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我想羅委員的觀察非常的正確就是無論有沒有組工會這件事情無法一步就到位但是呢組工會之前我們必須要先保障消防員基本的安全權益或者他們勞動上面的基本的權益的話我們會跟這些希望組工會的這個基層消防員弟兄們的保持溝通那同時我們也必須要考慮因為每一個縣市政府在主導\n158183\t179264\t因為消防的業務也是縣市地方政府要主導的部分他們的看法也許跟這些基層的消防員還不太相同那我們也必須要顧慮到他們在主導尤其在我們地方制度法裡面他們是主管機關我們也必須要考慮他們的立場所以我剛才說他不是一步到位我知道所以部長主工會可能最後是最後目標但這過程當中積極\n181165\t205174\t並且能夠多方探討然後先行幫他們把這些不管是設備能力或者是職安的SOP更加的訂定更好讓他們能夠更安心的出勤讓我們在這個逐步過程當中能夠達到目標為主對相關的軟硬體我們要來努力也請委員多多支持第二個我想跟你探討的是這個所謂的緊勤加擠繁重加擠您有掌握目前的繁重加擠的部分嗎\n206089\t207469\t臺東市的警名比一參考基準應該是1比350\n229594\t246906\t截至今年4月警民比是1比453台中市對比去年的5月是1比444不減反增所以我簡單的要求可以幫我們補足台中的員警能力嗎\n247898\t269634\t那我們會做滾動式的這個檢討這個回答我想我們都聽多了但是我要跟大家特別報告如果台北市的目前警民比部長是1比342有繁重加擠那為什麼現在1比453的台中沒有繁重加擠第二\n270535\t270775\t這部分能夠幫我們研議嗎\n287814\t311612\t目前除了這個繁重加息之外我們在今年就是僅僅加息已經有提升到15%那提升了這個狀況大概就是跟繁重加息起來大概一倍那我們對於繁重加息大概有7項的這個評比方式只要是臺中市政府的這個的財政如果說是沒有問題我們也樂觀其成\n312873\t319881\t我想趕快做一個相關的探討會後什麼時候可以給我資料我們現在缺額現在有6277人缺額282人缺額率是4.296都第二低什麼時候可以給我回應\n329915\t346230\t臺中市南區文曉38設宅,2022年你們有說要蓋一個江川設宅,請問現在最新的進度,臺中市南區有沒有要興建社會住宅,蓋在哪裡?文曉38有造成一些爭議,當地的住戶不一定希望,有沒有備案?\n347199\t353633\t跟委員報告我想會後我們會把最新的狀況跟您回報好麻煩你把最後的資料給我謝謝羅廷瑋委員的質詢謝謝部長謝謝署長\n","txt":"好謝謝主席有請部長有請六部長郭委員好部長好部長也是大學姐聽聞您在您的選區對龍眷非常的照顧對金光教育非常關心\n所以未來有很多事情想跟你繼續探討也希望我們一起加油那首先我當然要先表達我的立場原本要問部長您支持主公會消防主公會但我想我們自己的立場先讓您知道我個人是全力來積極的來協助我們消防員主公會當然有些委員在詢問這個治安專章何時出來有些人會覺得要把它列入治安法\n那我想過程中都可以再繼續討論但是我要再提醒每一天的討論所消耗的時間都有可能有下一個消防員受難所以我希望時間能夠加快加速這一點可以認同嗎\n我們消防法的職安專章會按照原來未還委員會所要求的部分送到大院來審議那剛剛我在回答很多委員的講法的時候也是一樣不管是放在職安法或是消防職安專章我們希望裡面所討論能夠符合現在我們消防員所需要的職業安全衛生上面所需要達到的標準\n我想法律層面當然一體都會適用啦不管是放在職安專章或者是所謂的職安法但是問題是有沒有切中要點那當然大家都很害怕有很多縣市會說就是所謂的罷工那我們想他們在主抽組工會當然\n李卓人議員\n﹚羅廷瑋﹚\n是 