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00:00:52,681\n委 員 好 謝 謝 來 三 位 署 長 兩 位 熱 的 那 內 政 部 在 五 月 的 時 候 五 月 十 幾 號 的 時 候 宣 布 了 一 個 錦 霄 移 空 深 夜 勤 務 津 貼 也 就 是 對 於 錦 霄 移 空 的 基 層 同 仁 們 對 於 0 到 1 2 晚 上 1 2 點 到 早 上 6 點 的 這 個 勤 務 的 加 班 費 加 急 的 部 分 那 署 長 有 沒 有 聽 到 什 麼 反 應 正 面 或 反 面 還 可 以 加 強 的 地 方\n\n3\n00:00:53,764 --> 00:01:17,478\n好 那 目 前 就 是 0 點 到 6 點 每 個 小 時 是 加 1 0 0 塊 那 現 在 這 個 加 的 這 個 一 樣 是 大 概 就 是 以 出 勤 務 的 為 主 出 勤 務 的 只 要 有 排 班 的 有 排 班 出 勤 務 比 如 講 像 是 巡 邏 守 望 或 者 是 被 請 受 理 民 眾 報 案 有 出 勤 務 的 出 去 的 去 執 勤 的 為 主 那 如 果 是 在\n\n4\n00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:18,919\n委 員 會 主 席\n\n5\n00:01:44,025 --> 00:02:04,171\n有 一 個 心 態 就 是 希 望 你 趕 快 來 做 一 個 調 整 過 去 臺 灣 我 們 的 住 宅 政 策 包 含 現 在 我 們 的 設 宅 的 興 建 的 進 度 由 我 們 前 花 次 然 後 現 在 住 都 中 心 的 董 事 長 花 敬 群 那 他 放 手 去\n\n6\n00:02:05,347 --> 00:02:23,943\n繼 續 做 這 些 國 家 社 會 住 宅 的 這 些 新 建 規 劃 等 等 的 我 覺 得 這 個 是 過 去 他 主 導 但 是 現 在 你 有 一 個 很 重 要 的 責 任 跟 工 作 就 是 說 對 於 縣 市 政 府 當 然 我 們 國 家 的 制 度 是 這 樣 子 對 於 縣 市 政 府 的 重 劃 之 後 的 這 些 底 廢 地\n\n7\n00:02:25,124 --> 00:02:46,496\n還 有 縣 市 政 府 對 於 社 宅 興 建 的 配 合 度 的 比 例 我 希 望 國 土 署 這 邊 來 研 議 出 一 套 如 果 這 個 縣 市 政 府 他 的 社 宅 興 建 量 是 多 的 然 後 他 的 社 宅 興 建 量 比 例 或 者 是 以 比 如 說 以 1 1 2 、 1 1 3 年 年 度 的 社 宅 興 建 比 例 我 們 這 樣 算 一 下\n\n8\n00:02:47,556 --> 00:03:07,958\n對 於 這 些 縣 市 政 府 送 上 來 的 勢 力 重 劃 或 者 是 區 斷 徵 收 的 這 些 核 定 那 國 土 署 這 邊 應 該 要 予 以 適 度 的 這 些 增 減 它 的 這 個 底 廢 地 的 比 例 我 的 意 思 是 說 國 土 署 我 們 在 一 開 始 在 核 定 的 時 候 我 們 就 要 當 股 東\n\n9\n00:03:09,258 --> 00:03:09,378\n李 柏 毅 議 員\n\n10\n00:03:21,715 --> 00:03:22,135\n主 席 主 席 主 席\n\n11\n00:03:53,894 --> 00:04:10,853\n主 義 縣 市 會 去 控 管 他 的 案 子 也 就 是 說 直 接 去 下 到 他 所 有 的 新 的 案 子 裡 面 去 做 管 控 這 是 實 務 上 最 直 接 而 且 會 核 對 他 周 圍 社 宅 的 興 建 狀 況\n\n12\n00:04:11,934 --> 00:04:36,352\n如 果 周 圍 的 社 宅 少 那 個 地 方 空 白 就 會 特 別 多 不 是 周 圍 我 覺 得 你 就 是 要 拿 這 一 個 縣 市 我 就 拿 台 中 跟 高 雄 或 台 南 來 當 例 子 好 了 這 三 個 縣 市 的 重 劃 的 底 廢 地 那 你 內 政 部 在 核 定 的 