \"end\": 281.895, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"由\", \"start\": 281.895, \"end\": 282.155, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 282.155, \"end\": 282.355, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 282.355, \"end\": 282.876, \"score\": 0.793}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 282.876, \"end\": 283.316, \"score\": 0.922}, {\"word\": \"擬\"}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 283.316, \"end\": 283.796, \"score\": 0.933}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 283.796, \"end\": 283.917, \"score\": 0.655}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 283.917, \"end\": 284.017, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 284.017, \"end\": 284.117, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 284.117, \"end\": 284.237, \"score\": 0.72}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 284.237, \"end\": 284.357, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 284.357, \"end\": 284.377, \"score\": 0.477}, {\"word\": \"詢\"}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 284.377, \"end\": 284.397, \"score\": 0.0}]}, {\"start\": 285.518, \"end\": 308.308, \"text\": \"那麼金融機構他在降房票率的時候我相信就是來做投融資的時候的這些融資的個案我們來做一些指引的宣導但是這樣的標準跟標的有沒有跟環境部做商討而且到底是真率還是假率那誰來判定尤其是金融機構裡面有人可以判定這是真率還是假率嗎\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 285.518, \"end\": 286.118, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 286.118, \"end\": 286.298, \"score\": 0.844}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 286.298, \"end\": 287.139, \"score\": 0.85}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 287.139, \"end\": 287.379, \"score\": 0.638}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 287.379, \"end\": 287.399, \"score\": 0.001}, {\"word\": \"降\", \"start\": 287.399, \"end\": 287.619, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"房\", \"start\": 287.619, \"end\": 287.799, \"score\": 0.631}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 287.799, \"end\": 287.959, \"score\": 0.762}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 287.959, \"end\": 288.119, \"score\": 0.614}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 288.119, \"end\": 288.439, \"score\": 0.644}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 288.439, \"end\": 288.839, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 288.839, \"end\": 288.96, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"相\", \"start\": 288.96, \"end\": 289.18, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"信\", \"start\": 289.18, \"end\": 289.34, \"score\": 0.835}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 289.34, \"end\": 289.56, \"score\": 0.775}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 289.56, \"end\": 290.42, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 290.42, \"end\": 290.66, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"投\", \"start\": 290.66, \"end\": 290.88, \"score\": 0.822}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 290.88, \"end\": 291.24, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"資\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 291.24, \"end\": 291.541, \"score\": 0.789}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 291.541, \"end\": 291.721, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 291.721, \"end\": 291.961, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 291.961, \"end\": 292.421, \"score\": 0.979}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 292.421, \"end\": 292.861, \"score\": 0.812}, {\"word\": \"資\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 292.861, \"end\": 293.221, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"案\", \"start\": 293.221, \"end\": 293.682, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 293.682, \"end\": 294.142, \"score\": 0.797}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 294.142, \"end\": 294.302, \"score\": 0.929}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 294.302, \"end\": 294.342, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 294.342, \"end\": 294.562, \"score\": 0.852}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 294.562, \"end\": 294.722, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 294.722, \"end\": 295.062, \"score\": 0.792}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 295.062, \"end\": 295.222, \"score\": 0.883}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 295.222, \"end\": 295.942, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"導\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 295.942, \"end\": 296.043, \"score\": 0.738}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 296.043, \"end\": 296.363, \"score\": 0.721}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 296.363, \"end\": 296.783, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 296.783, \"end\": 297.003, \"score\": 0.55}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 297.003, \"end\": 297.523, \"score\": 0.915}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 297.523, \"end\": 297.963, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 297.963, \"end\": 298.123, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 298.123, \"end\": 298.223, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 298.223, \"end\": 298.384, \"score\": 0.707}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 298.384, \"end\": 298.804, \"score\": 0.774}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 298.804, \"end\": 298.944, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 298.944, \"end\": 299.124, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 299.124, \"end\": 299.624, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 299.624, \"end\": 300.104, \"score\": 0.664}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"而\", \"start\": 300.104, \"end\": 300.264, \"score\": 0.687}, {\"word\": \"且\", \"start\": 300.264, \"end\": 300.464, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 300.464, \"end\": 300.584, \"score\": 0.707}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 300.584, \"end\": 300.644, \"score\": 0.547}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 300.644, \"end\": 300.885, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"真\", \"start\": 300.885, \"end\": 301.145, \"score\": 0.838}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 301.145, \"end\": 301.805, \"score\": 0.774}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 301.805, \"end\": 302.005, \"score\": 0.927}, {\"word\": \"假\", \"start\": 302.005, \"end\": 302.265, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 302.265, \"end\": 302.705, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 302.705, \"end\": 303.466, \"score\": 0.845}, {\"word\": \"誰\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"判\", \"start\": 303.466, \"end\": 303.746, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 303.746, \"end\": 304.246, \"score\": 0.883}, {\"word\": \"尤\", \"start\": 304.246, \"end\": 304.466, \"score\": 0.718}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 304.466, \"end\": 304.586, \"score\": 0.65}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 304.586, \"end\": 304.806, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 304.806, \"end\": 304.986, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 304.986, \"end\": 305.547, \"score\": 0.776}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}, {\"word\": \"裡\"}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 305.547, \"end\": 305.767, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 305.767, \"end\": 306.007, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"人\", \"start\": 306.007, \"end\": 306.227, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 306.227, \"end\": 306.327, \"score\": 0.991}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 306.327, \"end\": 306.447, \"score\": 0.534}, {\"word\": \"判\", \"start\": 306.447, \"end\": 306.707, \"score\": 0.798}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 306.707, \"end\": 306.967, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 306.967, \"end\": 307.347, \"score\": 0.98}, {\"word\": \"真\", \"start\": 307.347, \"end\": 307.607, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 307.607, \"end\": 307.888, \"score\": 0.741}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 307.888, \"end\": 308.048, \"score\": 0.965}, {\"word\": \"假\", \"start\": 308.048, \"end\": 308.288, \"score\": 0.936}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 308.288, \"end\": 308.308, \"score\": 0.033}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}]}, {\"start\": 309.408, \"end\": 329.437, \"text\": \"報告委員,其實這個部分我跟金管會彭朱惠有討論過這個議題。兩個會來做這個事情。好,什麼時候?有約了嗎?有沒有期程?我什麼時候可以拿到更進一步的資料跟指引的方向?因為其實這份指引我看過了,但是其實都是概念性。我覺得如果是這個概念,我必須講金融機構\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 309.408, \"end\": 309.588, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 309.588, \"end\": 309.928, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 309.928, \"end\": 310.349, \"score\": 0.715}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 310.349, \"end\": 310.449, \"score\": 0.974}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 310.449, \"end\": 310.549, \"score\": 0.686}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 310.549, \"end\": 310.709, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 310.709, \"end\": 311.529, \"score\": 0.916}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 311.529, \"end\": 311.629, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 311.629, \"end\": 311.949, \"score\": 0.735}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"彭\", \"start\": 311.949, \"end\": 312.149, \"score\": 0.878}, {\"word\": \"朱\", \"start\": 312.149, \"end\": 312.33, \"score\": 0.787}, {\"word\": \"惠\", \"start\": 312.33, \"end\": 312.75, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 312.75, \"end\": 314.931, \"score\": 0.767}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"議\"}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"。\"}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 314.931, \"end\": 315.331, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"事\", \"start\": 315.331, \"end\": 315.531, \"score\": 0.627}, {\"word\": \"情\", \"start\": 315.531, \"end\": 315.691, \"score\": 0.693}, {\"word\": \"。\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 315.691, \"end\": 315.911, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 315.911, \"end\": 316.251, \"score\": 0.728}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 316.251, \"end\": 317.972, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 317.972, \"end\": 318.192, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"約\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 318.192, \"end\": 318.532, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 318.532, \"end\": 318.632, \"score\": 0.616}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 318.632, \"end\": 318.713, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 318.713, \"end\": 318.833, \"score\": 0.562}, {\"word\": \"期\", \"start\": 318.833, \"end\": 318.993, \"score\": 0.646}, {\"word\": \"程\", \"start\": 318.993, \"end\": 319.653, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 319.653, \"end\": 319.773, \"score\": 0.683}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 319.773, \"end\": 319.873, \"score\": 0.62}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 319.873, \"end\": 320.133, \"score\": 0.634}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 320.133, \"end\": 320.193, \"score\": 0.863}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 320.193, \"end\": 320.273, \"score\": 0.496}, {\"word\": \"拿\", \"start\": 320.273, \"end\": 320.413, \"score\": 0.817}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 320.413, \"end\": 320.593, \"score\": 0.695}, {\"word\": \"更\", \"start\": 320.593, \"end\": 320.954, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"進\"}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 320.954, \"end\": 321.054, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"步\", \"start\": 321.054, \"end\": 321.174, \"score\": 0.721}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 321.174, \"end\": 321.454, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"資\"}, {\"word\": \"料\", \"start\": 321.454, \"end\": 321.754, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 321.754, \"end\": 321.954, \"score\": 0.987}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 321.954, \"end\": 322.094, \"score\": 0.942}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 322.094, \"end\": 322.214, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 322.214, \"end\": 322.334, \"score\": 0.971}, {\"word\": \"方\", \"start\": 322.334, \"end\": 322.514, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"向\", \"start\": 322.514, \"end\": 322.714, \"score\": 0.724}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 322.714, \"end\": 323.155, \"score\": 0.879}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 323.155, \"end\": 323.435, \"score\": 0.635}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"份\", \"start\": 323.435, \"end\": 323.635, \"score\": 0.858}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 323.635, \"end\": 323.755, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 323.755, \"end\": 324.075, \"score\": 0.841}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 324.075, \"end\": 324.215, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"看\", \"start\": 324.215, \"end\": 324.635, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 324.635, \"end\": 325.055, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 325.055, \"end\": 325.176, \"score\": 0.901}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 325.176, \"end\": 325.316, \"score\": 0.965}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 325.316, \"end\": 325.576, \"score\": 0.723}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 325.576, \"end\": 325.736, \"score\": 0.986}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 325.736, \"end\": 325.956, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"概\", \"start\": 325.956, \"end\": 326.176, \"score\": 0.853}, {\"word\": \"念\", \"start\": 326.176, \"end\": 326.416, \"score\": 0.922}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 326.416, \"end\": 326.956, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"。\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 326.956, \"end\": 327.076, \"score\": 0.575}, {\"word\": \"覺\"}, {\"word\": \"得\", \"start\": 327.076, \"end\": 327.216, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 327.216, \"end\": 327.337, \"score\": 0.61}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 327.337, \"end\": 327.457, \"score\": 0.63}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 327.457, \"end\": 327.777, \"score\": 0.657}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"概\", \"start\": 327.777, \"end\": 327.997, \"score\": 0.931}, {\"word\": \"念\", \"start\": 327.997, \"end\": 328.577, \"score\": 0.842}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 328.577, \"end\": 328.697, \"score\": 0.793}, {\"word\": \"必\", \"start\": 328.697, \"end\": 329.277, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"須\"}, {\"word\": \"講\"}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 329.277, \"end\": 329.417, \"score\": 0.952}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 329.417, \"end\": 329.437, \"score\": 0.636}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}]}, {\"start\": 330.538, \"end\": 332.16, \"text\": \"報告委員,因為我們都有約好啦,但是因為我們都是第一次今天在立法院,所以等到我們稍微一點點上線到,我再一兩個月內會找他來開會。