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更 緊 密 的 關 係 但 是 我 們 就 是 秉 持 就 是 價 值 外 交 這 樣 的 一 個 路 線 就 不 是 因 為 說 要 什 麼 為 了 多 一 個 少 一 個 邦 交 國 或 涉 入 到 金 錢 外 交 但 是 他 們 看 到 臺 灣 跟 我 們 交 往 會 來 他 們 國 家 的 發 展 所 以 確 實 有 一 些 我 們 的 邦 交 國 的 周 邊 國 家 可 能 也 覺 得 說 跟 我 們 交 往 也 有 很 正 面 的 地 方\n\n18\n00:05:50,578 --> 00:05:53,400\n我 希 望 部 長 可 以 盡 量 的 去 做 因 為 我 大 概 掌 握 是 哪 些 國 家 但 是 我 覺 得 不 想 要 在 這 裡 去 講 讓 你 們 的 工 作 去 破 局 因 為 能 夠 增 加 更 多 的 邦 交 國 這 是 我 們 大 家 引 頸 期 盼 的\n\n19\n00:06:09,332 --> 00:06:26,214\n過 去 的 斷 交 部 長 如 果 林 佳 龍 部 長 能 夠 變 成 是 增 加 邦 交 的 部 長 我 相 信 不 管 是 對 您 個 人 對 外 交 部 甚 至 對 中 華 民 國 都 是 非 常 好 的 發 展 所 以 我 們 很 期 待 在 不 久 的 未 來 能 夠 看 到 有 新 的 邦 交 國 的 可 能 性\n\n20\n00:06:30,616 --> 00:06:49,702\n首 先 我 們 有 一 位 2 3 歲 的 台 灣 男 子 涉 嫌 販 毒 到 紐 約 被 逮 捕 那 外 交 部 證 實 了 是 外 交 替 代 一 男 我 想 要 請 問 一 下 這 個 外 交 替 代 一 男 現 在 目 前 的 情 況 是 如 何 的 那 我 們 這 邊 會 如 何 去 做 相 關 的 處 置\n\n21\n00:06:50,542 --> 00:07:08,833\n跟 委 員 報 告 , 因 為 在 過 境 美 國 紐 約 的 時 候 , 因 為 其 實 他 們 對 方 美 國 已 經 偵 辦 相 當 的 時 間 , 在 這 個 調 查 的 過 程 , 有 跟 我 們 相 關 的 單 位 有 聯 繫 , 所 以 是 有 一 些 掌 握 , 因 為 這 個 是 偵 辦 是 由 美 國 , 因 為 他 的 司 法 權 所 在 。\n\n22\n00:07:14,656 --> 00:07:14,676\n是 ﹖\n\n23\n00:07:44,565 --> 00:07:44,805\n我 們 會 發 表 抗 議 嗎 ?\n\n24\n00:08:01,954 --> 00:08:02,254\n上 週 我 們 有 三 位 同 仁\n\n25\n00:08:18,297 --> 00:08:41,230\n不 分 黨 派 的 立 委 同 仁 去 W H A 參 加 活 動 我 們 在 疫 情 期 間 幫 助 了 很 多 國 家 但 是 我 們 聯 合 國 的 秘 書 長 雖 然 說 給 予 肯 定 可 是 這 次 卻 無 法 參 加 還 說 要 看 其 他 會 員 國 但 是 我 們 從 2 0 0 9 到 2 0 1 6 是 可 以 以 觀 察 員 的 身 份 參 加 但 從 2 0 1 7 年 開 始 就 不 行 了\n\n26\n00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:48,402\n那 這 部 分 部 長 有 沒 有 信 心 在 未 來 我 們 有 機 會 能 夠 爭 取 到 再 次 以 觀 察 員 身 份 參 加 的 機 會 ?