時 候 是 不 是 就 應 該 拿 他 當 年 或 前 一 年 的 這 個 社 會 住 宅 的 興 建 的 量 來 做 一 個 審 核 之 外 那 也 要 適 度 的 放 入 內 政 部 要 當 股 東\n\n13\n00:04:37,673 --> 00:04:46,022\n來 做 新 建 社 會 住 宅 的 一 個 空 間 ： 感 謝 委 員 ： 來 書 面 資 料 來 跟 我 做 討 論 ： 我 們 一 定 會 朝 這 個 方 向 來 做 ： 來 我 要 請 部 長 上 台 了 好 現 在 有 請 部 長 李 委 員 好 謝 謝 部 長 部 長 在 左 營 跟 南 直 也 就 是 我 現 在 的 選 區\n\n14\n00:05:01,956 --> 00:05:21,871\n過 去 8 年 的 期 間 留 下 了 一 些 建 設 我 必 須 要 持 續 的 來 做 追 蹤 昨 天 立 法 院 通 過 了 立 法 院 職 權 侵 蝕 法 的 一 些 修 正 部 長 你 以 後 不 能 對 我 反 質 詢 但 是 我 同 意 部 長 對 我 反 質 詢 內 容 我 來 講\n\n15\n00:05:25,687 --> 00:05:46,999\n新 台 1 7 縣 的 進 度 這 是 我 要 問 你 的 因 為 這 是 從 你 當 立 委 任 內 來 不 斷 推 動 推 動 到 換 了 1 0 個 國 防 部 長 換 了 1 0 個 市 政 府 的 公 務 局 長 只 有 立 委 還 持 續 的 在 追 蹤 這 一 條 目 前 的 進 度 我 想 我 會 繼 續 來 追 蹤 這 個 進 度 然 後 我 也 翻 了 部 長\n\n16\n00:05:47,979 --> 00:06:14,152\n其 實 整 個 內 政 部 的 這 個 工 作 報 告 裡 面 有 好 多 選 區 的 事 情 要 做 那 未 來 都 要 跟 部 長 這 邊 還 有 所 屬 的 包 含 國 土 署 、 自 然 公 園 、 國 家 自 然 公 園 然 後 還 有 一 些 濕 地 的 管 理 還 有 污 水 、 再 生 水 的 管 理 未 來 都 要 跟 部 長 持 續 的 來 探 討 我 們 全 力 支 持\n\n17\n00:06:14,953 --> 00:06:27,951\n我 講 新 台 1 7 縣 新 台 1 7 縣 其 實 現 在 包 含 到 南 段 北 段 已 經 動 工 然 後 未 來 的 這 個 中 海 路 我 們 現 在 已 經 在 跟 國 防 部 包 含 這 個 海 軍 總 議 院\n\n18\n00:06:30,795 --> 00:06:31,335\n對 於 之 前 的 選 區 多 多 照 顧\n\n19\n00:06:55,746 --> 00:07:24,714\n是 謝 謝 李 委 員 我 想 在 李 委 員 的 任 內 比 較 重 要 的 一 件 事 情 就 是 說 我 們 把 這 個 台 積 電 引 進 到 這 個 南 梓 跟 左 營 這 個 地 區 所 以 對 於 整 個 生 活 圈 的 計 畫 包 括 新 台 1 7 線 未 來 如 何 可 以 協 助 我 們 很 多 高 科 技 人 口 以 及 就 業 的 移 動 尚 未 非 常 的 重 要 那 委 員 也 提 到 不 管 是 未 來 的 用 水 用 電 包 括 像 南 梓 的 這 個 污 水 的 處 理 廠 變 成 再 生 水 的 部 分 我 們 當 然 也 都 全 力 支 持\n\n20\n00:07:26,195 --> 00:07:49,475\n新 台 1 7 縣 原 先 是 屬 於 生 活 圈 道 路 那 是 屬 於 原 來 的 內 政 部 營 建 署 也 就 是 國 土 管 理 署 所 轄 管 的 範 圍 我 們 一 定 全 力 來 支 持 那 再 來 就 是 國 防 部 內 部 的 這 個 代 差 代 鑑 如 果 他 進 度 可 以 超 前 的 話 那 未 來 國 土 管 理 署 有 關 於 鋪 設 道 路 的 部 分 讓 他 可 以 銜 接 到 左 營 高 鐵 站 那 我 想 可 以 如 期 如 質 完 成\n\n21\n00:07:49,755 --> 00:07:49,975\n李 柏 毅 委 