\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 330.538, \"end\": 330.618, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 330.618, \"end\": 330.638, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 330.638, \"end\": 330.658, \"score\": 0.009}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 330.658, \"end\": 330.678, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 330.678, \"end\": 330.698, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 330.698, \"end\": 330.718, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"約\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 330.718, \"end\": 330.738, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"啦\", \"start\": 330.738, \"end\": 330.758, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 330.758, \"end\": 330.778, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 330.778, \"end\": 330.898, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 330.898, \"end\": 331.079, \"score\": 0.557}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 331.079, \"end\": 331.099, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 331.099, \"end\": 331.159, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 331.159, \"end\": 331.179, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"第\", \"start\": 331.179, \"end\": 331.199, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 331.199, \"end\": 331.219, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"次\", \"start\": 331.219, \"end\": 331.239, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 331.239, \"end\": 331.259, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 331.259, \"end\": 331.319, \"score\": 0.653}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 331.319, \"end\": 331.339, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"立\", \"start\": 331.339, \"end\": 331.379, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"法\", \"start\": 331.379, \"end\": 331.399, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"院\", \"start\": 331.399, \"end\": 331.419, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 331.419, \"end\": 331.499, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 331.499, \"end\": 331.519, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 331.519, \"end\": 331.539, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 331.539, \"end\": 331.559, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 331.559, \"end\": 331.579, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"稍\", \"start\": 331.579, \"end\": 331.599, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"微\", \"start\": 331.599, \"end\": 331.639, \"score\": 0.499}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 331.639, \"end\": 331.699, \"score\": 0.307}, {\"word\": \"點\"}, {\"word\": \"點\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 331.699, \"end\": 331.919, \"score\": 0.682}, {\"word\": \"線\"}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 331.919, \"end\": 331.939, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 331.939, \"end\": 332.0, \"score\": 0.666}, {\"word\": \"再\", \"start\": 332.0, \"end\": 332.02, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 332.02, \"end\": 332.04, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"月\", \"start\": 332.04, \"end\": 332.12, \"score\": 0.516}, {\"word\": \"內\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 332.12, \"end\": 332.14, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 332.14, \"end\": 332.16, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"開\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"。\"}]}, {\"start\": 351.42, \"end\": 351.68, \"text\": \"謝謝林楚茵委員的發言\", \"words\": [{\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"林\", \"start\": 351.42, \"end\": 351.44, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"楚\", \"start\": 351.44, \"end\": 351.52, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"茵\", \"start\": 351.52, \"end\": 351.54, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 351.54, \"end\": 351.6, \"score\": 0.666}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 351.6, \"end\": 351.66, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"言\", \"start\": 351.66, \"end\": 351.68, \"score\": 0.0}]}], \"word_segments\": [{\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 5.747, \"end\": 5.887, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"席\", \"start\": 5.887, \"end\": 6.309, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 6.309, \"end\": 6.429, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"席\", \"start\": 6.429, \"end\": 6.57, \"score\": 0.858}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 6.57, \"end\": 6.911, \"score\": 0.901}, {\"word\": \"請\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 6.911, \"end\": 7.172, \"score\": 0.923}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"彭\", \"start\": 7.172, \"end\": 7.292, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 7.292, \"end\": 8.577, \"score\": 0.948}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 8.577, \"end\": 8.918, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"請\"}, {\"word\": \"彭\", \"start\": 8.918, \"end\": 9.079, \"score\": 0.884}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 9.079, \"end\": 9.099, \"score\": 0.063}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"林\", \"start\": 11.598, \"end\": 11.718, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 11.718, \"end\": 11.918, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 11.918, \"end\": 12.498, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 12.498, \"end\": 12.718, \"score\": 0.664}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 12.718, \"end\": 13.078, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 13.078, \"end\": 13.238, \"score\": 0.656}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 13.238, \"end\": 14.079, \"score\": 0.755}, {\"word\": \"2\"}, {\"word\": \"2\"}, {\"word\": \"號\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 14.079, \"end\": 14.259, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"才\", \"start\": 14.259, \"end\": 14.419, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 14.419, \"end\": 14.599, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 14.599, \"end\": 14.959, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 14.959, \"end\": 15.199, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 15.199, \"end\": 15.279, \"score\": 0.755}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 15.279, \"end\": 15.319, \"score\": 0.458}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 15.319, \"end\": 15.399, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 15.399, \"end\": 15.439, \"score\": 0.371}, {\"word\": \"下\", \"start\": 15.439, \"end\": 15.619, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 15.619, \"end\": 15.739, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 15.739, \"end\": 16.619, \"score\": 0.95}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 16.619, \"end\": 16.799, \"score\": 0.82}, {\"word\": \"質\"}, {\"word\": \"詢\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 16.799, \"end\": 17.099, \"score\": 0.807}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"目\", \"start\": 17.099, \"end\": 17.439, \"score\": 0.977}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 17.439, \"end\": 17.579, \"score\": 0.982}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 17.579, \"end\": 17.699, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 17.699, \"end\": 17.84, \"score\": 0.963}, {\"word\": \"您\", \"start\": 17.84, \"end\": 18.74, \"score\": 0.854}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"務\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 18.74, \"end\": 18.86, \"score\": 0.984}, {\"word\": \"及\", \"start\": 18.86, \"end\": 19.1, \"score\": 0.906}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 19.1, \"end\": 19.68, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"理\", \"start\": 19.68, \"end\": 19.9, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"解\", \"start\": 19.9, \"end\": 20.02, \"score\": 0.772}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 20.02, \"end\": 20.12, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 20.12, \"end\": 20.3, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 20.3, \"end\": 20.78, \"score\": 0.976}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 20.78, \"end\": 20.9, \"score\": 0.841}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 20.9, \"end\": 21.2, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"讓\"}, {\"word\": \"您\", \"start\": 21.2, \"end\": 21.44, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 21.44, \"end\": 22.141, \"score\": 0.929}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 22.141, \"end\": 22.261, \"score\": 0.604}, {\"word\": \"起\", \"start\": 22.261, \"end\": 22.381, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"陪\", \"start\": 22.381, \"end\": 22.541, \"score\": 0.865}, {\"word\": \"同\", \"start\": 22.541, \"end\": 22.721, \"score\": 0.954}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 22.721, \"end\": 22.921, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"席\", \"start\": 22.921, \"end\": 23.081, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 23.081, \"end\": 23.381, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 23.381, \"end\": 24.141, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"司\", \"start\": 24.141, \"end\": 24.461, \"score\": 0.791}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 24.461, \"end\": 25.221, \"score\": 0.748}, {\"word\": \"處\"}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 25.221, \"end\": 25.381, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"回\", \"start\": 25.381, \"end\": 25.922, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"應\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 25.922, \"end\": 26.422, \"score\": 0.955}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 26.422, \"end\": 26.582, \"score\": 0.915}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 26.582, \"end\": 26.762, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"知\", \"start\": 26.762, \"end\": 26.862, \"score\": 0.988}, {\"word\": \"道\", \"start\": 26.862, \"end\": 27.062, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 27.062, \"end\": 27.422, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 27.422, \"end\": 27.522, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"比\", \"start\": 27.522, \"end\": 27.942, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \"較\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"注\", \"start\": 27.942, \"end\": 28.062, \"score\": 0.862}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 28.062, \"end\": 28.302, \"score\": 0.824}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"然\", \"start\": 28.302, \"end\": 28.442, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 28.442, \"end\": 28.542, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 28.542, \"end\": 28.642, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 28.642, \"end\": 29.002, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 29.002, \"end\": 29.562, \"score\": 0.956}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 29.562, \"end\": 29.762, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 29.762, \"end\": 29.963, \"score\": 0.714}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 29.963, \"end\": 30.603, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"議\"}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 30.603, \"end\": 30.683, \"score\": 0.968}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 30.683, \"end\": 30.843, \"score\": 0.936}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 30.843, \"end\": 30.983, \"score\": 0.979}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 30.983, \"end\": 31.103, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"大\", \"start\": 31.103, \"end\": 31.223, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"家\", \"start\": 31.223, \"end\": 31.583, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"注\", \"start\": 31.583, \"end\": 31.703, \"score\": 0.971}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 31.703, \"end\": 31.783, \"score\": 0.934}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 31.783, \"end\": 31.843, \"score\": 0.628}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 31.843, \"end\": 32.003, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 32.003, \"end\": 32.223, \"score\": 0.792}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 32.223, \"end\": 32.443, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 32.443, \"end\": 32.863, \"score\": 0.94}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 32.863, \"end\": 33.583, \"score\": 0.921}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 33.583, \"end\": 33.803, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 33.803, \"end\": 34.023, \"score\": 0.788}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 34.023, \"end\": 34.224, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"容\", \"start\": 34.224, \"end\": 34.484, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"易\", \"start\": 34.484, \"end\": 34.664, \"score\": 0.884}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 34.664, \"end\": 34.824, \"score\": 0.96}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 34.824, \"end\": 35.144, \"score\": 0.809}, {\"word\": \"事\", \"start\": 35.144, \"end\": 35.284, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 35.284, \"end\": 35.304, \"score\": 0.726}, {\"word\": \"呃\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 36.464, \"end\": 37.145, \"score\": 0.902}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 37.145, \"end\": 37.285, \"score\": 0.855}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 37.285, \"end\": 37.505, \"score\": 0.963}, {\"word\": \"只\", \"start\": 37.505, \"end\": 37.705, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 37.705, \"end\": 38.125, \"score\": 0.935}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 38.125, \"end\": 38.586, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 38.586, \"end\": 38.846, \"score\": 0.938}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 38.846, \"end\": 39.486, \"score\": 0.796}, {\"word\": \"比\", \"start\": 39.486, \"end\": 39.606, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 39.606, \"end\": 39.887, \"score\": 0.697}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 39.887, \"end\": 40.007, \"score\": 0.576}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 40.007, \"end\": 40.107, \"score\": 0.745}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 40.107, \"end\": 40.287, \"score\": 0.831}, {\"word\": \"注\", \"start\": 40.287, \"end\": 40.427, \"score\": 0.756}, {\"word\": \"意\", \"start\": 40.427, \"end\": 40.547, \"score\": 0.956}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 40.547, \"end\": 