我想羅委員的觀察非常的正確就是無論有沒有組工會這件事情無法一步就到位但是呢組工會之前我們必須要先保障消防員基本的安全權益或者他們勞動上面的基本的權益的話我們會跟這些希望組工會的這個基層消防員弟兄們的保持溝通那同時我們也必須要考慮因為每一個縣市政府在主導\n因為消防的業務也是縣市地方政府要主導的部分他們的看法也許跟這些基層的消防員還不太相同那我們也必須要顧慮到他們在主導尤其在我們地方制度法裡面他們是主管機關我們也必須要考慮他們的立場所以我剛才說他不是一步到位我知道所以部長主工會可能最後是最後目標但這過程當中積極\n並且能夠多方探討然後先行幫他們把這些不管是設備能力或者是職安的SOP更加的訂定更好讓他們能夠更安心的出勤讓我們在這個逐步過程當中能夠達到目標為主對相關的軟硬體我們要來努力也請委員多多支持第二個我想跟你探討的是這個所謂的緊勤加擠繁重加擠您有掌握目前的繁重加擠的部分嗎\n臺東市的警名比一參考基準應該是1比350\n截至今年4月警民比是1比453台中市對比去年的5月是1比444不減反增所以我簡單的要求可以幫我們補足台中的員警能力嗎\n那我們會做滾動式的這個檢討這個回答我想我們都聽多了但是我要跟大家特別報告如果台北市的目前警民比部長是1比342有繁重加擠那為什麼現在1比453的台中沒有繁重加擠第二\n這部分能夠幫我們研議嗎\n目前除了這個繁重加息之外我們在今年就是僅僅加息已經有提升到15%那提升了這個狀況大概就是跟繁重加息起來大概一倍那我們對於繁重加息大概有7項的這個評比方式只要是臺中市政府的這個的財政如果說是沒有問題我們也樂觀其成\n我想趕快做一個相關的探討會後什麼時候可以給我資料我們現在缺額現在有6277人缺額282人缺額率是4.296都第二低什麼時候可以給我回應\n臺中市南區文曉38設宅,2022年你們有說要蓋一個江川設宅,請問現在最新的進度,臺中市南區有沒有要興建社會住宅,蓋在哪裡?文曉38有造成一些爭議,當地的住戶不一定希望,有沒有備案?\n跟委員報告我想會後我們會把最新的狀況跟您回報好麻煩你把最後的資料給我謝謝羅廷瑋委員的質詢謝謝部長謝謝署長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.151 --> 00:16.682\n好 謝 謝 主 席 有 請 部 長 有 請 六 部 長 郭 委 員 好 部 長 好 部 長 也 是 大 學 姐 聽 聞 您 在 您 的 選 區 對 龍 眷 非 常 的 照 顧 對 金 光 教 育 非 常 關 心\n\n00:17.577 --> 00:43.262\n所 以 未 來 有 很 多 事 情 想 跟 你 繼 續 探 討 也 希 望 我 們 一 起 加 油 那 首 先 我 當 然 要 先 表 達 我 的 立 場 原 本 要 問 部 長 您 支 持 主 公 會 消 防 主 公 會 但 我 想 我 們 自 己 的 立 場 先 讓 您 知 道 我 個 人 是 全 力 來 積 極 的 來 協 助 我 們 消 防 員 主 公 會 當 然 有 些 委 員 在 詢 問 這 個 治 安 專 章 何 時 出 來 有 些 人 會 覺 得 要 把 它 列 入 治 安 法\n\n00:44.002 --> 00:59.943\n那 我 想 過 程 中 都 可 以 再 繼 續 討 論 但 是 我 要 再 提 醒 每 一 天 的 討 論 所 消 耗 的 時 間 都 有 可 能 有 下 一 個 消 防 員 受 難 所 以 我 希 望 時 間 能 夠 加 快 加 速 這 一 點 可 以 認 同 嗎\n\n01:01.244 --> 01:20.533\n我 們 消 防 法 的 職 安 專 章 會 按 照 原 來 未 還 委 員 會 所 要 求 的 部 分 送 到 大 院 來 審 議 那 剛 剛 我 在 回 答 很 多 委 員 的 講 法 的 時 候 也 是 一 樣 不 管 是 放 在 職 安 法 或 是 消 防 職 安 專 章 我 們 希 望 裡 面 所 討 論 能 夠 符 合 現 在 我 們 消 防 員 所 需 要 的 職 業 安 全 衛 生 上 面 所 需 要 達 到 的 標 準\n\n01:20.973 --> 01:36.159\n我 想 法 律 層 面 當 然 一 體 都 會 適 用 啦 不 管 是 放 在 職 安 專 章 或 者 是 所 謂 的 職 安 法 但 是 問 題 是 有 沒 有 切 中 要 點 那 當 然 大 家 都 很 害 怕 有 很 多 縣 市 會 說 就 是 所 謂 的 罷 工 那 我 們 想 他 們 在 主 抽 組 工 會 當 然\n\n01:37.519 --> 01:37.699\n李 卓 人 議 員\n\n01:57.506 --> 01:57.526\n﹚ 羅 廷 瑋 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