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跟許委員報告一下到今年年底的時候呢總共推出的就中央加地方的大約是12萬戶所以我們用這樣推算在未來到117年\n你上面寫121年 未來的8年的話大概也是13萬戶\n所以說等於這個進度的話可能也我想大家的感受是有點偏慢因為現在就已經12萬戶了未來8年再13萬戶其實我想我們現在任期是4年那你現在想是未來的8年才會有這個另外13萬戶所以這個計畫的編列我覺得可能要請部長這邊再能夠加快的速度進度的部分再把它補強希望能夠越快越好\n另外再請教部長我們現在有一個國土計劃法要推動根據它第45條的規定應該在114年4月30號前公告國土功能分區圖但是到4月底之前只有金門連江花連江國土功能分區圖的法定書圖提交給內政部來審議請問一下還有19個還沒有完成的政府內政部要怎麼協助他們\n國土計劃法\n能不能如期在6月7號以前送到內政部來審查是有一些疑慮他希望我們多做溝通那我們也了解到說其他的縣市政府包括有一些宗教團體或者是農漁民團體都有表達不同的意見那目前我們還是希望說他們能夠按照原來\n由內政部的國土管理署的方向 送到我們部體頭來審議當然我們這個委員：大院的委員 也有提到說有沒有需要延期的部分那延期的真正理由 我們如果瞭解狀況 可以馬上排解就排解如果沒有馬上排解的話 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跟許委員報告一下到今年年底的時候呢總共推出的就中央加地方的大約是12萬戶所以我們用這樣推算在未來到117年"},{"start":237.185,"end":240.82,"text":"你上面寫121年 未來的8年的話大概也是13萬戶"},{"start":242.441,"end":252.586,"text":"所以說等於這個進度的話可能也我想大家的感受是有點偏慢因為現在就已經12萬戶了未來8年再13萬戶其實我想我們現在任期是4年那你現在想是未來的8年才會有這個另外13萬戶所以這個計畫的編列我覺得可能要請部長這邊再能夠加快的速度進度的部分再把它補強希望能夠越快越好"},{"start":268.633,"end":291.878,"text":"另外再請教部長我們現在有一個國土計劃法要推動根據它第45條的規定應該在114年4月30號前公告國土功能分區圖但是到4月底之前只有金門連江花連江國土功能分區圖的法定書圖提交給內政部來審議請問一下還有19個還沒有完成的政府內政部要怎麼協助他們"},{"start":297.779,"end":297.939,"text":"國土計劃法"},{"start":314.713,"end":332.766,"text":"能不能如期在6月7號以前送到內政部來審查是有一些疑慮他希望我們多做溝通那我們也了解到說其他的縣市政府包括有一些宗教團體或者是農漁民團體都有表達不同的意見那目前我們還是希望說他們能夠按照原來"},{"start":334.227,"end":352.218,"text":"由內政部的國土管理署的方向 送到我們部體頭來審議當然我們這個委員：大院的委員 也有提到說有沒有需要延期的部分那延期的真正理由 我們如果瞭解狀況 可以馬上排解就排解如果沒有馬上排解的話 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