40.747, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 40.747, \"end\": 40.927, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"很\", \"start\": 40.927, \"end\": 41.168, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"多\", \"start\": 41.168, \"end\": 41.308, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 41.308, \"end\": 41.488, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 41.488, \"end\": 41.768, \"score\": 0.807}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 41.768, \"end\": 42.448, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 42.448, \"end\": 42.849, \"score\": 0.809}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 42.849, \"end\": 43.149, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 43.149, \"end\": 43.489, \"score\": 0.79}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"相\", \"start\": 43.489, \"end\": 43.829, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 43.829, \"end\": 43.929, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 43.929, \"end\": 44.15, \"score\": 0.851}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 44.15, \"end\": 44.33, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 44.33, \"end\": 44.47, \"score\": 0.957}, {\"word\": \"名\", \"start\": 44.47, \"end\": 45.49, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"詞\"}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 45.49, \"end\": 46.011, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"之\", \"start\": 46.011, \"end\": 46.211, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"後\", \"start\": 46.211, \"end\": 46.771, \"score\": 0.91}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 46.771, \"end\": 46.931, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 46.931, \"end\": 47.272, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"變\"}, {\"word\": \"成\", \"start\": 47.272, \"end\": 47.472, \"score\": 0.782}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 47.472, \"end\": 47.612, \"score\": 0.706}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 47.612, \"end\": 47.892, \"score\": 0.664}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 47.892, \"end\": 48.012, \"score\": 0.982}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 48.012, \"end\": 48.593, \"score\": 0.949}, {\"word\": \"販\"}, {\"word\": \"售\", \"start\": 48.593, \"end\": 49.593, \"score\": 0.764}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 49.593, \"end\": 49.733, \"score\": 0.935}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 49.733, \"end\": 50.874, \"score\": 0.891}, {\"word\": \"傳\"}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"包\", \"start\": 50.874, \"end\": 51.114, \"score\": 0.773}, {\"word\": \"括\", \"start\": 51.114, \"end\": 51.655, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"便\", \"start\": 51.655, \"end\": 51.795, \"score\": 0.585}, {\"word\": \"利\", \"start\": 51.795, \"end\": 51.915, \"score\": 0.58}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 51.915, \"end\": 52.135, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"店\", \"start\": 52.135, \"end\": 52.335, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"啦\", \"start\": 52.335, \"end\": 52.976, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 52.976, \"end\": 53.116, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"者\", \"start\": 53.116, \"end\": 53.216, \"score\": 0.872}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 53.216, \"end\": 53.336, \"score\": 0.724}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 53.336, \"end\": 53.496, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 53.496, \"end\": 54.056, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"食\", \"start\": 54.056, \"end\": 54.176, \"score\": 0.544}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 54.176, \"end\": 54.337, \"score\": 0.801}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 54.337, \"end\": 54.657, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 54.657, \"end\": 54.817, \"score\": 0.944}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 54.817, \"end\": 55.297, \"score\": 0.806}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"啊\", \"start\": 55.297, \"end\": 55.657, \"score\": 0.762}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 55.657, \"end\": 55.858, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 55.858, \"end\": 56.058, \"score\": 0.772}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 56.058, \"end\": 56.298, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 56.298, \"end\": 56.538, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 56.538, \"end\": 57.078, \"score\": 0.954}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 57.078, \"end\": 57.239, \"score\": 0.66}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 57.239, \"end\": 57.459, \"score\": 0.769}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 57.459, \"end\": 57.659, \"score\": 0.703}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 57.659, \"end\": 57.919, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"感\", \"start\": 57.919, \"end\": 58.439, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"覺\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 58.439, \"end\": 59.04, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 59.04, \"end\": 59.28, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 59.28, \"end\": 59.52, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 59.52, \"end\": 59.66, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"只\", \"start\": 59.66, \"end\": 59.76, \"score\": 0.912}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 59.76, \"end\": 59.9, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 59.9, \"end\": 60.321, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"傳\"}, {\"word\": \"而\", \"start\": 60.321, \"end\": 60.421, \"score\": 0.805}, {\"word\": \"且\", \"start\": 60.421, \"end\": 60.441, \"score\": 0.023}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 60.441, \"end\": 60.601, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 60.601, \"end\": 60.761, \"score\": 0.639}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 60.761, \"end\": 61.021, \"score\": 0.805}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 61.021, \"end\": 61.181, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"購\"}, {\"word\": \"買\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 61.181, \"end\": 61.622, \"score\": 0.838}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 61.622, \"end\": 61.762, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 61.762, \"end\": 61.782, \"score\": 0.002}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"綠\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"保\", \"start\": 64.583, \"end\": 65.024, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 65.024, \"end\": 65.144, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 65.144, \"end\": 65.444, \"score\": 0.906}, {\"word\": \"盡\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 65.444, \"end\": 65.544, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 65.544, \"end\": 65.664, \"score\": 0.91}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 65.664, \"end\": 65.844, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"力\", \"start\": 65.844, \"end\": 66.604, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 66.604, \"end\": 66.744, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 66.744, \"end\": 66.984, \"score\": 0.794}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 66.984, \"end\": 67.284, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"程\", \"start\": 67.284, \"end\": 67.705, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 67.705, \"end\": 67.925, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 67.925, \"end\": 68.105, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 68.105, \"end\": 68.265, \"score\": 0.991}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 68.265, \"end\": 68.385, \"score\": 0.94}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 68.385, \"end\": 68.465, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 68.465, \"end\": 68.685, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"真\", \"start\": 68.685, \"end\": 68.945, \"score\": 0.891}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 68.945, \"end\": 69.185, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 69.185, \"end\": 70.526, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 70.526, \"end\": 70.646, \"score\": 0.824}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 70.646, \"end\": 70.766, \"score\": 0.706}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 70.766, \"end\": 70.946, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 70.946, \"end\": 71.146, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 71.146, \"end\": 71.626, \"score\": 0.95}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 71.626, \"end\": 71.826, \"score\": 0.826}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 71.826, \"end\": 71.946, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 71.946, \"end\": 72.106, \"score\": 0.961}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 72.106, \"end\": 72.206, \"score\": 0.642}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 72.206, \"end\": 72.447, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"辦\"}, {\"word\": \"法\", \"start\": 72.447, \"end\": 72.587, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 72.587, \"end\": 72.807, \"score\": 0.977}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 72.807, \"end\": 73.047, \"score\": 0.926}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 73.047, \"end\": 73.587, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 73.587, \"end\": 73.887, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 73.887, \"end\": 74.027, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 74.027, \"end\": 74.507, \"score\": 0.966}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 74.507, \"end\": 74.687, \"score\": 0.938}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 74.687, \"end\": 74.847, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 74.847, \"end\": 75.188, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"產\"}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 75.188, \"end\": 75.368, \"score\": 0.961}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 75.368, \"end\": 75.528, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 75.528, \"end\": 75.768, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 75.768, \"end\": 76.288, \"score\": 0.963}, {\"word\": \"它\", \"start\": 76.288, \"end\": 76.388, \"score\": 0.756}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 76.388, \"end\": 76.508, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 76.508, \"end\": 76.668, \"score\": 0.987}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 76.668, \"end\": 77.369, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 77.369, \"end\": 77.649, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 77.649, \"end\": 77.849, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 77.849, \"end\": 77.869, \"score\": 0.215}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 79.502, \"end\": 80.022, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 80.022, \"end\": 80.442, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"件\", \"start\": 80.442, \"end\": 80.622, \"score\": 0.902}, {\"word\": \"事\", \"start\": 80.622, \"end\": 80.762, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"情\", \"start\": 80.762, \"end\": 80.943, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 80.943, \"end\": 81.083, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 81.083, \"end\": 81.403, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 81.403, \"end\": 82.363, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 82.363, \"end\": 83.583, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"氣\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 83.583, \"end\": 83.763, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"署\", \"start\": 83.763, \"end\": 83.923, \"score\": 0.894}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 83.923, \"end\": 84.023, \"score\": 0.836}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 84.023, \"end\": 84.223, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 84.223, \"end\": 84.404, \"score\": 0.894}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 84.404, \"end\": 84.584, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 84.584, \"end\": 84.704, \"score\": 0.966}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 84.704, \"end\": 84.784, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 84.784, \"end\": 85.364, \"score\": 0.932}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 85.364, \"end\": 85.544, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 85.544, \"end\": 86.124, \"score\": 0.931}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 86.124, \"end\": 86.444, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"建\", \"start\": 86.444, \"end\": 86.764, \"score\": 0.93}, {\"word\": \"議\"}, {\"word\": \"朝\", \"start\": 86.764, \"end\": 86.924, \"score\": 0.888}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 86.924, \"end\": 87.324, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 87.324, \"end\": 87.885, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"進\"}, {\"word\": \"行\", \"start\": 87.885, \"end\": 88.245, \"score\": 0.961}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 88.245, \"end\": 88.445, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 88.445, \"end\": 88.745, \"score\": 0.934}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 88.745, \"end\": 88.865, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 88.865, \"end\": 89.045, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 89.045, \"end\": 89.305, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 89.305, \"end\": 89.465, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 89.465, \"end\": 89.925, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"確\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 89.925, \"end\": 90.305, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"方\", \"start\": 90.305, \"end\": 90.545, \"score\": 1.0}, {\"word\": \"式\", \"start\": 90.545, \"end\": 91.806, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 91.806, \"end\": 92.186, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"揚\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 92.186, \"end\": 92.366, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 92.366, \"end\": 92.946, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"淨\"}, {\"word\": \"零\", \"start\": 92.946, \"end\": 93.106, \"score\": 0.812}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 93.106, \"end\": 93.466, \"score\": 0.888}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"理\", \"start\": 93.466, \"end\": 93.646, \"score\": 0.992}, {\"word\": \"念\", \"start\": 93.646, \"end\": 93.986, \"score\": 0.879}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"然\", \"start\": 93.986, \"end\": 94.066, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 94.066, \"end\": 94.186, \"score\": 0.964}, {\"word\": \"很\", \"start\": 94.186, \"end\": 94.366, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 94.366, \"end\": 