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量\n\n19\n00:06:17,008 --> 00:06:29,857\n你 當 然 要 通 過 農 業 委 員 會 啊 那 你 怎 麼 拿 得 到 所 以 他 為 了 你 要 解 決 這 個 菜 精 菜 土 這 種 痛 苦 的 惡 性 循 環 你 當 然 要 諮 詢 化 所 以 你 必 須 補 助 農 業 委 員 會 那 我 希 望 你 能 夠 跳 脫 一 些 思 維 這 個 你 不 要 想 說 他 們 都 是 國 民 黨 的 啦 所 以 呢 我 就 不 補 助 千 萬 千 萬 不 要 用 這 個 思 維\n\n20\n00:06:41,204 --> 00:06:49,468\n我 的 心 中 我 本 席 的 心 中 我 只 有 臺 灣 農 業 農 業 會 的 能 夠 升 級 能 夠 讓 幫 助 我 的 農 業 民 更 有 效 率 的 經 營 能 夠 企 業 化 的 經 營 我 的 部 本 部 我 做 立 委 快 2 0 多 年 了 7 屆 的 立 委 我 從 第 一 屆 到 現 在 都 在 跟 你 一 樣 面 對 慘 消 失 衡 啊 我 還 要 多 久 的 輪 迴 啊 還 要 多 久 的 這 種 痛 苦 的 成 科 的 輪 迴\n\n21\n00:07:08,249 --> 00:07:28,116\n該 有 智 慧 現 在 科 技 都 智 慧 化 決 策 智 慧 化 所 以 你 一 定 要 編 專 案 輔 助 補 導 我 農 業 會 的 硬 體 設 備 的 更 新 一 個 專 案 這 個 這 一 本 我 早 就 在 去 年 就 已 經 爬 出 出 來 請 南 農 中 心 做 了 這 一 本 所 有 雲 嘉 南 所 有 各 個 農 業 會 自 己 給 我 填 需 求 表 出 來\n\n22\n00:07:43,933 --> 00:07:44,113\n為 了 是 什 麼 ?\n\n23\n00:07:44,113 --> 00:07:44,533\n所 有 的 資 訊 拍 賣 市 場 農 業 產 銷 的 農 林 因 為 說 你 掌 握 在 現 場\n\n24\n00:08:01,627 --> 00:08:14,035\n好 , 為 了 達 到 農 業 決 策 智 慧 化 本 席 主 張 應 比 照 你 行 政 資 訊 系 統 的 共 用 架 構 的 模 式 專 案 輔 導 我 南 農 中 心 汰 換 各 縣 市 農 業 會 的 老 舊 電 腦 設 備 建 置 雲 端 服 務 平 台 讓 各 縣 市 農 業 會 能 夠 彼 此 享 有 這 樣 的 資 訊 服 務 然 後 呢 這 個 能 夠 實 現 我 們 各 系 統 間 的 基 訊 間 接 有 助 於 提 升 農 業 會 經 營 效 率 對 我 本 席 來 講 包 括 國 家 來 講\n\n25\n00:08:30,365 --> 00:08:56,350\n根 本 解 決 產 銷 失 衡 的 痛 苦 成 科 你 除 了 這 個 農 業 你 除 了 上 次 我 講 的 這 個 精 準 農 業 你 要 給 我 吊 書 袋 叫 做 分 子 農 業 那 這 個 也 講 到 我 的 農 業 智 慧 化 的 問 題 現 在 我 就 直 接 聚 焦 你 怎 麼 解 決 這 個 除 了 這 個 精 準 農 業 源 頭 掌 握 之 外 改 善 之 外 你 基 因 定 序 下 去 之 外 你 的 這 個 整 個 產 銷 系 統 的 設 備 跟 雲 端 你 當 然 要 建 設 啊\n\n26\n00:09:00,211 --> 00:09:10,265\n所 以 部 長 您 這 一 次 你 這 做 你 這 做 多 久 我 不 曉 得 我 希 望 你 就 是 做 4 年 