\n\n27\n00:08:50,680 --> 00:09:14,975\n我 們 要 更 努 力 因 為 確 實 也 更 嚴 峻 這 一 個 環 境 但 是 我 們 從 這 一 次 為 台 灣 發 聲 的 包 括 發 言 或 者 是 聯 名 性 的 國 家 有 增 加 他 那 個 內 容 也 更 強 度 越 來 越 高 所 以 我 想 這 個 對 於 台 灣 參 加 是 目 的 但 是 這 個 過 程 當 中 我 們 用 各 種 的 方 式\n\n28\n00:09:17,020 --> 00:09:32,496\n最 後 一 個 跟 外 交 比 較 沒 關 係 但 跟 您 個 人 有 關 係 的 我 想 詢 問 最 近 被 討 論 的 王 逸 川 先 生 民 進 黨 的 政 策 會 執 行 長 因 為 他 都 被 認 為 是 您 的 子 弟 兵 您 帶 出 來 的 但 他 最 近 身 為\n\n29\n00:09:33,177 --> 00:09:56,780\n民 進 黨 的 執 行 長 卻 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謝謝部長\n","txt":"林佳龍部長\n部長首先恭喜你就任我想不同的部長會有不同的風格每一任的部長因為他的不同風格也會為不同的部門帶來不同的成就所以我想先問一下你認為你接下來的風格會跟前任有什麼樣的不一樣\n有\n未來你打算要怎麼樣使用這個平台?那跟過去的吳部長你覺得會有什麼樣的一些差異?\n以外交部機關要發布的重要或正確訊息為主是你接下來可能在社群平台會使用的風格我這樣的陳述您同意嗎?同意\n那再來呢前任的外交部長在他還沒有卸任的時候經常在公開的場合發表有關於很多國防的議題舉例來說我這邊放了幾樣吳釗燮說\n中國鎖定台灣是戰爭行為：或者是接受法媒專訪說中國如果開戰台灣將付出重大代價2027年台海爆發戰爭嗎吳釗燮部長說共軍目前並沒有為侵台做準備然後還有很多\n吳釗燮CNN專訪示警中國試圖對台灣發生戰爭．還有中國正為攻台醞釀新藉口．其實從外交的角度來看．這些都是已經屬於灰色地帶跟擦邊球了．\n甚至很多的議題應該是要由我們的國防部長來做正式的回答而不是由外交部長的這個角色所以我想要請問一下林佳龍部長未來你在任內你是否會依循前一位的部長用這種可能會介入到國防部長職權的方式接受國外媒體的訪問\n跟委員報告我當然會就外交部的業務我主政的為主不過就像說立法院是外交國防委員會這都是國安的一部分這怎麼樣分工合作或有沒有需要更高的這個層次來溝通協調我想這方面我們會多加注意\n另外,前任部長吳釗燮已就任新位在國安會秘書長。就我今天得知的訊息是,到昨天,他還在媒體群組持續發表新聞稿,說他見了哪一些來自國外的貴賓。\n那會不會變成是我們在外交上面有雙頭馬車的問題未來我們在整個外交體系上面外交部跟國安會我們應該要如何協調跟統一想請教部長您的看法\n當然我們憲法或者是相關的法都有規定包括外交部的職權、國防部的職權那國安會它是總統會決定國家大政方針設的幕僚機構\n這個部分當然就是他的職權所以比如說我們發生一些事情像這個瓜地馬拉咖啡跟這個夏威夷豆可能受到因為跟我們這個邦交的關係被中共那邊刁難這個時候當然國安會會出面協調跨部會議\n首先是一般來說國安會就我們過去來講像顧立雄部長在擔任的時候就很少說我見了哪一些訪兵然後我發布新聞稿我來講這個事情如果繼續有類似的情況請問林部長會不會覺得您作為外交部長的職權被逾越了\n我做我該做的,說我該說的。所以就這一點,我們外交部也有發新聞稿。好,謝謝。那部長您在前任部長任內,我們斷交了8個國家。所以前任的部長也被認為是斷交部長。那您剛上任,剛才馬昭偉也有詢問關於友邦的部分是否有信心。那我還要額外問一個問題是,部長在您的任內,您有沒有信心去爭取到新\n我們現在也確實有一些國家想跟我們建立更緊密的關係但是我們就是秉持就是價值外交這樣的一個路線就不是因為說要什麼為了多一個少一個邦交國或涉入到金錢外交但是他們看到臺灣跟我們交往會來他們國家的發展所以確實有一些我們的邦交國的周邊國家可能也覺得說跟我們交往也有很正面的地方\n我希望部長可以盡量的去做因為我大概掌握是哪些國家但是我覺得不想要在這裡去講讓你們的工作去破局因為能夠增加更多的邦交國這是我們大家引頸期盼的\n過去的斷交部長如果林佳龍部長能夠變成是增加邦交的部長我相信不管是對您個人對外交部甚至對中華民國都是非常好的發展所以我們很期待在不久的未來能夠看到有新的邦交國的可能性\n首先我們有一位23歲的台灣男子涉嫌販毒到紐約被逮捕那外交部證實了是外交替代一男我想要請問一下這個外交替代一男現在目前的情況是如何的那我們這邊會如何去做相關的處置\n跟委員報告,因為在過境美國紐約的時候,因為其實他們對方美國已經偵辦相當的時間,在這個調查的過程,有跟我們相關的單位有聯繫,所以是有一些掌握,因為這個是偵辦是由美國,因為他的司法權所在。