94.846, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 94.846, \"end\": 94.987, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 94.987, \"end\": 95.087, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 95.087, \"end\": 95.107, \"score\": 0.004}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 95.107, \"end\": 95.487, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"嚴\"}, {\"word\": \"防\", \"start\": 95.487, \"end\": 95.747, \"score\": 0.949}, {\"word\": \"避\", \"start\": 95.747, \"end\": 95.867, \"score\": 0.98}, {\"word\": \"免\", \"start\": 95.867, \"end\": 96.047, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 96.047, \"end\": 96.287, \"score\": 0.949}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 96.287, \"end\": 96.307, \"score\": 0.848}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 96.707, \"end\": 97.007, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 97.007, \"end\": 97.368, \"score\": 0.872}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 97.368, \"end\": 97.768, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"擔\"}, {\"word\": \"心\", \"start\": 97.768, \"end\": 97.909, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 97.909, \"end\": 98.009, \"score\": 0.957}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 98.009, \"end\": 98.129, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 98.129, \"end\": 98.77, \"score\": 0.956}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 98.77, \"end\": 98.99, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 98.99, \"end\": 99.17, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 99.17, \"end\": 99.491, \"score\": 0.842}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"易\", \"start\": 99.491, \"end\": 99.951, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"賦\"}, {\"word\": \"取\", \"start\": 99.951, \"end\": 100.512, \"score\": 0.959}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 100.512, \"end\": 100.912, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 100.912, \"end\": 101.113, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"社\", \"start\": 101.113, \"end\": 101.593, \"score\": 0.82}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"責\"}, {\"word\": \"任\", \"start\": 101.593, \"end\": 101.753, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"E\", \"start\": 101.753, \"end\": 102.014, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"S\", \"start\": 102.014, \"end\": 102.134, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \"G\", \"start\": 102.134, \"end\": 103.015, \"score\": 0.943}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 103.015, \"end\": 103.155, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 103.155, \"end\": 103.315, \"score\": 0.741}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 103.315, \"end\": 103.556, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 103.556, \"end\": 103.736, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 103.736, \"end\": 103.876, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 103.876, \"end\": 103.996, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 103.996, \"end\": 104.176, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"最\", \"start\": 104.176, \"end\": 104.417, \"score\": 0.977}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 104.417, \"end\": 104.737, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 104.737, \"end\": 105.178, \"score\": 0.927}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 105.178, \"end\": 105.338, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 105.338, \"end\": 105.498, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 105.498, \"end\": 105.939, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"擔\"}, {\"word\": \"心\", \"start\": 105.939, \"end\": 106.099, \"score\": 0.969}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 106.099, \"end\": 106.399, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"變\"}, {\"word\": \"成\", \"start\": 106.399, \"end\": 106.479, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 106.479, \"end\": 106.66, \"score\": 0.791}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 106.66, \"end\": 107.06, \"score\": 0.862}, {\"word\": \"傳\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 107.06, \"end\": 108.402, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"噱\"}, {\"word\": \"頭\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 108.402, \"end\": 108.722, \"score\": 0.638}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"看\", \"start\": 108.722, \"end\": 108.922, \"score\": 0.844}, {\"word\": \"吼\", \"start\": 108.922, \"end\": 109.163, \"score\": 0.796}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 109.163, \"end\": 109.443, \"score\": 0.799}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 109.443, \"end\": 109.643, \"score\": 0.886}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 109.643, \"end\": 109.803, \"score\": 0.964}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 109.803, \"end\": 110.084, \"score\": 0.991}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 110.084, \"end\": 110.224, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 110.224, \"end\": 110.304, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 110.304, \"end\": 110.504, \"score\": 0.643}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"社\", \"start\": 110.504, \"end\": 110.745, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 110.745, \"end\": 110.925, \"score\": 0.993}, {\"word\": \"路\", \"start\": 110.925, \"end\": 111.065, \"score\": 0.815}, {\"word\": \"大\", \"start\": 111.065, \"end\": 111.165, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"家\", \"start\": 111.165, \"end\": 111.305, \"score\": 0.887}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 111.305, \"end\": 111.405, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 111.405, \"end\": 111.586, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 111.586, \"end\": 111.786, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 111.786, \"end\": 112.407, \"score\": 0.932}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 112.407, \"end\": 112.527, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 112.527, \"end\": 112.627, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 112.627, \"end\": 112.887, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"更\", \"start\": 112.887, \"end\": 113.108, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 113.108, \"end\": 113.488, \"score\": 0.853}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 113.488, \"end\": 113.648, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 113.648, \"end\": 114.229, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 114.229, \"end\": 114.569, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 114.569, \"end\": 114.83, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 114.83, \"end\": 115.09, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 115.09, \"end\": 115.11, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 116.151, \"end\": 116.371, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 116.371, \"end\": 116.532, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 116.532, \"end\": 116.692, \"score\": 0.919}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 116.692, \"end\": 117.032, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"擬\"}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 117.032, \"end\": 117.192, \"score\": 0.771}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 117.192, \"end\": 117.432, \"score\": 0.826}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 117.432, \"end\": 117.893, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 117.893, \"end\": 118.113, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 118.113, \"end\": 118.333, \"score\": 0.74}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 118.333, \"end\": 118.593, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 118.593, \"end\": 118.793, \"score\": 0.788}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 118.793, \"end\": 118.893, \"score\": 0.729}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 118.893, \"end\": 119.334, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 119.334, \"end\": 119.574, \"score\": 0.802}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 119.574, \"end\": 120.215, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 120.215, \"end\": 120.535, \"score\": 0.683}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 120.535, \"end\": 120.895, \"score\": 0.735}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 120.895, \"end\": 121.115, \"score\": 0.551}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 121.115, \"end\": 121.315, \"score\": 0.615}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 121.315, \"end\": 121.516, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 121.516, \"end\": 121.976, \"score\": 0.69}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 121.976, \"end\": 122.076, \"score\": 0.603}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 122.076, \"end\": 122.356, \"score\": 0.561}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 122.356, \"end\": 122.436, \"score\": 0.538}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 122.436, \"end\": 122.596, \"score\": 0.644}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 122.596, \"end\": 122.777, \"score\": 0.868}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 122.777, \"end\": 122.937, \"score\": 0.476}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 122.937, \"end\": 123.077, \"score\": 0.636}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 123.077, \"end\": 123.217, \"score\": 0.621}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 123.217, \"end\": 123.357, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"哪\", \"start\": 123.357, \"end\": 124.058, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"裡\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 124.058, \"end\": 124.218, \"score\": 0.73}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 124.218, \"end\": 124.418, \"score\": 0.702}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 124.418, \"end\": 124.958, \"score\": 0.712}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 124.958, \"end\": 125.118, \"score\": 0.787}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 125.118, \"end\": 125.219, \"score\": 0.882}, {\"word\": \"直\", \"start\": 125.219, \"end\": 125.339, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 125.339, \"end\": 125.519, \"score\": 0.692}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 125.519, \"end\": 125.659, \"score\": 0.843}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 125.659, \"end\": 125.919, \"score\": 0.681}, {\"word\": \"求\", \"start\": 125.919, \"end\": 126.46, \"score\": 0.807}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 126.46, \"end\": 126.82, \"score\": 0.715}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 126.82, \"end\": 127.04, \"score\": 0.543}, {\"word\": \"E\", \"start\": 127.04, \"end\": 127.24, \"score\": 0.802}, {\"word\": \"S\", \"start\": 127.24, \"end\": 127.26, \"score\": 0.002}, {\"word\": \"G\", \"start\": 127.26, \"end\": 127.44, \"score\": 0.676}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 127.44, \"end\": 127.701, \"score\": 0.759}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 127.701, \"end\": 128.041, \"score\": 0.786}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 128.041, \"end\": 128.821, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 128.821, \"end\": 129.102, \"score\": 0.601}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 129.102, \"end\": 129.262, \"score\": 0.702}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 129.262, \"end\": 129.422, \"score\": 0.599}, {\"word\": \"策\", \"start\": 129.422, \"end\": 129.562, \"score\": 0.759}, {\"word\": \"略\", \"start\": 129.562, \"end\": 129.722, \"score\": 0.558}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 129.722, \"end\": 129.822, \"score\": 0.754}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 129.822, \"end\": 130.122, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"行\", \"start\": 130.122, \"end\": 130.503, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"動\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 130.503, \"end\": 130.623, \"score\": 0.747}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 130.623, \"end\": 131.223, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 131.223, \"end\": 131.484, \"score\": 0.557}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 131.484, \"end\": 131.924, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"未\", \"start\": 131.924, \"end\": 132.324, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 132.324, \"end\": 132.504, \"score\": 0.681}, {\"word\": \"改\", \"start\": 132.504, \"end\": 132.745, \"score\": 0.747}, {\"word\": \"成\", \"start\": 132.745, \"end\": 132.985, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 132.985, \"end\": 133.165, \"score\": 0.602}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 133.165, \"end\": 133.385, \"score\": 0.719}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 133.385, \"end\": 133.585, \"score\": 0.609}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 133.585, \"end\": 133.845, \"score\": 0.723}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 133.845, \"end\": 134.086, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 134.086, \"end\": 134.326, \"score\": 0.811}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 134.326, \"end\": 134.446, \"score\": 0.835}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 134.446, \"end\": 134.626, \"score\": 0.647}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 134.626, \"end\": 134.766, \"score\": 0.696}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 134.766, \"end\": 135.046, \"score\": 0.647}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 135.046, \"end\": 136.047, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"書\"}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 136.047, \"end\": 136.167, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 136.167, \"end\": 136.468, \"score\": 0.601}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 136.468, \"end\": 136.628, \"score\": 0.825}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 136.628, \"end\": 136.908, \"score\": 0.691}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 136.908, \"end\": 137.348, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"書\"}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 137.348, \"end\": 137.749, \"score\": 0.94}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 137.749, \"end\": 137.909, \"score\": 0.634}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 137.909, \"end\": 138.029, \"score\": 0.697}, {\"word\": \"同\", \"start\": 138.029, \"end\": 138.229, \"score\": 0.739}, {\"word\": \"同\", \"start\": 138.229, \"end\": 138.449, \"score\": 0.798}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 138.449, \"end\": 139.21, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"剛\"}, {\"word\": \"剛\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 139.21, \"end\": 139.41, \"score\": 0.706}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 139.41, \"end\": 139.95, \"score\": 