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00:02:32,516\n未經國際奧委會特別許可,任何團體或個人都不得將它用於廣告或者其他商業性的活動。如果不是商業目的,則必須是奧運會的主辦程式,官方贊助商或授權商使用。麻煩進一步了解,我們目前使用這樣的一個設計或再設計或再修改,\n\n8\n00:02:33,197 --> 00:02:52,008\n有沒有符合規定有沒有符合授權的機制否則呢這個案子對我們的國際形象會有重大的影響也會關乎未來中華奧會跟國際奧會之間未來的合作關係那我想接下來是不是能夠請這個部長還有這個跟文化部一起共同釐清這個授權使用的問題那後續的處理能不能將一週內將書面報告提供為本席\n\n9\n00:02:56,255 --> 00:03:06,836\n我想謝謝委員的提醒,確實只有奧委會,台灣的奧委會可以使用這一個五個圈環,那我們會跟文化部來進一步來瞭解\n\n10\n00:03:08,758 --> 00:03:37,271\n我想好的設計大家都歡迎但是在使用上面要符合文化以及符合制裁權的規範否則的話很可能會給大家帶來一些麻煩這都不是我們想看到接下來想請教一下部長有關數位教育的問題這幾天引起的話題蔡前總統在任期倒數的期間在臉書細數了8年內執政的成果結果在教育面向卻只提到了兩個大重點斑斑有冷氣深深用平板當然這是很好的政策但是這些主要都是花錢\n\n11\n00:03:38,211 --> 00:03:53,622\n花錢可能就有當然執行過程有很耗心力但是我想應該不會只有這個吧那引發了各界熱議對於數位教育的政策硬體資源的部件還有我們的軟體的增進或者甚至AI的導入到底是什麼\n\n12\n00:03:54,002 --> 00:03:54,022\n獲得獎項\n\n13\n00:04:17,123 --> 00:04:37,672\n這次提出我也非常期待那我想接下來其實還不只是這些McKinsey的全球研究院也指出有很多的教師的時間大量的浪費在可以自動化的任務上比如說批改作業規劃課程等等有沒有考慮能夠使用AI來協助教師減輕行政工作\n\n14\n00:04:38,172 --> 00:04:47,173\n甚至來協助第一線的教師逐步採用AI工具來協助他們的一些日常的行政事務請教一下部長教育部目前的立場是什麼\n\n15\n00:04:49,003 --> 00:05:07,856\n謝謝委員的一個關心確實我們現在目前跟國科會有發展這個EDE這個TECH那我想在這個屬於我們自己研發出來的未來他就如委員所說的他一定會是希望能夠用來減緩我們疏解我們第一線上的許多的行政\n\n16\n00:05:08,977 --> 00:05:23,671\n我想這個部分也是希望未來了解一下就是自研跟使用成熟的這些技術或者廠商的這些服務去finetune或再修改或再設計或再製作到底哪個好哪個不好我們之後未來再一起來研議那當然我想有這樣的精神還是很好的事\n\n17\n00:05:26,514 --> 00:05:53,549\n另外也提醒教育部教學現場的教跟學也是密不可分AI的使用指引目前比較是以老師來做教學的規範但是學生到底要怎麼樣做AI的使用原則其實目前是相對比較不清楚的請教一下部長教育部是否研議推出高中以下學生版的AI使用指引讓學生未來無論是在學習或者競賽我們之前有學生很會用AI結果參加比賽被記的小過\n\n18\n00:05:54,890 --> 00:06:08,261\n那甚至是未來入學考試上到底能不能用AI來重新修整他的文字內容能不能提出用AI化的話他提出了以後有沒有要做標注有沒有明確的AI使用原則可以運行教育部會不會提出呢在哪裡指引在哪裡學生用的喔\n\n19\n00:06:25,339 --> 00:06:50,695\n我們現在是國會殿堂喔最近我們拜託跟委員報告就是我們的學生的部分我們在3.0的地方會特別在所以就是10月嘛還沒推出啦所以未來麻煩注意一下謝謝這真的是要快一點因為馬上升學季嘛那本席再次強調啦不光是給老師的教學指引學生真的也需要使用指引請教育部對此進行研議現在是五月份嘛\n\n20\n00:06:51,115 --> 00:07:16,117\n我是希望能夠快一點啦能不能3月至少有一個初步的結果三個月內啦否則的話學生到底能不能用AI怎麼用AI他可不可以用它來做工作能不能做報告要不要標注能不能拿來升學我們都不知道那再來請教一下教育部長目前大學入學的備審資料及學位論文的撰寫有沒有規範有沒有明確的規範到底能不能用深層式的AI規範如何\n\n21\n00:07:21,101 --> 00:07:26,303\n這題應該很簡單阿馬上要那個學位考試了嘛大家能不能用AI寫論文阿這個當然是不行的確定嗎目前沒有規範但是有一些部長要確認喔這個這個講出來很嚴重喔跟委員報告大概用CHATGPT去協助去許多資料的收集或者有一些這一個我請他幫我優化我的論文段落可不可以阿這當然是可以的\n\n22\n00:07:49,792 --> 00:07:53,915\n教育部有沒有推出一個完整的說明在官網還是在哪裡還是我們就是要等10月一切都等10月是這樣嗎跟委員報告\n\n23\n00:08:05,021 --> 00:08:29,375\n我都有一個AI的工作圈我們會把...