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00:05:02,213\n另外部長我想我還是要再提醒一下我們的資通安全管理法已經上路5年但是我們相對應我們的人力的部分的缺口一直沒有補齊你沒有人你要怎麼做這麼多的事也不要怎麼做這麼多的事這是一個很大的危機尤其目前我們看到的我們現在目前的編制的人力從中央政府到地方機關總共編制資訊的處理的一個仔細的部分只有編列3600多人遠遠\n\n14\n00:05:05,214 --> 00:05:07,095\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸\n\n15\n00:05:33,585 --> 00:05:50,180\n這部分是不是有調整的空間?要不然你們怎麼面對這個真財的一個困境?那個報告委員當然就是說這個我們一般但第一個人才我們會從內部很多實時訓練啦我記得有個目標希望兩年之內我們在內部能夠訓練一千個人為我們公部門所用\n\n16\n00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:50,820\n徐富癸\n\n17\n00:06:06,186 --> 00:06:06,246\n徐富癸．\n\n18\n00:06:26,949 --> 00:06:54,164\n這個還是要請部長我們要加油這個讓更多的人才能那最後一個我想針對這個詐騙部分剛剛我們有聽到我們這個召委也有特別提醒部長部長這些信行樓信地購這有時候我們的發言甚至一些文書的資料這個真的要特別要小心尤其這個我記得部長來拜訪的時候有特別提到針對這個網路平台業者的部分應該是蘿蔔跟棍子一定要啟發\n\n19\n00:06:55,265 --> 00:07:11,082\n那針對這部分我想我們目前掌握到的資料從去年7月到今年5月我們通報的一個平台有移除11萬多但是還是層出不窮尤其這些名人詐騙的案子後續的部分有沒有什麼更積極的作為\n\n20\n00:07:12,483 --> 00:07:26,790\n對,剛剛就是,剛剛那個我也講過就是說,這個當然一個我們要讓這個一般民眾有這個視乍能力能夠提升啦,這個不要輕易相信網路平台業者的廣告。那當然跟網路平台業者我剛剛講的就是說,我們還希望能夠跟他們多溝通。\n\n21\n00:07:27,470 --> 00:07:55,687\n希望能夠多配合當然在打詐法通過專法通過之前用這種方式來跟我們多交通然後當然剛剛講說打詐查詢跟這個通報網也是用這樣的機制能夠很快速的通報這些業者能夠把一些這個所謂的不實廣告下架當然就是多管齊一下啦但是我剛剛就講說真的這個在我們這個通過之前我會盡量跟這些業者溝通啦就是希望他們能夠配合政府的政策\n\n22\n00:08:11,661 --> 00:08:37,788\n部長,我想另外還有一個特別要請部長這邊注意的就是針對老人家這個詐騙案件因為依據本市的瞭解齁,我們現在整個這個市段齁,氣用騙的,但是礙於面子,不敢講啦。這辛苦一輩子打拚的這個錢齁,用騙的料理齁。我想我們現在比較大的困境在於說我們的一個資訊的一個傳播的速度有很明顯的城鄉差距。\n\n23\n00:08:38,328 --> 00:09:05,609\n我們整個地方的資訊都不知道尤其老人家他在滑手機他並不曉得那麼掌握那麼多的一個訊息那針對這部分我們數位部在各地都有一個數位的一個機位中心甚至我們每個鄉域現在都有所謂的關懷據點未來是不是有辦法針對這個老人家的一個詐騙的預防甚至彌平這個數位差距的這一環能夠來強化一個詐騙的一個作為跟宣達\n\n24\n00:09:06,589 --> 00:09:22,558\n有一個方式我要進行的就是我們會把一些詐騙的這個一些資訊拍成比如說短影音或拍成一些教材然後就可以經過這樣一個社群平台去做播放讓老人可以看得到這些\n\n25\n00:09:22,958 --> 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他們有這樣相關的一個專長但是他們就是必須到中部北部去工作他們很想回到病棟故鄉一定會列入考慮大家一起努力一下\n那第二個就是在請教部長國安局日前表示我們境外的一個網路清騷的部分從今年初的選舉後每天100多萬次到目前提高到每天有250幾萬次尤其主要是針對我們的政府機構來清騷那也造成很大的危害甚至在媒體報導我們在評估友邦的一個機密文件的外洩最大的風險是在所謂的一個外管\n針對這個部分我們說出發部有沒有什麼樣的因應作為?\n對就是我們現在就是我們治安這個畫面我們叫治安署就是在治安法通過當然第一個就是目前來講治安署會做在我們的公部門做所謂的治安的集合跟治安的這個巡查跟治安的演練當然我們希望說不至於本身的治安要做好那當然就是說將來我們還會在我們的所謂的關注關鍵基礎建設像西安會這個這些單位也會做同樣的工作至於基安的工作我是不是請那個治安署署長在做\n報告委員我們會有分三大塊第一大塊是情資的交流只要任何地方有類似的攻擊我們就會立刻掌握因為我們有一些很多國家跟很多地方都有跟我們簽MOU所以立刻掌握之後我們就會主動防禦好這第一塊第二塊我們有應變處理所以我們的那個任何的事件我們會集合大家力量立刻做應變然後阻斷他的攻擊然後第三塊我們會有\n徐富癸．