0.856}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 139.95, \"end\": 140.151, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 140.151, \"end\": 140.871, \"score\": 0.77}, {\"word\": \"詢\"}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 140.871, \"end\": 141.371, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 141.371, \"end\": 141.552, \"score\": 0.713}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 141.552, \"end\": 141.732, \"score\": 0.802}, {\"word\": \"許\", \"start\": 141.732, \"end\": 141.932, \"score\": 0.826}, {\"word\": \"多\", \"start\": 141.932, \"end\": 142.052, \"score\": 0.792}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 142.052, \"end\": 142.292, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 142.292, \"end\": 142.572, \"score\": 0.715}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 142.572, \"end\": 142.592, \"score\": 0.197}, {\"word\": \"產\"}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 142.592, \"end\": 142.612, \"score\": 0.444}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 144.841, \"end\": 145.041, \"score\": 0.93}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 145.041, \"end\": 145.242, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 145.242, \"end\": 145.402, \"score\": 0.776}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 145.402, \"end\": 145.522, \"score\": 0.786}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 145.522, \"end\": 145.682, \"score\": 0.669}, {\"word\": \"探\", \"start\": 145.682, \"end\": 146.284, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"綜\"}, {\"word\": \"合\", \"start\": 146.284, \"end\": 146.985, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 146.985, \"end\": 147.385, \"score\": 0.936}, {\"word\": \"畫\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 147.385, \"end\": 147.686, \"score\": 0.99}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 147.686, \"end\": 148.648, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"號\"}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 148.648, \"end\": 148.788, \"score\": 0.903}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 148.788, \"end\": 149.028, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 149.028, \"end\": 149.97, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"虛\"}, {\"word\": \"位\", \"start\": 149.97, \"end\": 150.23, \"score\": 0.883}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 150.23, \"end\": 150.25, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 151.755, \"end\": 151.935, \"score\": 0.976}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 151.935, \"end\": 152.556, \"score\": 0.906}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 152.556, \"end\": 152.716, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 152.716, \"end\": 152.816, \"score\": 0.767}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 152.816, \"end\": 153.116, \"score\": 0.888}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 153.116, \"end\": 153.336, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 153.336, \"end\": 154.317, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 154.317, \"end\": 154.757, \"score\": 0.979}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 154.757, \"end\": 154.957, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"許\", \"start\": 154.957, \"end\": 155.178, \"score\": 0.878}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 155.178, \"end\": 156.018, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"濟\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 156.018, \"end\": 156.799, \"score\": 0.9}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 156.799, \"end\": 157.039, \"score\": 0.986}, {\"word\": \"者\", \"start\": 157.039, \"end\": 157.219, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 157.219, \"end\": 157.7, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 157.7, \"end\": 157.86, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 157.86, \"end\": 158.04, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 158.04, \"end\": 158.2, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 158.2, \"end\": 159.081, \"score\": 0.927}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 159.081, \"end\": 159.261, \"score\": 0.81}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 159.261, \"end\": 159.381, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 159.381, \"end\": 159.521, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"食\", \"start\": 159.521, \"end\": 159.701, \"score\": 0.946}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 159.701, \"end\": 160.081, \"score\": 0.931}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 160.081, \"end\": 160.402, \"score\": 0.779}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 160.402, \"end\": 160.862, \"score\": 0.866}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"服\", \"start\": 160.862, \"end\": 161.102, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 161.102, \"end\": 161.643, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 161.643, \"end\": 161.863, \"score\": 0.817}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 161.863, \"end\": 162.023, \"score\": 0.984}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 162.023, \"end\": 162.403, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 162.403, \"end\": 162.543, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 162.543, \"end\": 162.984, \"score\": 0.968}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 162.984, \"end\": 163.404, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 163.404, \"end\": 163.644, \"score\": 0.822}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 163.644, \"end\": 163.904, \"score\": 0.878}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 163.904, \"end\": 165.265, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 165.265, \"end\": 165.445, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 165.445, \"end\": 165.566, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 165.566, \"end\": 165.766, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"跨\", \"start\": 165.766, \"end\": 165.946, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 165.946, \"end\": 166.166, \"score\": 0.752}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 166.166, \"end\": 166.867, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 166.867, \"end\": 167.167, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 167.167, \"end\": 167.327, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 167.327, \"end\": 167.507, \"score\": 0.992}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 167.507, \"end\": 167.807, \"score\": 0.986}, {\"word\": \"已\", \"start\": 167.807, \"end\": 168.388, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 168.388, \"end\": 168.728, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 168.728, \"end\": 169.068, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"方\", \"start\": 169.068, \"end\": 169.308, \"score\": 0.958}, {\"word\": \"向\", \"start\": 169.308, \"end\": 170.129, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 170.129, \"end\": 170.289, \"score\": 0.942}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 170.289, \"end\": 170.489, \"score\": 0.944}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 170.489, \"end\": 170.87, \"score\": 0.911}, {\"word\": \"謂\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 170.87, \"end\": 171.31, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 171.31, \"end\": 171.67, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 171.67, \"end\": 172.271, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"而\", \"start\": 172.271, \"end\": 172.711, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 172.711, \"end\": 172.891, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 172.891, \"end\": 173.011, \"score\": 0.68}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 173.011, \"end\": 173.412, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"程\", \"start\": 173.412, \"end\": 173.852, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 173.852, \"end\": 174.072, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 174.072, \"end\": 174.272, \"score\": 0.967}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 174.272, \"end\": 174.452, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 174.452, \"end\": 174.613, \"score\": 0.995}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 174.613, \"end\": 174.773, \"score\": 0.941}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 174.773, \"end\": 175.233, \"score\": 0.981}, {\"word\": \"林\", \"start\": 175.233, \"end\": 175.433, \"score\": 0.962}, {\"word\": \"楚\", \"start\": 175.433, \"end\": 175.573, \"score\": 0.855}, {\"word\": \"茵\", \"start\": 175.573, \"end\": 176.134, \"score\": 0.851}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 176.134, \"end\": 176.654, \"score\": 0.917}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 176.654, \"end\": 176.794, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 176.794, \"end\": 176.914, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 176.914, \"end\": 177.275, \"score\": 0.88}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 177.275, \"end\": 177.295, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 178.015, \"end\": 178.736, \"score\": 0.854}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"當\"}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 178.736, \"end\": 179.316, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 179.316, \"end\": 179.476, \"score\": 0.786}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 179.476, \"end\": 179.656, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 179.656, \"end\": 179.796, \"score\": 0.845}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 179.796, \"end\": 179.936, \"score\": 0.733}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 179.936, \"end\": 180.077, \"score\": 0.789}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 180.077, \"end\": 180.237, \"score\": 0.835}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 180.237, \"end\": 180.537, \"score\": 0.726}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 180.537, \"end\": 180.697, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 180.697, \"end\": 181.497, \"score\": 0.817}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 181.497, \"end\": 181.598, \"score\": 0.976}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 181.598, \"end\": 181.698, \"score\": 0.626}, {\"word\": \"去\", \"start\": 181.698, \"end\": 181.798, \"score\": 0.7}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 181.798, \"end\": 182.278, \"score\": 0.742}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"濟\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 182.278, \"end\": 182.798, \"score\": 0.89}, {\"word\": \"又\", \"start\": 182.798, \"end\": 182.938, \"score\": 0.689}, {\"word\": \"或\", \"start\": 182.938, \"end\": 183.139, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"者\", \"start\": 183.139, \"end\": 183.299, \"score\": 0.943}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 183.299, \"end\": 183.979, \"score\": 0.88}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 183.979, \"end\": 184.199, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 184.199, \"end\": 184.54, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 184.54, \"end\": 184.64, \"score\": 0.818}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 184.64, \"end\": 184.72, \"score\": 0.359}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 184.72, \"end\": 185.14, \"score\": 0.839}, {\"word\": \"衛\"}, {\"word\": \"福\", \"start\": 185.14, \"end\": 185.3, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"食\", \"start\": 185.3, \"end\": 185.46, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"品\", \"start\": 185.46, \"end\": 185.9, \"score\": 0.863}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 185.9, \"end\": 185.981, \"score\": 0.751}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 185.981, \"end\": 186.041, \"score\": 0.496}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 186.041, \"end\": 186.341, \"score\": 0.727}, {\"word\": \"衛\"}, {\"word\": \"福\", \"start\": 186.341, \"end\": 186.481, \"score\": 0.704}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 186.481, \"end\": 186.501, \"score\": 0.189}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 186.501, \"end\": 187.942, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 187.942, \"end\": 188.042, \"score\": 0.97}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 188.042, \"end\": 188.462, \"score\": 0.72}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 188.462, \"end\": 188.602, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 188.602, \"end\": 188.722, \"score\": 0.818}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 188.722, \"end\": 188.883, \"score\": 0.776}, {\"word\": \"跨\", \"start\": 188.883, \"end\": 189.043, \"score\": 0.916}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 189.043, \"end\": 189.343, \"score\": 0.74}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 189.343, \"end\": 189.783, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 189.783, \"end\": 190.444, \"score\": 0.921}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"於\", \"start\": 190.444, \"end\": 190.884, \"score\": 0.717}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 190.884, \"end\": 190.964, \"score\": 0.933}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 190.964, \"end\": 191.204, \"score\": 0.91}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 191.204, \"end\": 191.384, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 191.384, \"end\": 191.504, \"score\": 0.96}, {\"word\": \"呢\", \"start\": 191.504, \"end\": 191.684, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 191.684, \"end\": 192.165, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 192.165, \"end\": 192.185, \"score\": 0.994}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 192.185, \"end\": 192.785, \"score\": 0.944}, {\"word\": \"包\", \"start\": 192.785, \"end\": 192.925, \"score\": 0.867}, {\"word\": \"含\", \"start\": 192.925, \"end\": 193.045, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 193.045, \"end\": 193.326, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 193.326, \"end\": 193.406, \"score\": 0.733}, {\"word\": \"已\", \"start\": 193.406, \"end\": 193.566, \"score\": 0.694}, {\"word\": \"經\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 193.566, \"end\": 193.806, \"score\": 0.788}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 193.806, \"end\": 193.986, \"score\": 0.868}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 193.986, \"end\": 194.126, \"score\": 0.64}, {\"word\": \"晚\", \"start\": 194.126, \"end\": 194.486, \"score\": 0.896}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"主\", \"start\": 194.486, \"end\": 194.666, \"score\": 0.892}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 194.666, \"end\": 195.127, \"score\": 0.898}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 195.127, \"end\": 195.607, \"score\": 0.808}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 195.607, \"end\": 195.827, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 195.827, \"end\": 196.548, \"score\": 