甚 至 8 年 都 沒 關 係 你 只 要 一 件 事 給 我 做 你 就 是 真 的 是 公 債 農 業 部 啊 你 的 產 銷 能 夠 徹 底 的 解 決 就 在 這 邊 而 已 啊 部 長 請 回 應\n\n27\n00:09:17,729 --> 00:09:40,095\n謝 謝 委 員 對 於 我 們 那 個 農 業 相 關 資 訊 化 的 一 個 說 話 那 分 兩 個 部 分 一 個 硬 體 的 部 分 那 硬 體 的 部 分 我 想 我 們 一 定 會 積 極 去 協 助 那 軟 體 的 部 分 也 是 啊 包 括 您 剛 才 講 的 共 用 雲 端 這 個 概 念 是 一 個 共 享 的 一 個 概 念 非 常 好 但 是 現 在 要 去 克 服 的 一 個 問 題 就 是 農 會 如 果 都 自 己 願 意 加 進 去 那 是 最 好 的\n\n28\n00:09:40,675 --> 00:09:40,695\n部 長 ﹗\n\n29\n00:09:56,214 --> 00:10:05,440\n您 就 齁 如 果 您 答 應 你 就 放 手 讓 諮 詢 師 去 規 劃 去 輔 導 南 農 中 心 他 一 下 就 馬 上 對 接 1 3 9 個 農 業 委 員 會 了 您 來 我 回 到 這 個 我 檢 報 的 第 4 頁 他 們 現 在 的 規 劃 是 什 麼 你 看 喔 他 的 差 勤 人 事 財 務 管 理 農 健 保 肥 料 競 銷 匯 集 管 理 電 子 公 文 系 統 這 都 是 你 們 指 導 出 來 的 喔 他 們 現 在 未 來 給 你 報 計 畫 未 來 這 邊 就 會 有 農 林 榆 木\n\n30\n00:10:26,494 --> 00:10:52,064\n特 攝 基 礎 的 這 個 農 業 的 基 礎 資 料 就 會 進 來 了 你 就 可 以 掌 握 了 所 以 部 長 這 個 您 我 希 望 啦 這 樣 兩 個 月 啦 好 不 好 因 為 你 們 其 實 已 經 都 在 作 業 兩 個 月 內 把 這 個 要 支 持 他 們 整 個 硬 體 設 備 更 換 的 預 算 跟 這 個 雲 端 公 用 雲 端 系 統 的 這 個 預 算 跟 執 行 時 程 規 劃 出 來 兩 個 兩 個 月 可 以 嗎\n\n31\n00:10:54,914 --> 00:10:58,637\n我 想 我 們 可 以 做 一 個 完 整 的 一 個 規 劃 。 我 說 兩 個 月 ? 對 , 兩 個 月 啊 。 好 , O K , 謝 謝 部 長 , 謝 謝 。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n367\t1048\t有請部長。我們再請陳部長\n17792\t17812\t林岱樺\n34407\t47746\t的資訊設備更新跟串聯雲端資訊平台好這幾個議題跟你討論第一個爬出現況的各基礎農業會的設備老舊第二個目前在雲嘉南以南這個財團法人這個\n52933\t69229\t龍魚會南區資訊中心檢測南農中心他們現在在你們的輔導之下正在規劃這樣的方案龍魚會多元系統整合及資訊共用雲端服務計畫的規劃第三個是你們現在部本部在做的本行認為很好\n70050\t87643\t提升資訊系統串聯資訊平台最後我有一個具體要求好現在容易會使用的資訊系統已在是太過老舊了有存在資安的安全性的問題作業版本過久舊到什麼程度現在還有在用DOS還有在用Window 2000\n89364\t89504\t新聞新聞新聞新聞\n119324\t125468\t也就有資料遺失的風險如果各農漁會要進行系統的更新的話這將是會產生龐大的經費支出那現在資訊服務業發達各農漁會如果不需要自己自購伺服器的話\n136934\t144096\t他其實只要使用雲端共用平台就可以解決這個問題的 