\n另外部長我想我還是要再提醒一下我們的資通安全管理法已經上路5年但是我們相對應我們的人力的部分的缺口一直沒有補齊你沒有人你要怎麼做這麼多的事也不要怎麼做這麼多的事這是一個很大的危機尤其目前我們看到的我們現在目前的編制的人力從中央政府到地方機關總共編制資訊的處理的一個仔細的部分只有編列3600多人遠遠\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸\n這部分是不是有調整的空間?要不然你們怎麼面對這個真財的一個困境?那個報告委員當然就是說這個我們一般但第一個人才我們會從內部很多實時訓練啦我記得有個目標希望兩年之內我們在內部能夠訓練一千個人為我們公部門所用\n徐富癸\n徐富癸．\n這個還是要請部長我們要加油這個讓更多的人才能那最後一個我想針對這個詐騙部分剛剛我們有聽到我們這個召委也有特別提醒部長部長這些信行樓信地購這有時候我們的發言甚至一些文書的資料這個真的要特別要小心尤其這個我記得部長來拜訪的時候有特別提到針對這個網路平台業者的部分應該是蘿蔔跟棍子一定要啟發\n那針對這部分我想我們目前掌握到的資料從去年7月到今年5月我們通報的一個平台有移除11萬多但是還是層出不窮尤其這些名人詐騙的案子後續的部分有沒有什麼更積極的作為\n對,剛剛就是,剛剛那個我也講過就是說,這個當然一個我們要讓這個一般民眾有這個視乍能力能夠提升啦,這個不要輕易相信網路平台業者的廣告。那當然跟網路平台業者我剛剛講的就是說,我們還希望能夠跟他們多溝通。\n希望能夠多配合當然在打詐法通過專法通過之前用這種方式來跟我們多交通然後當然剛剛講說打詐查詢跟這個通報網也是用這樣的機制能夠很快速的通報這些業者能夠把一些這個所謂的不實廣告下架當然就是多管齊一下啦但是我剛剛就講說真的這個在我們這個通過之前我會盡量跟這些業者溝通啦就是希望他們能夠配合政府的政策\n﹏﹏\n部長,我想另外還有一個特別要請部長這邊注意的就是針對老人家這個詐騙案件因為依據本市的瞭解齁,我們現在整個這個市段齁,氣用騙的,但是礙於面子,不敢講啦。這辛苦一輩子打拚的這個錢齁,用騙的料理齁。我想我們現在比較大的困境在於說我們的一個資訊的一個傳播的速度有很明顯的城鄉差距。\n我們整個地方的資訊都不知道尤其老人家他在滑手機他並不曉得那麼掌握那麼多的一個訊息那針對這部分我們數位部在各地都有一個數位的一個機位中心甚至我們每個鄉域現在都有所謂的關懷據點未來是不是有辦法針對這個老人家的一個詐騙的預防甚至彌平這個數位差距的這一環能夠來強化一個詐騙的一個作為跟宣達\n有一個方式我要進行的就是我們會把一些詐騙的這個一些資訊拍成比如說短影音或拍成一些教材然後就可以經過這樣一個社群平台去做播放讓老人可以看得到這些\n徐富癸委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.496 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03:14.410\n針對這個部分我們說出發部有沒有什麼樣的因應作為?\n\n03:15.323 --> 03:44.117\n對就是我們現在就是我們治安這個畫面我們叫治安署就是在治安法通過當然第一個就是目前來講治安署會做在我們的公部門做所謂的治安的集合跟治安的這個巡查跟治安的演練當然我們希望說不至於本身的治安要做好那當然就是說將來我們還會在我們的所謂的關注關鍵基礎建設像西安會這個這些單位也會做同樣的工作至於基安的工作我是不是請那個治安署署長在做\n\n03:47.367 --> 04:11.618\n報告委員我們會有分三大塊第一大塊是情資的交流只要任何地方有類似的攻擊我們就會立刻掌握因為我們有一些很多國家跟很多地方都有跟我們簽MOU所以立刻掌握之後我們就會主動防禦好這第一塊第二塊我們有應變處理所以我們的那個任何的事件我們會集合大家力量立刻做應變然後阻斷他的攻擊然後第三塊我們會有\n\n04:12.819 --> 04:13.139\n徐富癸．\n\n04:35.765 --> 05:02.213\n另外部長我想我還是要再提醒一下我們的資通安全管理法已經上路5年但是我們相對應我們的人力的部分的缺口一直沒有補齊你沒有人你要怎麼做這麼多的事也不要怎麼做這麼多的事這是一個很大的危機尤其目前我們看到的我們現在目前的編制的人力從中央政府到地方機關總共編制資訊的處理的一個仔細的部分只有編列3600多人遠遠\n\n05:05.214 --> 05:07.095\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸\n\n05:33.585 --> 05:50.180\n這部分是不是有調整的空間?要不然你們怎麼面對這個真財的一個困境?那個報告委員當然就是說這個我們一般但第一個人才我們會從內部很多實時訓練啦我記得有個目標希望兩年之內我們在內部能夠訓練一千個人為我們公部門所用\n\n05:50.640 --> 05:50.820\n徐富癸\n\n06:06.186 --> 06:06.246\n徐富癸．\n\n06:26.949 --> 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