員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3390\t5313\t警政署、消防署、移民署張署長、蕭署長、鍾署長\n24415\t52681\t委員好謝謝來三位署長兩位熱的那內政部在五月的時候五月十幾號的時候宣布了一個錦霄移空深夜勤務津貼也就是對於錦霄移空的基層同仁們對於0到12晚上12點到早上6點的這個勤務的加班費加急的部分那署長有沒有聽到什麼反應正面或反面還可以加強的地方\n53764\t77478\t好那目前就是0點到6點每個小時是加100塊那現在這個加的這個一樣是大概就是以出勤務的為主出勤務的只要有排班的有排班出勤務比如講像是巡邏守望或者是被請受理民眾報案有出勤務的出去的去執勤的為主那如果是在\n78439\t78919\t委員會主席\n104025\t124171\t有一個心態就是希望你趕快來做一個調整過去臺灣我們的住宅政策包含現在我們的設宅的興建的進度由我們前花次然後現在住都中心的董事長花敬群那他放手去\n125347\t143943\t繼續做這些國家社會住宅的這些新建規劃等等的我覺得這個是過去他主導但是現在你有一個很重要的責任跟工作就是說對於縣市政府當然我們國家的制度是這樣子對於縣市政府的重劃之後的這些底廢地\n145124\t166496\t還有縣市政府對於社宅興建的配合度的比例我希望國土署這邊來研議出一套如果這個縣市政府他的社宅興建量是多的然後他的社宅興建量比例或者是以比如說以112、113年年度的社宅興建比例我們這樣算一下\n167556\t187958\t對於這些縣市政府送上來的勢力重劃或者是區斷徵收的這些核定那國土署這邊應該要予以適度的這些增減它的這個底廢地的比例我的意思是說國土署我們在一開始在核定的時候我們就要當股東\n189258\t189378\t李柏毅議員\n201715\t202135\t主席主席主席\n233894\t250853\t主義縣市會去控管他的案子也就是說直接去下到他所有的新的案子裡面去做管控這是實務上最直接而且會核對他周圍社宅的興建狀況\n251934\t276352\t如果周圍的社宅少 那個地方空白就會特別多不是周圍 我覺得你就是要拿這一個縣市我就拿台中跟高雄或台南來當例子好了這三個縣市的重劃的底廢地那你內政部在核定的時候是不是就應該拿他當年或前一年的這個社會住宅的興建的量來做一個審核之外那也要適度的放入內政部要當股東\n277673\t286022\t來做新建社會住宅的一個空間：感謝委員：來書面資料來跟我做討論：我們一定會朝這個方向來做：來我要請部長上台了好現在有請部長李委員好謝謝部長部長在左營跟南直也就是我現在的選區\n301956\t321871\t過去8年的期間留下了一些建設我必須要持續的來做追蹤昨天立法院通過了立法院職權侵蝕法的一些修正部長你以後不能對我反質詢但是我同意部長對我反質詢內容我來講\n325687\t346999\t新台17縣的進度這是我要問你的因為這是從你當立委任內來不斷推動推動到換了10個國防部長換了10個市政府的公務局長只有立委還持續的在追蹤這一條目前的進度我想我會繼續來追蹤這個進度然後我也翻了部長\n347979\t374152\t其實整個內政部的這個工作報告裡面有好多選區的事情要做那未來都要跟部長這邊還有所屬的包含國土署、自然公園、國家自然公園然後還有一些濕地的管理還有污水、再生水的管理未來都要跟部長持續的來探討我們全力支持\n374953\t387951\t我講新台17縣新台17縣其實現在包含到南段北段已經動工然後未來的這個中海路我們現在已經在跟國防部包含這個海軍總議院\n390795\t391335\t對於之前的選區多多照顧\n415746\t444714\t是 謝謝李委員我想在李委員的任內比較重要的一件事情就是說我們把這個台積電引進到這個南梓跟左營這個地區所以對於整個生活圈的計畫包括新台17線未來如何可以協助我們很多高科技人口以及就業的移動尚未非常的重要那委員也提到不管是未來的用水用電包括像南梓的這個污水的處理廠變成再生水的部分我們當然也都全力支持\n446195\t469475\t新台17縣原先是屬於生活圈道路那是屬於原來的內政部營建署也就是國土管理署所轄管的範圍我們一定全力來支持那再來就是國防部內部的這個代差代鑑如果他進度可以超前的話那未來國土管理署有關於鋪設道路的部分讓他可以銜接到左營高鐵站那我想可以如期如質完成\n469755\t469975\t李柏毅委員\n","txt":"警政署、消防署、移民署張