這也是你農業部、牧本部現在在做的事情好 我們來看你們的輔導呢 這個我要感謝你們資訊師跟這個資訊師跟那個商員﹑輔導師齁 兩個師呢下去呢跟這個我們南農中心的做了一個簡報\n160399\t169203\t那所以呢他們也就具體的提出這個農業會多元系統整合技資訊共用服務平台為了就是提升農業會的競爭力他能夠做到兩件事情第一個是我們這個軟硬體的設備的更新他的資訊落後的問題能夠解決第二個他的應用面\n180828\t181228\t議員會主席\n199921\t219274\t的重點是我能夠降低農業部的自建機房跟人力設備為營運的成本過往現在各農業部自己要自建機房我要配置人力那如果是有南農中心自己來做那你們來支持他那你一定會問那他自負營給我怎麼可以發這麼大筆錢去支持他呢那因為後面我要達到農業決策智慧化這件事情後續我再跟您做這個陳述\n230281\t235903\t好那你們現在農業部部本部做的是什麼呢在右圖這是你們資訊師提供的對外有這個internet對內你們有這個下面的農業部跟這個這個資料這個資料中心這個機房再來透過這個我們的這個網路接口下面就是你們的屬施個中心這樣的概念好農業部呢就是為了提升這樣的一個\n257711\t257731\t﹚林岱樺\n279500\t302879\t他是針對你的人事、你的薪資還有你的公文系統這三個做你是沒有涉及農業產銷的數據化所有農林榆木的數據化所以如果你把你這個概念再加入所有基礎的農業產銷的數據那您就您的您這一任部長\n304229\t322190\t你是一千分啦不是一百分啦是一百分的一千分你整個徹底的改改解決了我的產銷失衡好那後續我再講我的具體建議在4月25號的時候資訊師跟輔導師下去做跟農農中心做說明所以呢本期主張農業基層組織共用雲端平台\n325353\t326594\t這句話我的具體要求就是你們講的\n345703\t364459\t你們在右邊這張資訊是說我不需要為了一杯牛來養一頭牛這是你們的口號喔 也是你們目標喔也就是說你們不需要屬、施、各中心各自呢再去建置這個硬體的資料系統以及你軟體的這個雲端系統你們都不用了 直接部本部來做\n365600\t366481\t同樣道理,我難容你怎麼取得各農漁會跟拍賣市場的產、銷、進貨、拍賣相關的庫存的量\n377008\t389857\t你當然要通過農業委員會啊那你怎麼拿得到所以他為了你要解決這個菜精菜土這種痛苦的惡性循環你當然要諮詢化所以你必須補助農業委員會那我希望你能夠跳脫一些思維這個你不要想說他們都是國民黨的啦所以呢我就不補助千萬千萬不要用這個思維\n401204\t409468\t我的心中我本席的心中我只有臺灣農業農業會的能夠升級能夠讓幫助我的農業民更有效率的經營能夠企業化的經營我的部本部我做立委快20多年了7屆的立委我從第一屆到現在都在跟你一樣面對慘消失衡啊我還要多久的輪迴啊還要多久的這種痛苦的成科的輪迴\n428249\t448116\t該有智慧現在科技都智慧化決策智慧化所以你一定要編專案輔助補導我農業會的硬體設備的更新一個專案這個這一本我早就在去年就已經爬出出來請南農中心做了這一本所有雲嘉南所有各個農業會自己給我填需求表出來\n448916\t463933\t﹗\n463933\t464113\t為了是什麼?\n464113\t464533\t所有的資訊拍賣市場農業產銷的農林 