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00:02:11,206\n不是非常的明確說是什麼理由只能透過負委託賣出連結虛擬貨幣現貨以及期貨相關的商品不可以新增委託買進受到影響的由美國及香港市場約21檔相關的ETF到現在可能還會越來越多我們明白目前國內法規尚不允許我們自己的金融公司推出自己的比特幣ETF在台上市但是禁止國內的民眾以\n\n7\n00:02:11,886 --> 00:02:26,139\n金管會鼓勵的復委託方式來購買不可以購買美國的比特幣現貨的ETF確實在投資界引起了不小的反彈那想請教一下這個我們在3月4號\n\n8\n00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:55,405\n曾經質詢過黃錢主委有表示當時他表示要求券商工會研議是否開放付委託交易加密貨幣尤其比特幣現貨的ETF如果有意則需要在4月底以前提出配套方案甚至有告訴我們最好的消息有可能最快會在4月底已經出現我想請問一下主委據悉券商工會已經在4月中向金管會提出配套方案請問目前的審議進度如何科科檢要說明大概什麼時候我們會有一個明確的結論\n\n9\n00:02:56,505 --> 00:03:16,453\n各位委員,就是我們確實那個券商工會已經在4月24號提出了他們的建議方案過來他們主要參考說現在國際上並不是所有都全面開放比如說韓國跟日本就沒開放但新加坡然後還有像香港他是有開放的就是說這部分券商工會的建議是這樣他說建議開放專業投資人購買虛擬資產ETF且出資買賣是應簽據風險預告書\n\n10\n00:03:22,655 --> 00:03:41,521\n有限定的開放可能會往這個方向走那請問一下投信公會是不是有引進這樣子的一個國外既有的加密貨幣ETF基金向金管會提出或者有沒有其他的金控已經在跟你們講說他們也想要推出自己的比特幣的ETF\n\n11\n00:03:43,484 --> 00:04:11,678\n那委員可不可以允許我們請問局長做更詳細的說明,可以嗎?好,時間不是很多,但是可以戴耀那委員報告,那個投信的部分因為有價增進,比特幣不是有價增進所以那一部分有沒有國內的業者跟你們提出想要開放想要推出這樣的產品有嗎?那我想希望我們可以持續的守護、擁護多元的方針畢竟這是你們的施政報告提出來\n\n12\n00:04:12,718 --> 00:04:33,176\n這一次金管會業務報告也提到了6月底前將公布金融業運用AI指引請問主委指引所涵蓋的面相跟大致的內容能不能讓我們大概知道一下我可不可以請我們那個同仁過來跟您做一個時間稍微暫停一下如果可以讓他移動一下\n\n13\n00:04:34,881 --> 00:04:58,719\n是跟委員報告我們那個AI指引的部分目前是包含像是希望在製裡面的部分希望金融機構至少在針對這個AI系統要他可能要在設計或者是研發甚至是要在有這個模型的時候都必須要先經過公司有一個指定的主管那另外就是針對這個數據的蒐集可能也必須要注意到公平性\n\n14\n00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:19,709\n希望能夠連結到產業的真實面尤其針對伺服器接地等等的一些規範要有一些彈性畢竟大語言模型甚至是AI某種程度來說是非常非常國際化的如果我們只限縮在本地很可能會讓我們的金融業失去競爭力\n\n15\n00:05:20,569 --> 00:05:41,481\n最後還是再次提醒諸位高達84%的臺灣人有投資習慣金管會禁止負委託購買反而會讓更多想買美國比特幣ETF的民眾沒有辦法用金管會鼓勵民眾合法使用負委託的方式來購買比特幣的現貨ETF反而變成要翻牆\n\n16\n00:05:42,882 --> 