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強 化 尤 其 在 中 南 部 在 鄉 下 地 方 來 去 解 決 大 家 對 於 這 個 打 詐 或 是 防 詐 騙 的 這 個 知 識 的 宣 導\n\n5\n00:01:50,014 --> 00:02:18,942\n我 們 那 個 就 是 會 有 一 些 宣 導 的 一 些 服 務 跟 團 隊 然 後 再 利 用 這 個 地 方 比 如 說 像 D O C 這 樣 去 做 一 些 教 訓 練 那 當 然 我 也 講 過 就 是 說 我 們 會 把 一 些 詐 騙 的 看 到 詐 騙 拍 成 端 影 或 是 文 字 再 利 用 這 個 社 群 平 台 或 是 他 去 做 宣 導 那 當 然 這 個 鄉 下 的 這 個 下 鄉 的 很 多 工 作 我 們 已 經 在 做 是 那 個 我 們 是 署 長 這 樣 子 好 了 我 這 就 是 提 一 下 這 個 部 分\n\n6\n00:02:20,782 --> 00:02:44,531\n我 也 不 追 這 個 預 算 變 略 跟 明 年 度 的 這 個 預 算 大 概 目 前 的 這 個 成 效 跟 執 行 率 那 我 直 接 就 是 今 天 就 是 第 一 次 嘛 部 長 第 一 次 質 詢 嘛 那 還 是 其 像 是 期 許 啊 這 個 三 支 線 的 這 個 包 括 打 債 的 部 分 能 夠 有 所 成 效 那 也 知 道 您 跟 國 發 會 主 委 劉 靜 清 交 換 意 見 完 共 同 要 籌 設 這 個 A I 的 生 態 園 區 那 在 南 北\n\n7\n00:02:45,351 --> 00:03:00,782\n還 各 設 一 座 園 區 力 拼 數 位 經 濟 產 值 兩 年 內 突 破 一 兆 的 目 標 這 是 好 事 一 件 但 是 本 席 想 要 請 教 一 下 目 前 這 兩 個 地 方 預 計 這 個 園 區 建 設 在 哪 裡 那 個 我 還 沒 有 這 跟 劉 主 委 在 我 們 要 進 一 步 討 論 那 剛 剛 有 講 說 其 實 有 很 多\n\n8\n00:03:01,502 --> 00:03:27,048\n那 個 很 多 地 方 其 實 都 還 蠻 合 適 說 我 們 盡 量 跟 地 方 政 府 配 合 不 過 現 在 就 是 這 樣 就 是 說 有 個 基 本 原 則 我 跟 劉 主 委 談 的 是 有 個 共 識 就 我 們 希 望 這 個 園 區 一 開 始 是 兩 個 但 以 後 可 能 不 只 兩 個 但 是 這 兩 個 一 開 始 應 該 是 要 離 高 鐵 站 很 近 就 是 說 大 家 在 彼 此 的 這 個 這 個 交 通 都 可 以 很 快 所 以 應 該 會 在 高 鐵 的 附 近 那 至 於 說 在 哪 裡 我 想 我 們 後 面 會 再 做 更 進 一 步 說 明\n\n9\n00:03:28,709 --> 00:03:43,142\n謝 謝 部 長 , 因 為 我 聽 到 一 個 聲 音 , 變 成 這 樣 , 變 成 南 投 就 比 較 吃 虧 了 。 對 啊 , 南 投 就 不 高 鐵 站 了 。 南 投 我 們 就 是 剛 剛 講 , 因 為 這 個 園 區 是 上 中 下 游 都 有 啦 。\n\n10\n00:03:43,522 --> 00:04:00,699\n所 以 不 會 說 只 有 在 那 個 地 方 就 是 說 我 們 上 游 可 能 在 所 謂 的 這 個 辦 公 室 但 是 中 游 跟 下 游 都 是 遍 佈 全 省 所 以 為 什 麼 說 要 交 通 快 就 是 說 我 們 期 望 就 是 這 個 A I 的 成 果 能 夠 推 動 到 第 一 個 國 內 第 一 個 到 國 外 所 以 南 投 一 定 是 我 們 一 定 會 有 服 務 在 那 邊 沒 問 題\n\n11\n00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:27,587\n因 為 像 賴 清 德 總 統 他 選 前 提 出 逃 出 苗 大 溪 谷 計 畫 其 實 現 在 目 前 許 多 縣 