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00:00:51,985\n我要請教我們部長因為過去你在產業界來我要請教你一個就是今天的報告補充理由跟這一本的業務報告\n\n4\n00:00:54,096 --> 00:01:17,689\n到底要用哪一本?沒關係,不用緊張啦,保證我們是來探討問題我要請教你這一本有沒有看過?有,看兩遍那這些是榮收版對,這個是把重點在業務報告的前期也就是把因為我們要做的事情很多那我把重點未來的前期部長,我告訴你這一本我都拜讀過\n\n5\n00:01:19,471 --> 00:01:36,407\n就跟唐鳳部長70%完全一模一樣本席非常在乎也一直在提醒我記得NCC就被我退過一次到現在都還沒有補部長我只是告訴你這一篇裡面\n\n6\n00:01:37,208 --> 00:01:57,693\n只有第1項、第8項、第9項是新的文字更改其他一模一樣計報告委員因為施政要延續所以我們不可能是我知道啦施政要延續但是新的部長跟舊的部長作法會不一樣嘛就像你這一本\n\n7\n00:01:58,653 --> 00:02:13,794\n您講得很清楚這是你要施政的這些方向所以我要建議部長沒有苛責的意識我希望你這個榮收板再補一份書面資料給各\n\n8\n00:02:14,375 --> 00:02:36,727\n委員,這一本反而是清清楚楚啊知道黃部長要做的跟那個唐部長完全不一樣啊所以這裡不一樣就是你的三支箭跟那個唐部長完全不一樣啊其實我蠻在乎這個風氣也就是不要延續性的政策我贊同\n\n9\n00:02:37,788 --> 00:03:07,088\n但是不要一字不漏的這樣去抄這不是一個經營企業或者一個部會應有的所以這點我給部長一個建議好不好所以希望你這個很明確未來你要做的事情是跟委員來報告接下來要審預算所以你叫我們如何去支持你的預算很簡單就是你的方向跟你的報告我們認為可行我們就支持啊\n\n10\n00:03:07,768 --> 00:03:08,529\n不是嗎?\n\n11\n00:03:08,529 --> 00:03:14,213\n所以部長,就是好像說不用緊張啦,這我們就要探討一個理由啦,好不好?\n\n12\n00:03:14,213 --> 00:03:31,065\n好,謝謝,謝謝。那另外一個齁,另外一個,我還是這樣啦齁,我還是鼓勵啊,你是產官學都做過,所以我還是蠻希望部長在這個部分要發揮你的長才,我一再提醒政務官,\n\n13\n00:03:31,826 --> 00:03:53,969\n不能用政黨色彩在做老百姓的事立法委員也是在做老百姓的事部長也是在做老百姓的事所以在這個部分我真的蠻期待我們黃部長在這個部分真的要為老百姓來做事那我看到你的報告基本上當然也有你的新的做法\n\n14\n00:03:55,850 --> 00:04:15,335\n另外一個我又要跟部長來探討的就是詐騙礦場的這個部分那當然因為你這個三字件這裡面確確實實有這個部分那這個部分我還是覺得現在包括檢察官\n\n15\n00:04:16,314 --> 00:04:44,044\n包括任何老百姓的感覺在這個部分已經大家可以看部長你可以看我們近5年來的詐騙案子他日益跟一心喔他完全他的態度跟以前打打電話去詐騙的動作現在不是喔只要簡信傳給你一案就被騙所以他是日新夜異的這些\n\n16\n00:04:44,884 --> 00:05:05,077\n的那個方法所以我要認為數位部要比他們更先進這是我個人的主張跟個人的建議所以啊在這個部分我不曉得我們部長針對這個部分應該要如何來應對是不是我時間給你你可以說明一下嗎好謝謝委員\n\n17\n00:05:06,077 --> 00:05:28,793\n我在我的打那個三支箭裡面第一支箭就打炸那打炸我體驗第一個就是說我們今天有個工具就是我們打炸法已經出了行政院希望委員能夠支持那趕快通立法通過通過之後我們會對這個這個打炸至少有法可華了可以可以管理他們會這個比如說比如說廣告平台上必須落地等等等會實名制都我們都可以強迫他們進行\n\n18\n00:05:29,594 --> 00:05:53,887\n那我們另外的重要工作是我們會有一個打詐的通報查詢網這個好處就是說我們收到一個不管是訊息、email或簡訊我們若不確定把這個東西把它貼在我們這樣打詐的這個網我們會用AI的技術馬上做研判看裡面內容如果有可能是這個詐騙的話我們會通報相關的單位趕快進行調查或是處理那這樣的話民眾也可以看到說\n\n19\n00:05:54,847 --> 00:06:15,225\n如果你不要輕易相信收到了任何訊息如果不確定就到我們的打炸查詢網去看是不是已經有人通報過或者希望能夠在所謂的因為我們打炸有幾個步驟試炸是第一步如果我們知道這是詐騙訊息我們就不會被騙所以我們會加強試炸工作從這個服務來提供給民眾做一個很快的判斷\n\n20\n00:06:15,785 --> 00:06:39,108\n好部長這裡面有兩個問題打詐當然就是要追根就底現在有國內的不管是LINE也好什麼也好有幾個管道這個是國際設在國際在台灣我們是沒有辦法追的這個第一你如何去突破第二因為打詐的責任\n\n21\n00:06:40,990 --> 00:07:06,562\n數位的部分是你負責但是治安調查的部分是內政部負責是跨部會的這個部分所以你如何去把它整合或者建議行政院要有一個指揮專責機構這個很重要喔不要做個人做個人這樣到最後所有的所有的法條過了以後還是前功盡棄這個部分這兩個請部長回答\n\n22\n00:07:09,423 --> 00:07:30,970\n我們本來就是一個跨部會的合作那行政院這個成績我們已經有個打詐的一個這樣的辦公室但是我們剛剛講這個打詐這個我們這個打詐查詢網會讓我們很快的能夠通報整個包括警政署包括其他部會來進行打詐的工作然後希望能夠很快速做處理來加速我們處理這個打詐的這個這樣的一個時程讓打詐的這個能夠詐騙時間減少很多\n\n23\n00:07:35,171 --> 00:07:51,959\n另外一個就是國外的這些LINE或者臉書這個部分打詐專法會要求這些人在台灣要落地或者有法律代表我們會跟這些人就是他們如果不配合包括打詐工作我們可以對他罰款那希望用這個方式來強迫他們跟著我們配合\n\n24\n00:07:52,319 --> 00:08:06,170\n好部長我這樣大概啦我還是了解但是剛剛我所執行的我希望你剛剛的簡便的報告這個寫的比這個你的報告書裡面更清楚我希望你補給我們委員會所有的委員\n\n25\n00:08:08,632 --> 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