0.929}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"必\", \"start\": 196.548, \"end\": 196.888, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"須\"}, {\"word\": \"未\", \"start\": 196.888, \"end\": 197.148, \"score\": 0.88}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 197.148, \"end\": 197.308, \"score\": 0.851}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 197.308, \"end\": 197.468, \"score\": 0.993}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 197.468, \"end\": 197.588, \"score\": 0.962}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 197.588, \"end\": 197.869, \"score\": 0.998}, {\"word\": \"例\", \"start\": 197.869, \"end\": 198.669, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 198.669, \"end\": 198.809, \"score\": 0.764}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"綠\"}, {\"word\": \"色\", \"start\": 198.809, \"end\": 198.949, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 198.949, \"end\": 199.11, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 199.11, \"end\": 199.55, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 199.55, \"end\": 199.81, \"score\": 0.982}, {\"word\": \"賴\"}, {\"word\": \"總\"}, {\"word\": \"統\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 199.81, \"end\": 199.89, \"score\": 0.746}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"政\", \"start\": 199.89, \"end\": 199.91, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"見\"}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 201.371, \"end\": 201.451, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 201.451, \"end\": 201.551, \"score\": 0.789}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 201.551, \"end\": 201.651, \"score\": 0.99}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 201.651, \"end\": 201.671, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 201.671, \"end\": 201.791, \"score\": 0.799}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 201.791, \"end\": 201.892, \"score\": 0.799}, {\"word\": \"歐\", \"start\": 201.892, \"end\": 201.952, \"score\": 0.663}, {\"word\": \"盟\", \"start\": 201.952, \"end\": 202.032, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 202.032, \"end\": 202.092, \"score\": 0.332}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 202.092, \"end\": 202.192, \"score\": 0.797}, {\"word\": \"呢\", \"start\": 202.192, \"end\": 202.332, \"score\": 0.707}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 202.332, \"end\": 202.412, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"用\", \"start\": 202.412, \"end\": 202.452, \"score\": 0.487}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 202.452, \"end\": 202.572, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 202.572, \"end\": 202.612, \"score\": 0.494}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 202.612, \"end\": 202.732, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"國\"}, {\"word\": \"際\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 202.732, \"end\": 202.752, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 202.752, \"end\": 202.872, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 202.872, \"end\": 202.933, \"score\": 0.572}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 202.933, \"end\": 203.013, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"你\", \"start\": 203.013, \"end\": 203.033, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"知\", \"start\": 203.033, \"end\": 203.073, \"score\": 0.5}, {\"word\": \"道\", \"start\": 203.073, \"end\": 203.173, \"score\": 0.791}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 203.173, \"end\": 203.193, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 203.193, \"end\": 203.373, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"套\", \"start\": 203.373, \"end\": 203.513, \"score\": 0.709}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 203.513, \"end\": 203.673, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 203.673, \"end\": 203.913, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"目\", \"start\": 203.913, \"end\": 204.054, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"前\", \"start\": 204.054, \"end\": 204.314, \"score\": 0.891}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 204.314, \"end\": 204.434, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 204.434, \"end\": 204.534, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 204.534, \"end\": 204.634, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"不\", \"start\": 204.634, \"end\": 204.734, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 204.734, \"end\": 204.754, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"請\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 204.754, \"end\": 204.794, \"score\": 0.476}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"署\", \"start\": 204.794, \"end\": 204.814, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"長\"}, {\"word\": \"國\"}, {\"word\": \"際\"}, {\"word\": \"間\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 230.836, \"end\": 231.757, \"score\": 0.861}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 231.757, \"end\": 231.917, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"碳\", \"start\": 231.917, \"end\": 232.137, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"中\", \"start\": 232.137, \"end\": 232.337, \"score\": 0.731}, {\"word\": \"和\", \"start\": 232.337, \"end\": 232.477, \"score\": 0.935}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 232.477, \"end\": 232.618, \"score\": 0.914}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 232.618, \"end\": 232.818, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"自\", \"start\": 232.818, \"end\": 233.298, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"願\"}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 233.298, \"end\": 233.759, \"score\": 0.948}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 233.759, \"end\": 234.099, \"score\": 0.798}, {\"word\": \"現\"}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 234.099, \"end\": 234.239, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 234.239, \"end\": 234.499, \"score\": 0.718}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"也\", \"start\": 234.499, \"end\": 234.699, \"score\": 0.85}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 234.699, \"end\": 234.92, \"score\": 0.781}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 234.92, \"end\": 235.12, \"score\": 0.861}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 235.12, \"end\": 235.64, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 235.64, \"end\": 235.78, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"相\", \"start\": 235.78, \"end\": 236.201, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"關\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 236.201, \"end\": 236.381, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 236.381, \"end\": 237.081, \"score\": 0.901}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 237.081, \"end\": 237.982, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"備\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 237.982, \"end\": 238.363, \"score\": 0.818}, {\"word\": \"開\"}, {\"word\": \"始\", \"start\": 238.363, \"end\": 239.323, \"score\": 0.794}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"國\"}, {\"word\": \"內\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 239.323, \"end\": 239.544, \"score\": 0.908}, {\"word\": \"自\", \"start\": 239.544, \"end\": 239.904, \"score\": 0.939}, {\"word\": \"願\"}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 239.904, \"end\": 240.084, \"score\": 0.988}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 240.084, \"end\": 240.224, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"工\", \"start\": 240.224, \"end\": 240.404, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"作\", \"start\": 240.404, \"end\": 240.705, \"score\": 0.858}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 240.705, \"end\": 241.705, \"score\": 0.892}, {\"word\": \"規\"}, {\"word\": \"範\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 241.705, \"end\": 241.966, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 241.966, \"end\": 242.126, \"score\": 0.843}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 242.126, \"end\": 242.526, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 242.526, \"end\": 242.866, \"score\": 0.848}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"日\", \"start\": 242.866, \"end\": 243.047, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"前\", \"start\": 243.047, \"end\": 243.547, \"score\": 0.907}, {\"word\": \"釋\"}, {\"word\": \"出\", \"start\": 243.547, \"end\": 243.827, \"score\": 0.856}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 243.827, \"end\": 244.148, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"訊\"}, {\"word\": \"息\", \"start\": 244.148, \"end\": 244.308, \"score\": 0.86}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 244.308, \"end\": 244.648, \"score\": 0.855}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"先\", \"start\": 244.648, \"end\": 245.329, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"針\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 245.329, \"end\": 245.509, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 245.509, \"end\": 246.169, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 246.169, \"end\": 246.55, \"score\": 0.796}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 246.55, \"end\": 246.73, \"score\": 0.987}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 246.73, \"end\": 246.87, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 246.87, \"end\": 247.03, \"score\": 0.895}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 247.03, \"end\": 247.23, \"score\": 0.974}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 247.23, \"end\": 247.37, \"score\": 0.918}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 247.37, \"end\": 247.39, \"score\": 0.898}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"針\"}, {\"word\": \"對\"}, {\"word\": \"企\", \"start\": 247.39, \"end\": 247.51, \"score\": 0.82}, {\"word\": \"業\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 247.51, \"end\": 247.53, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 247.53, \"end\": 247.571, \"score\": 0.497}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 247.571, \"end\": 247.591, \"score\": 0.001}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 249.492, \"end\": 249.612, \"score\": 0.607}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 249.612, \"end\": 249.632, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"像\", \"start\": 249.632, \"end\": 249.772, \"score\": 0.674}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 249.772, \"end\": 249.892, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 249.892, \"end\": 249.913, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 249.913, \"end\": 249.973, \"score\": 0.436}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 249.973, \"end\": 250.233, \"score\": 0.754}, {\"word\": \"求\", \"start\": 250.233, \"end\": 250.393, \"score\": 0.875}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 250.393, \"end\": 250.493, \"score\": 0.656}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 250.493, \"end\": 250.633, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 250.633, \"end\": 250.653, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"司\", \"start\": 250.653, \"end\": 250.733, \"score\": 0.746}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 250.733, \"end\": 250.853, \"score\": 0.833}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 250.853, \"end\": 250.873, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 250.873, \"end\": 250.973, \"score\": 0.658}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 250.973, \"end\": 250.993, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 250.993, \"end\": 251.194, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 251.194, \"end\": 251.214, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 251.214, \"end\": 251.414, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"揭\", \"start\": 251.414, \"end\": 251.554, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"露\", \"start\": 251.554, \"end\": 251.734, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 251.734, \"end\": 251.754, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 268.462, \"end\": 268.702, \"score\": 0.795}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 268.702, \"end\": 268.922, \"score\": 0.997}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 268.922, \"end\": 269.103, \"score\": 0.989}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 269.103, \"end\": 269.363, \"score\": 0.872}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"公\", \"start\": 269.363, \"end\": 269.563, \"score\": 0.999}, {\"word\": \"司\", \"start\": 269.563, \"end\": 269.883, \"score\": 0.913}, {\"word\": \"願\"}, {\"word\": \"意\", \"start\": 269.883, \"end\": 270.064, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"自\", \"start\": 270.064, \"end\": 270.344, \"score\": 0.912}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 270.344, \"end\": 270.484, \"score\": 0.81}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 270.484, \"end\": 270.904, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"處\"}, {\"word\": \"理\", \"start\": 270.904, \"end\": 271.024, \"score\": 0.814}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 271.024, \"end\": 271.565, \"score\": 0.811}, {\"word\": \"話\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 271.565, \"end\": 271.725, \"score\": 0.81}, {\"word\": \"根\", \"start\": 271.725, \"end\": 271.905, \"score\": 0.724}, {\"word\": \"本\", \"start\": 271.905, \"end\": 272.226, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 272.226, \"end\": 272.566, \"score\": 0.719}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 272.566, \"end\": 272.726, \"score\": 0.801}, {\"word\": \"必\", \"start\": 272.726, \"end\": 273.086, \"score\": 0.868}, {\"word\": \"須\"}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 273.086, \"end\": 273.307, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"跨\", \"start\": 273.307, \"end\": 273.527, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 273.527, \"end\": 274.007, \"score\": 0.681}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 274.007, \"end\": 275.349, \"score\": 0.632}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 275.349, \"end\": 275.849, \"score\": 0.819}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 275.849, \"end\": 275.969, \"score\": 0.665}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 275.969, \"end\": 276.269, \"score\": 0.739}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 276.269, \"end\": 276.41, \"score\": 0.711}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 276.41, \"end\": 276.55, \"score\": 0.912}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 276.55, \"end\": 276.65, \"score\": 0.68}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 276.65, \"end\": 276.87, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"手\", \"start\": 276.87, \"end\": 277.03, \"score\": 0.827}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 277.03, \"end\": 277.17, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"拿\", \"start\": 277.17, \"end\": 277.33, \"score\": 