市 都 遇 到 土 地 不 夠 的 問 題 跟 聲 音 那 所 以 在 這 裡 也 特 別 也 跟 部 長 做 邀 請 就 是 中 部 地 區 其 實 是 急 劇 開 發 潛 力 加 上 其 實 在 中 部 來 進 行 這 個 A I 生 態 園 區 的 設 置 不 僅 是 南 投 受 惠 啦 整 體 中 張 投 受 惠 相 信 它 帶 動 的 外 溢 效 果 是 包 括 連 北 部 南 部 我 相 信 都 會 受 惠\n\n12\n00:04:28,867 --> 00:04:58,113\n這 個 同 意 我 們 會 再 去 再 去 評 估 再 去 再 討 論 好 謝 謝 那 接 著 是 也 要 再 接 著 請 教 因 為 剛 才 許 多 的 委 員 都 有 詢 問 到 一 些 相 關 問 題 但 是 有 幾 個 部 分 我 也 想 要 接 著 就 教 像 年 輕 人 現 在 愛 用 抖 音 啊 那 進 行 美 國 要 求 短 影 音 平 臺 T i k T o k 強 制 脫 離 母 公 司 自 己 的 跳 動 若 不 遵 守 就 要 禁 止 T i k T o k 在 美 國 音 樂 城 市 的 平 臺 上 架 那 想 要 就 教 部 長 在 臺 灣 會 不 會 也 會 禁 用 到 T i k T o k\n\n13\n00:04:58,972 --> 00:05:18,608\n我 們 實 際 上 我 們 第 一 個 就 因 為 這 個 T i k T o k 的 危 害 對 全 世 界 民 主 國 家 都 一 樣 那 美 國 已 經 在 做 剛 講 就 是 要 求 他 們 在 那 個 當 地 要 落 地 嘛 那 我 們 這 個 大 概 幾 個 月 就 會 發 生 了 所 以 我 現 在 希 望 是 說 我 們 先 看 美 國 怎 麼 做 我 們 就 效 法 美 國 的 做 法\n\n14\n00:05:19,288 --> 00:05:43,352\n． 一 最 壞 他 如 果 不 用 在 台 灣 落 地 我 就 把 台 灣 的 那 個 所 謂 的 T i k T o k 的 那 個 連 結 連 到 美 國 的 T i k T o k 而 不 會 去 連 中 國 的 T i k T o k 所 以 我 們 看 到 的 T i k T o k 是 美 國 版 的 T i k T o k 這 是 我 所 期 待 看 到 的 所 以 就 是 說 基 本 上 我 們 可 以 從 網 域 的 設 定 這 個 網 域 的 指 定 去 把 我 們 在 台 灣 能 夠 接 觸 到 T i k T o k 不 會 是 不 會 是 那 種 我 們 認 為 不 好 的 不 良 的\n\n15\n00:05:44,392 --> 00:05:59,779\n這 個 部 分 的 一 個 意 見 的 溝 通 跟 表 達 有 跟 T i k T o k 的 在 就 是 相 關 平 台 的 業 者 來 去 做 ? 還 沒 有 但 是 我 跟 你 講 第 一 個 是 希 望 他 們 跟 一 樣 要 在 台 灣 落 地 那 當 地 落 地 如 果 我 剛 剛 講 說 如 果 落 地 不 成 我 們 就 在 網 路 上 做 處 理\n\n16\n00:06:00,819 --> 00:06:19,919\n好 那 接 著 另 外 一 個 議 題 就 是 臺 灣 也 是 很 注 重 版 權 的 地 方 啊 那 雖 然 發 生 許 多 抄 襲 的 事 件 讓 了 遺 憾 但 是 媒 體 溢 價 還 讓 媒 體 報 導 資 訊 運 用 可 以 在 網 路 社 群 平 台 利 潤 公 平 分 配 的 問 題 那 想 要 就 教 一 下 部 長 未 來 數 法 部 有 沒 有 朝 向 專 法 的 方 式\n\n17\n00:06:20,299 --> 00:06:21,419\n所 以 方 向 上 是 會 往 專 法 的 方 向 來 進 行\n\n18\n00:06:40,587 --> 00:06:41,287\n最 後 我 就 是\n\n19\n00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:30,308\n數 位 身 份 證 數 位 身 份 證 部 長 您 