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00:02:01,133\n剛剛林國生委員講的很好那本書如果都是照以前唐鳳部長留下來的話那會讓我們國人非常的失望因為我如果記得沒有錯的話在這個所謂的打架打炸國家隊基本上我對國家隊這三個字都是充滿失望從頭到尾我沒有聽到國家隊真的對我們民眾特別有感打炸國家隊三大戰犯裡面數位發展部NCC金管會\n\n6\n00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:07,547\n那我會認為說這就是上面來講我們先直接從打詐開始講解好了下一頁\n\n7\n00:02:08,943 --> 00:02:26,979\n這是我們知道全國人民認為的事情也就是詐騙訊息接受的經驗加起來不多87.9%比87%好一點將近88%也就是如果直接換算成全國人民的話我們將近2300萬人裡面有2100萬人收到詐騙訊息請問部長您怎麼看這個現象那個\n\n8\n00:02:34,005 --> 00:02:34,185\n拜訪委員\n\n9\n00:03:05,246 --> 00:03:32,524\n我完全認同你講的話但是我也必須幫您開脫一句話這句話我希望您帶給行政院因為打詐也好有關避免我剛剛講的所有風險來好你數位發展部一個部來處理所有的事情你預算不見得比人家高但是你要負責的東西比人家重得多而全國民眾看到的都是你他們甚至不會把NCC放在第一線全部都是數位發展部該做什麼數位發展部既然你是科技部數位發展部但是如果做不到就是你的問題\n\n10\n00:03:33,345 --> 00:03:51,117\n因為所有人都只看懶人包所有人都只看標題式標題式的新聞如果有什麼地方做不好打詐詐騙科技詐騙出來賴詐騙出來FB詐騙出來明年詐騙出來第一個想到數位發展部他們不會想到NCC他們不會想到金管會他們不會想到內政部對吧\n\n11\n00:03:52,478 --> 00:04:11,269\n我剛剛就委員報告就是說這個打詐的這個工作是這是跨部會的整合要有效果一定是資訊流人流跟金流要一起合作那當然這裡面我們在資訊流我們盡量去阻擋那當然我就剛講因為資訊流管道太多不可能完全擋得住所以最重要還是在教導民眾試詐\n\n12\n00:04:12,350 --> 00:04:41,510\n那事詐就有所謂的我剛剛講的打詐呼這樣查詢網就通報查詢網就是讓民眾去增加事詐的能力能夠希望能夠民眾減少因為你收到假訊息你也知道說這個是假的你就比較不會進入所謂金流那一段的詐騙部長這就是再下一頁部長這就是講你請看這個我後面powerpoint這才是最我覺得本席覺得最悲哀最可惜的地方我們居然有43%的民眾如果被詐騙了之後居然是自認理虧耶\n\n13\n00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:54,661\n那現在不管說是生物技術deepfake還是所有AI生成的工具還是生成式AI的所有東西導致說我們上次看到我們葛如軍委員去質詢前行政院長陳建仁的時候\n\n14\n00:04:58,764 --> 00:05:24,057\n陳建仁陳院長不會覺得這個不會是個幽默感而是直接的大發雷霆因為他覺得他被騙了可是他被騙了之後呢他還有人可以去抱怨因為他知道誰在騙他他知道誰在開這個玩笑但是一般的人有什麼人可以他有什麼人可以去幫忙這件事情呢他們向警政機關求助向反詐騙相關單位求助但是最多的時候啊算了\n\n15\n00:05:39,528 --> 00:05:56,010\n害人聽聞的事情對吧?對,同意不過跟委員報告我剛剛講就是說我們其實你這邊列的是被騙但是事實上我們希望減少是被騙也就是說詐騙的數目就是說詐騙訊息數目不會減少但是我們希望被騙的少很多\n\n16\n00:05:56,491 --> 00:06:21,798\n那為什麼可以被騙少很多就是我們用一些科技技術比如AI技術剛剛講用我們這個打造查詢網跟這個通報查詢網希望被騙能夠大量減少這是我們一開始能夠做的最主要工作也是希望在短期之內能夠看到的這個我們書發部的一些措施能夠讓民眾知道什麼樣去查詢然後減少被騙的機會跟次數這是我們希望的目標\n\n17\n00:06:22,398 --> 00:06:49,880\n被騙人的訊息可能不會減少可是被騙的次數一定會減少部長其實我剛剛其實您這個數位發展部裡面最重要的業務好像不是打雜而是所謂的民主網路跟所謂其他的這個數位經濟的發展但是這方面前面我當然讀過你們的整個預算我對你們後來凍結預算我還有其他的意見不過因為時間的關係我想提醒部長一件蠻重要的事也就是剛剛昭偉特地提過的事\n\n18\n00:06:51,321 --> 00:07:20,094\n我比較希望說我再看到未來的每一位部長上面來講所謂接地氣或言語上面的用詞要相當的精準因為每一個言語上面的用詞不精準的話會讓人家誤解說您是否對這份工作是不是不夠尊重當我們聽到一些接地氣的語言的時候我就不再最初接地氣語言是寫什麼我們希望是downtoearth不是單單純純的slang\n\n19\n00:07:21,810 --> 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