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委員好好久不見還記得你當市長的時候我們共同去推我們的東協廣場正式成立對啊觀光景點的現在是是是是所以要請教部長一下在2016年新南向政策推廣到現在是覺得跟哪個國家是推廣最好\n32796\t44434\t越南很好啦,其他當然18個國家,越南、泰國應該都算是發展得很好。\n45937\t64454\t謝謝部長。對,我們都知道就是臺灣與越南交流不只是投資,還有就是合作交流,還有就是交易、文化,還有醫療的方面,還有很大的潛力可以再發展,因為我們現在在越南\n66095\t91417\t我們部長知道說我們現在在越南的來臺灣投資還有其他國家來投資還有我們臺灣要到越南投資的有多少人我們臺灣到越南投資喔臺商會就很多啦這個真的是應該我想他們來的是當然這兩年的有關留學生這樣前後就將近一兩萬人以上啊我們去的也超過啊\n92598\t119398\t所以說這樣就是我們特別觀光的發展還有經濟的發展兩國的貿易的發展都是非常密切的所以在觀光和人的就是這邊的簽證的限制不管是從越南來這邊還是說我們台商過去那一邊都是兩國的之間的合作但是因為沒有開放的簽證所以呢\n120338\t128505\t美國出境就是旅遊業或者是我們的投資所以造成雙方的合作機會就變減少但是目前雙邊都有開放免簽越南就是為了吸引觀光客就是在今年年初的時候就開放免簽證有許多國家有被納入包含我們的鄰近的國家就是日本還有南韓\n149000\t165013\t但可惜我們臺灣並沒有納入這個名單所以南向政策推也是最好的但是沒有納入所以希望說事後我方是不是可以維持就是我們跟越南那邊就是積極爭取就是說雙方的互惠、免簽證有沒有這樣子的規劃\n172879\t190772\t是,當然我們現在有觀紅專案,越南觀光客來還是有嘛,有開放一些那先前疫情期間越南比較緊縮,疫情後也有一些開放那當然他們現在也有電子簽,這當然涉及到因為台越的關係只會越來越發展\n192453\t214388\t因為在越南現在投資的台商很多特別是在新增在北越的部分那個供應鏈的移轉所以我們會跟越方來談秉持互惠對等的原則其實有人流才有金流才有各種的交流\n216007\t218809\t所以部長有沒有說要去爭取就是我們就是\n232820\t242949\t越南跟臺灣有就是部分的免簽或者是投資的就像我們越南在臺灣就是要我我家來臺灣我有一本五年的簽證我是隨時可以飛來飛去連我小孩跟先生都有所以我想說我們是不是說我們要去爭取的雙方有這樣子的不同的就是機制不同的\n259764\t271198\t的那個身份來去做就是免簽證這樣子的話對兩邊的投資都很有幫助啦我們部長有沒有這樣子的未來的規劃\n272185\t297999\t有這是我們的目標要來聚集的推動好謝謝我們的部長就是因為呢就是雙方的貿易謝謝部長的支持再來就是我們大家最注重的就是不管嫁到哪裡我們都希望就是要有孝順我們最重要的是孝順父母但是呢我們像我們的東南亞還有我們的\n300560\t328462\t大陸地區都是說我們要來就是讓父母來台觀光的部分或者探親的部分就像我們越南來探親只有直親就是父母才可以來探親其他兄弟姐妹都不能來探親還有來探親只有三個月最多三個月只要說我們是因為有生孩子在延長就是六個月所以\n329920\t337943\t這樣子的探親的部分是不是可以部長這邊讓我們的簽證可以去延長就像我們從越南嫁到美國美國給我們的是一本父母給父母一個一本簽證兩年隨時都可以飛來飛去所以我們為了要減少經濟的壓力我們新住民的家庭\n355250\t382763\t讓他們的父母來臺探親是不是要給他們一本簽證不要說限制三個月你限制三個月變成大家來探親的人就變減少又會導致大家就是會滴流這樣子還有就是美國只要你們嫁到美國還有就是一親的簽證因為我們臺灣也是很注重孝順不管你去哪裡都要孝順\n383703\t398968\t是不是這樣子所以我們希望說未來是不是說我們部長這邊可以發放就是讓我們的父母可以來臺灣就是簽證延長就是說免簽證是最好了但是說我們簽證可以去延長這個部分因為我們都知道說百善孝為先不管你去任何國家在臺灣一樣也是都要養父母\n418143\t435397\t大方向臺灣要跟這個包括新南向國家的交流尤其是這個以人為本這個是一定是會逐漸的在出入境還有拘留甚至移民上\n436758\t459912\t在確保我們安全因為也有一些拖把的事故但是在這種情況之下他來這邊不管是留學工作移民甚至他整個家庭來依親我想台灣是一個應該是在這個方面是要走向跟新南向國家更多的交流\n460785\t478815\t那這個是在行政院也有跨部會在處理包括人才跟移民的政策我們也會提出來是部長是說大家都有來移民全家但是我們現在連我們的父母都不行所以這個部分就是要拜託我們的部長幫我們去我們會來檢視好 