盡快研議一下為什麼現在國際已經非常多在討論這個事情昨天出來的新聞ComputerScience裡面的論文大概有17.5%都有AI參與的這個痕跡而且他未必有標注那到底我們的規範是什麼到底是一個論文的合理使用生成式的AI比例是多少\n\n24\n00:08:29,855 --> 00:08:54,489\n到底是30%50%60%還是90%教育部應該要來明確規範而且到底有沒有要標示像以前我們在網路上查資料以後都要放到reference最早期的時候沒有規定大家不一定放但是現在有了規定大家都要放可是AI的指引是完全沒有的我們沒有任何的規範還是APA格式有修正這個教育部能不能把這個相關的細節呢早一點公開讓大家知道\n\n25\n00:08:55,818 --> 00:09:21,601\n謝謝委員提醒我想涉及到這一個學術倫理的東西我們要這個加速來做我們真的不希望過了幾十年之後大家又忽然回來找說誰誰誰的論文是AI寫的那結果影響到這些人的這個選舉或被選舉權這都不是我們想要看到的那也提醒一下部長目前教育部沒有給予這個各大學官方認定的AI生成比對的工具這造成什麼問題呢第一線教室要用肉眼去審查\n\n26\n00:09:22,742 --> 00:09:38,238\n學生是不是有使用生成式AI的痕跡同時學生很可能也沒有相關的規範來告訴他能用不能用使得可能會違背了所謂的平權的精神家境比較好的學生用了付費版的GPT或者付費版的AI\n\n27\n00:09:38,598 --> 00:10:03,977\n他的東西做出來特別漂亮特別好看特別閱讀起來特別流暢結果呢免費版的東西做的就比較爛甚至現在開始有這種GPT的apps結果呢只有付費版的學生可以使用請教一下部長教育部有沒有可能迅速的提出AI生成比對工具的認證清單來供各大專院校參考使用讓教師擺脫用肉眼來看到底誰是人誰是AI能不能做到這件事\n\n28\n00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:27,471\n我們會透過這個工作群裡邊來請大專業校裡邊我們這個委員來看怎麼樣從專業裡邊更清楚來做一些規範我想AI真的是一直在變我想希望真的是希望教育部接下來有一個整個非常棒的團隊都希望能夠又是AI內閣我們趕快來做一些指引讓大家有跡可循\n\n29\n00:10:28,491 --> 00:10:48,176\n再來我也要來談這個高教教學品質的擔憂因為我過去也在學校裡面根據監察院110年的調查109年全國大專院校的兼任教師超過4萬人近20年的漲幅高達56%有一個超級可怕的數據目前兼任跟專人的教師逼近1比1\n\n30\n00:10:48,996 --> 00:11:14,310\n而且過半以上的私立大專業院校兼任教師比重高達五成以上甚至有私立大專業院校有高達八成以上當然你從好處看你說我們有很多這個海納百川有很多的人才但是現在的招生人數逐年下降光112年度就有9800多位教師未獲續聘其中本來沒有本職沒有其他的工作只靠中典費維生的人就高達20%\n\n31\n00:11:15,831 --> 00:11:26,559\n教育部號稱今年幫公立大學兼任師資調漲終點費30年來第一次調整我們來看一下日間從每小時教授等級995變1035我們來看最多的講師其實就是兼任講師725塊調到755塊增加30塊錢\n\n32\n00:11:35,265 --> 00:11:47,215\n我們的茶葉蛋已經漲了200%結果這些人的時薪竟然只調3%不到部長您認為這樣的薪資調服三顆茶葉蛋有助於提升大學的教學品質嗎?您知道這件事嗎?\n\n33\n00:11:51,176 --> 00:12:11,313\n您覺得這樣合理嗎?我想跟委員坦白充寬在這個部分裡邊我並還沒有那麼熟悉但是怎麼樣確保這些堅韌的老師他的一個授課而不要疲於奔命而能夠提升這個確保這個學生的這個學習品質我想這是我們在努力的\n\n34\n00:12:11,713 --> 00:12:36,690\n好我想跟您分享這個51所啦63所的私立技專院校裡面63所當中有51所落後於當年度公立學校的知己標準占比高達81%我再講一次這30年間茶葉蛋從一顆五塊漲到15塊漲幅高達200%結果我們現在竟然只給他們調薪3%那我想這可能不是我們想要看到的尤其私校目前又遇到很多財政的這個問題\n\n35\n00:12:37,771 --> 00:13:03,303\n我想這個教育部有說要補助7成私校調整的兼任教師的終點費但是呢體察教育現場的狀況仍有高達6成5以上的私校兼任教師薪資水準低於公校兼任教師顯見目前的補助機制是利有未待想請教一下部長教育部能不能權衡私校財務的情形演繹私校兼任終點費由教育部全額補助至當年度公立大專院校兼任教師終點費的資金標準\n\n36\n00:13:05,776 --> 00:13:29,701\n委員報告我想我們鼓勵這個民間新學那怎麼樣去確保他的這個受教學生的受教品質這是一直我們努力的但是就獎勵民間新學他相當程度他也應該有一定的承諾那政府在這個財政上來看我想我們我們有退稅喔財政上不一定如你想像中的困難\n\n37\n00:13:31,383 --> 00:13:42,175\n好啦不好意思差您的話那您可以講完我想這一個部分確實要全額補助就財政來講它事實上是我們也許可以來評估看它的\n\n38\n00:13:43,622 --> 00:14:00,169\n至少拉起跟鼓勵這個私校然後能夠拉起這一個終點會我想這是我們努力的目標好謝謝我想不只拉起我認為這個調薪的幅度真的太低了我們的這個能不能也拉起現代產業單的價格\n\n39\n00:14:01,510 --> 00:14:28,974\n今天我特地帶來的三粒茶葉蛋要來送給部長和兩位新上任的次長有次長也是我的偶像我想提醒三位教育政策一定要接地氣苦學生所苦苦家長所苦接下來我們還要面對來自AI全球的挑戰教育部雖然以補助方式去鼓勵私立大專院校提升終點費但現況卻還是有很多的落後而且有一個非常重要的點真的是要依法\n\n40\n00:14:29,434 --> 00:14:48,764\n一學校的財務發展情形來同步調升我們剛剛提到了這個兼任教師的薪資被壓抑的這個狀況已經有監察院提出了不符合憲法而且呢也不符合教師待遇條例及專科以上學校兼任教師的聘任辦法等等應該保障教育工作者的生活意志接下來學校要收場\n\n41\n00:14:49,304 --> 00:14:49,424\n謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13578\t15462\t謝謝主席有請教育部鄭英耀部長好請鄭部長\n31158\t47835\t上週質詢文化部的時候我有提到有民眾向我們澄清巴黎文化奧運台灣館的主視覺跟Apple這家公司的emoji表情符號高度相似的當時文化部回答這個案子是沒有向Apple的法律部門申請使用權\n49456\t55118\t結果前幾天我再度又接獲了設計學院的教師陳琴說這個主視覺疑似在未取得國際奧委會授權的情況之下使用了奧運五環的標誌而且可能做了一些有可能違反規定的一些修改\n64742\t79962\t據瞭解這位教師寫信向總統府陳情陳情案件後來被轉到行政院又因為體育是教育部的主管事項所以又被轉到教育部來處理部長想請教一下你知不知道這件事奧運五環有沒有版權\n83059\t97678\t跟委員報告這當然是有的是喔很好我們這個版權是非常重要智慧財產也是非常重要那這個案子呢我們有沒有向國際奧會申請授權使用奧運五環的標誌包含使用以及二創以及再設計有沒有申請\n108004\t130553\t我想跟委員報告我們會請奧委會這一個來跟這一個大會裡面來接觸來接洽這一個版權的一些相關的問題我想我們台灣已經脫離這個制裁地域已經很長的時間了我們現在都非常重視這個設計原創根據現行奧林匹克憲章第一章跟第五章的規定奧林匹克五環是奧林匹克運動會的象徵國際奧會的專用標誌\n133134\t152516\t未經國際奧委會特別許可,任何團體或個人都不得將它用於廣告或者其他商業性的活動。如果不是商業目的,則必須是奧運會的主辦程式,官方贊助商或授權商使用。麻煩進一步了解,我們目前使用這樣的一個設計或再設計或再修改,\n153197\t172008\t有沒有符合規定有沒有符合授權的機制否則呢這個案子對我們的國際形象會有重大的影響也會關乎未來中華奧會跟國際奧會之間未來的合作關係那我想接下來是不是能夠請這個部長還有這個跟文化部一起共同釐清這個授權使用的問題那後續的處理能不能將一週內將書面報告提供為本席\n176255\t186836\t我想謝謝委員的提醒,確實只有奧委會,台灣的奧委會可以使用這一個五個圈環,那我們會跟文化部來進一步來瞭解\n188758\t217271\t我想好的設計大家都歡迎但是在使用上面要符合文化以及符合制裁權的規範否則的話很可能會給大家帶來一些麻煩這都不是我們想看到接下來想請教一下部長有關數位教育的問題這幾天引起的話題蔡前總統在任期倒數的期間在臉書細數了8年內執政的成果結果在教育面向卻只提到了兩個大重點斑斑有冷氣深深用平板當然這是很好的政策但是這些主要都是花錢\n218211\t233622\t花錢可能就有當然執行過程有很耗心力但是我想應該不會只有這個吧那引發了各界熱議對於數位教育的政策硬體資源的部件還有我們的軟體的增進或者甚至AI的導入到底是什麼\n234002\t234022\t獲得獎項\n257123\t277672\t這次提出我也非常期待那我想接下來其實還不只是這些McKinsey的全球研究院也指出有很多的教師的時間大量的浪費在可以自動化的任務上比如說批改作業規劃課程等等有沒有考慮能夠使用AI來協助教師減輕行政工作\n278172\t287173\t甚至來協助第一線的教師逐步採用AI工具來協助他們的一些日常的行政事務請教一下部長教育部目前的立場是什麼\n289003\t307856\t謝謝委員的一個關心確實我們現在目前跟國科會有發展這個EDE這個TECH那我想在這個屬於我們自己研發出來的未來他就如委員所說的他一定會是希望能夠用來減緩我們疏解我們第一線上的許多的行政\n308977\t323671\t我想這個部分也是希望未來了解一下就是自研跟使用成熟的這些技術或者廠商的這些服務去finetune或再修改或再設計或再製作到底哪個好哪個不好我們之後未來再一起來研議那當然我想有這樣的精神還是很好的事\n326514\t353549\t另外也提醒教育部教學現場的教跟學也是密不可分AI的使用指引目前比較是以老師來做教學的規範但是學生到底要怎麼樣做AI的使用原則其實目前是相對比較不清楚的請教一下部長教育部是否研議推出高中以下學生版的AI使用指引讓學生未來無論是在學習或者競賽我們之前有學生很會用AI結果參加比賽被記的小過\n354890\t368261\t那甚至是未來入學考試上到底能不能用AI來重新修整他的文字內容能不能提出用AI化的話他提出了以後有沒有要做標注有沒有明確的AI使用原則可以運行教育部會不會提出呢在哪裡指引在哪裡學生用的喔\n385339\t410695\t我們現在是國會殿堂喔最近我們拜託跟委員報告就是我們的學生的部分我們在3.0的地方會特別在所以就是10月嘛還沒推出啦所以未來麻煩注意一下謝謝這真的是要快一點因為馬上升學季嘛那本席再次強調啦不光是給老師的教學指引學生真的也需要使用指引請教育部對此進行研議現在是五月份嘛\n411115\t436117\t我是希望能夠快一點啦能不能3月至少有一個初步的結果三個月內啦否則的話學生到底能不能用AI怎麼用AI他可不可以用它來做工作能不能做報告要不要標注能不能拿來升學我們都不知道那再來請教一下教育部長目前大學入學的備審資料及學位論文的撰寫有沒有規範有沒有明確的規範到底能不能用深層式的AI規範如何\n441101\t446303\t這題應該很簡單阿馬上要那個學位考試了嘛大家能不能用AI寫論文阿這個當然是不行的確定嗎目前沒有規範但是有一些部長要確認喔這個這個講出來很嚴重喔跟委員報告大概用CHAT GPT去協助去許多資料的收集或者有一些這一個我請他幫我優化我的論文段落可不可以阿這當然是可以的\n469792\t473915\t教育部有沒有推出一個完整的說明在官網還是在哪裡還是我們就是要等10月一切都等10月是這樣嗎跟委員報告\n485021\t509375\t我都有一個AI的工作圈我們會把...