0.951}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 277.33, \"end\": 277.471, \"score\": 0.716}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 277.471, \"end\": 277.591, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 277.591, \"end\": 277.811, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 277.811, \"end\": 278.291, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 278.291, \"end\": 278.552, \"score\": 0.794}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 278.552, \"end\": 279.432, \"score\": 0.904}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}, {\"word\": \"房\", \"start\": 279.432, \"end\": 279.653, \"score\": 0.841}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 279.653, \"end\": 279.893, \"score\": 0.856}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 279.893, \"end\": 280.033, \"score\": 0.824}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 280.033, \"end\": 280.133, \"score\": 0.965}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 280.133, \"end\": 280.213, \"score\": 0.61}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 280.213, \"end\": 280.473, \"score\": 0.947}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 280.473, \"end\": 280.674, \"score\": 0.898}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 280.674, \"end\": 281.214, \"score\": 0.945}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 281.214, \"end\": 281.795, \"score\": 0.756}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 281.795, \"end\": 281.895, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"由\", \"start\": 281.895, \"end\": 282.155, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 282.155, \"end\": 282.355, \"score\": 0.885}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 282.355, \"end\": 282.876, \"score\": 0.793}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 282.876, \"end\": 283.316, \"score\": 0.922}, {\"word\": \"擬\"}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 283.316, \"end\": 283.796, \"score\": 0.933}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 283.796, \"end\": 283.917, \"score\": 0.655}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 283.917, \"end\": 284.017, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 284.017, \"end\": 284.117, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 284.117, \"end\": 284.237, \"score\": 0.72}, {\"word\": \"想\", \"start\": 284.237, \"end\": 284.357, \"score\": 0.783}, {\"word\": \"要\", \"start\": 284.357, \"end\": 284.377, \"score\": 0.477}, {\"word\": \"詢\"}, {\"word\": \"問\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 284.377, \"end\": 284.397, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 285.518, \"end\": 286.118, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 286.118, \"end\": 286.298, \"score\": 0.844}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 286.298, \"end\": 287.139, \"score\": 0.85}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 287.139, \"end\": 287.379, \"score\": 0.638}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 287.379, \"end\": 287.399, \"score\": 0.001}, {\"word\": \"降\", \"start\": 287.399, \"end\": 287.619, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"房\", \"start\": 287.619, \"end\": 287.799, \"score\": 0.631}, {\"word\": \"票\", \"start\": 287.799, \"end\": 287.959, \"score\": 0.762}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 287.959, \"end\": 288.119, \"score\": 0.614}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 288.119, \"end\": 288.439, \"score\": 0.644}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 288.439, \"end\": 288.839, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 288.839, \"end\": 288.96, \"score\": 0.909}, {\"word\": \"相\", \"start\": 288.96, \"end\": 289.18, \"score\": 0.823}, {\"word\": \"信\", \"start\": 289.18, \"end\": 289.34, \"score\": 0.835}, {\"word\": \"就\", \"start\": 289.34, \"end\": 289.56, \"score\": 0.775}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 289.56, \"end\": 290.42, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 290.42, \"end\": 290.66, \"score\": 0.8}, {\"word\": \"投\", \"start\": 290.66, \"end\": 290.88, \"score\": 0.822}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 290.88, \"end\": 291.24, \"score\": 0.847}, {\"word\": \"資\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 291.24, \"end\": 291.541, \"score\": 0.789}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 291.541, \"end\": 291.721, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 291.721, \"end\": 291.961, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 291.961, \"end\": 292.421, \"score\": 0.979}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 292.421, \"end\": 292.861, \"score\": 0.812}, {\"word\": \"資\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 292.861, \"end\": 293.221, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"案\", \"start\": 293.221, \"end\": 293.682, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 293.682, \"end\": 294.142, \"score\": 0.797}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 294.142, \"end\": 294.302, \"score\": 0.929}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 294.302, \"end\": 294.342, \"score\": 0.985}, {\"word\": \"些\", \"start\": 294.342, \"end\": 294.562, \"score\": 0.852}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 294.562, \"end\": 294.722, \"score\": 0.975}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 294.722, \"end\": 295.062, \"score\": 0.792}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 295.062, \"end\": 295.222, \"score\": 0.883}, {\"word\": \"宣\", \"start\": 295.222, \"end\": 295.942, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"導\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 295.942, \"end\": 296.043, \"score\": 0.738}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 296.043, \"end\": 296.363, \"score\": 0.721}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"樣\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 296.363, \"end\": 296.783, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"準\", \"start\": 296.783, \"end\": 297.003, \"score\": 0.55}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 297.003, \"end\": 297.523, \"score\": 0.915}, {\"word\": \"標\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 297.523, \"end\": 297.963, \"score\": 0.881}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 297.963, \"end\": 298.123, \"score\": 0.871}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 298.123, \"end\": 298.223, \"score\": 0.78}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 298.223, \"end\": 298.384, \"score\": 0.707}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 298.384, \"end\": 298.804, \"score\": 0.774}, {\"word\": \"環\"}, {\"word\": \"境\", \"start\": 298.804, \"end\": 298.944, \"score\": 0.821}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 298.944, \"end\": 299.124, \"score\": 0.925}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 299.124, \"end\": 299.624, \"score\": 0.859}, {\"word\": \"商\", \"start\": 299.624, \"end\": 300.104, \"score\": 0.664}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"而\", \"start\": 300.104, \"end\": 300.264, \"score\": 0.687}, {\"word\": \"且\", \"start\": 300.264, \"end\": 300.464, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 300.464, \"end\": 300.584, \"score\": 0.707}, {\"word\": \"底\", \"start\": 300.584, \"end\": 300.644, \"score\": 0.547}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 300.644, \"end\": 300.885, \"score\": 0.978}, {\"word\": \"真\", \"start\": 300.885, \"end\": 301.145, \"score\": 0.838}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 301.145, \"end\": 301.805, \"score\": 0.774}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 301.805, \"end\": 302.005, \"score\": 0.927}, {\"word\": \"假\", \"start\": 302.005, \"end\": 302.265, \"score\": 0.953}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 302.265, \"end\": 302.705, \"score\": 0.873}, {\"word\": \"那\", \"start\": 302.705, \"end\": 303.466, \"score\": 0.845}, {\"word\": \"誰\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"判\", \"start\": 303.466, \"end\": 303.746, \"score\": 0.876}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 303.746, \"end\": 304.246, \"score\": 0.883}, {\"word\": \"尤\", \"start\": 304.246, \"end\": 304.466, \"score\": 0.718}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 304.466, \"end\": 304.586, \"score\": 0.65}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 304.586, \"end\": 304.806, \"score\": 0.937}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 304.806, \"end\": 304.986, \"score\": 0.829}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 304.986, \"end\": 305.547, \"score\": 0.776}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}, {\"word\": \"裡\"}, {\"word\": \"面\", \"start\": 305.547, \"end\": 305.767, \"score\": 0.813}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 305.767, \"end\": 306.007, \"score\": 0.973}, {\"word\": \"人\", \"start\": 306.007, \"end\": 306.227, \"score\": 0.804}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 306.227, \"end\": 306.327, \"score\": 0.991}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 306.327, \"end\": 306.447, \"score\": 0.534}, {\"word\": \"判\", \"start\": 306.447, \"end\": 306.707, \"score\": 0.798}, {\"word\": \"定\", \"start\": 306.707, \"end\": 306.967, \"score\": 0.828}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 306.967, \"end\": 307.347, \"score\": 0.98}, {\"word\": \"真\", \"start\": 307.347, \"end\": 307.607, \"score\": 0.803}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 307.607, \"end\": 307.888, \"score\": 0.741}, {\"word\": \"還\"}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 307.888, \"end\": 308.048, \"score\": 0.965}, {\"word\": \"假\", \"start\": 308.048, \"end\": 308.288, \"score\": 0.936}, {\"word\": \"率\", \"start\": 308.288, \"end\": 308.308, \"score\": 0.033}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 309.408, \"end\": 309.588, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 309.588, \"end\": 309.928, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 309.928, \"end\": 310.349, \"score\": 0.715}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"部\", \"start\": 310.349, \"end\": 310.449, \"score\": 0.974}, {\"word\": \"分\", \"start\": 310.449, \"end\": 310.549, \"score\": 0.686}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 310.549, \"end\": 310.709, \"score\": 0.816}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 310.709, \"end\": 311.529, \"score\": 0.916}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 311.529, \"end\": 311.629, \"score\": 0.784}, {\"word\": \"管\", \"start\": 311.629, \"end\": 311.949, \"score\": 0.735}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"彭\", \"start\": 311.949, \"end\": 312.149, \"score\": 0.878}, {\"word\": \"朱\", \"start\": 312.149, \"end\": 312.33, \"score\": 0.787}, {\"word\": \"惠\", \"start\": 312.33, \"end\": 312.75, \"score\": 0.899}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 312.75, \"end\": 314.931, \"score\": 0.767}, {\"word\": \"討\"}, {\"word\": \"論\"}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"議\"}, {\"word\": \"題\"}, {\"word\": \"。\"}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"做\", \"start\": 314.931, \"end\": 315.331, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"事\", \"start\": 315.331, \"end\": 315.531, \"score\": 0.627}, {\"word\": \"情\", \"start\": 315.531, \"end\": 315.691, \"score\": 0.693}, {\"word\": \"。\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 315.691, \"end\": 315.911, \"score\": 0.846}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 315.911, \"end\": 316.251, \"score\": 0.728}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 316.251, \"end\": 317.972, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 317.972, \"end\": 318.192, \"score\": 0.757}, {\"word\": \"約\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 318.192, \"end\": 318.532, \"score\": 0.83}, {\"word\": \"嗎\"}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 318.532, \"end\": 318.632, \"score\": 0.616}, {\"word\": \"沒\", \"start\": 318.632, \"end\": 318.713, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 318.713, \"end\": 318.833, \"score\": 0.562}, {\"word\": \"期\", \"start\": 318.833, \"end\": 318.993, \"score\": 0.646}, {\"word\": \"程\", \"start\": 318.993, \"end\": 319.653, \"score\": 0.87}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 319.653, \"end\": 319.773, \"score\": 0.683}, {\"word\": \"什\", \"start\": 319.773, \"end\": 319.873, \"score\": 0.62}, {\"word\": \"麼\"}, {\"word\": \"時\"}, {\"word\": \"候\", \"start\": 319.873, \"end\": 320.133, \"score\": 0.634}, {\"word\": \"可\", \"start\": 320.133, \"end\": 320.193, \"score\": 0.863}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 320.193, \"end\": 320.273, \"score\": 0.496}, {\"word\": \"拿\", \"start\": 320.273, \"end\": 320.413, \"score\": 0.817}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 320.413, \"end\": 320.593, \"score\": 0.695}, {\"word\": \"更\", \"start\": 320.593, \"end\": 320.954, \"score\": 0.893}, {\"word\": \"進\"}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 320.954, \"end\": 321.054, \"score\": 0.84}, {\"word\": \"步\", \"start\": 321.054, \"end\": 321.174, \"score\": 0.721}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 321.174, \"end\": 321.454, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"資\"}, {\"word\": \"料\", \"start\": 321.454, \"end\": 321.754, \"score\": 0.889}, {\"word\": \"跟\", \"start\": 321.754, \"end\": 321.954, \"score\": 0.987}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 321.954, \"end\": 322.094, \"score\": 0.942}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 322.094, \"end\": 322.214, \"score\": 0.869}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 322.214, \"end\": 322.334, \"score\": 0.971}, {\"word\": \"方\", \"start\": 322.334, \"end\": 322.514, \"score\": 0.877}, {\"word\": \"向\", \"start\": 322.514, \"end\": 322.714, \"score\": 0.724}, {\"word\": \"?\"}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 322.714, \"end\": 323.155, \"score\": 0.879}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 323.155, \"end\": 323.435, \"score\": 0.635}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"份\", \"start\": 323.435, \"end\": 323.635, \"score\": 0.858}, {\"word\": \"指\", \"start\": 323.635, \"end\": 323.755, \"score\": 0.849}, {\"word\": \"引\", \"start\": 323.755, \"end\": 324.075, \"score\": 0.841}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 324.075, \"end\": 324.215, \"score\": 0.857}, {\"word\": \"看\", \"start\": 324.215, \"end\": 324.635, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"過\"}, {\"word\": \"了\", \"start\": 324.635, \"end\": 325.055, \"score\": 0.832}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 325.055, \"end\": 325.176, \"score\": 0.901}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 325.176, \"end\": 325.316, \"score\": 0.965}, {\"word\": \"其\", \"start\": 325.316, \"end\": 325.576, \"score\": 0.723}, {\"word\": \"實\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 325.576, \"end\": 325.736, \"score\": 0.986}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 325.736, \"end\": 325.956, \"score\": 0.92}, {\"word\": \"概\", \"start\": 325.956, \"end\": 326.176, \"score\": 0.853}, {\"word\": \"念\", \"start\": 326.176, \"end\": 326.416, \"score\": 0.922}, {\"word\": \"性\", \"start\": 326.416, \"end\": 326.956, \"score\": 0.905}, {\"word\": \"。