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00:01:26,421\n如果能夠從一張白紙的時候就開始把它畫上好的顏色多元的顏色或者是從一塊原始的木頭就雕往正確的方向我覺得其實這個路可以走得更少更正確啦可是問題是這個要怎麼走呢不然我今天喔如果你看到你的文化部就如同現在是一個新的概念在執行的話那你今天提出的這個業務報告裡面這個方向\n\n5\n00:01:28,763 --> 00:01:45,863\n甚至是分類我都非常的認同因為坦白講我今天這樣在翻淺顯易懂而且面面俱到大部分都是我們過去這幾年連我本人都非常重視的部分好那如果你剛剛說兒少的話那我就先跟你請教啊那個公視兒少台的開台你有預計的時間嗎\n\n6\n00:01:50,168 --> 00:02:00,316\n不然我只有4分鐘8月20今年就可以了嘛對不對對於這個內容的部分你著重的方向會是在哪一部分教育比較多娛樂比較多\n\n7\n00:02:02,233 --> 00:02:30,003\n我著重在各個方向因為我覺得他應該不要用過去那個以前我們對兒童節目的看法是都是分類嘛對不對非常的分類其實現在的小孩如果看到這麼多的影音節目之外其實之後其實已經不是像我們當時這樣分類任何一種概念都是融在節目裡面的所以部長光是這一題第一題的第一小題基本上就要有新的概念更不要說部長你在提到的校外文化體驗我也質詢過非常多次\n\n8\n00:02:31,804 --> 00:02:58,256\n其實你說現在要讓各個小朋友可以去各地的演藝廳、美術館、博物館我也贊成但你現在再怎麼說說到這裡如果只有單就文化部的話我覺得這個還是場館體驗啦坦白講也還是場館體驗所以我會希望能夠跳脫更多的思維你直接跟教育部合作是不是有可能的比如說教育部其實有他規定的一些提出的一些場館\n\n9\n00:02:59,457 --> 00:03:19,907\n比如說像921地震紀念館甚至是國家的太空中心這個已經遠超過您現在在這裡提出的展演中心我為什麼提這個因為我們事實上可以有更多的太空文化場域之外可以是太空文化體驗這是你可以做到的甚至是我們一直在說我們從出版界比如說我們一直在講台漫藝人茶几我覺得非常好的漫畫\n\n10\n00:03:51,465 --> 00:04:18,321\n部長這個一定是好的啦你說對就好了快點我剩20秒對啦對啦對啦這一定好的啦我跟你講的然後後面其實我還有太多比如說出版產業界你在這個第9頁這邊喔你說為了保障出版社的合理利潤喔要鼓勵各縣市公共圖書館以7折以上採購這個我也完全贊成質詢多次另外你說要擴大電子書的計次借閱服務的話我也認為非常好\n\n11\n00:04:18,561 --> 00:04:37,897\n因為本席之前推動了公共借閱權過去限於紙本書那看起來有它的困難如果你能夠把它轉型成為電子書我覺得非常好大力給你支持希望能夠徹底的執行做到不知道這也可以同意吧對不對對是好啦所以我們今天要講4分鐘實在是到底要怎麼講文化政策好\n\n12\n00:04:38,758 --> 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