盡快研議一下為什麼現在國際已經非常多在討論這個事情昨天出來的新聞Computer Science裡面的論文大概有17.5%都有AI參與的這個痕跡而且他未必有標注那到底我們的規範是什麼到底是一個論文的合理使用生成式的AI比例是多少\n509855\t534489\t到底是30% 50% 60%還是90%教育部應該要來明確規範而且到底有沒有要標示像以前我們在網路上查資料以後都要放到reference最早期的時候沒有規定大家不一定放但是現在有了規定大家都要放可是AI的指引是完全沒有的我們沒有任何的規範還是APA格式有修正這個教育部能不能把這個相關的細節呢早一點公開讓大家知道\n535818\t561601\t謝謝委員提醒我想涉及到這一個學術倫理的東西我們要這個加速來做我們真的不希望過了幾十年之後大家又忽然回來找說誰誰誰的論文是AI寫的那結果影響到這些人的這個選舉或被選舉權這都不是我們想要看到的那也提醒一下部長目前教育部沒有給予這個各大學官方認定的AI生成比對的工具這造成什麼問題呢第一線教室要用肉眼去審查\n562742\t578238\t學生是不是有使用生成式AI的痕跡同時學生很可能也沒有相關的規範來告訴他能用不能用使得可能會違背了所謂的平權的精神家境比較好的學生用了付費版的GPT或者付費版的AI\n578598\t603977\t他的東西做出來特別漂亮特別好看特別閱讀起來特別流暢結果呢免費版的東西做的就比較爛甚至現在開始有這種GPT的apps結果呢只有付費版的學生可以使用請教一下部長教育部有沒有可能迅速的提出AI生成比對工具的認證清單來供各大專院校參考使用讓教師擺脫用肉眼來看到底誰是人誰是AI能不能做到這件事\n605100\t627471\t我們會透過這個工作群裡邊來請大專業校裡邊我們這個委員來看怎麼樣從專業裡邊更清楚來做一些規範我想AI真的是一直在變我想希望真的是希望教育部接下來有一個整個非常棒的團隊都希望能夠又是AI內閣我們趕快來做一些指引讓大家有跡可循\n628491\t648176\t再來我也要來談這個高教教學品質的擔憂因為我過去也在學校裡面根據監察院110年的調查109年全國大專院校的兼任教師超過4萬人近20年的漲幅高達56%有一個超級可怕的數據目前兼任跟專人的教師逼近1比1\n648996\t674310\t而且過半以上的私立大專業院校兼任教師比重高達五成以上甚至有私立大專業院校有高達八成以上當然你從好處看你說我們有很多這個海納百川有很多的人才但是現在的招生人數逐年下降光112年度就有9800多位教師未獲續聘其中本來沒有本職沒有其他的工作只靠中典費維生的人就高達20%\n675831\t686559\t教育部號稱今年幫公立大學兼任師資調漲終點費30年來第一次調整我們來看一下日間從每小時教授等級995變1035我們來看最多的講師其實就是兼任講師725塊調到755塊增加30塊錢\n695265\t707215\t我們的茶葉蛋已經漲了200%結果這些人的時薪竟然只調3%不到部長您認為這樣的薪資調服三顆茶葉蛋有助於提升大學的教學品質嗎?您知道這件事嗎?\n711176\t731313\t您覺得這樣合理嗎?我想跟委員坦白充寬在這個部分裡邊我並還沒有那麼熟悉但是怎麼樣確保這些堅韌的老師他的一個授課而不要疲於奔命而能夠提升這個確保這個學生的這個學習品質我想這是我們在努力的\n731713\t756690\t好我想跟您分享這個51所啦63所的私立技專院校裡面63所當中有51所落後於當年度公立學校的知己標準占比高達81%我再講一次這30年間茶葉蛋從一顆五塊漲到15塊漲幅高達200%結果我們現在竟然只給他們調薪3%那我想這可能不是我們想要看到的尤其私校目前又遇到很多財政的這個問題\n757771\t783303\t我想這個教育部有說要補助7成私校調整的兼任教師的終點費但是呢體察教育現場的狀況仍有高達6成5以上的私校兼任教師薪資水準低於公校兼任教師顯見目前的補助機制是利有未待想請教一下部長教育部能不能權衡私校財務的情形演繹私校兼任終點費由教育部全額補助至當年度公立大專院校兼任教師終點費的資金標準\n785776\t809701\t委員報告我想我們鼓勵這個民間新學那怎麼樣去確保他的這個受教學生的受教品質這是一直我們努力的但是就獎勵民間新學他相當程度他也應該有一定的承諾那政府在這個財政上來看我想我們我們有退稅喔財政上不一定如你想像中的困難\n811383\t822175\t好啦不好意思差您的話那您可以講完我想這一個部分確實要全額補助就財政來講它事實上是我們也許可以來評估看它的\n823622\t840169\t至少拉起跟鼓勵這個私校然後能夠拉起這一個終點會我想這是我們努力的目標好 