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--> 00:02:13,306\n強化低薪的部分事實上不是只有勞動部他還必須會同經濟部、金管會等那麼其實經濟部在最近通過的中小企業加薪抵稅條例就是我們行政院提出的中小企業加薪抵稅條例其實這一定程度的可以讓企業有對員工加薪的誘因要開抵稅那當然這個是經濟部的工具那麼我們希望能夠在這個基礎上\n\n7\n00:02:45,432 --> 00:03:11,167\n我們本黨可能近期也會提出所謂七月三法就是有獲利的上市公使可能要做這個部分那部長5月初我們剛結束那個臺美貿易協定的這個第二階段的談判那我想您了解其中有關勞動議題的部分很受重視那美國是希望臺灣要能夠禁止輸入有強迫勞動所製造的這個產品那如果在國內發現的話就必須下架那請問勞動部有沒有開始去盤點\n\n8\n00:03:12,868 --> 00:03:17,591\n我們進口品當中有哪些是屬於這個所謂強迫勞動產出的產品是委員報告喔勞動部本身有在做跟移民所合作研究計畫正在研究什麼是強迫勞動產品事實上根據我的瞭解喔這個強迫勞動產品的清單應該是可能是必須美方提供啦而不是我方所以這個\n\n9\n00:03:40,666 --> 00:04:01,487\n對,所以這個部分未來因為台美這個談判還在持續中事實上他們6月才剛離開那當然等一下我會提到國內部分因為我覺得這個緊張的瞭解不只是說為了幫助這個台美貿易協定的進行另外一方面也讓我們國人能夠有預先準備到底哪一些產品是屬於這個部分我們要準備替代品嘛\n\n10\n00:04:03,029 --> 00:04:19,985\n我們也要避免在這個執行所謂強迫勞動產品認定的過程裡面去引發不必要的民怨你知道台灣本身也有強迫勞動的問題因為美國國務院人權報告就指出台灣仲介向移工收取費用\n\n11\n00:04:20,986 --> 00:04:23,348\n這就是用強迫勞動的他們的定義強迫勞動那因為美國勞動部的這個同工跟所謂的這個強迫勞動製品名單臺灣的漁獲漁獲的這個部分也被列為強迫勞動所得的這個產品那我知道這個遠洋漁工是屬於農業部來管理的\n\n12\n00:04:38,922 --> 00:04:59,428\n但是監察院也提出過報告那行政院也有指示就是說是不是要做跨部委勞動部也要參與這個部分因為這些遠洋漁工他們的權益跟勞基法有相當的這個距離那所以勞動部可能也是責無旁貸啦那對於漁工重借費收取重借費不曉得部長您的想法是什麼\n\n13\n00:05:00,308 --> 00:05:14,585\n是我們很努力的在因為這是來源國的問題因為漁工收取仲介費基本上是在我講的是臺灣的仲介收取的部分因為他們據說我們是唯一的一個國家有收取這樣的費用\n\n14\n00:05:15,922 --> 00:05:23,167\n我們的定義是你有服務才能收費啦所以那不是那那並不是必要而且是他們雙方合意的\n\n15\n00:05:46,202 --> 00:05:58,532\n是的我們正在研究重借會跟移工收取服務費那另外一個就取消如果取消這個服務費會有什麼影響我們可以就取消會有什麼影響那是不是請勞動部可以做個書面報告提供我們好謝謝那部長您接任這個勞動部部長有個消息傳來當然某一些勞動團體他們有反彈因為他們當時認為就是說所謂的在他們眼中是個惡法勞基法是個惡法\n\n16\n00:06:18,866 --> 00:06:38,620\n您當年曾經積極參加勞工運動帶著工人前往勞委會衝撞然後跟警方發生衝突還因此被判刑您是創下學生參與社會運動第一個被判刑的例子雖然最後是緩刑所以我相信勞工仍然是你心中最軟的一塊\n\n17\n00:06:39,480 --> 00:07:04,573\n那也有人說勞工是你血液中的DNA那我希望部長在您的任期當中能夠努力的推動對勞工權益有幫助的一個法案我覺得您這個表現如果您有好的表現的話那未來就是說這些所謂的質疑它是一個平反的機會不曉得部長您對這個部分的想法是怎麼樣\n\n18\n00:07:05,913 --> 00:07:13,376\n是,謝謝委員,您很了解我對,那就是說因為我確實35年前曾經有這樣子的一個經驗那麼不過因為當時是年輕那麼有這個當時的人道關懷那麼現在我一樣會秉持我的人道關懷對我們勞工朋友做最大的施政努力這一點請您放100個心我覺得對\n\n19\n00:07:30,521 --> 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