\n是﹖\n我們會發表抗議嗎?\n上週我們有三位同仁\n不分黨派的立委同仁去WHA參加活動我們在疫情期間幫助了很多國家但是我們聯合國的秘書長雖然說給予肯定可是這次卻無法參加還說要看其他會員國但是我們從2009到2016是可以以觀察員的身份參加但從2017年開始就不行了\n那這部分部長有沒有信心在未來我們有機會能夠爭取到再次以觀察員身份參加的機會?\n我們要更努力因為確實也更嚴峻這一個環境但是我們從這一次為台灣發聲的包括發言或者是聯名性的國家有增加他那個內容也更強度越來越高所以我想這個對於台灣參加是目的但是這個過程當中我們用各種的方式\n最後一個跟外交比較沒關係但跟您個人有關係的我想詢問最近被討論的王逸川先生民進黨的政策會執行長因為他都被認為是您的子弟兵您帶出來的但他最近身為\n民進黨的執行長卻在節目上表達說他可以取得參加不同活動的民眾的個資去比對我個人認為這樣子的行為是違反通保法以及個資法想要請問部長因為他都被說是您的子弟兵所以您對這件事情的看法是什麼我想我們也想要知道一下\n王逸川就是王逸川林佳龍是林佳龍我也沒有跟他有什麼討論沒有跟他有討論我想由他自己來回應但是您認為就是說從您過去的各種政治參與經驗是有辦法去得到去識別化的個資這樣子的一個事情嗎這個事情我到目前真的沒有很清楚這個個案的情況好 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--> 02:56.160\n甚 至 很 多 的 議 題 應 該 是 要 由 我 們 的 國 防 部 長 來 做 正 式 的 回 答 而 不 是 由 外 交 部 長 的 這 個 角 色 所 以 我 想 要 請 問 一 下 林 佳 龍 部 長 未 來 你 在 任 內 你 是 否 會 依 循 前 一 位 的 部 長 用 這 種 可 能 會 介 入 到 國 防 部 長 職 權 的 方 式 接 受 國 外 媒 體 的 訪 問\n\n02:57.912 --> 03:18.705\n跟 委 員 報 告 我 當 然 會 就 外 交 部 的 業 務 我 主 政 的 為 主 不 過 就 像 說 立 法 院 是 外 交 國 防 委 員 會 這 都 是 國 安 的 一 部 分 這 怎 麼 樣 分 工 合 作 或 有 沒 有 需 要 更 高 的 這 個 層 次 來 溝 通 協 調 我 想 這 方 面 我 們 會 多 加 注 意\n\n03:19.825 --> 03:39.554\n另 外 , 前 任 部 長 吳 釗 燮 已 就 任 新 位 在 國 安 會 秘 書 長 。 就 我 今 天 得 知 的 訊 息 是 , 到 昨 天 , 他 還 在 媒 體 群 組 持 續 發 表 新 聞 稿 , 說 他 見 了 哪 一 些 來 自 國 外 的 貴 賓 。\n\n03:40.754 --> 03:56.367\n那 會 不 會 變 成 是 我 們 在 外 交 上 面 有 雙 頭 馬 車 的 問 題 未 來 我 們 在 整 個 外 交 體 系 上 面 外 交 部 跟 國 安 會 我 們 應 該 要 如 何 協 調 跟 統 一 想 請 教 部 長 您 的 看 法\n\n03:58.445 --> 04:12.730\n當 然 我 們 憲 法 或 者 是 相 關 的 法 都 有 規 定 包 括 外 交 部 的 職 權 、 國 防 部 的 職 權 那 國 安 會 它 是 總 統 會 決 定 國 家 大 政 方 針 設 的 幕 僚 機 構\n\n04:14.310 --> 04:29.136\n這 個 部 分 當 然 就 是 他 的 職 權 所 以 比 如 說 我 們 發 生 一 些 事 情 像 這 個 瓜 地 馬 拉 咖 啡 跟 這 個 夏 威 夷 豆 可 能 受 到 因 為 跟 我 們 這 個 邦 交 的 關 係 被 中 共 那 邊 刁 難 這 個 時 候 當 然 國 安 會 會 出 面 協 調 跨 部 會 議\n\n04:32.637 --> 04:51.059\n首 先 是 一 般 來 說 國 安 會 就 我 們 過 去 來 講 像 顧 立 雄 部 長 在 擔 任 的 時 候 就 很 少 說 我 見 了 哪 一 些 訪 兵 然 後 我 發 布 新 聞 稿 我 來 講 這 個 事 情 如 果 繼 續 有 類 似 的 情 況 請 問 林 部 長 會 不 會 覺 得 您 作 為 外 交 部 長 的 職 權 被 逾 越 了\n\n04:52.079 --> 05:20.807\n我 做 我 該 做 的 , 說 我 該 說 的 。 