謝謝我想不只拉起我認為這個調薪的幅度真的太低了我們的這個能不能也拉起現代產業單的價格\n841510\t868974\t今天我特地帶來的三粒茶葉蛋要來送給部長和兩位新上任的次長有次長也是我的偶像我想提醒三位教育政策一定要接地氣苦學生所苦苦家長所苦接下來我們還要面對來自AI全球的挑戰教育部雖然以補助方式去鼓勵私立大專院校提升終點費但現況卻還是有很多的落後而且有一個非常重要的點真的是要依法\n869434\t888764\t一學校的財務發展情形來同步調升我們剛剛提到了這個兼任教師的薪資被壓抑的這個狀況已經有監察院提出了不符合憲法而且呢也不符合教師待遇條例及專科以上學校兼任教師的聘任辦法等等應該保障教育工作者的生活意志接下來學校要收場\n889304\t889424\t謝謝主席\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請教育部鄭英耀部長好請鄭部長\n上週質詢文化部的時候我有提到有民眾向我們澄清巴黎文化奧運台灣館的主視覺跟Apple這家公司的emoji表情符號高度相似的當時文化部回答這個案子是沒有向Apple的法律部門申請使用權\n結果前幾天我再度又接獲了設計學院的教師陳琴說這個主視覺疑似在未取得國際奧委會授權的情況之下使用了奧運五環的標誌而且可能做了一些有可能違反規定的一些修改\n據瞭解這位教師寫信向總統府陳情陳情案件後來被轉到行政院又因為體育是教育部的主管事項所以又被轉到教育部來處理部長想請教一下你知不知道這件事奧運五環有沒有版權\n跟委員報告這當然是有的是喔很好我們這個版權是非常重要智慧財產也是非常重要那這個案子呢我們有沒有向國際奧會申請授權使用奧運五環的標誌包含使用以及二創以及再設計有沒有申請\n我想跟委員報告我們會請奧委會這一個來跟這一個大會裡面來接觸來接洽這一個版權的一些相關的問題我想我們台灣已經脫離這個制裁地域已經很長的時間了我們現在都非常重視這個設計原創根據現行奧林匹克憲章第一章跟第五章的規定奧林匹克五環是奧林匹克運動會的象徵國際奧會的專用標誌\n未經國際奧委會特別許可,任何團體或個人都不得將它用於廣告或者其他商業性的活動。如果不是商業目的,則必須是奧運會的主辦程式,官方贊助商或授權商使用。麻煩進一步了解,我們目前使用這樣的一個設計或再設計或再修改,\n有沒有符合規定有沒有符合授權的機制否則呢這個案子對我們的國際形象會有重大的影響也會關乎未來中華奧會跟國際奧會之間未來的合作關係那我想接下來是不是能夠請這個部長還有這個跟文化部一起共同釐清這個授權使用的問題那後續的處理能不能將一週內將書面報告提供為本席\n我想謝謝委員的提醒,確實只有奧委會,台灣的奧委會可以使用這一個五個圈環,那我們會跟文化部來進一步來瞭解\n我想好的設計大家都歡迎但是在使用上面要符合文化以及符合制裁權的規範否則的話很可能會給大家帶來一些麻煩這都不是我們想看到接下來想請教一下部長有關數位教育的問題這幾天引起的話題蔡前總統在任期倒數的期間在臉書細數了8年內執政的成果結果在教育面向卻只提到了兩個大重點斑斑有冷氣深深用平板當然這是很好的政策但是這些主要都是花錢\n花錢可能就有當然執行過程有很耗心力但是我想應該不會只有這個吧那引發了各界熱議對於數位教育的政策硬體資源的部件還有我們的軟體的增進或者甚至AI的導入到底是什麼\n獲得獎項\n這次提出我也非常期待那我想接下來其實還不只是這些McKinsey的全球研究院也指出有很多的教師的時間大量的浪費在可以自動化的任務上比如說批改作業規劃課程等等有沒有考慮能夠使用AI來協助教師減輕行政工作\n甚至來協助第一線的教師逐步採用AI工具來協助他們的一些日常的行政事務請教一下部長教育部目前的立場是什麼\n謝謝委員的一個關心確實我們現在目前跟國科會有發展這個EDE這個TECH那我想在這個屬於我們自己研發出來的未來他就如委員所說的他一定會是希望能夠用來減緩我們疏解我們第一線上的許多的行政\n我想這個部分也是希望未來了解一下就是自研跟使用成熟的這些技術或者廠商的這些服務去finetune或再修改或再設計或再製作到底哪個好哪個不好我們之後未來再一起來研議那當然我想有這樣的精神還是很好的事\n另外也提醒教育部教學現場的教跟學也是密不可分AI的使用指引目前比較是以老師來做教學的規範但是學生到底要怎麼樣做AI的使用原則其實目前是相對比較不清楚的請教一下部長教育部是否研議推出高中以下學生版的AI使用指引讓學生未來無論是在學習或者競賽我們之前有學生很會用AI結果參加比賽被記的小過\n那甚至是未來入學考試上到底能不能用AI來重新修整他的文字內容能不能提出用AI化的話他提出了以後有沒有要做標注有沒有明確的AI使用原則可以運行教育部會不會提出呢在哪裡指引在哪裡學生用的喔\n我們現在是國會殿堂喔最近我們拜託跟委員報告就是我們的學生的部分我們在3.0的地方會特別在所以就是10月嘛還沒推出啦所以未來麻煩注意一下謝謝這真的是要快一點因為馬上升學季嘛那本席再次強調啦不光是給老師的教學指引學生真的也需要使用指引請教育部對此進行研議現在是五月份嘛\n我是希望能夠快一點啦能不能3月至少有一個初步的結果三個月內啦否則的話學生到底能不能用AI怎麼用AI他可不可以用它來做工作能不能做報告要不要標注能不能拿來升學我們都不知道那再來請教一下教育部長目前大學入學的備審資料及學位論文的撰寫有沒有規範有沒有明確的規範到底能不能用深層式的AI規範如何\n這題應該很簡單阿馬上要那個學位考試了嘛大家能不能用AI寫論文阿這個當然是不行的確定嗎目前沒有規範但是有一些部長要確認喔這個這個講出來很嚴重喔跟委員報告大概用CHAT GPT去協助去許多資料的收集或者有一些這一個我請他幫我優化我的論文段落可不可以阿這當然是可以的\n教育部有沒有推出一個完整的說明在官網還是在哪裡還是我們就是要等10月一切都等10月是這樣嗎跟委員報告\n我都有一個AI的工作圈我們會把...