署長、蕭署長、鍾署長\n委員好謝謝來三位署長兩位熱的那內政部在五月的時候五月十幾號的時候宣布了一個錦霄移空深夜勤務津貼也就是對於錦霄移空的基層同仁們對於0到12晚上12點到早上6點的這個勤務的加班費加急的部分那署長有沒有聽到什麼反應正面或反面還可以加強的地方\n好那目前就是0點到6點每個小時是加100塊那現在這個加的這個一樣是大概就是以出勤務的為主出勤務的只要有排班的有排班出勤務比如講像是巡邏守望或者是被請受理民眾報案有出勤務的出去的去執勤的為主那如果是在\n委員會主席\n有一個心態就是希望你趕快來做一個調整過去臺灣我們的住宅政策包含現在我們的設宅的興建的進度由我們前花次然後現在住都中心的董事長花敬群那他放手去\n繼續做這些國家社會住宅的這些新建規劃等等的我覺得這個是過去他主導但是現在你有一個很重要的責任跟工作就是說對於縣市政府當然我們國家的制度是這樣子對於縣市政府的重劃之後的這些底廢地\n還有縣市政府對於社宅興建的配合度的比例我希望國土署這邊來研議出一套如果這個縣市政府他的社宅興建量是多的然後他的社宅興建量比例或者是以比如說以112、113年年度的社宅興建比例我們這樣算一下\n對於這些縣市政府送上來的勢力重劃或者是區斷徵收的這些核定那國土署這邊應該要予以適度的這些增減它的這個底廢地的比例我的意思是說國土署我們在一開始在核定的時候我們就要當股東\n李柏毅議員\n主席主席主席\n主義縣市會去控管他的案子也就是說直接去下到他所有的新的案子裡面去做管控這是實務上最直接而且會核對他周圍社宅的興建狀況\n如果周圍的社宅少 那個地方空白就會特別多不是周圍 我覺得你就是要拿這一個縣市我就拿台中跟高雄或台南來當例子好了這三個縣市的重劃的底廢地那你內政部在核定的時候是不是就應該拿他當年或前一年的這個社會住宅的興建的量來做一個審核之外那也要適度的放入內政部要當股東\n來做新建社會住宅的一個空間：感謝委員：來書面資料來跟我做討論：我們一定會朝這個方向來做：來我要請部長上台了好現在有請部長李委員好謝謝部長部長在左營跟南直也就是我現在的選區\n過去8年的期間留下了一些建設我必須要持續的來做追蹤昨天立法院通過了立法院職權侵蝕法的一些修正部長你以後不能對我反質詢但是我同意部長對我反質詢內容我來講\n新台17縣的進度這是我要問你的因為這是從你當立委任內來不斷推動推動到換了10個國防部長換了10個市政府的公務局長只有立委還持續的在追蹤這一條目前的進度我想我會繼續來追蹤這個進度然後我也翻了部長\n其實整個內政部的這個工作報告裡面有好多選區的事情要做那未來都要跟部長這邊還有所屬的包含國土署、自然公園、國家自然公園然後還有一些濕地的管理還有污水、再生水的管理未來都要跟部長持續的來探討我們全力支持\n我講新台17縣新台17縣其實現在包含到南段北段已經動工然後未來的這個中海路我們現在已經在跟國防部包含這個海軍總議院\n對於之前的選區多多照顧\n是 謝謝李委員我想在李委員的任內比較重要的一件事情就是說我們把這個台積電引進到這個南梓跟左營這個地區所以對於整個生活圈的計畫包括新台17線未來如何可以協助我們很多高科技人口以及就業的移動尚未非常的重要那委員也提到不管是未來的用水用電包括像南梓的這個污水的處理廠變成再生水的部分我們當然也都全力支持\n新台17縣原先是屬於生活圈道路那是屬於原來的內政部營建署也就是國土管理署所轄管的範圍我們一定全力來支持那再來就是國防部內部的這個代差代鑑如果他進度可以超前的話那未來國土管理署有關於鋪設道路的部分讓他可以銜接到左營高鐵站那我想可以如期如質完成\n李柏毅委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.390 --> 00:05.313\n警 政 署 、 消 防 署 、 移 民 署 張 署 長 、 蕭 署 長 、 鍾 署 長\n\n00:24.415 --> 00:52.681\n委 員 好 謝 謝 來 三 位 署 長 兩 位 熱 的 那 內 政 部 在 五 月 的 時 候 五 月 十 幾 號 的 時 候 宣 布 了 一 個 錦 霄 移 空 深 夜 勤 務 津 貼 也 就 是 對 於 錦 霄 移 空 的 基 層 同 仁 們 對 於 0 到 1 2 晚 上 1 2 點 到 早 上 6 點 的 這 個 勤 務 的 加 班 費 加 急 的 部 分 那 署 長 有 沒 有 聽 到 什 麼 反 應 正 面 或 反 面 還 可 以 加 強 的 