的 態 度 跟 看 法 數 位 身 份 證 現 在 是 因 為 這 個 當 初 我 們 要 一 個 要 裝 潢 還 有 個 個 資 保 護 嘛 這 個 要 先 過 嘛 那 這 個 我 們 就 等 這 個 那 目 前 其 實 有 些 取 代 的 方 法 比 如 說 F I D O 就 是 說 有 些 行 動 自 然 人 憑 證 這 個 可 以 暫 時 先 滿 足 現 在 這 個 網 路 上 認 證 的 需 求 不 過\n\n20\n00:07:31,048 --> 00:07:57,971\n這 個 數 位 商 證 我 們 看 就 內 政 部 在 主 導 我 們 先 看 這 些 所 謂 的 這 些 專 法 跟 就 是 這 個 跟 這 個 所 謂 的 這 個 各 自 保 護 法 在 完 備 之 後 如 果 需 要 推 動 我 們 會 配 合 推 動 那 就 是 在 立 場 上 數 位 發 展 部 還 是 會 支 持 持 續 推 動 網 路 商 證 這 有 很 多 方 法 啦 那 數 位 商 證 是 一 個 方 法 但 是 我 們 現 在 有 所 謂 的 F I D O 有 所 謂 的 自 然 人 憑 證 行 動 自 然 人 憑 證 這 個 可 以 這 個 已 經 可 以 再 運 行 我 們 就 先 用 這 一 個 這 樣\n\n21\n00:07:58,833 --> 00:07:59,736\n好 , 那 這 後 續 再 談 。 好 , 謝 謝 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--> 00:09.974\n請 部 長 。 請 黃 部 長 。 謝 謝 趙 委 員 部 長 。\n\n00:18.484 --> 00:42.395\n委 員 好 部 長 好 那 部 長 就 是 今 天 大 家 許 多 的 議 題 都 環 繞 在 打 詐 的 部 分 還 有 包 括 之 前 您 所 提 出 的 三 支 箭 的 部 分 所 以 其 實 在 今 天 許 多 委 員 的 質 詢 可 以 看 得 出 大 家 對 於 您 上 任 數 位 發 展 部 部 長 跟 您 新 的 包 括 次 長 以 及 大 家 整 體 團 隊 是 有 很 深 的 期 待 尤 其 是 大 家 更 是 期 待 希 望 能 夠 在\n\n00:42.995 --> 01:05.361\n您 帶 領 的 這 個 數 位 發 展 部 跟 以 前 的 這 個 部 的 情 況 來 講 能 夠 做 出 明 顯 的 差 異 跟 進 步 進 展 那 所 以 說 剛 才 回 歸 到 像 孟 凱 委 員 有 提 到 就 是 在 打 詐 的 這 個 通 報 網 的 部 分 以 及 包 括 剛 才 建 豪 委 員 有 提 到 那 其 實 在 這 個 通 報 網 他 已 經 包 括 專 線 那 以 及 包 括 像 我 們 看 到 現 在 詐 騙 的 部 分 是 層 出 不 窮\n\n01:26.849 --> 01:48.534\n其 實 民 眾 尤 其 在 中 南 部 鄉 下 大 家 所 缺 乏 的 是 大 家 並 沒 有 辦 法 取 得 那 麼 好 的 一 些 工 具 或 是 包 括 這 些 網 站 或 是 這 些 知 識 或 這 些 宣 導 的 一 些 要 注 意 的 事 項 那 如 何 能 夠 來 去 強 化 尤 其 在 中 南 部 在 鄉 下 地 方 來 去 解 決 大 家 對 於 這 個 打 詐 或 是 防 詐 騙 的 這 個 知 識 的 宣 導\n\n01:50.014 --> 02:18.942\n我 們 那 個 就 是 會 有 一 些 宣 導 的 一 些 服 務 跟 團 隊 然 後 再 利 用 這 個 地 方 比 如 說 像 D O C 這 樣 去 做 一 些 教 訓 練 那 當 然 我 也 講 過 就 是 說 我 們 會 把 一 些 詐 騙 的 看 到 詐 騙 拍 成 端 影 或 是 文 字 再 利 用 這 個 社 群 平 台 或 是 他 去 做 宣 導 那 當 然 這 個 鄉 下 的 這 個 下 鄉 的 很 多 工 作 我 們 已 經 在 做 是 那 個 我 們 是 署 長 這 樣 子 好 了 我 這 就 是 提 一 下 這 個 部 分\n\n02:20.782 --> 