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委員好好久不見還記得你當市長的時候我們共同去推我們的東協廣場正式成立對啊觀光景點的現在是是是是所以要請教部長一下在2016年新南向政策推廣到現在是覺得跟哪個國家是推廣最好\n越南很好啦,其他當然18個國家,越南、泰國應該都算是發展得很好。\n謝謝部長。對,我們都知道就是臺灣與越南交流不只是投資,還有就是合作交流,還有就是交易、文化,還有醫療的方面,還有很大的潛力可以再發展,因為我們現在在越南\n我們部長知道說我們現在在越南的來臺灣投資還有其他國家來投資還有我們臺灣要到越南投資的有多少人我們臺灣到越南投資喔臺商會就很多啦這個真的是應該我想他們來的是當然這兩年的有關留學生這樣前後就將近一兩萬人以上啊我們去的也超過啊\n所以說這樣就是我們特別觀光的發展還有經濟的發展兩國的貿易的發展都是非常密切的所以在觀光和人的就是這邊的簽證的限制不管是從越南來這邊還是說我們台商過去那一邊都是兩國的之間的合作但是因為沒有開放的簽證所以呢\n美國出境就是旅遊業或者是我們的投資所以造成雙方的合作機會就變減少但是目前雙邊都有開放免簽越南就是為了吸引觀光客就是在今年年初的時候就開放免簽證有許多國家有被納入包含我們的鄰近的國家就是日本還有南韓\n但可惜我們臺灣並沒有納入這個名單所以南向政策推也是最好的但是沒有納入所以希望說事後我方是不是可以維持就是我們跟越南那邊就是積極爭取就是說雙方的互惠、免簽證有沒有這樣子的規劃\n是,當然我們現在有觀紅專案,越南觀光客來還是有嘛,有開放一些那先前疫情期間越南比較緊縮,疫情後也有一些開放那當然他們現在也有電子簽,這當然涉及到因為台越的關係只會越來越發展\n因為在越南現在投資的台商很多特別是在新增在北越的部分那個供應鏈的移轉所以我們會跟越方來談秉持互惠對等的原則其實有人流才有金流才有各種的交流\n所以部長有沒有說要去爭取就是我們就是\n越南跟臺灣有就是部分的免簽或者是投資的就像我們越南在臺灣就是要我我家來臺灣我有一本五年的簽證我是隨時可以飛來飛去連我小孩跟先生都有所以我想說我們是不是說我們要去爭取的雙方有這樣子的不同的就是機制不同的\n的那個身份來去做就是免簽證這樣子的話對兩邊的投資都很有幫助啦我們部長有沒有這樣子的未來的規劃\n有這是我們的目標要來聚集的推動好謝謝我們的部長就是因為呢就是雙方的貿易謝謝部長的支持再來就是我們大家最注重的就是不管嫁到哪裡我們都希望就是要有孝順我們最重要的是孝順父母但是呢我們像我們的東南亞還有我們的\n大陸地區都是說我們要來就是讓父母來台觀光的部分或者探親的部分就像我們越南來探親只有直親就是父母才可以來探親其他兄弟姐妹都不能來探親還有來探親只有三個月最多三個月只要說我們是因為有生孩子在延長就是六個月所以\n這樣子的探親的部分是不是可以部長這邊讓我們的簽證可以去延長就像我們從越南嫁到美國美國給我們的是一本父母給父母一個一本簽證兩年隨時都可以飛來飛去所以我們為了要減少經濟的壓力我們新住民的家庭\n讓他們的父母來臺探親是不是要給他們一本簽證不要說限制三個月你限制三個月變成大家來探親的人就變減少又會導致大家就是會滴流這樣子還有就是美國只要你們嫁到美國還有就是一親的簽證因為我們臺灣也是很注重孝順不管你去哪裡都要孝順\n是不是這樣子所以我們希望說未來是不是說我們部長這邊可以發放就是讓我們的父母可以來臺灣就是簽證延長就是說免簽證是最好了但是說我們簽證可以去延長這個部分因為我們都知道說百善孝為先不管你去任何國家在臺灣一樣也是都要養父母\n大方向臺灣要跟這個包括新南向國家的交流尤其是這個以人為本這個是一定是會逐漸的在出入境還有拘留甚至移民上\n在確保我們安全因為也有一些拖把的事故但是在這種情況之下他來這邊不管是留學工作移民甚至他整個家庭來依親我想台灣是一個應該是在這個方面是要走向跟新南向國家更多的交流\n那這個是在行政院也有跨部會在處理包括人才跟移民的政策我們也會提出來是部長是說大家都有來移民全家但是我們現在連我們的父母都不行所以這個部分就是要拜託我們的部長幫我們去我們會來檢視好 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