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長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5819\t6079\t主席\n13551\t18394\t關於部長過去非常熟悉的足球運動那部長過去您擔任過高雄足球委員會的主委推動國內女足不遺餘力非常感謝部長然後還帶台灣做運動外交參加相關的會議然後重點是我3月還去參加了一場球賽\n37005\t37165\t：陳培瑜\n58129\t58449\t主席\n71042\t87901\t在以前我們都是希望說有沒有比較廢棄的公園預定地等等這些提供他們來使用但是現在在可以說土地非常不容易取得的狀況之下我們也會朝著說公園的設施裡面到底可不可以協助這些喜好這個休閒運動的這個朋友或者團體能夠來推動來使用\n92165\t120140\t那像高雄市政府在陳其邁的主政之下其實他蠻友善就是說他們如果有提出申請然後付一點清潔費或管理費的話甚至學校的操場在非上課期間也可以提供給這些團體來使用可是我想要可以擴散到其他縣市的部分恐怕也必須要中央部會來一起協助所以如果委員所垂詢的部分就是說未來有很多都市計畫的公共設施的用地\n120720\t120860\t李慧琼議員\n146778\t154685\t打球或踢球然後把樹把它砍掉不太可能一定要有一大片的綠地面積同時這個綠地面積要比較平坦否則小朋友或是其他的年輕人在裡面運動的話也會受傷所以我們如果有機會的話在陳委員非常關心體育的狀況之下休閒運動設施我們會跟教育部的體育署\n169978\t170619\t李慧琼議員\n185894\t189396\t大型的、中型的、小型的、然後都市跟非都市型的困境,部長真的完全清楚,那我們就直接切入重點,部長我幫你找到一個可能性,就是您剛剛說的再往下一頁。\n206010\t206911\t中文字幕提供\n235830\t237252\t我們找到在內政部107有一個令\n261833\t287846\t內政部令認可錘球場可以作為都市計畫公共設施用地對目標使用辦法第三條副表以獵物選項：內政部在109年一樣：內政部令把射箭場也放進去了：於是射箭場跟錘球場：就有機會放進相關的欄位當中：作為可參考的依據：那如同您剛剛說的體育署教育部要有角色我們往下看那體育署呢\n288766\t305298\t提議書其實他們已經有相關的所謂五人制八人制共用型球場的參考手冊那我相信如同部長您所熟悉這個業務的程度一定知道只要把體育署相關這個辦法作為內政部相關令頒發的可能性參考其實就有機會\n306198\t306498\t﹚陳培瑜﹚\n333285\t351689\t其實沒有問題就是我們剛剛有看到包括您所提到的射箭場跟槌球場啊那我們就按照這樣子的行政程序跟體育署徵得同意之後就直接公告好太好了謝謝部長我們為兒童身心健康一起努力謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝培瑜的質詢非常棒我們樂觀其成謝謝部長\n","txt":"主席\n關於部長過去非常熟悉的足球運動那部長過去您擔任過高雄足球委員會的主委推動國內女足不遺餘力非常感謝部長然後還帶台灣做運動外交參加相關的會議然後重點是我3月還去參加了一場球賽\n：陳培瑜\n主席\n在以前我們都是希望說有沒有比較廢棄的公園預定地等等這些提供他們來使用但是現在在可以說土地非常不容易取得的狀況之下我們也會朝著說公園的設施裡面到底可不可以協助這些喜好這個休閒運動的這個朋友或者團體能夠來推動來使用\n那像高雄市政府在陳其邁的主政之下其實他蠻友善就是說他們如果有提出申請然後付一點清潔費或管理費的話甚至學校的操場在非上課期間也可以提供給這些團體來使用可是我想要可以擴散到其他縣市的部分恐怕也必須要中央部會來一起協助所以如果委員所垂詢的部分就是說未來有很多都市計畫的公共設施的用地\n李慧琼議員\n打球或踢球然後把樹把它砍掉不太可能一定要有一大片的綠地面積同時這個綠地面積要比較平坦否則小朋友或是其他的年輕人在裡面運動的話也會受傷所以我們如果有機會的話在陳委員非常關心體育的狀況之下休閒運動設施我們會跟教育部的體育署\n李慧琼議員\n大型的、中型的、小型的、然後都市跟非都市型的困境,部長真的完全清楚,那我們就直接切入重點,部長我幫你找到一個可能性,就是您剛剛說的再往下一頁。\n中文字幕提供\n我們找到在內政部107有一個令\n內政部令認可錘球場可以作為都市計畫公共設施用地對目標使用辦法第三條副表以獵物選項：內政部在109年一樣：內政部令把射箭場也放進去了：於是射箭場跟錘球場：就有機會放進相關的欄位當中：作為可參考的依據：那如同您剛剛說的體育署教育部要有角色我們往下看那體育署呢\n提議書其實他們已經有相關的所謂五人制八人制共用型球場的參考手冊那我相信如同部長您所熟悉這個業務的程度一定知道只要把體育署相關這個辦法作為內政部相關令頒發的可能性參考其實就有機會\n﹚陳培瑜﹚\n其實沒有問題就是我們剛剛有看到包括您所提到的射箭場跟槌球場啊那我們就按照這樣子的行政程序跟體育署徵得同意之後就直接公告好太好了謝謝部長我們為兒童身心健康一起努力謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝培瑜的質詢非常棒我們樂觀其成謝謝部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.819 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