02:44.531\n我 也 不 追 這 個 預 算 變 略 跟 明 年 度 的 這 個 預 算 大 概 目 前 的 這 個 成 效 跟 執 行 率 那 我 直 接 就 是 今 天 就 是 第 一 次 嘛 部 長 第 一 次 質 詢 嘛 那 還 是 其 像 是 期 許 啊 這 個 三 支 線 的 這 個 包 括 打 債 的 部 分 能 夠 有 所 成 效 那 也 知 道 您 跟 國 發 會 主 委 劉 靜 清 交 換 意 見 完 共 同 要 籌 設 這 個 A I 的 生 態 園 區 那 在 南 北\n\n02:45.351 --> 03:00.782\n還 各 設 一 座 園 區 力 拼 數 位 經 濟 產 值 兩 年 內 突 破 一 兆 的 目 標 這 是 好 事 一 件 但 是 本 席 想 要 請 教 一 下 目 前 這 兩 個 地 方 預 計 這 個 園 區 建 設 在 哪 裡 那 個 我 還 沒 有 這 跟 劉 主 委 在 我 們 要 進 一 步 討 論 那 剛 剛 有 講 說 其 實 有 很 多\n\n03:01.502 --> 03:27.048\n那 個 很 多 地 方 其 實 都 還 蠻 合 適 說 我 們 盡 量 跟 地 方 政 府 配 合 不 過 現 在 就 是 這 樣 就 是 說 有 個 基 本 原 則 我 跟 劉 主 委 談 的 是 有 個 共 識 就 我 們 希 望 這 個 園 區 一 開 始 是 兩 個 但 以 後 可 能 不 只 兩 個 但 是 這 兩 個 一 開 始 應 該 是 要 離 高 鐵 站 很 近 就 是 說 大 家 在 彼 此 的 這 個 這 個 交 通 都 可 以 很 快 所 以 應 該 會 在 高 鐵 的 附 近 那 至 於 說 在 哪 裡 我 想 我 們 後 面 會 再 做 更 進 一 步 說 明\n\n03:28.709 --> 03:43.142\n謝 謝 部 長 , 因 為 我 聽 到 一 個 聲 音 , 變 成 這 樣 , 變 成 南 投 就 比 較 吃 虧 了 。 對 啊 , 南 投 就 不 高 鐵 站 了 。 南 投 我 們 就 是 剛 剛 講 , 因 為 這 個 園 區 是 上 中 下 游 都 有 啦 。\n\n03:43.522 --> 04:00.699\n所 以 不 會 說 只 有 在 那 個 地 方 就 是 說 我 們 上 游 可 能 在 所 謂 的 這 個 辦 公 室 但 是 中 游 跟 下 游 都 是 遍 佈 全 省 所 以 為 什 麼 說 要 交 通 快 就 是 說 我 們 期 望 就 是 這 個 A I 的 成 果 能 夠 推 動 到 第 一 個 國 內 第 一 個 到 國 外 所 以 南 投 一 定 是 我 們 一 定 會 有 服 務 在 那 邊 沒 問 題\n\n04:01.860 --> 04:27.587\n因 為 像 賴 清 德 總 統 他 選 前 提 出 逃 出 苗 大 溪 谷 計 畫 其 實 現 在 目 前 許 多 縣 市 都 遇 到 土 地 不 夠 的 問 題 跟 聲 音 那 所 以 在 這 裡 也 特 別 也 跟 部 長 做 邀 請 就 是 中 部 地 區 其 實 是 急 劇 開 發 潛 力 加 上 其 實 在 中 部 來 進 行 這 個 A I 生 態 園 區 的 設 置 不 僅 是 南 投 受 惠 啦 整 體 中 張 投 受 惠 相 信 它 帶 動 的 外 溢 效 果 是 包 括 連 北 部 南 部 我 相 信 都 會 受 惠\n\n04:28.867 --> 04:58.113\n這 個 同 意 我 們 會 再 去 再 去 評 估 再 去 再 討 論 好 謝 謝 那 接 著 是 也 要 再 接 著 請 教 因 為 剛 才 許 多 的 委 員 都 有 詢 問 到 一 些 相 關 問 題 但 是 有 幾 個 部 分 我 也 想 要 接 著 就 教 像 年 輕 人 現 在 愛 用 抖 音 啊 那 進 行 美 國 要 求 短 影 音 平 臺 T i k T o k 強 制 脫 離 母 公 司 自 己 的 跳 動 若 不 遵 守 就 要 禁 止 T i k T o k 在 美 國 音 樂 城 市 的 平 臺 上 架 那 想 要 就 教 部 長 在 臺 灣 會 不 會 也 會 禁 用 到 T i k T o k\n\n04:58.972 --> 05:18.608\n我 們 實 際 上 我 們 第 一 個 就 因 為 這 個 T i k T o k 的 危 害 對 全 世 界 民 主 國 家 都 一 樣 那 美 國 已 經 在 做 剛 講 就 是 要 求 他 們 在 那 個 當 地 要 落 地 嘛 那 我 們 這 個 大 概 幾 個 月 就 會 發 生 了 所 以 我 現 在 希 望 是 說 我 們 先 看 美 國 怎 麼 做 我 們 就 效 法 美 國 的 做 法\n\n05:19.288 --> 05:43.352\n． 