因為說你掌握在現場\n481627\t494035\t好,為了達到農業決策智慧化本席主張應比照你行政資訊系統的共用架構的模式專案輔導我南農中心汰換各縣市農業會的老舊電腦設備建置雲端服務平台讓各縣市農業會能夠彼此享有這樣的資訊服務然後呢這個能夠實現我們各系統間的基訊間接有助於提升農業會經營效率對我本席來講包括國家來講\n510365\t536350\t根本解決產銷失衡的痛苦成科你除了這個農業你除了上次我講的這個精準農業你要給我吊書袋叫做分子農業那這個也講到我的農業智慧化的問題現在我就直接聚焦你怎麼解決這個除了這個精準農業源頭掌握之外改善之外你基因定序下去之外你的這個整個產銷系統的設備跟雲端你當然要建設啊\n540211\t550265\t所以部長您這一次你這做你這做多久我不曉得我希望你就是做4年甚至8年都沒關係你只要一件事給我做你就是真的是公債農業部啊你的產銷能夠徹底的解決就在這邊而已啊部長請回應\n557729\t580095\t謝謝委員對於我們那個農業相關資訊化的一個說話那分兩個部分一個硬體的部分那硬體的部分我想我們一定會積極去協助那軟體的部分也是啊包括您剛才講的共用雲端這個概念是一個共享的一個概念非常好但是現在要去克服的一個問題就是農會如果都自己願意加進去那是最好的\n580675\t580695\t部長﹗\n596214\t605440\t您就齁如果您答應你就放手讓諮詢師去規劃去輔導南農中心他一下就馬上對接139個農業委員會了您來我回到這個我檢報的第4頁他們現在的規劃是什麼你看喔他的差勤人事財務管理農健保肥料競銷匯集管理電子公文系統這都是你們指導出來的喔他們現在未來給你報計畫未來這邊就會有農林榆木\n626494\t652064\t特攝基礎的這個農業的基礎資料就會進來了你就可以掌握了所以部長這個您我希望啦這樣兩個月啦好不好因為你們其實已經都在作業兩個月內把這個要支持他們整個硬體設備更換的預算跟這個雲端公用雲端系統的這個預算跟執行時程規劃出來兩個兩個月可以嗎\n654914\t658637\t我想我們可以做一個完整的一個規劃。我說兩個月?對,兩個月啊。好,OK,謝謝部長,謝謝。\n","txt":"有請部長。我們再請陳部長\n林岱樺\n的資訊設備更新跟串聯雲端資訊平台好這幾個議題跟你討論第一個爬出現況的各基礎農業會的設備老舊第二個目前在雲嘉南以南這個財團法人這個\n龍魚會南區資訊中心檢測南農中心他們現在在你們的輔導之下正在規劃這樣的方案龍魚會多元系統整合及資訊共用雲端服務計畫的規劃第三個是你們現在部本部在做的本行認為很好\n提升資訊系統串聯資訊平台最後我有一個具體要求好現在容易會使用的資訊系統已在是太過老舊了有存在資安的安全性的問題作業版本過久舊到什麼程度現在還有在用DOS還有在用Window 2000\n新聞新聞新聞新聞\n也就有資料遺失的風險如果各農漁會要進行系統的更新的話這將是會產生龐大的經費支出那現在資訊服務業發達各農漁會如果不需要自己自購伺服器的話\n他其實只要使用雲端共用平台就可以解決這個問題的 這也是你農業部、牧本部現在在做的事情好 我們來看你們的輔導呢 這個我要感謝你們資訊師跟這個資訊師跟那個商員﹑輔導師齁 兩個師呢下去呢跟這個我們南農中心的做了一個簡報\n那所以呢他們也就具體的提出這個農業會多元系統整合技資訊共用服務平台為了就是提升農業會的競爭力他能夠做到兩件事情第一個是我們這個軟硬體的設備的更新他的資訊落後的問題能夠解決第二個他的應用面\n議員會主席\n的重點是我能夠降低農業部的自建機房跟人力設備為營運的成本過往現在各農業部自己要自建機房我要配置人力那如果是有南農中心自己來做那你們來支持他那你一定會問那他自負營給我怎麼可以發這麼大筆錢去支持他呢那因為後面我要達到農業決策智慧化這件事情後續我再跟您做這個陳述\n好那你們現在農業部部本部做的是什麼呢在右圖這是你們資訊師提供的對外有這個internet對內你們有這個下面的農業部跟這個這個資料這個資料中心這個機房再來透過這個我們的這個網路接口下面就是你們的屬施個中心這樣的概念好農業部呢就是為了提升這樣的一個\n﹚林岱樺\n他是針對你的人事、你的薪資還有你的公文系統這三個做你是沒有涉及農業產銷的數據化所有農林榆木的數據化所以如果你把你這個概念再加入所有基礎的農業產銷的數據那您就您的您這一任部長\n你是一千分啦不是一百分啦是一百分的一千分你整個徹底的改改解決了我的產銷失衡好那後續我再講我的具體建議在4月25號的時候資訊師跟輔導師下去做跟農農中心做說明所以呢本期主張農業基層組織共用雲端平台\n這句話我的具體要求就是你們講的\n你們在右邊這張資訊是說我不需要為了一杯牛來養一頭牛這是你們的口號喔 