\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 326.956, \"end\": 327.076, \"score\": 0.575}, {\"word\": \"覺\"}, {\"word\": \"得\", \"start\": 327.076, \"end\": 327.216, \"score\": 0.753}, {\"word\": \"如\", \"start\": 327.216, \"end\": 327.337, \"score\": 0.61}, {\"word\": \"果\", \"start\": 327.337, \"end\": 327.457, \"score\": 0.63}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 327.457, \"end\": 327.777, \"score\": 0.657}, {\"word\": \"這\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"概\", \"start\": 327.777, \"end\": 327.997, \"score\": 0.931}, {\"word\": \"念\", \"start\": 327.997, \"end\": 328.577, \"score\": 0.842}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 328.577, \"end\": 328.697, \"score\": 0.793}, {\"word\": \"必\", \"start\": 328.697, \"end\": 329.277, \"score\": 0.834}, {\"word\": \"須\"}, {\"word\": \"講\"}, {\"word\": \"金\", \"start\": 329.277, \"end\": 329.417, \"score\": 0.952}, {\"word\": \"融\", \"start\": 329.417, \"end\": 329.437, \"score\": 0.636}, {\"word\": \"機\"}, {\"word\": \"構\"}, {\"word\": \"報\"}, {\"word\": \"告\", \"start\": 330.538, \"end\": 330.618, \"score\": 0.749}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 330.618, \"end\": 330.638, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 330.638, \"end\": 330.658, \"score\": 0.009}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 330.658, \"end\": 330.678, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 330.678, \"end\": 330.698, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"有\", \"start\": 330.698, \"end\": 330.718, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"約\"}, {\"word\": \"好\", \"start\": 330.718, \"end\": 330.738, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"啦\", \"start\": 330.738, \"end\": 330.758, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"但\", \"start\": 330.758, \"end\": 330.778, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 330.778, \"end\": 330.898, \"score\": 0.983}, {\"word\": \"因\", \"start\": 330.898, \"end\": 331.079, \"score\": 0.557}, {\"word\": \"為\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 331.079, \"end\": 331.099, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"都\", \"start\": 331.099, \"end\": 331.159, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"是\", \"start\": 331.159, \"end\": 331.179, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"第\", \"start\": 331.179, \"end\": 331.199, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 331.199, \"end\": 331.219, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"次\", \"start\": 331.219, \"end\": 331.239, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"今\", \"start\": 331.239, \"end\": 331.259, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"天\", \"start\": 331.259, \"end\": 331.319, \"score\": 0.653}, {\"word\": \"在\", \"start\": 331.319, \"end\": 331.339, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"立\", \"start\": 331.339, \"end\": 331.379, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"法\", \"start\": 331.379, \"end\": 331.399, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"院\", \"start\": 331.399, \"end\": 331.419, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"所\", \"start\": 331.419, \"end\": 331.499, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"以\", \"start\": 331.499, \"end\": 331.519, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"等\", \"start\": 331.519, \"end\": 331.539, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 331.539, \"end\": 331.559, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 331.559, \"end\": 331.579, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"們\"}, {\"word\": \"稍\", \"start\": 331.579, \"end\": 331.599, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"微\", \"start\": 331.599, \"end\": 331.639, \"score\": 0.499}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 331.639, \"end\": 331.699, \"score\": 0.307}, {\"word\": \"點\"}, {\"word\": \"點\"}, {\"word\": \"上\", \"start\": 331.699, \"end\": 331.919, \"score\": 0.682}, {\"word\": \"線\"}, {\"word\": \"到\", \"start\": 331.919, \"end\": 331.939, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \",\"}, {\"word\": \"我\", \"start\": 331.939, \"end\": 332.0, \"score\": 0.666}, {\"word\": \"再\", \"start\": 332.0, \"end\": 332.02, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"一\", \"start\": 332.02, \"end\": 332.04, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"兩\"}, {\"word\": \"個\"}, {\"word\": \"月\", \"start\": 332.04, \"end\": 332.12, \"score\": 0.516}, {\"word\": \"內\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"找\", \"start\": 332.12, \"end\": 332.14, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 332.14, \"end\": 332.16, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"來\"}, {\"word\": \"開\"}, {\"word\": \"會\"}, {\"word\": \"。\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"謝\"}, {\"word\": \"林\", \"start\": 351.42, \"end\": 351.44, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"楚\", \"start\": 351.44, \"end\": 351.52, \"score\": 0.75}, {\"word\": \"茵\", \"start\": 351.52, \"end\": 351.54, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"委\", \"start\": 351.54, \"end\": 351.6, \"score\": 0.666}, {\"word\": \"員\"}, {\"word\": \"的\", \"start\": 351.6, \"end\": 351.66, \"score\": 0.667}, {\"word\": \"發\"}, {\"word\": \"言\", \"start\": 351.66, \"end\": 351.68, \"score\": 0.0}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:05,747 --> 00:00:09,099\n謝謝主席主席有請我們彭部長有請彭部長\n\n2\n00:00:11,598 --> 00:00:35,304\n林委員好部長好今天22號其實才上了兩天所以等一下如果我質詢的題目如果在您業務還來不及去理解的部分可以讓您的一起陪同出席的這些司長或處長們來做回應謝謝委員好我們知道其實我比較關注的當然就是有關於碳中和這個議題我想今天大家關注的也都是這個部分但說碳中和容易但是事實上\n\n3\n00:00:36,464 --> 00:01:01,782\n呃他不是只有在環境部比如說像我現在注意到是很多的商品因為我們的這相關的碳中和名詞出現之後他也變成是一個可以販售的宣傳嗎包括便利商店啦或者是一些食用品當中都會說啊我有碳中和有碳中和感覺上好像不只是宣傳而且好像我在購買的時候我為綠\n\n4\n00:01:04,583 --> 00:01:17,869\n對環保好像盡了一分力但是這樣的過程當中到底是不是真的企業做到碳中和到底有沒有辦法做揭露那這個部分如果是產品是商品它的主管機關是環境部嗎\n\n5\n00:01:19,502 --> 00:01:36,307\n報告員其實這件事情就是現在我們氣候署有一個碳中和的一個標準那我們會建議朝那個標準來進行所以有些企業他的確會用這樣方式來宣揚他的這個淨零的這個理念當然是很好但是也要嚴防避免票率\n\n6\n00:01:36,707 --> 00:01:55,110\n好,其實我擔心的就是說,如果他問易賦取企業的社會責任ESG來做到碳中和那是最好的但是就擔心他變成一個宣傳的噱頭我們來看吼,我們現在指引到底什麼社會上路大家一定都在問但是我更想問的是,如果今天\n\n7\n00:01:56,151 --> 00:02:22,612\n環境部他所擬定的企業宣告碳中和的這個指引如果企業要揭露我想問的就是那揭露在哪裡是金管會過去一直都有要求有關於ESG的報告當中嗎那麼他的策略是什麼行動是什麼那麼是未來要改成是碳中和也要做一個揭露報告書嗎那在這個揭露報告書當中等不同同於剛剛上面我所詢問的就是許多的商品產品\n\n8\n00:02:24,841 --> 00:02:30,250\n他揭露了他探綜合有畫上等號嗎那如果虛位不實\n\n9\n00:02:31,755 --> 00:02:57,295\n主管機關到底是環境部還是也許是經濟部或者是其他的部會如果是食品會不會是會服部其實我想問的是我現在問的這些問題有沒有跨部會的討論或是不是已經有一個方向就是所謂的票率而這個票率的過程當中如果我今天林楚茵發現了他是出現在\n\n10\n00:02:58,015 --> 00:03:19,910\n企業當中那我到底是去找環境部還是我去找經濟部又或者是商品我要找衛福食品我要找衛福部部長報告委員這個其實都是跨部會的那對關於這樣的一個指引呢其實我們我包含我現在已經有跟今晚會主委在討論其實我們必須未來要有一些例如說綠色金融這是賴總統的這個政見\n\n11\n00:03:21,371 --> 00:03:24,814\n所以我們用的是歐盟的標準呢?還是用什麼樣的一個國際上面的標準?你知道現在有兩套的標準嗎?對目前這個部分是不是請我們署長\n\n12\n00:03:50,836 --> 00:04:07,591\n國際間在做碳中和都是自願性那現在我們也跟金管會還有相關的部會準備要開始來對國內這些自願性的工作來做規範那金管會他們日前釋出來的訊息他會先針對金融業那環境部的部分我們會針對企業的部分\n\n13\n00:04:09,492 --> 00:04:11,754\n所以會像金管會所要求的公發公司在他們的報告上面做揭露嗎?還是?\n\n14\n00:04:28,462 --> 00:04:44,397\n如果是公發公司願意自發性的來處理的話是根本報告這個就必須要跨部會來討論好因為我會問到這一題就是我手上拿到的就是金融機構房票率的一些指引那麼這個是由金管會來做擬定但是我就想要詢問了\n\n15\n00:04:45,518 --> 00:05:08,308\n那麼金融機構他在降房票率的時候我相信就是來做投融資的時候的這些融資的個案我們來做一些指引的宣導但是這樣的標準跟標的有沒有跟環境部做商討而且到底是真率還是假率那誰來判定尤其是金融機構裡面有人可以判定這是真率還是假率嗎\n\n16\n00:05:09,408 --> 00:05:29,437\n報告委員,其實這個部分我跟金管會彭朱惠有討論過這個議題。兩個會來做這個事情。好,什麼時候?有約了嗎?有沒有期程?我什麼時候可以拿到更進一步的資料跟指引的方向?因為其實這份指引我看過了,但是其實都是概念性。我覺得如果是這個概念,我必須講金融機構\n\n17\n00:05:30,538 --> 00:05:32,160\n報告委員,因為我們都有約好啦,但是因為我們都是第一次今天在立法院,所以等到我們稍微一點點上線到,我再一兩個月內會找他來開會。\n\n18\n00:05:51,420 --> 00:05:51,680\n謝謝林楚茵委員的發言\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5747\t9099\t謝謝主席 主席有請我們彭部長有請彭部長\n11598\t35304\t林委員好部長好今天22號其實才上了兩天所以等一下如果我質詢的題目如果在您業務還來不及去理解的部分可以讓您的一起陪同出席的這些司長或處長們來做回應謝謝委員好我們知道其實我比較關注的當然就是有關於碳中和這個議題我想今天大家關注的也都是這個部分但說碳中和容易但是事實上\n36464\t61782\t呃他不是只有在環境部比如說像我現在注意到是很多的商品因為我們的這相關的碳中和名詞出現之後他也變成是一個可以販售的宣傳嗎包括便利商店啦或者是一些食用品當中都會說啊我有碳中和有碳中和感覺上好像不只是宣傳而且好像我在購買的時候我為綠\n64583\t77869\t對環保好像盡了一分力但是這樣的過程當中到底是不是真的企業做到碳中和到底有沒有辦法做揭露那這個部分如果是產品是商品它的主管機關是環境部嗎\n79502\t96307\t報告員其實這件事情就是現在我們氣候署有一個碳中和的一個標準那我們會建議朝那個標準來進行所以有些企業他的確會用這樣方式來宣揚他的這個淨零的這個理念當然是很好但是也要嚴防避免票率\n96707\t115110\t好,其實我擔心的就是說,如果他問易賦取企業的社會責任ESG來做到碳中和那是最好的但是就擔心他變成一個宣傳的噱頭我們來看吼,我們現在指引到底什麼社會上路大家一定都在問但是我更想問的是,如果今天\n116151\t142612\t環境部他所擬定的企業宣告碳中和的這個指引如果企業要揭露我想問的就是那揭露在哪裡是金管會過去一直都有要求有關於ESG的報告當中嗎那麼他的策略是什麼行動是什麼那麼是未來要改成是碳中和也要做一個揭露報告書嗎那在這個揭露報告書當中等不同同於剛剛上面我所詢問的就是許多的商品產品\n144841\t150250\t他揭露了他探綜合有畫上等號嗎那如果虛位不實\n151755\t177295\t主管機關到底是環境部還是也許是經濟部或者是其他的部會如果是食品會不會是會服部其實我想問的是我現在問的這些問題有沒有跨部會的討論或是不是已經有一個方向就是所謂的票率而這個票率的過程當中如果我今天林楚茵發現了他是出現在\n178015\t199910\t企業當中那我到底是去找環境部還是我去找經濟部又或者是商品我要找衛福食品我要找衛福部部長報告委員這個其實都是跨部會的那對關於這樣的一個指引呢其實我們我包含我現在已經有跟今晚會主委在討論其實我們必須未來要有一些例如說綠色金融這是賴總統的這個政見\n201371\t204814\t所以我們用的是歐盟的標準呢?還是用什麼樣的一個國際上面的標準?你知道現在有兩套的標準嗎?對目前這個部分是不是請我們署長\n230836\t247591\t國際間在做碳中和都是自願性那現在我們也跟金管會還有相關的部會準備要開始來對國內這些自願性的工作來做規範那金管會他們日前釋出來的訊息他會先針對金融業那環境部的部分我們會針對企業的部分\n249492\t251754\t所以會像金管會所要求的公發公司在他們的報告上面做揭露嗎?還是?\n268462\t284397\t如果是公發公司願意自發性的來處理的話是根本報告這個就必須要跨部會來討論好因為我會問到這一題就是我手上拿到的就是金融機構房票率的一些指引那麼這個是由金管會來做擬定但是我就想要詢問了\n285518\t308308\t那麼金融機構他在降房票率的時候我相信就是來做投融資的時候的這些融資的個案我們來做一些指引的宣導但是這樣的標準跟標的有沒有跟環境部做商討而且到底是真率還是假率那誰來判定尤其是金融機構裡面有人可以判定這是真率還是假率嗎\n309408\t329437\t報告委員,其實這個部分我跟金管會彭朱惠有討論過這個議題。兩個會來做這個事情。好,什麼時候?有約了嗎?有沒有期程?我什麼時候可以拿到更進一步的資料跟指引的方向?因為其實這份指引我看過了,但是其實都是概念性。我覺得如果是這個概念,我必須講金融機構\n330538\t332160\t報告委員,因為我們都有約好啦,但是因為我們都是第一次今天在立法院,所以等到我們稍微一點點上線到,我再一兩個月內會找他來開會。\n351420\t351680\t謝謝林楚茵委員的發言\n","txt":"謝謝主席 主席有請我們彭部長有請彭部長\n林委員好部長好今天22號其實才上了兩天所以等一下如果我質詢的題目如果在您業務還來不及去理解的部分可以讓您的一起陪同出席的這些司長或處長們來做回應謝謝委員好我們知道其實我比較關注的當然就是有關於碳中和這個議題我想今天大家關注的也都是這個部分但說碳中和容易但是事實上\n呃他不是只有在環境部比如說像我現在注意到是很多的商品因為我們的這相關的碳中和名詞出現之後他也變成是一個可以販售的宣傳嗎包括便利商店啦或者是一些食用品當中都會說啊我有碳中和有碳中和感覺上好像不只是宣傳而且好像我在購買的時候我為綠\n對環保好像盡了一分力但是這樣的過程當中到底是不是真的企業做到碳中和到底有沒有辦法做揭露那這個部分如果是產品是商品它的主管機關是環境部嗎\n報告員其實這件事情就是現在我們氣候署有一個碳中和的一個標準那我們會建議朝那個標準來進行所以有些企業他的確會用這樣方式來宣揚他的這個淨零的這個理念當然是很好但是也要嚴防避免票率\n好,其實我擔心的就是說,如果他問易賦取企業的社會責任ESG來做到碳中和那是最好的但是就擔心他變成一個宣傳的噱頭我們來看吼,我們現在指引到底什麼社會上路大家一定都在問但是我更想問的是,如果今天\n環境部他所擬定的企業宣告碳中和的這個指引如果企業要揭露我想問的就是那揭露在哪裡是金管會過去一直都有要求有關於ESG的報告當中嗎那麼他的策略是什麼行動是什麼那麼是未來要改成是碳中和也要做一個揭露報告書嗎那在這個揭露報告書當中等不同同於剛剛上面我所詢問的就是許多的商品產品\n他揭露了他探綜合有畫上等號嗎那如果虛位不實\n主管機關到底是環境部還是也許是經濟部或者是其他的部會如果是食品會不會是會服部其實我想問的是我現在問的這些問題有沒有跨部會的討論或是不是已經有一個方向就是所謂的票率而這個票率的過程當中如果我今天林楚茵發現了他是出現在\n企業當中那我到底是去找環境部還是我去找經濟部又或者是商品我要找衛福食品我要找衛福部部長報告委員這個其實都是跨部會的那對關於這樣的一個指引呢其實我們我包含我現在已經有跟今晚會主委在討論其實我們必須未來要有一些例如說綠色金融這是賴總統的這個政見\n所以我們用的是歐盟的標準呢?還是用什麼樣的一個國際上面的標準?你知道現在有兩套的標準嗎?對目前這個部分是不是請我們署長\n國際間在做碳中和都是自願性那現在我們也跟金管會還有相關的部會準備要開始來對國內這些自願性的工作來做規範那金管會他們日前釋出來的訊息他會先針對金融業那環境部的部分我們會針對企業的部分\n所以會像金管會所要求的公發公司在他們的報告上面做揭露嗎?還是?\n如果是公發公司願意自發性的來處理的話是根本報告這個就必須要跨部會來討論好因為我會問到這一題就是我手上拿到的就是金融機構房票率的一些指引那麼這個是由金管會來做擬定但是我就想要詢問了\n那麼金融機構他在降房票率的時候我相信就是來做投融資的時候的這些融資的個案我們來做一些指引的宣導但是這樣的標準跟標的有沒有跟環境部做商討而且到底是真率還是假率那誰來判定尤其是金融機構裡面有人可以判定這是真率還是假率嗎\n報告委員,其實這個部分我跟金管會彭朱惠有討論過這個議題。兩個會來做這個事情。好,什麼時候?有約了嗎?有沒有期程?我什麼時候可以拿到更進一步的資料跟指引的方向?因為其實這份指引我看過了,但是其實都是概念性。我覺得如果是這個概念,我必須講金融機構\n報告委員,因為我們都有約好啦,但是因為我們都是第一次今天在立法院,所以等到我們稍微一點點上線到,我再一兩個月內會找他來開會。\n謝謝林楚茵委員的發言\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.747 --> 00:09.099\n謝謝主席主席有請我們彭部長有請彭部長\n\n00:11.598 --> 00:35.304\n林委員好部長好今天22號其實才上了兩天所以等一下如果我質詢的題目如果在您業務還來不及去理解的部分可以讓您的一起陪同出席的這些司長或處長們來做回應謝謝委員好我們知道其實我比較關注的當然就是有關於碳中和這個議題我想今天大家關注的也都是這個部分但說碳中和容易但是事實上\n\n00:36.464 --> 01:01.782\n呃他不是只有在環境部比如說像我現在注意到是很多的商品因為我們的這相關的碳中和名詞出現之後他也變成是一個可以販售的宣傳嗎包括便利商店啦或者是一些食用品當中都會說啊我有碳中和有碳中和感覺上好像不只是宣傳而且好像我在購買的時候我為綠\n\n01:04.583 --> 01:17.869\n對環保好像盡了一分力但是這樣的過程當中到底是不是真的企業做到碳中和到底有沒有辦法做揭露那這個部分如果是產品是商品它的主管機關是環境部嗎\n\n01:19.502 --> 01:36.307\n報告員其實這件事情就是現在我們氣候署有一個碳中和的一個標準那我們會建議朝那個標準來進行所以有些企業他的確會用這樣方式來宣揚他的這個淨零的這個理念當然是很好但是也要嚴防避免票率\n\n01:36.707 --> 01:55.110\n好,其實我擔心的就是說,如果他問易賦取企業的社會責任ESG來做到碳中和那是最好的但是就擔心他變成一個宣傳的噱頭我們來看吼,我們現在指引到底什麼社會上路大家一定都在問但是我更想問的是,如果今天\n\n01:56.151 --> 02:22.612\n環境部他所擬定的企業宣告碳中和的這個指引如果企業要揭露我想問的就是那揭露在哪裡是金管會過去一直都有要求有關於ESG的報告當中嗎那麼他的策略是什麼行動是什麼那麼是未來要改成是碳中和也要做一個揭露報告書嗎那在這個揭露報告書當中等不同同於剛剛上面我所詢問的就是許多的商品產品\n\n02:24.841 --> 02:30.250\n他揭露了他探綜合有畫上等號嗎那如果虛位不實\n\n02:31.755 --> 02:57.295\n主管機關到底是環境部還是也許是經濟部或者是其他的部會如果是食品會不會是會服部其實我想問的是我現在問的這些問題有沒有跨部會的討論或是不是已經有一個方向就是所謂的票率而這個票率的過程當中如果我今天林楚茵發現了他是出現在\n\n02:58.015 --> 03:19.910\n企業當中那我到底是去找環境部還是我去找經濟部又或者是商品我要找衛福食品我要找衛福部部長報告委員這個其實都是跨部會的那對關於這樣的一個指引呢其實我們我包含我現在已經有跟今晚會主委在討論其實我們必須未來要有一些例如說綠色金融這是賴總統的這個政見\n\n03:21.371 --> 03:24.814\n所以我們用的是歐盟的標準呢?還是用什麼樣的一個國際上面的標準?你知道現在有兩套的標準嗎?對目前這個部分是不是請我們署長\n\n03:50.836 --> 04:07.591\n國際間在做碳中和都是自願性那現在我們也跟金管會還有相關的部會準備要開始來對國內這些自願性的工作來做規範那金管會他們日前釋出來的訊息他會先針對金融業那環境部的部分我們會針對企業的部分\n\n04:09.492 --> 04:11.754\n所以會像金管會所要求的公發公司在他們的報告上面做揭露嗎?還是?\n\n04:28.462 --> 04:44.397\n如果是公發公司願意自發性的來處理的話是根本報告這個就必須要跨部會來討論好因為我會問到這一題就是我手上拿到的就是金融機構房票率的一些指引那麼這個是由金管會來做擬定但是我就想要詢問了\n\n04:45.518 --> 05:08.308\n那麼金融機構他在降房票率的時候我相信就是來做投融資的時候的這些融資的個案我們來做一些指引的宣導但是這樣的標準跟標的有沒有跟環境部做商討而且到底是真率還是假率那誰來判定尤其是金融機構裡面有人可以判定這是真率還是假率嗎\n\n05:09.408 --> 05:29.437\n報告委員,其實這個部分我跟金管會彭朱惠有討論過這個議題。兩個會來做這個事情。好,什麼時候?有約了嗎?有沒有期程?我什麼時候可以拿到更進一步的資料跟指引的方向?因為其實這份指引我看過了,但是其實都是概念性。我覺得如果是這個概念,我必須講金融機構\n\n05:30.538 --> 05:32.160\n報告委員,因為我們都有約好啦,但是因為我們都是第一次今天在立法院,所以等到我們稍微一點點上線到,我再一兩個月內會找他來開會。\n\n05:51.420 --> 05:51.680\n謝謝林楚茵委員的發言\n\n","segments":[{"start":5.747,"end":9.099,"text":"謝謝主席 主席有請我們彭部長有請彭部長"},{"start":11.598,"end":35.304,"text":"林委員好部長好今天22號其實才上了兩天所以等一下如果我質詢的題目如果在您業務還來不及去理解的部分可以讓您的一起陪同出席的這些司長或處長們來做回應謝謝委員好我們知道其實我比較關注的當然就是有關於碳中和這個議題我想今天大家關注的也都是這個部分但說碳中和容易但是事實上"},{"start":36.464,"end":61.782,"text":"呃他不是只有在環境部比如說像我現在注意到是很多的商品因為我們的這相關的碳中和名詞出現之後他也變成是一個可以販售的宣傳嗎包括便利商店啦或者是一些食用品當中都會說啊我有碳中和有碳中和感覺上好像不只是宣傳而且好像我在購買的時候我為綠"},{"start":64.583,"end":77.869,"text":"對環保好像盡了一分力但是這樣的過程當中到底是不是真的企業做到碳中和到底有沒有辦法做揭露那這個部分如果是產品是商品它的主管機關是環境部嗎"},{"start":79.502,"end":96.307,"text":"報告員其實這件事情就是現在我們氣候署有一個碳中和的一個標準那我們會建議朝那個標準來進行所以有些企業他的確會用這樣方式來宣揚他的這個淨零的這個理念當然是很好但是也要嚴防避免票率"},{"start":96.707,"end":115.11,"text":"好,其實我擔心的就是說,如果他問易賦取企業的社會責任ESG來做到碳中和那是最好的但是就擔心他變成一個宣傳的噱頭我們來看吼,我們現在指引到底什麼社會上路大家一定都在問但是我更想問的是,如果今天"},{"start":116.151,"end":142.612,"text":"環境部他所擬定的企業宣告碳中和的這個指引如果企業要揭露我想問的就是那揭露在哪裡是金管會過去一直都有要求有關於ESG的報告當中嗎那麼他的策略是什麼行動是什麼那麼是未來要改成是碳中和也要做一個揭露報告書嗎那在這個揭露報告書當中等不同同於剛剛上面我所詢問的就是許多的商品產品"},{"start":144.841,"end":150.25,"text":"他揭露了他探綜合有畫上等號嗎那如果虛位不實"},{"start":151.755,"end":177.295,"text":"主管機關到底是環境部還是也許是經濟部或者是其他的部會如果是食品會不會是會服部其實我想問的是我現在問的這些問題有沒有跨部會的討論或是不是已經有一個方向就是所謂的票率而這個票率的過程當中如果我今天林楚茵發現了他是出現在"},{"start":178.015,"end":199.91,"text":"企業當中那我到底是去找環境部還是我去找經濟部又或者是商品我要找衛福食品我要找衛福部部長報告委員這個其實都是跨部會的那對關於這樣的一個指引呢其實我們我包含我現在已經有跟今晚會主委在討論其實我們必須未來要有一些例如說綠色金融這是賴總統的這個政見"},{"start":201.371,"end":204.814,"text":"所以我們用的是歐盟的標準呢?還是用什麼樣的一個國際上面的標準?你知道現在有兩套的標準嗎?對目前這個部分是不是請我們署長"},{"start":230.836,"end":247.591,"text":"國際間在做碳中和都是自願性那現在我們也跟金管會還有相關的部會準備要開始來對國內這些自願性的工作來做規範那金管會他們日前釋出來的訊息他會先針對金融業那環境部的部分我們會針對企業的部分"},{"start":249.492,"end":251.754,"text":"所以會像金管會所要求的公發公司在他們的報告上面做揭露嗎?還是?"},{"start":268.462,"end":284.397,"text":"如果是公發公司願意自發性的來處理的話是根本報告這個就必須要跨部會來討論好因為我會問到這一題就是我手上拿到的就是金融機構房票率的一些指引那麼這個是由金管會來做擬定但是我就想要詢問了"},{"start":285.518,"end":308.308,"text":"那麼金融機構他在降房票率的時候我相信就是來做投融資的時候的這些融資的個案我們來做一些指引的宣導但是這樣的標準跟標的有沒有跟環境部做商討而且到底是真率還是假率那誰來判定尤其是金融機構裡面有人可以判定這是真率還是假率嗎"},{"start":309.408,"end":329.437,"text":"報告委員,其實這個部分我跟金管會彭朱惠有討論過這個議題。兩個會來做這個事情。好,什麼時候?有約了嗎?有沒有期程?我什麼時候可以拿到更進一步的資料跟指引的方向?因為其實這份指引我看過了,但是其實都是概念性。我覺得如果是這個概念,我必須講金融機構"},{"start":330.538,"end":332.16,"text":"報告委員,因為我們都有約好啦,但是因為我們都是第一次今天在立法院,所以等到我們稍微一點點上線到,我再一兩個月內會找他來開會。"},{"start":351.42,"end":351.68,"text":"謝謝林楚茵委員的發言"}]}}}}