一 最 壞 他 如 果 不 用 在 台 灣 落 地 我 就 把 台 灣 的 那 個 所 謂 的 T i k T o k 的 那 個 連 結 連 到 美 國 的 T i k T o k 而 不 會 去 連 中 國 的 T i k T o k 所 以 我 們 看 到 的 T i k T o k 是 美 國 版 的 T i k T o k 這 是 我 所 期 待 看 到 的 所 以 就 是 說 基 本 上 我 們 可 以 從 網 域 的 設 定 這 個 網 域 的 指 定 去 把 我 們 在 台 灣 能 夠 接 觸 到 T i k T o k 不 會 是 不 會 是 那 種 我 們 認 為 不 好 的 不 良 的\n\n05:44.392 --> 05:59.779\n這 個 部 分 的 一 個 意 見 的 溝 通 跟 表 達 有 跟 T i k T o k 的 在 就 是 相 關 平 台 的 業 者 來 去 做 ? 還 沒 有 但 是 我 跟 你 講 第 一 個 是 希 望 他 們 跟 一 樣 要 在 台 灣 落 地 那 當 地 落 地 如 果 我 剛 剛 講 說 如 果 落 地 不 成 我 們 就 在 網 路 上 做 處 理\n\n06:00.819 --> 06:19.919\n好 那 接 著 另 外 一 個 議 題 就 是 臺 灣 也 是 很 注 重 版 權 的 地 方 啊 那 雖 然 發 生 許 多 抄 襲 的 事 件 讓 了 遺 憾 但 是 媒 體 溢 價 還 讓 媒 體 報 導 資 訊 運 用 可 以 在 網 路 社 群 平 台 利 潤 公 平 分 配 的 問 題 那 想 要 就 教 一 下 部 長 未 來 數 法 部 有 沒 有 朝 向 專 法 的 方 式\n\n06:20.299 --> 06:21.419\n所 以 方 向 上 是 會 往 專 法 的 方 向 來 進 行\n\n06:40.587 --> 06:41.287\n最 後 我 就 是\n\n07:10.639 --> 07:30.308\n數 位 身 份 證 數 位 身 份 證 部 長 您 的 態 度 跟 看 法 數 位 身 份 證 現 在 是 因 為 這 個 當 初 我 們 要 一 個 要 裝 潢 還 有 個 個 資 保 護 嘛 這 個 要 先 過 嘛 那 這 個 我 們 就 等 這 個 那 目 前 其 實 有 些 取 代 的 方 法 比 如 說 F I D O 就 是 說 有 些 行 動 自 然 人 憑 證 這 個 可 以 暫 時 先 滿 足 現 在 這 個 網 路 上 認 證 的 需 求 不 過\n\n07:31.048 --> 07:57.971\n這 個 數 位 商 證 我 們 看 就 內 政 部 在 主 導 我 們 先 看 這 些 所 謂 的 這 些 專 法 跟 就 是 這 個 跟 這 個 所 謂 的 這 個 各 自 保 護 法 在 完 備 之 後 如 果 需 要 推 動 我 們 會 配 合 推 動 那 就 是 在 立 場 上 數 位 發 展 部 還 是 會 支 持 持 續 推 動 網 路 商 證 這 有 很 多 方 法 啦 那 數 位 商 證 是 一 個 方 法 但 是 我 們 現 在 有 所 謂 的 F I D O 有 所 謂 的 自 然 人 憑 證 行 動 自 然 人 憑 證 這 個 可 以 這 個 已 經 可 以 再 運 行 我 們 就 先 用 這 一 個 這 樣\n\n07:58.833 --> 07:59.736\n好 , 那 這 後 續 再 談 。 好 , 謝 謝 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