盡快研議一下為什麼現在國際已經非常多在討論這個事情昨天出來的新聞Computer Science裡面的論文大概有17.5%都有AI參與的這個痕跡而且他未必有標注那到底我們的規範是什麼到底是一個論文的合理使用生成式的AI比例是多少\n到底是30% 50% 60%還是90%教育部應該要來明確規範而且到底有沒有要標示像以前我們在網路上查資料以後都要放到reference最早期的時候沒有規定大家不一定放但是現在有了規定大家都要放可是AI的指引是完全沒有的我們沒有任何的規範還是APA格式有修正這個教育部能不能把這個相關的細節呢早一點公開讓大家知道\n謝謝委員提醒我想涉及到這一個學術倫理的東西我們要這個加速來做我們真的不希望過了幾十年之後大家又忽然回來找說誰誰誰的論文是AI寫的那結果影響到這些人的這個選舉或被選舉權這都不是我們想要看到的那也提醒一下部長目前教育部沒有給予這個各大學官方認定的AI生成比對的工具這造成什麼問題呢第一線教室要用肉眼去審查\n學生是不是有使用生成式AI的痕跡同時學生很可能也沒有相關的規範來告訴他能用不能用使得可能會違背了所謂的平權的精神家境比較好的學生用了付費版的GPT或者付費版的AI\n他的東西做出來特別漂亮特別好看特別閱讀起來特別流暢結果呢免費版的東西做的就比較爛甚至現在開始有這種GPT的apps結果呢只有付費版的學生可以使用請教一下部長教育部有沒有可能迅速的提出AI生成比對工具的認證清單來供各大專院校參考使用讓教師擺脫用肉眼來看到底誰是人誰是AI能不能做到這件事\n我們會透過這個工作群裡邊來請大專業校裡邊我們這個委員來看怎麼樣從專業裡邊更清楚來做一些規範我想AI真的是一直在變我想希望真的是希望教育部接下來有一個整個非常棒的團隊都希望能夠又是AI內閣我們趕快來做一些指引讓大家有跡可循\n再來我也要來談這個高教教學品質的擔憂因為我過去也在學校裡面根據監察院110年的調查109年全國大專院校的兼任教師超過4萬人近20年的漲幅高達56%有一個超級可怕的數據目前兼任跟專人的教師逼近1比1\n而且過半以上的私立大專業院校兼任教師比重高達五成以上甚至有私立大專業院校有高達八成以上當然你從好處看你說我們有很多這個海納百川有很多的人才但是現在的招生人數逐年下降光112年度就有9800多位教師未獲續聘其中本來沒有本職沒有其他的工作只靠中典費維生的人就高達20%\n教育部號稱今年幫公立大學兼任師資調漲終點費30年來第一次調整我們來看一下日間從每小時教授等級995變1035我們來看最多的講師其實就是兼任講師725塊調到755塊增加30塊錢\n我們的茶葉蛋已經漲了200%結果這些人的時薪竟然只調3%不到部長您認為這樣的薪資調服三顆茶葉蛋有助於提升大學的教學品質嗎?您知道這件事嗎?\n您覺得這樣合理嗎?我想跟委員坦白充寬在這個部分裡邊我並還沒有那麼熟悉但是怎麼樣確保這些堅韌的老師他的一個授課而不要疲於奔命而能夠提升這個確保這個學生的這個學習品質我想這是我們在努力的\n好我想跟您分享這個51所啦63所的私立技專院校裡面63所當中有51所落後於當年度公立學校的知己標準占比高達81%我再講一次這30年間茶葉蛋從一顆五塊漲到15塊漲幅高達200%結果我們現在竟然只給他們調薪3%那我想這可能不是我們想要看到的尤其私校目前又遇到很多財政的這個問題\n我想這個教育部有說要補助7成私校調整的兼任教師的終點費但是呢體察教育現場的狀況仍有高達6成5以上的私校兼任教師薪資水準低於公校兼任教師顯見目前的補助機制是利有未待想請教一下部長教育部能不能權衡私校財務的情形演繹私校兼任終點費由教育部全額補助至當年度公立大專院校兼任教師終點費的資金標準\n委員報告我想我們鼓勵這個民間新學那怎麼樣去確保他的這個受教學生的受教品質這是一直我們努力的但是就獎勵民間新學他相當程度他也應該有一定的承諾那政府在這個財政上來看我想我們我們有退稅喔財政上不一定如你想像中的困難\n好啦不好意思差您的話那您可以講完我想這一個部分確實要全額補助就財政來講它事實上是我們也許可以來評估看它的\n至少拉起跟鼓勵這個私校然後能夠拉起這一個終點會我想這是我們努力的目標好 謝謝我想不只拉起我認為這個調薪的幅度真的太低了我們的這個能不能也拉起現代產業單的價格\n今天我特地帶來的三粒茶葉蛋要來送給部長和兩位新上任的次長有次長也是我的偶像我想提醒三位教育政策一定要接地氣苦學生所苦苦家長所苦接下來我們還要面對來自AI全球的挑戰教育部雖然以補助方式去鼓勵私立大專院校提升終點費但現況卻還是有很多的落後而且有一個非常重要的點真的是要依法\n一學校的財務發展情形來同步調升我們剛剛提到了這個兼任教師的薪資被壓抑的這個狀況已經有監察院提出了不符合憲法而且呢也不符合教師待遇條例及專科以上學校兼任教師的聘任辦法等等應該保障教育工作者的生活意志接下來學校要收場\n謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:13.578 --> 00:15.462\n謝謝主席有請教育部鄭英耀部長好請鄭部長\n\n00:31.158 --> 00:47.835\n上週質詢文化部的時候我有提到有民眾向我們澄清巴黎文化奧運台灣館的主視覺跟Apple這家公司的emoji表情符號高度相似的當時文化部回答這個案子是沒有向Apple的法律部門申請使用權\n\n00:49.456 --> 00:55.118\n結果前幾天我再度又接獲了設計學院的教師陳琴說這個主視覺疑似在未取得國際奧委會授權的情況之下使用了奧運五環的標誌而且可能做了一些有可能違反規定的一些修改\n\n01:04.742 --> 01:19.962\n據瞭解這位教師寫信向總統府陳情陳情案件後來被轉到行政院又因為體育是教育部的主管事項所以又被轉到教育部來處理部長想請教一下你知不知道這件事奧運五環有沒有版權\n\n01:23.059 --> 01:37.678\n跟委員報告這當然是有的是喔很好我們這個版權是非常重要智慧財產也是非常重要那這個案子呢我們有沒有向國際奧會申請授權使用奧運五環的標誌包含使用以及二創以及再設計有沒有申請\n\n01:48.004 --> 02:10.553\n我想跟委員報告我們會請奧委會這一個來跟這一個大會裡面來接觸來接洽這一個版權的一些相關的問題我想我們台灣已經脫離這個制裁地域已經很長的時間了我們現在都非常重視這個設計原創根據現行奧林匹克憲章第一章跟第五章的規定奧林匹克五環是奧林匹克運動會的象徵國際奧會的專用標誌\n\n02:13.134 --> 02:32.516\n未經國際奧委會特別許可,任何團體或個人都不得將它用於廣告或者其他商業性的活動。