00:06:07,425\n直接透過海外券商而很多海外券商也被你們名列說是在臺灣不合法如此一來政府將更難以掌握民眾對於美國比特幣ETF的投資情形國內券商則少了手續費的收入民眾如果與國外券商發生投資糾紛還要自行承擔風險甚至可能不勝掉入詐騙的陷阱毫無保障這對於政府\n\n17\n00:06:08,225 --> 00:06:33,815\n國內金融業者和民眾來說可以說三書或者多書我就再次的來跟您分享美國比特幣ETF與其他傳統金融商品其實沒有差別這已經是經過美國的法院所認定的美國SEC也都同意推出了每一位進入投資市場的民眾本來就應該要基本的投資判斷能力希望金管費可以真正的去守護民眾的\n\n18\n00:06:35,236 --> 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有請金管會彭金隆主委備詢聯邦主委\n各位好主委您好今日特別到財委會是想要確認在新主委的領導之下金管會對於前任這個主委的政策相關態度以及後續的做法那金管會其實早就體察民意了解到國人對於多元投資商品的需求所以在113年度也就是今年的施政計畫當中有提到\n開放市格銀行正對高資產客群理財需求提供多元化金融商品擴大金融業務範疇開放證券期貨多元商品及投資管道滿足多元化商品需求考量目前的這個市場的狀況以及我們的這個金融的現況請問一下主委您是否同意遵照黃錢主委的路線捍衛民眾對於投資商品多元選擇的權益\n我想提供我們市場上需要的產品安全的產品一直都是金管會努力的目標很好因為您剛剛也表示不要過度集中那我們就要來問您另外一元就是另外一種Coin\n叫比特元我們民間叫做比特幣啦比特幣ETF的負委託今年1月10號美國證券交易委員會SEC宣布批准比特幣現貨的ETF交易一共有11檔比特幣ETF申請全數獲得通過但是遺憾的是國內券商在1月23號發出公告表示收到金管會一紙通知而且\n不是非常的明確說是什麼理由只能透過負委託賣出連結虛擬貨幣現貨以及期貨相關的商品不可以新增委託買進受到影響的由美國及香港市場約21檔相關的ETF到現在可能還會越來越多我們明白目前國內法規尚不允許我們自己的金融公司推出自己的比特幣ETF在台上市但是禁止國內的民眾以\n金管會鼓勵的復委託方式來購買不可以購買美國的比特幣現貨的ETF確實在投資界引起了不小的反彈那想請教一下這個我們在3月4號\n曾經質詢過黃錢主委有表示當時他表示要求券商工會研議是否開放付委託交易加密貨幣尤其比特幣現貨的ETF如果有意則需要在4月底以前提出配套方案甚至有告訴我們最好的消息有可能最快會在4月底已經出現我想請問一下主委據悉券商工會已經在4月中向金管會提出配套方案請問目前的審議進度如何科科檢要說明大概什麼時候我們會有一個明確的結論\n各位委員,就是我們確實那個券商工會已經在4月24號提出了他們的建議方案過來他們主要參考說現在國際上並不是所有都全面開放比如說韓國跟日本就沒開放但新加坡然後還有像香港他是有開放的就是說這部分券商工會的建議是這樣他說建議開放專業投資人購買虛擬資產ETF且出資買賣是應簽據風險預告書\n有限定的開放可能會往這個方向走那請問一下投信公會是不是有引進這樣子的一個國外既有的加密貨幣ETF基金向金管會提出或者有沒有其他的金控已經在跟你們講說他們也想要推出自己的比特幣的ETF\n那委員可不可以允許我們請問局長做更詳細的說明,可以嗎?好,時間不是很多,但是可以戴耀那委員報告,那個投信的部分因為有價增進,比特幣不是有價增進所以那一部分有沒有國內的業者跟你們提出想要開放想要推出這樣的產品有嗎?