所 以 就 這 一 點 , 我 們 外 交 部 也 有 發 新 聞 稿 。 好 , 謝 謝 。 那 部 長 您 在 前 任 部 長 任 內 , 我 們 斷 交 了 8 個 國 家 。 所 以 前 任 的 部 長 也 被 認 為 是 斷 交 部 長 。 那 您 剛 上 任 , 剛 才 馬 昭 偉 也 有 詢 問 關 於 友 邦 的 部 分 是 否 有 信 心 。 那 我 還 要 額 外 問 一 個 問 題 是 , 部 長 在 您 的 任 內 , 您 有 沒 有 信 心 去 爭 取 到 新\n\n05:23.568 --> 05:50.258\n我 們 現 在 也 確 實 有 一 些 國 家 想 跟 我 們 建 立 更 緊 密 的 關 係 但 是 我 們 就 是 秉 持 就 是 價 值 外 交 這 樣 的 一 個 路 線 就 不 是 因 為 說 要 什 麼 為 了 多 一 個 少 一 個 邦 交 國 或 涉 入 到 金 錢 外 交 但 是 他 們 看 到 臺 灣 跟 我 們 交 往 會 來 他 們 國 家 的 發 展 所 以 確 實 有 一 些 我 們 的 邦 交 國 的 周 邊 國 家 可 能 也 覺 得 說 跟 我 們 交 往 也 有 很 正 面 的 地 方\n\n05:50.578 --> 05:53.400\n我 希 望 部 長 可 以 盡 量 的 去 做 因 為 我 大 概 掌 握 是 哪 些 國 家 但 是 我 覺 得 不 想 要 在 這 裡 去 講 讓 你 們 的 工 作 去 破 局 因 為 能 夠 增 加 更 多 的 邦 交 國 這 是 我 們 大 家 引 頸 期 盼 的\n\n06:09.332 --> 06:26.214\n過 去 的 斷 交 部 長 如 果 林 佳 龍 部 長 能 夠 變 成 是 增 加 邦 交 的 部 長 我 相 信 不 管 是 對 您 個 人 對 外 交 部 甚 至 對 中 華 民 國 都 是 非 常 好 的 發 展 所 以 我 們 很 期 待 在 不 久 的 未 來 能 夠 看 到 有 新 的 邦 交 國 的 可 能 性\n\n06:30.616 --> 06:49.702\n首 先 我 們 有 一 位 2 3 歲 的 台 灣 男 子 涉 嫌 販 毒 到 紐 約 被 逮 捕 那 外 交 部 證 實 了 是 外 交 替 代 一 男 我 想 要 請 問 一 下 這 個 外 交 替 代 一 男 現 在 目 前 的 情 況 是 如 何 的 那 我 們 這 邊 會 如 何 去 做 相 關 的 處 置\n\n06:50.542 --> 07:08.833\n跟 委 員 報 告 , 因 為 在 過 境 美 國 紐 約 的 時 候 , 因 為 其 實 他 們 對 方 美 國 已 經 偵 辦 相 當 的 時 間 , 在 這 個 調 查 的 過 程 , 有 跟 我 們 相 關 的 單 位 有 聯 繫 , 所 以 是 有 一 些 掌 握 , 因 為 這 個 是 偵 辦 是 由 美 國 , 因 為 他 的 司 法 權 所 在 。\n\n07:14.656 --> 07:14.676\n是 ﹖\n\n07:44.565 --> 07:44.805\n我 們 會 發 表 抗 議 嗎 ?\n\n08:01.954 --> 08:02.254\n上 週 我 們 有 三 位 同 仁\n\n08:18.297 --> 08:41.230\n不 分 黨 派 的 立 委 同 仁 去 W H A 參 加 活 動 我 們 在 疫 情 期 間 幫 助 了 很 多 國 家 但 是 我 們 聯 合 國 的 秘 書 長 雖 然 說 給 予 肯 定 可 是 這 次 卻 無 法 參 加 還 說 要 看 其 他 會 員 國 但 是 我 們 從 2 0 0 9 到 2 0 1 6 是 可 以 以 觀 察 員 的 身 份 參 加 但 從 2 0 1 7 年 開 始 就 不 行 了\n\n08:41.670 --> 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