如果不是商業目的,則必須是奧運會的主辦程式,官方贊助商或授權商使用。麻煩進一步了解,我們目前使用這樣的一個設計或再設計或再修改,\n\n02:33.197 --> 02:52.008\n有沒有符合規定有沒有符合授權的機制否則呢這個案子對我們的國際形象會有重大的影響也會關乎未來中華奧會跟國際奧會之間未來的合作關係那我想接下來是不是能夠請這個部長還有這個跟文化部一起共同釐清這個授權使用的問題那後續的處理能不能將一週內將書面報告提供為本席\n\n02:56.255 --> 03:06.836\n我想謝謝委員的提醒,確實只有奧委會,台灣的奧委會可以使用這一個五個圈環,那我們會跟文化部來進一步來瞭解\n\n03:08.758 --> 03:37.271\n我想好的設計大家都歡迎但是在使用上面要符合文化以及符合制裁權的規範否則的話很可能會給大家帶來一些麻煩這都不是我們想看到接下來想請教一下部長有關數位教育的問題這幾天引起的話題蔡前總統在任期倒數的期間在臉書細數了8年內執政的成果結果在教育面向卻只提到了兩個大重點斑斑有冷氣深深用平板當然這是很好的政策但是這些主要都是花錢\n\n03:38.211 --> 03:53.622\n花錢可能就有當然執行過程有很耗心力但是我想應該不會只有這個吧那引發了各界熱議對於數位教育的政策硬體資源的部件還有我們的軟體的增進或者甚至AI的導入到底是什麼\n\n03:54.002 --> 03:54.022\n獲得獎項\n\n04:17.123 --> 04:37.672\n這次提出我也非常期待那我想接下來其實還不只是這些McKinsey的全球研究院也指出有很多的教師的時間大量的浪費在可以自動化的任務上比如說批改作業規劃課程等等有沒有考慮能夠使用AI來協助教師減輕行政工作\n\n04:38.172 --> 04:47.173\n甚至來協助第一線的教師逐步採用AI工具來協助他們的一些日常的行政事務請教一下部長教育部目前的立場是什麼\n\n04:49.003 --> 05:07.856\n謝謝委員的一個關心確實我們現在目前跟國科會有發展這個EDE這個TECH那我想在這個屬於我們自己研發出來的未來他就如委員所說的他一定會是希望能夠用來減緩我們疏解我們第一線上的許多的行政\n\n05:08.977 --> 05:23.671\n我想這個部分也是希望未來了解一下就是自研跟使用成熟的這些技術或者廠商的這些服務去finetune或再修改或再設計或再製作到底哪個好哪個不好我們之後未來再一起來研議那當然我想有這樣的精神還是很好的事\n\n05:26.514 --> 05:53.549\n另外也提醒教育部教學現場的教跟學也是密不可分AI的使用指引目前比較是以老師來做教學的規範但是學生到底要怎麼樣做AI的使用原則其實目前是相對比較不清楚的請教一下部長教育部是否研議推出高中以下學生版的AI使用指引讓學生未來無論是在學習或者競賽我們之前有學生很會用AI結果參加比賽被記的小過\n\n05:54.890 --> 06:08.261\n那甚至是未來入學考試上到底能不能用AI來重新修整他的文字內容能不能提出用AI化的話他提出了以後有沒有要做標注有沒有明確的AI使用原則可以運行教育部會不會提出呢在哪裡指引在哪裡學生用的喔\n\n06:25.339 --> 06:50.695\n我們現在是國會殿堂喔最近我們拜託跟委員報告就是我們的學生的部分我們在3.0的地方會特別在所以就是10月嘛還沒推出啦所以未來麻煩注意一下謝謝這真的是要快一點因為馬上升學季嘛那本席再次強調啦不光是給老師的教學指引學生真的也需要使用指引請教育部對此進行研議現在是五月份嘛\n\n06:51.115 --> 07:16.117\n我是希望能夠快一點啦能不能3月至少有一個初步的結果三個月內啦否則的話學生到底能不能用AI怎麼用AI他可不可以用它來做工作能不能做報告要不要標注能不能拿來升學我們都不知道那再來請教一下教育部長目前大學入學的備審資料及學位論文的撰寫有沒有規範有沒有明確的規範到底能不能用深層式的AI規範如何\n\n07:21.101 --> 07:26.303\n這題應該很簡單阿馬上要那個學位考試了嘛大家能不能用AI寫論文阿這個當然是不行的確定嗎目前沒有規範但是有一些部長要確認喔這個這個講出來很嚴重喔跟委員報告大概用CHATGPT去協助去許多資料的收集或者有一些這一個我請他幫我優化我的論文段落可不可以阿這當然是可以的\n\n07:49.792 --> 07:53.915\n教育部有沒有推出一個完整的說明在官網還是在哪裡還是我們就是要等10月一切都等10月是這樣嗎跟委員報告\n\n08:05.021 --> 08:29.375\n我都有一個AI的工作圈我們會把...