那我想希望我們可以持續的守護、擁護多元的方針畢竟這是你們的施政報告提出來\n這一次金管會業務報告也提到了6月底前將公布金融業運用AI指引請問主委指引所涵蓋的面相跟大致的內容能不能讓我們大概知道一下我可不可以請我們那個同仁過來跟您做一個時間稍微暫停一下如果可以讓他移動一下\n是跟委員報告我們那個AI指引的部分目前是包含像是希望在製裡面的部分希望金融機構至少在針對這個AI系統要他可能要在設計或者是研發甚至是要在有這個模型的時候都必須要先經過公司有一個指定的主管那另外就是針對這個數據的蒐集可能也必須要注意到公平性\n希望能夠連結到產業的真實面尤其針對伺服器接地等等的一些規範要有一些彈性畢竟大語言模型甚至是AI某種程度來說是非常非常國際化的如果我們只限縮在本地很可能會讓我們的金融業失去競爭力\n最後還是再次提醒諸位高達84%的臺灣人有投資習慣金管會禁止負委託購買反而會讓更多想買美國比特幣ETF的民眾沒有辦法用金管會鼓勵民眾合法使用負委託的方式來購買比特幣的現貨ETF反而變成要翻牆\n直接透過海外券商而很多海外券商也被你們名列說是在臺灣不合法如此一來政府將更難以掌握民眾對於美國比特幣ETF的投資情形國內券商則少了手續費的收入民眾如果與國外券商發生投資糾紛還要自行承擔風險甚至可能不勝掉入詐騙的陷阱毫無保障這對於政府\n國內金融業者和民眾來說可以說三書或者多書我就再次的來跟您分享美國比特幣ETF與其他傳統金融商品其實沒有差別這已經是經過美國的法院所認定的美國SEC也都同意推出了每一位進入投資市場的民眾本來就應該要基本的投資判斷能力希望金管費可以真正的去守護民眾的\n多元的這樣子的一個方向讓大家有更多的商品選擇資訊公開的透明讓大家都能夠接受投資商品的價格波動不然呢讓大家都只能選擇本地的商品我們的ETF呢講了很多數字講了很多臺灣價值結果到現在價格也還沒回去結果呢明明在美國已經可以合法購買的東西我們卻禁止他用付委託方式購買禁止付委託不是最好的做法\n金管會應該保障民眾以負委託的方式投資國外虛擬貨幣尤其比特幣現貨ETF的權益謝謝謝謝委員執政謝謝好謝謝下一位執行請陳玉珍\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.812 --> 00:05.437\n謝謝主席有請金管會彭金隆主委備詢聯邦主委\n\n00:09.195 --> 00:31.460\n各位好主委您好今日特別到財委會是想要確認在新主委的領導之下金管會對於前任這個主委的政策相關態度以及後續的做法那金管會其實早就體察民意了解到國人對於多元投資商品的需求所以在113年度也就是今年的施政計畫當中有提到\n\n00:32.380 --> 00:59.682\n開放市格銀行正對高資產客群理財需求提供多元化金融商品擴大金融業務範疇開放證券期貨多元商品及投資管道滿足多元化商品需求考量目前的這個市場的狀況以及我們的這個金融的現況請問一下主委您是否同意遵照黃錢主委的路線捍衛民眾對於投資商品多元選擇的權益\n\n01:01.423 --> 01:15.613\n我想提供我們市場上需要的產品安全的產品一直都是金管會努力的目標很好因為您剛剛也表示不要過度集中那我們就要來問您另外一元就是另外一種Coin\n\n01:16.514 --> 01:41.697\n叫比特元我們民間叫做比特幣啦比特幣ETF的負委託今年1月10號美國證券交易委員會SEC宣布批准比特幣現貨的ETF交易一共有11檔比特幣ETF申請全數獲得通過但是遺憾的是國內券商在1月23號發出公告表示收到金管會一紙通知而且\n\n01:42.458 --> 02:11.206\n不是非常的明確說是什麼理由只能透過負委託賣出連結虛擬貨幣現貨以及期貨相關的商品不可以新增委託買進受到影響的由美國及香港市場約21檔相關的ETF到現在可能還會越來越多我們明白目前國內法規尚不允許我們自己的金融公司推出自己的比特幣ETF在台上市但是禁止國內的民眾以\n\n02:11.886 --> 02:26.139\n金管會鼓勵的復委託方式來購買不可以購買美國的比特幣現貨的ETF確實在投資界引起了不小的反彈那想請教一下這個我們在3月4號\n\n02:26.880 --> 02:55.405\n曾經質詢過黃錢主委有表示當時他表示要求券商工會研議是否開放付委託交易加密貨幣尤其比特幣現貨的ETF如果有意則需要在4月底以前提出配套方案甚至有告訴我們最好的消息有可能最快會在4月底已經出現我想請問一下主委據悉券商工會已經在4月中向金管會提出配套方案請問目前的審議進度如何科科檢要說明大概什麼時候我們會有一個明確的結論\n\n02:56.505 --> 03:16.453\n各位委員,就是我們確實那個券商工會已經在4月24號提出了他們的建議方案過來他們主要參考說現在國際上並不是所有都全面開放比如說韓國跟日本就沒開放但新加坡然後還有像香港他是有開放的就是說這部分券商工會的建議是這樣他說建議開放專業投資人購買虛擬資產ETF且出資買賣是應簽據風險預告書\n\n03:22.655 --> 03:41.521\n有限定的開放可能會往這個方向走那請問一下投信公會是不是有引進這樣子的一個國外既有的加密貨幣ETF基金向金管會提出或者有沒有其他的金控已經在跟你們講說他們也想要推出自己的比特幣的ETF\n\n03:43.484 --> 04:11.678\n那委員可不可以允許我們請問局長做更詳細的說明,可以嗎?好,時間不是很多,但是可以戴耀那委員報告,那個投信的部分因為有價增進,比特幣不是有價增進所以那一部分有沒有國內的業者跟你們提出想要開放想要推出這樣的產品有嗎?那我想希望我們可以持續的守護、擁護多元的方針畢竟這是你們的施政報告提出來\n\n04:12.718 --> 04:33.176\n這一次金管會業務報告也提到了6月底前將公布金融業運用AI指引請問主委指引所涵蓋的面相跟大致的內容能不能讓我們大概知道一下我可不可以請我們那個同仁過來跟您做一個時間稍微暫停一下如果可以讓他移動一下\n\n04:34.881 --> 04:58.719\n是跟委員報告我們那個AI指引的部分目前是包含像是希望在製裡面的部分希望金融機構至少在針對這個AI系統要他可能要在設計或者是研發甚至是要在有這個模型的時候都必須要先經過公司有一個指定的主管那另外就是針對這個數據的蒐集可能也必須要注意到公平性\n\n05:02.040 --> 05:19.709\n希望能夠連結到產業的真實面尤其針對伺服器接地等等的一些規範要有一些彈性畢竟大語言模型甚至是AI某種程度來說是非常非常國際化的如果我們只限縮在本地很可能會讓我們的金融業失去競爭力\n\n05:20.569 --> 05:41.481\n最後還是再次提醒諸位高達84%的臺灣人有投資習慣金管會禁止負委託購買反而會讓更多想買美國比特幣ETF的民眾沒有辦法用金管會鼓勵民眾合法使用負委託的方式來購買比特幣的現貨ETF反而變成要翻牆\n\n05:42.882 --> 06:07.425\n直接透過海外券商而很多海外券商也被你們名列說是在臺灣不合法如此一來政府將更難以掌握民眾對於美國比特幣ETF的投資情形國內券商則少了手續費的收入民眾如果與國外券商發生投資糾紛還要自行承擔風險甚至可能不勝掉入詐騙的陷阱毫無保障這對於政府\n\n06:08.225 --> 06:33.815\n國內金融業者和民眾來說可以說三書或者多書我就再次的來跟您分享美國比特幣ETF與其他傳統金融商品其實沒有差別這已經是經過美國的法院所認定的美國SEC也都同意推出了每一位進入投資市場的民眾本來就應該要基本的投資判斷能力希望金管費可以真正的去守護民眾的\n\n06:35.236 --> 07:00.985\n多元的這樣子的一個方向讓大家有更多的商品選擇資訊公開的透明讓大家都能夠接受投資商品的價格波動不然呢讓大家都只能選擇本地的商品我們的ETF呢講了很多數字講了很多臺灣價值結果到現在價格也還沒回去結果呢明明在美國已經可以合法購買的東西我們卻禁止他用付委託方式購買禁止付委託不是最好的做法\n\n07:01.385 --> 07:09.473\n金管會應該保障民眾以負委託的方式投資國外虛擬貨幣尤其比特幣現貨ETF的權益謝謝謝謝委員執政謝謝好謝謝下一位執行請陳玉珍\n\n","segments":[{"start":1.812,"end":5.437,"text":"謝謝主席 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