地 方\n\n00:53.764 --> 01:17.478\n好 那 目 前 就 是 0 點 到 6 點 每 個 小 時 是 加 1 0 0 塊 那 現 在 這 個 加 的 這 個 一 樣 是 大 概 就 是 以 出 勤 務 的 為 主 出 勤 務 的 只 要 有 排 班 的 有 排 班 出 勤 務 比 如 講 像 是 巡 邏 守 望 或 者 是 被 請 受 理 民 眾 報 案 有 出 勤 務 的 出 去 的 去 執 勤 的 為 主 那 如 果 是 在\n\n01:18.439 --> 01:18.919\n委 員 會 主 席\n\n01:44.025 --> 02:04.171\n有 一 個 心 態 就 是 希 望 你 趕 快 來 做 一 個 調 整 過 去 臺 灣 我 們 的 住 宅 政 策 包 含 現 在 我 們 的 設 宅 的 興 建 的 進 度 由 我 們 前 花 次 然 後 現 在 住 都 中 心 的 董 事 長 花 敬 群 那 他 放 手 去\n\n02:05.347 --> 02:23.943\n繼 續 做 這 些 國 家 社 會 住 宅 的 這 些 新 建 規 劃 等 等 的 我 覺 得 這 個 是 過 去 他 主 導 但 是 現 在 你 有 一 個 很 重 要 的 責 任 跟 工 作 就 是 說 對 於 縣 市 政 府 當 然 我 們 國 家 的 制 度 是 這 樣 子 對 於 縣 市 政 府 的 重 劃 之 後 的 這 些 底 廢 地\n\n02:25.124 --> 02:46.496\n還 有 縣 市 政 府 對 於 社 宅 興 建 的 配 合 度 的 比 例 我 希 望 國 土 署 這 邊 來 研 議 出 一 套 如 果 這 個 縣 市 政 府 他 的 社 宅 興 建 量 是 多 的 然 後 他 的 社 宅 興 建 量 比 例 或 者 是 以 比 如 說 以 1 1 2 、 1 1 3 年 年 度 的 社 宅 興 建 比 例 我 們 這 樣 算 一 下\n\n02:47.556 --> 03:07.958\n對 於 這 些 縣 市 政 府 送 上 來 的 勢 力 重 劃 或 者 是 區 斷 徵 收 的 這 些 核 定 那 國 土 署 這 邊 應 該 要 予 以 適 度 的 這 些 增 減 它 的 這 個 底 廢 地 的 比 例 我 的 意 思 是 說 國 土 署 我 們 在 一 開 始 在 核 定 的 時 候 我 們 就 要 當 股 東\n\n03:09.258 --> 03:09.378\n李 柏 毅 議 員\n\n03:21.715 --> 03:22.135\n主 席 主 席 主 席\n\n03:53.894 --> 04:10.853\n主 義 縣 市 會 去 控 管 他 的 案 子 也 就 是 說 直 接 去 下 到 他 所 有 的 新 的 案 子 裡 面 去 做 管 控 這 是 實 務 上 最 直 接 而 且 會 核 對 他 周 圍 社 宅 的 興 建 狀 況\n\n04:11.934 --> 04:36.352\n如 果 周 圍 的 社 宅 少 那 個 地 方 空 白 就 會 特 別 多 不 是 周 圍 我 覺 得 你 就 是 要 拿 這 一 個 縣 市 我 就 拿 台 中 跟 高 雄 或 台 南 來 當 例 子 好 了 這 三 個 縣 市 的 重 劃 的 底 廢 地 那 你 內 政 部 在 核 定 的 時 候 是 不 是 就 應 該 拿 他 當 年 或 前 一 年 的 這 個 社 會 住 宅 的 興 建 的 量 來 做 一 個 審 核 之 外 那 也 要 適 度 的 放 入 內 政 部 要 當 股 東\n\n04:37.673 --> 04:46.022\n來 做 新 建 社 會 住 宅 的 一 個 空 間 ： 感 謝 委 員 ： 來 書 面 資 料 來 跟 我 做 討 論 ： 我 們 一 定 會 朝 這 個 方 向 來 做 ： 來 我 要 請 部 長 上 台 了 好 現 在 有 請 部 長 李 委 員 好 謝 謝 部 長 部 長 在 左 營 跟 南 直 也 就 是 我 現 在 的 選 區\n\n05:01.956 --> 05:21.871\n過 去 8 年 的 期 間 留 下 了 一 些 建 設 我 必 須 要 持 續 的 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