盡快研議一下為什麼現在國際已經非常多在討論這個事情昨天出來的新聞ComputerScience裡面的論文大概有17.5%都有AI參與的這個痕跡而且他未必有標注那到底我們的規範是什麼到底是一個論文的合理使用生成式的AI比例是多少\n\n08:29.855 --> 08:54.489\n到底是30%50%60%還是90%教育部應該要來明確規範而且到底有沒有要標示像以前我們在網路上查資料以後都要放到reference最早期的時候沒有規定大家不一定放但是現在有了規定大家都要放可是AI的指引是完全沒有的我們沒有任何的規範還是APA格式有修正這個教育部能不能把這個相關的細節呢早一點公開讓大家知道\n\n08:55.818 --> 09:21.601\n謝謝委員提醒我想涉及到這一個學術倫理的東西我們要這個加速來做我們真的不希望過了幾十年之後大家又忽然回來找說誰誰誰的論文是AI寫的那結果影響到這些人的這個選舉或被選舉權這都不是我們想要看到的那也提醒一下部長目前教育部沒有給予這個各大學官方認定的AI生成比對的工具這造成什麼問題呢第一線教室要用肉眼去審查\n\n09:22.742 --> 09:38.238\n學生是不是有使用生成式AI的痕跡同時學生很可能也沒有相關的規範來告訴他能用不能用使得可能會違背了所謂的平權的精神家境比較好的學生用了付費版的GPT或者付費版的AI\n\n09:38.598 --> 10:03.977\n他的東西做出來特別漂亮特別好看特別閱讀起來特別流暢結果呢免費版的東西做的就比較爛甚至現在開始有這種GPT的apps結果呢只有付費版的學生可以使用請教一下部長教育部有沒有可能迅速的提出AI生成比對工具的認證清單來供各大專院校參考使用讓教師擺脫用肉眼來看到底誰是人誰是AI能不能做到這件事\n\n10:05.100 --> 10:27.471\n我們會透過這個工作群裡邊來請大專業校裡邊我們這個委員來看怎麼樣從專業裡邊更清楚來做一些規範我想AI真的是一直在變我想希望真的是希望教育部接下來有一個整個非常棒的團隊都希望能夠又是AI內閣我們趕快來做一些指引讓大家有跡可循\n\n10:28.491 --> 10:48.176\n再來我也要來談這個高教教學品質的擔憂因為我過去也在學校裡面根據監察院110年的調查109年全國大專院校的兼任教師超過4萬人近20年的漲幅高達56%有一個超級可怕的數據目前兼任跟專人的教師逼近1比1\n\n10:48.996 --> 11:14.310\n而且過半以上的私立大專業院校兼任教師比重高達五成以上甚至有私立大專業院校有高達八成以上當然你從好處看你說我們有很多這個海納百川有很多的人才但是現在的招生人數逐年下降光112年度就有9800多位教師未獲續聘其中本來沒有本職沒有其他的工作只靠中典費維生的人就高達20%\n\n11:15.831 --> 11:26.559\n教育部號稱今年幫公立大學兼任師資調漲終點費30年來第一次調整我們來看一下日間從每小時教授等級995變1035我們來看最多的講師其實就是兼任講師725塊調到755塊增加30塊錢\n\n11:35.265 --> 11:47.215\n我們的茶葉蛋已經漲了200%結果這些人的時薪竟然只調3%不到部長您認為這樣的薪資調服三顆茶葉蛋有助於提升大學的教學品質嗎?您知道這件事嗎?\n\n11:51.176 --> 12:11.313\n您覺得這樣合理嗎?我想跟委員坦白充寬在這個部分裡邊我並還沒有那麼熟悉但是怎麼樣確保這些堅韌的老師他的一個授課而不要疲於奔命而能夠提升這個確保這個學生的這個學習品質我想這是我們在努力的\n\n12:11.713 --> 12:36.690\n好我想跟您分享這個51所啦63所的私立技專院校裡面63所當中有51所落後於當年度公立學校的知己標準占比高達81%我再講一次這30年間茶葉蛋從一顆五塊漲到15塊漲幅高達200%結果我們現在竟然只給他們調薪3%那我想這可能不是我們想要看到的尤其私校目前又遇到很多財政的這個問題\n\n12:37.771 --> 13:03.303\n我想這個教育部有說要補助7成私校調整的兼任教師的終點費但是呢體察教育現場的狀況仍有高達6成5以上的私校兼任教師薪資水準低於公校兼任教師顯見目前的補助機制是利有未待想請教一下部長教育部能不能權衡私校財務的情形演繹私校兼任終點費由教育部全額補助至當年度公立大專院校兼任教師終點費的資金標準\n\n13:05.776 --> 13:29.701\n委員報告我想我們鼓勵這個民間新學那怎麼樣去確保他的這個受教學生的受教品質這是一直我們努力的但是就獎勵民間新學他相當程度他也應該有一定的承諾那政府在這個財政上來看我想我們我們有退稅喔財政上不一定如你想像中的困難\n\n13:31.383 --> 13:42.175\n好啦不好意思差您的話那您可以講完我想這一個部分確實要全額補助就財政來講它事實上是我們也許可以來評估看它的\n\n13:43.622 --> 14:00.169\n至少拉起跟鼓勵這個私校然後能夠拉起這一個終點會我想這是我們努力的目標好謝謝我想不只拉起我認為這個調薪的幅度真的太低了我們的這個能不能也拉起現代產業單的價格\n\n14:01.510 --> 14:28.974\n今天我特地帶來的三粒茶葉蛋要來送給部長和兩位新上任的次長有次長也是我的偶像我想提醒三位教育政策一定要接地氣苦學生所苦苦家長所苦接下來我們還要面對來自AI全球的挑戰教育部雖然以補助方式去鼓勵私立大專院校提升終點費但現況卻還是有很多的落後而且有一個非常重要的點真的是要依法\n\n14:29.434 --> 14:48.764\n一學校的財務發展情形來同步調升我們剛剛提到了這個兼任教師的薪資被壓抑的這個狀況已經有監察院提出了不符合憲法而且呢也不符合教師待遇條例及專科以上學校兼任教師的聘任辦法等等應該保障教育工作者的生活意志接下來學校要收場\n\n14:49.304 --> 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