也是你們目標喔也就是說你們不需要屬、施、各中心各自呢再去建置這個硬體的資料系統以及你軟體的這個雲端系統你們都不用了 直接部本部來做\n同樣道理,我難容你怎麼取得各農漁會跟拍賣市場的產、銷、進貨、拍賣相關的庫存的量\n你當然要通過農業委員會啊那你怎麼拿得到所以他為了你要解決這個菜精菜土這種痛苦的惡性循環你當然要諮詢化所以你必須補助農業委員會那我希望你能夠跳脫一些思維這個你不要想說他們都是國民黨的啦所以呢我就不補助千萬千萬不要用這個思維\n我的心中我本席的心中我只有臺灣農業農業會的能夠升級能夠讓幫助我的農業民更有效率的經營能夠企業化的經營我的部本部我做立委快20多年了7屆的立委我從第一屆到現在都在跟你一樣面對慘消失衡啊我還要多久的輪迴啊還要多久的這種痛苦的成科的輪迴\n該有智慧現在科技都智慧化決策智慧化所以你一定要編專案輔助補導我農業會的硬體設備的更新一個專案這個這一本我早就在去年就已經爬出出來請南農中心做了這一本所有雲嘉南所有各個農業會自己給我填需求表出來\n﹗\n為了是什麼?\n所有的資訊拍賣市場農業產銷的農林 因為說你掌握在現場\n好,為了達到農業決策智慧化本席主張應比照你行政資訊系統的共用架構的模式專案輔導我南農中心汰換各縣市農業會的老舊電腦設備建置雲端服務平台讓各縣市農業會能夠彼此享有這樣的資訊服務然後呢這個能夠實現我們各系統間的基訊間接有助於提升農業會經營效率對我本席來講包括國家來講\n根本解決產銷失衡的痛苦成科你除了這個農業你除了上次我講的這個精準農業你要給我吊書袋叫做分子農業那這個也講到我的農業智慧化的問題現在我就直接聚焦你怎麼解決這個除了這個精準農業源頭掌握之外改善之外你基因定序下去之外你的這個整個產銷系統的設備跟雲端你當然要建設啊\n所以部長您這一次你這做你這做多久我不曉得我希望你就是做4年甚至8年都沒關係你只要一件事給我做你就是真的是公債農業部啊你的產銷能夠徹底的解決就在這邊而已啊部長請回應\n謝謝委員對於我們那個農業相關資訊化的一個說話那分兩個部分一個硬體的部分那硬體的部分我想我們一定會積極去協助那軟體的部分也是啊包括您剛才講的共用雲端這個概念是一個共享的一個概念非常好但是現在要去克服的一個問題就是農會如果都自己願意加進去那是最好的\n部長﹗\n您就齁如果您答應你就放手讓諮詢師去規劃去輔導南農中心他一下就馬上對接139個農業委員會了您來我回到這個我檢報的第4頁他們現在的規劃是什麼你看喔他的差勤人事財務管理農健保肥料競銷匯集管理電子公文系統這都是你們指導出來的喔他們現在未來給你報計畫未來這邊就會有農林榆木\n特攝基礎的這個農業的基礎資料就會進來了你就可以掌握了所以部長這個您我希望啦這樣兩個月啦好不好因為你們其實已經都在作業兩個月內把這個要支持他們整個硬體設備更換的預算跟這個雲端公用雲端系統的這個預算跟執行時程規劃出來兩個兩個月可以嗎\n我想我們可以做一個完整的一個規劃。我說兩個月?對,兩個月啊。好,OK,謝謝部長,謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.367 --> 00:01.048\n有 請 部 長 。 我 們 再 請 陳 部 長\n\n00:17.792 --> 00:17.812\n林 岱 樺\n\n00:34.407 --> 00:47.746\n的 資 訊 設 備 更 新 跟 串 聯 雲 端 資 訊 平 台 好 這 幾 個 議 題 跟 你 討 論 第 一 個 爬 出 現 況 的 各 基 礎 農 業 會 的 設 備 老 舊 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